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Report: Trump on Accuser, You Think I Did This, Look at Her; Michelle Obama Says No Woman Deserves to Be Treated This Way; Conjoined Twins Now Are Undergoing a Rare Surgery; Jimmy Carter Still Building Houses for the Poor. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired October 13, 2016 - 15:30   ET

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[15:30:00] PAUL RYAN, REPUBLICAN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Not much going on there these days. Not much to talk about. Guess what? We actually are running on ideas this election. You would never know it, would you?

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: A lighter moment from speaker Ryan moments ago talking about business leaders back home for him in Wisconsin.

Meanwhile a defiant Donald Trump hitting back hard in his first event since these new groping allegations have emerged today. Trump says the allegations are outright lies and says that they're pure fiction. Here is what Donald Trump said about a "People" magazine reporter who claims Trump shoved her up against a wall, this was in 2005 down at Palm Beach at his home in Mar-a-Lago, and essentially forced his tongue down her throat, she says.

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DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Think of it, she's doing this story on Melania who's pregnant at the time, and Donald Trump, our one-year anniversary, and she said I made inappropriate advances. And by the way, the area was a public area, people all over the place. Take a look. You take a look. Look at her, look at her words. You tell me what you think. I don't think so. I don't think so.

Let me state this as clearly as I can. These attacks are orchestrated by the Clintons and their media allies. The only thing Hillary Clinton has going for herself is the press. Without the press, she is absolutely zero.

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BALDWIN: Trump says he will release new information that will prove his version of events at, quote, unquote, "the appropriate time". Let's talk it over with our political panel. Bill Burton, a Democratic strategist and former White House deputy press secretary for Barack Obama. And Gina Loudoun, a Donald Trump supporter and host of "America Trends with Dr. Gina". Welcome to both of you.

BILL BURTON, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Thank you.

GINA LOUDON, HOST OF "AMERICA TRENDS WITH DR. GINA": Thank you.

BALDWIN: Gina, let me begin with you, so I'm clear with all this news, as a woman you are fully supporting Donald Trump?

LOUDON: Well, I'll tell you that I counselled women and girls who have endured sexual assault. I don't take it lightly. I myself have endure it but I've also though counselled men who have been falsely accused and boys who have been falsely accused, and I think it's very important that we all stop for a minute and put the political rancor and accusations aside and look at facts.

The facts if there is a misogynistic candidate in this race are not on the side of Hillary Clinton. Clinton as you know has taken money from Saudi Arabia, a lot of it, tens of millions of dollars, a country that oppresses --

BALDWIN: Sorry, wait, you're saying they're not on the side of Hillary Clinton? I think you meant they are on the side of Hillary Clinton.

LOUDON: I'm saying if there is a misogynist argument in this race, that it would be against Hillary Clinton. There's a new video posted right now on Gateway Pundit that shows Bill Clinton in a video actually groping a woman on an airplane --

BALDWIN: Let me just jump in. I haven't seen it. Bill Clinton isn't running for president.

LOUDON: Understand that.

BALDWIN: As you talk about as you are a victim -- forgive me, it's my show. Stand by. As a victim of sexual assault which is serious, serious, serious stuff, when you heard Donald Trump on that bus bragging about grab them by the you-know-what, bragging about sex assaults, how did that make you feel?

LOUDON: I didn't like it. I didn't like it and I was clear about that. I completely agree with you. That's uncalled for.

BALDWIN: You accept his apology and you move on?

LOUDON: It was a long time ago. What I don't accept, Hillary Clinton has never apologized for insinuating that a 12-year-old rape victim on tape again, these are facts versus hearsay with Hillary, she insinuated that the little girl brought it on herself. This woman is still affected by this to this day.

Hillary has never apologized for spending $100,000 against the victims of her own husband to further grade them after they had already been victimized by her husband that's what I can't forgive, Brooke, and those are facts.

BALDWIN: Bill, jump in.

BURTON: I just -- I mean, I have to say, what Donald Trump said was disgusting, and I think that when you listen to the allegations that have been made against him, the number one witness already -- who has already been called is Donald Trump himself. If he says that this is what he goes and does and then women come forward and say, yes, he did that to me, I don't think that the presumption ought to be, oh, well, Donald Trump was lying and also these women are lying.

That argument is corrupted by the fact that Donald Trump has shown himself to be disgusting and misogynist throughout this campaign and he's ending it on the worst possible note that, frankly, it's bad for the country but it's particularly bad for any kid who's paying attention to this race. This is the guy that Republicans put forward to be an example for kids? It's disappointing.

BALDWIN: Gina, let's put these accusations aside, these women who have come out today, let's put them aside.

[15:35:00] When you saw Donald Trump stand in front of that crowd today and say with regard to the former "People" magazine writer, just look at her, meaning these accusations, this couldn't possibly be true, look at her, what is that supposed to mean?

LOUDON: Actually, he said look at the tape.

BALDWIN: No. He said look at her as well. I wrote it down.

LOUDON: Think that was a good point to make that we do need to look at the actual evidence. I think we need to put every accusation --

BURTON: It's not defensible.

LOUDON: I think we need to take every single accusation in the last 30 days of a campaign, whether it's by a Republican, a Democrat I don't care, if it's just something said, I think we need to set it aside a voters need to look at what we actually know where the facts are and the videos are. If these things happened with Mr. Trump, where is the camera phone?

BALDWIN: That's why I said accusations aside. They're not necessarily facts. What is fact is what happened in 2005 on the bus. With these women's accusations, that's what they are, accusations. But the sheer fact that he said, look at her. Fact.

LOUDON: What's also a fact is that Hillary Clinton is not coming to the defense of the flight attendant that her husband abused on video. It's up on Gateway Pundit. She's not coming to the defense of the girls in Saudi Arabia. Instead she's taking money from their oppressors. She's not coming to the aid of the victim that she scoffed at and said she brought it on herself. The list goes on of things that Hillary Clinton has done.

BALDWIN: The media has spent years talking about Bill Clinton but again he is not the one running for president. BURTON: I am sure this Trump surrogate would love for the rest of the

campaign not to be about what people said because if it weren't about what people said then we wouldn't have to listen to the same disgusting comments that Trump has said throughout this campaign. I have to say I'm glad that you started with that clip from Paul Ryan because it's very important to note that Donald Trump didn't come out of nowhere. Like this guy who said awful things about Mexican Americans, about Muslims, about every group in America that you can imagine --

LOUDON: No he didn't.

BURTON: -- started with a base that was built by Paul Ryan and folks in the house who helped elect people like Allen West who kept Michele Bachmann in office, Steve King, all these folks who are saying the same kind of things for years. Now Paul Ryan and congressional Republicans up and down the ticket are going to have their own problems because of Trump, and it only makes sense because it all started in the U.S. house of representatives with Paul Ryan.

BALDWIN: Speaker Ryan even today acknowledging he is worried about holding onto that Republican majority in the house post November 8th. We've got to go. Thank you both.

Up next, Michelle Obama proves how she got the nickname the closer, giving an impassioned speech against Donald Trump on the trail just a short time ago. We'll talk about the first lady coming up.

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BALDWIN: Donald Trump wrapping up a brutal tirade against the news media for telling the stories of these women who claimed that he sexually assaulted them. The first lady of the United States biting back, saying that hot mic tape in the new allegations against the Republican nominee are not normal, are not politics as usual.

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MICHELE OBAMA, FIRST LADY OF THE UNITED STATES: And it doesn't matter what party you belong to, Democrat, Republican, independent, no woman deserves to be treated this way. None of us deserves this kind of abuse, and I know it's a campaign, but this isn't about politics. It's about basic human decency. It's about right and wrong. And we simply cannot endure this or expose our children to this any longer, not for another minute and let alone for four years.

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BALDWIN: Talk it over with our favorite go-to first lady gal, author of the "New York Times" best seller "First Women, The Grace and Power of America's Modern First Ladies".

Kate, let me first ask you about this little nugget we got from Gloria Borger at CNN. They talked to the Clinton campaign as the first lady was speaking. Apparently the Clinton camp didn't actually ask the first lady to do what she did today. What do you make of that? KATE ANDERSEN BROWER, AUTHOR "FIRST WOMEN": Well, you know, we know

that Michelle Obama doesn't relish campaigning. Approval ratings in the White House, she always had to be convinced there was a clear purpose and a reason for her going out on the campaign trail. After seeing her today, it's clear she was emotional and almost in tears at one point that this was something that she wanted to do, so I'm not surprised that the Clinton campaign didn't have to nudge her in this direction. It's something she was passionate about. And I've never seen a first lady be so passionate in a speech like this before.

BALDWIN: Hillary Clinton tweeted about it, writings, Flotus, I'm in awe, thanks for putting into words what's in so many of our hearts. How much do you think people, especially the undecideds, were listening?

BROWER: I think that she has a huge appeal with young voters, with obviously African American, Hispanic voters. I think there's always going to be a core group of voters who will vote for Donald Trump no matter what, but she had a really compelling message, saying this isn't locker room banter, this is not acceptable. So I think that it was a really effective, emotional speech, and I was going back through past first ladies, and Laura Bush campaigned for Mitt Romney in Michigan in 2012 and you listen to her speech and it is so dry in comparison and kind of tame.

She's talking about our ideas are better than the Democrat's ideas. Juxtaposing 2012 to 2016 where it's so passionate, it's about very personal, embarrassing issues versus 2012 where it was about actual real economic issues and what we are used to in a presidential election.

[15:45:00] BALDWIN: The first lady saying it doesn't matter what party you belong to, no woman deserves to be treated this way. Kate, thank you.

Coming up next, a CNN exclusive, conjoined twins are undergoing surgery as a speak, to be separated there at the brain. Dr. Sanjay Gupta just talked to their parents. He joins us live from the hospital where it's all happening. Don't miss this.

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This is so extraordinary. Two little brothers right now are undergoing a rare surgery right now. 13-month-old Anias and Jadon were born joined at the head. Their mother has never been able to hold them individually in her arms. That's what she tells us she wants to do very soon. Hoping it will all change. Sanjay Gupta met up with the family in this exclusive interview.

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[15:50:00] CHRISTIAN MCDONALD, FATHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: You make the craziest faces, man. You want to read them a book, babe?

NICOLE MCDONALD, MOTHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: What matters in the end is that they love each other. CHRISTIAN MCDONALD: We had the boys, of course. They were normal

little boys, just like two, you know -- any other two little babies you would see. Except for being conjoined.

NICOLE MCDONALD: I could almost keep them like this right now, you know, because they're so perfect.

CHRISTIAN MCDONALD: They're normal little boys.

NICOLE MCDONALD: They're beautiful. They are -- they're perfect. They're so funny, and they're -- happy little boys.

CHRISTIAN MCDONALD: Crazy.

NICOLE MCDONALD: They're crazy. Crazy. Jadon tries to roll off the bed and drag anias with him. Anias talks. To sit here and hear them talking with each other down the hallway. They talk back and forth. They're just -- they're beautiful.

SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Two boys, Jadon and Anias. Jadon is the more rambunctious one. Anias, quiet, inquisitive. He's also had to struggle more.

NICOLE MCDONALD: He has really had to bear the brunt of the burden, I would say. He has breathing issues and feeding issues, and he has some vision issues. In the beginning his hearing was off and he has gone through heart failure. He's had seizures. He has had so much happen in the last year, and he just -- it just rolls right off his back. He just keeps on going.

GUPTA: I met Nicole and Christian McDonald just days before their twins are to be separated. So wo days out how are you guys feeling?

CHRISTIAN MCDONALD: We're excited. We're excited, and we're anxious to finally have the big day here. And feeling good.

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BALDWIN: The day has arrived. Dr. Gupta is there live at the hospital here in New York. My goodness. Just to see this picture of these two little boys. What are the risks?

GUPTA: Well, I mean, as you might imagine, Brooke, there are significant risks with an operation like this. When they talk about actually separating the boys, you're talking about doing brain surgery, essentially, on both boys. Technology has made the risks diminished compared to what they used to be. I want to show you something here if I can, quickly.

This is a model of the two boys, this is actually based on their images, Brooke. Even before surgeons do anything, they can take a look at exactly what they're going to be dealing with and sort of see right inside over here. And I think that this area over here -- these are -- they're in purple, but those are the blood vessels that are the biggest concern.

With anytime you do an operation on the brain, obviously there are risks from the anesthesia, risk from other organs in the body. For this particular operation these blood vessels in particular will be at the greatest risk. The operation is under way. It sounds like everything is going just fine.

But that is what the surgeons are most concerned about. Just take a look at just how impressive the models are nowadays that the surgeons have to do the planning ahead of time. These are the boys that you just met in that piece. This is their imaging. You can see how much information you are getting from these models.

BALDWIN: Incredible. I don't know how this doctor does it. Hopefully he or she will pull it off beautifully. We're thinking about that family. Dr. Gupta, thank you very much. An incredible piece online written been you and Wayne Drash. Go to CNN.com, grab the Kleenex.

Coming up here, back to politics, moments from now Donald Trump expected to deliver a policy speech in Columbus, Ohio, we will watch for that. Back in just a moment.

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BALDWIN: Now in his 90s. You would think former president Jimmy Carter would be into retirement after beating cancer. But not when he has a chance to make an impact.

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CHRISTOPHER DAWSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Former president Jimmy Carter and his wife Roselyn are still building homes for Habitat for Humanity. An annual tradition they started more than 30 years ago.

JIMMY CARTER, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've built almost 5,000 houses right now. It's been one of the most gratifying and challenging and difficult things we've ever done. Physically speaking because we've gotten steadily older, I was a lot younger when I first started.

DAWSON: He was 56 and fresh out of the White House when he first took up a hammer as a volunteer home builder.

CARTER: We hope it will go like this all over the world. We're now building one home each day for poor people in need.

I happen to be in a Christian. My religious beliefs into practical use. And this is the best way I know to cross that very difficult chasm between rich people and people who never had a decent place in which to live.

DAWSON: Habitat for Humanity fields 1400 groups in more than 70 countries. They raise awareness of the need for more affordable housing and bring volunteers together to build and renovate homes.

CARTER: There is a Habitat organization needing volunteers to raise money, serve food or build a house in almost everywhere people live in the United States. Just the idea of volunteerism where you actually do some work side by side with people in need has been put on the forefront of people's consciousness through Habitat. And that's a good thing.

BALDWIN: That is a good thing, President Carter, thank you.