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Aired July 2, 2016 - 16:00   ET

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[16:00:05] BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: You are live in the CNN Newsroom. I'm Brianna Keilar in Washington. Breaking news. The FBI grills Hillary Clinton today for three and a half hours about her e- mails. Questioning took place at FBI headquarters in Washington. The interview is part of a lengthy investigation into Clinton's use of a private e-mail server when she was secretary of state.

Today's meeting may suggest that investigators are close to wrapping up the Clinton probe and announcing results. For Clinton, timing now becomes crucial. She is just 23 days away from the start of the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia where she is expected to accept her party's nomination for president.

The next few weeks are very significant. They are huge as Clinton waits for the FBI to announce its findings. The Clinton campaign says Secretary Clinton gave a voluntary interview this morning about her e- mail arrangements while she was secretary, she is pleased to have had the opportunity to assist the Department of Justice in bringing this review to a conclusion. Out of respect for the investigative process she will not comment further on her interview.

Joining me now is Investigative Correspondent Chris Frates and CNN Senior Law Enforcement Analyst and former Assistant FBI Director Tom Fuentes. Chris, you have brand-new reaction from a leading Republican?

CHRIS FRATES, CNN INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, that's right here Brianna and it's no surprise Republicans already hammering Hillary Clinton over this. And Reince Priebus, he's the Chairman of the Republican National Committee. He has weighed in with a statement.

I want to put it on the screen for our viewers. And he said this, he said, quote, "In over 2,000 e-mails Clinton's decision exposed classified information, 22 that included top secret intelligence, just so she could skirt transparency laws in order to hide her shady dealings as secretary of state. The American people need to have confidence that the Obama justice department is conducting a fair and impartial investigation. But when the attorney general meets secretly with Bill Clinton just days before Hillary Clinton's interrogation is concluded discretely over a holiday weekend it raises serious concerns about special treatment." So, Reince Priebus hitting on several things here, Brianna. Now, of course, we know that Hillary Clinton has said she has sent no -- or received no classified information. But in retrospect, some of that e-mail has been labeled top secret or classified. And also Priebus hitting on this idea that in Phoenix, Arizona earlier this week Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton met on the tarmac. Bill Clinton went in for an impromptu meeting with Loretta Lynch. Republicans pounced on that.

In fact, I want to also read you some tweets from Shawn Spicer. He's a top Republican operative at the Republican National Committee. He said, quote, "In case you missed it. Hillary Clinton kicked off 4th of July weekend with a three and a half hour interview at FBI headquarters. And Hillary Clinton's campaign statement says she voluntarily met with the FBI for three and a half hours this morning. Yeah, lots of people volunteer to do that." So, a little bit of snarkiness there from Shawn Spicer about Hillary Clinton. But Republicans all over the story today, Brianna.

KEILAR: Tom, break that down for us. You have a Republican spokesman for the RNC saying yeah, voluntary? I don't think so. Was this voluntary as her campaign says it was?

TOM FUENTES, CNN SENIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Absolutely Brianna. Legally, it was completely voluntary. It was politically not voluntary. If she didn't go to the interview after having been requested, you know, what does that look like, what does it do for her campaign? So, I think yes from a technical legal standpoint she didn't have to be interviewed. From a legal standpoint she doesn't have to answer questions of the FBI. But, I think politically she was more or less in a position where she felt she had to. Then once you agree to be interviewed by the FBI in this official investigation it has to be the truth. The answers f they are a lie and proven to be a lie, she could be convicted of a federal crime and go to prison. And others have gone to prison just for that violation.

KEILAR: And that's really the point, right? I mean think of for instance the Scooter Libby trial where you had the instance over Valerie Plane. And when it came down to who had outed her status. It wasn't anyone who outed her status who ended it up facing charges. It was someone who in question, wasn't fully forthcoming with authorities.

FUENTES: Martha Stewart also. She was acquitted of insider trading charges, but went to prison for a couple of years for lying to the FBI during the investigation. So, this is a serious charge. It's considered an obstruction of justice to lie during an official investigation, especially when you're not required to talk. So if you do talk, it has to be the truth.

And again, as you have seen, there have been tens of thousands of man- hours go into this investigation. Any obstruction only adds more time, more money that the government has to spend in this case.

KEILAR: Tom Fuentes, Chris Frates thanks to both of you. [16:05:00] I want to bring in our panel. We have Senior Political Analyst David Gergen. He's a former presidential adviser to four presidents. Hillary Clinton's support Bakari Sellers, a former South Carolina House member, Donald Trump supporter, Jeffrey Lord. He's a former Reagan White House political director. David to you first.

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Sure.

KEILAR: The importance of the timing here. If the FBI announces the results of this probe shortly before the start of the Democratic convention, how does that -- and that would be around the time that Donald Trump is having his convention -- how does that affect the political prospects for Hillary Clinton?

GERGEN: There's so much about this w don't know yet ...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: David Chuckles.

GERGEN: ... and we have to be patient. We have to be patient because this is the big decision -- this is the biggest potential block to her becoming president that we all know about. You know, she's in very good shape politically at this point. Close race but pretty good shape. But if there were a blockbuster decision to, and a recommendation to indict her, of course that could end her campaign.

But if they clear her, this -- a lot of block will disappear. Of course there will be conspiracy theories, of course, there will be people who complain about it. But nonetheless, it's going to clear the way for her and she can see a much clearer path to the White House.

So, this is big. And I think what's critical here, many of her version of the Democratic Party especially but this applies to the country at large. It's really important to resolve this before Philadelphia and the convention. Because if you wait until after, and then there's some big blockbuster announcement, then what does the democratic do? The FBI has been at this now for a year. There are thousands of man-hours that have gone into this. There are mysteries about why it has taken so long.

But given all that, it's really important that this be wrapped up before the conventions. Before she becomes the official nominee. And that the country can go on and have a serious political campaign.

KEILAR: Bakari, here's what some voters think about Clinton's e-mail controversy. A CNN ORC poll last month of registered voters found 67 percent think Clinton was wrong to use personal e-mail for her job as secretary of state. 31 percent believe Clinton was not wrong. And then another CNN ORC poll asked if the way Hillary Clinton -- is the way that Clinton handled e-mail an indicator of her character and ability to be president? 58 percent say yes. 40 percent say no.

How does the Clinton -- aside from whatever happens -- it seems like maybe nothing will -- how does the Clinton campaign deal with these views? BARAKI SELLERS, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORT: Well, you can't necessarily

-- right now -- sometimes you have to deal with -- it is a -- that we -- through this investigation -- as to be completed ...

KEILAR: Bakari, I am so sorry. We're having an audio problem with you where it sounds pretty bad. We're going to try to re-establish that. I'm going to go to Jeffrey on this. And Jeffrey, we had this meeting earlier this week between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch. Clearly this was a very bad decision for ...

JEFFREY LORD, FORMER REAGAN WHITE HOUSE POLITICAL DIRECTOR: Right.

KEILAR: ... Bill Clinton to go on to this plane. And it gives Donald Trump a lot of fodder. It gives Republicans a lot of fodder. Do you really think that it affects the outcome of this investigation?

LORD: I think it's entirely possible. Here's one of the problems I think they have got. It's the FBI agents themselves who are involved in this. We need to keep our eye out because if they feel in any way that they have been undercut here, that they have been misrepresented or their work has not been followed through honestly, I imagine you will see something like a Saturday night massacre there back in Watergate days where people resigned in anger over this because they have not been treated professionally.

KEILAR: David, what do you think about that?

GERGEN: I think there's zero evidence that the FBI has been compromised in any fashion. I think the one thing that in all of that that is I think calmed people down both sides is that the FBI is headed by a man who is seen as a very straight shooter. And that his judgment on this is going to be -- is going to be widely accepted whichever way it comes down. You know? And it -- there are a variety of things here that could be done. But I think we have a clean investigation underway now. I don't think it's been compromised. I thought the Loretta Lynch thing was terribly stupid judgment but at least she got out of the way after that was over.

And I also think this when you go back to the polls, 67 percent say she made a mistake. She herself is among those 67 percent. She says she has made a mistake. The question at issue is not whether she made a mistake. Clearly, she did. And people have to take that into account as they think about her as president.

[16:10:00] But having said that, the real question is whether she mishandled it in such a way that she violated the laws of the United States. Did this amount to a criminal violation? We don't know that. We don't know where the FBI is going to come out until it's resolved. That's why we are all sitting on pins and needles. And thank goodness I think it's going to be resolved now before the Philadelphia convention.

KEILAR: Bakari, are you back? Can we hear you well, sir?

SELLERS: I'm back. Thank you, Brianna.

KEILAR: OK, that is great. OK, so I want you to chime in on this, sorry we had to cut away from you because of the audio issue.

SELLERS: No, I agree with what David just said. Hillary Clinton herself is one of those 67 percent who stated if she could have done it another way she would have -- or she should have done it another way. And she expressed her regret for actually setting this private server. I think many Democrats like wish that we weren't going through this process.

But there are a couple things we have to realize. One, guilty people don't sit down and talk to the FBI. Or at least they don't do so their counsel. So that's first and foremost.

And yes, I have heard this false equivalency, you know, the Martha Stewart thing and all of these issues. But, you know, Martha Stewart didn't go to jail for insider trading, she went to jail for lying. As long as Hillary Clinton was truthful with the FBI and I'm sure she was, there is absolutely no problems.

And right now we have a time crunch. Because I'm certain that the FBI and many watchers, David, myself, and Jeffrey included want this concluded before the DNC. But I also think that it would be patently unfair to Donald Trump, and yes, I am saying would be unfair to Donald Trump for this to come down during the middle of the RNC, during the middle of his coronation.

So, I think they recognize this. And I think you will see it done between now and the beginning of the RNC.

KEILAR: Bakari, Jeffrey, David thank you to all of you.

And coming up live in the next hour of CNN Newsroom, Donald Trump expected to meet with a big name rumored to be on his vice president short list. We'll tell you who that is.

Plus, it's the new tactic favored by ISIS terrorists, first open fire, and then set off explosives. We'll look how the strategy was used in Istanbul and how it makes stopping future attacks more difficult.

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KEILAR: We have breaking news here on CNN. We have just confirmed news that Noble Peace Prize winner and tireless advocate for holocaust survivors Elie Wiesel has died. He himself a holocaust survivor whose family was ripped out of Romania and send to the Auschwitz Concentration Camp System in Poland in 1944. His experiences were chronicled in his memoir night and he received the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986. Elie Wiesel was 87.

[16:15:09] I want to go to CNN's Oren Liebermann in Jerusalem. You are following what just be a tremendous outpouring in Israel. What have you heard Oren?

OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, the outpouring the condolences have begun in memory of Elie Wiesel, not only an advocate for Holocaust survivors, perhaps even more importantly an advocate for peace and a constant believer in the goodness of humanity. Here, is what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had to say this. "The state of Israel and the Jewish people deeply mourn the death of Elie Wiesel. Elie, a master of words gave expression through his exceptional personality and fascinating books about the victory of the human sprit over cruelty and evil in the darkness of the Holocaust in which our brothers, six million were murdered. Elie Wiesel was a ray of light and greatness of humanity who believed in the good of man." But this is not uniquely an Israeli story, it is not uniquely a Jewish story. Because of his writings, night and more than 50 other books that he wrote in mostly in English and French, the writings of Elie Wiesel, his message touched millions. And that was reflected and what the Nobel Committee said in 1986 when they recognized his work. They said in (inaudible) part of this, they recognized him as one of the most important spiritual leaders and guides in an age when violence, oppression and racism continued to characterize the world. Wiesel is a messenger to mankind, his messages one of peace, intonement and human indignity. His book Night chronicled his own time in the Auschwitz concentration camps and then Buchenwald concentration camp. But it was one of a trilogy (ph) and then went dawn and day and it chronicled his own transformed from the darkness of the holocaust to his believes in the goodness of humanity." And that is what touched the readers who picked up his books.

KEILAR: Yeah, that's right, Oren. He just -- and I read Night. This was one of the books that I read in school as I'm sure so many students here in the U.S. and around the world did. His account brought it to such an individual human level. I remember, you know, this was one of the first books that I cried while reading, this account. Just so touching.

LIEBERMANN: You are certainly not the only one who read the book. And you are certainly not the only one who cried reading it because of how personal it was. He was very honest with his readers about what he went through physically, emotionally, spiritually. And that was what made so readable and so important to read. He's been considered one of the most important Holocaust educators because of not only that book but because of most importantly that book, and the message he shared in it, to go through that, to come through the Holocaust, to have survived, to have lost his father in the holocaust shortly before the liberation of Auschwitz and to still believe in the goodness of humanity, the goodness of people, the inherent goodness of people is I think part of what made his message so important not only as I said to Israelis and Jews, but to everyone who picked up his books and saw the message within. I read you one more statement. We got a statement from the president of Israel, President Reuven Rivlin. He says "Tonight we bid farewell to a hero of the Jewish people and a giant of all humanity, Elie Wiesel a blessed memory and body the determination of the human spirit to overcome the darkest of evils and survive against all odds. His life was dedicated to the fight against all hatred. And for the sake of man as created in the image of God. He was a guide for us all."

Those condolences just beginning to come in. There are certain to come in more on the and throughout tomorrow. KEILAR: Yeah. It's such a legacy. Such a long and meaningful life

that Elie Wiesel he led. Oren Liebermann, thank you so much. We'll be right back.

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[16:21:17] KEILAR: We're following breaking news here on CNN. Hillary Clinton sitting down today for an interview with the FBI in Washington. A Clinton aide confirmed that this took place, the Clinton campaign is saying this was voluntary. It was all about the private e-mail server investigation, and that it lasted about three and a half hours. The meeting is actually a strong indicator that the justice department investigation of her e-mail use during her time as secretary of state is coming to a close. Though exactly how it will end remains unclear. We will update you with more details when we get them.

On the Republican side of the presidential race, Donald Trump is reportedly refining his short list of possible running mates. Multiple sources tell CNN today that Trump is making time to spend with the Republican governor of Indiana, Mike Pence. That name joining others on short list of potential V.P. picks. We have more on that from CNN's Jim Acosta.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump doesn't have a running mate just yet, but he does have a short list. A senior advisory tells CNN New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, former House speaker Newt Gingrich, Indiana Governor Mike Pence, and Senators Bob Corker, Jeff Sessions, and John Tune, plus Oklahoma Governor Mary Fallin are all under consideration.

Speculation is suddenly swirling around Pence who is scheduled to meet with Trump and is described by one top campaign aide as a dark horse coming down the track. A Trump spokesman noted Mr. Trump is meeting with a number of Republicans in the run up to the GOP convention, adding he has a good relationship with Governor Pence. It's a surprising development as Pence endorsed Ted Cruz before the Indiana primary and seemed to tamp down expectations this week.

MIKE PENCE, (R) INDIANA GOVERNOR: I haven't talked to him about that topic. My focus is here in the Hoosier state and that's where it will stay.

ACOSTA: Despite Trump's previous statements that he would reveal his pick at the convention, aides now caution the announcement could come sooner to drum up excitement. At the Western Conservative Summit in Denver, Trump didn't say much about his vice presidential search, though he did give a shout out to Sessions and began to fill out the convention program.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I love my children. I love my children. My children are going to be speaking at the convention. My wife is going to be speaking at the convention. We're going to have a great time. ACOSTA: Campaign officials hope the veep-stakes will send the message that many Republicans are rallying behind the presumptive nominee despite the never Trump movement.

PALIN: That gang, they call themselves, the never hash-tag, whatever. OK. Well, I just call them Republicans against Trump, or RAT for short.

ACOSTA: As Trump's warm up speaker, Sarah Palin ripped into his critics.

PALIN: It's really funny to me to see the exploding heads keep exploding over this movement, because it seems so obvious. Trump wins, America will win because voters are so sick and tired of being betrayed.

ACOSTA: And Trump tried to remind the party of what they're up against, pointing to Bill Clinton's controversial meeting with Attorney General Loretta Lynch as Hillary Clinton is under an FBI investigation over her private e-mail server.

TRUMP: I said, no, no you're kidding I don't believe it. I thought somebody was joking. But it's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's a very serious thing. And to have a thing like that happen is so sad. That could be a Mexican plane up there. They're getting ready to attack.

ACOSTA: But GOP Insiders are still nervous that Trump's sometimes racially tinged rhetoric is taking the party in a wrong direction, pointing to the real estate tycoon's response to a woman who took a jab at Muslim TSA workers at a town hall in New Hampshire.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why aren't we putting our retirees, our military retirees on that boarder or in TSA? Get rid of all these hibijabis (ph) they wear at TSA. I've seen it myself.

TRUMP: You know, and we are looking at that.

[16:25:04] ACOSTA: CNN is also told by sources that Senator Jeff Sessions and Newt Gingrich may only by on Trump's short list as a courtesy. Senator Thune, one source joked, may simply be too tall to be tapped as a running mate.

Jim Acosta, CNN, Washington.

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KEILAR: Well moments ago Vice President Joe Biden talking at the Aspen Ideas Festival weighed in on the rumors that Newt Gingrich is a contender to be Donald Trump's V.P. Here's what he said.

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V.P. JOE BIDEN, (D), UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Newt and I disagree. But he is one of the brightest guys I know. He knows the government. He knows the issues. And I would feel better, even though we disagree philosophically -- I'm not being facetious, I feel better knowing there is somebody there with the depth and gravitas on the issues that Newt possesses.

WALTER ISAACSON, ASPEN INSTITUTE CEO: We will know in two weeks whether your endorsement today of Newt Gingrich as vice president will help his chances or destroy his chances ...

BIDEN: I'm sorry.

ISAACSON: ... to be the vice presidential running mate.

BIDEN: I want to make it clear -- I want to make it clear, I -- Donald, I am not endorsing him. I'm just saying he is bright as hell. I disagree with him.

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KEILAR: Senior Political Analyst David Gergen, former presidential adviser to Nixon, Ford, and Reagan, and Clinton joining us now, and Donald Trump supporter Jeffrey Lord, former Reagan White House Political Director. David, what do you make of that?

GERGEN: Yeah. There he goes again. Joe Biden blurting out the truth once again. What makes him so much fun in politics. I think, listen, I think he is on the mark in that Newt Gingrich is a man who -- he is an idea factory. You know, he can turn out about fur or five ideas a day. It's not clear that they are all good ideas. It's not clear who knows the difference between the good ones and the bad ones. But he is extraordinarily competent. He does know Washington. He has -- he could build bridges to the Republicans in Congress, no question about that. He actually has -- as Joe Biden would suggest, you know, he has people on the Democratic side who would be willing to work with him.

You know, so there's a lot of to be said about. I will tell you -- I went and joined and work for Bill Clinton, and, you know, and it was seen as a apostasy that someone who would work for a Republican president would work for a Democratic president. Newt Gingrich is the first person to call me from the Republican side and say, you did the right thing, I'm going to help you all I can. And he did. I have a soft spot for Newt. You know, he has his downsides as we'll hear from a lot of Democrats and some Republicans.

KEILAR: OK. So Jeffrey, what do you make of this? There is a number of names out there, Newt Gingrich, look, if Joe Biden had his way, right, David Gergen seems to have a soft spot for him. But Newt Gingrich versus Chris Christie. What is your take on that?

LORD: Well I have already put myself out there as favoring Newt.

KEILAR: Yeah.

LORD: David is 100 percent right. I never thought I'd be agreeing with Joe Biden but Joe Biden is a 100 percent right. There's two things I think when you start -- when you get to this point of floating vice presidential names. Number one, we've had nominees with names like Agnew and Quail who were deemed as negatives and yet it didn't affect the top of the ticket and they're nominees for president won. And you have nominees who got really rave reviews, Edmund Muskie, Lloyd Bentsen and that didn't really help the presidential nominee because their nominees lost.

What you want in a vice president is somebody that can sit down across from you in that study off the Oval Office and have lunch on Thursday and help you and know that what you are saying is going to be held in confidence and that your vice president is there to lend a hand with all the heavy lifting a president has to do. That's what you really want. And for that reason alone, I think Newt Gingrich passes this test, you know, with flying colors.

KEILAR: David, I want to talk to you about the ...

GERGEN: Yes.

KEILAR: ... Hillary Clinton side of this equation. Her short list of potential running mates is said to include former Virginia Governor Tim Kaine as well as Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren. I want to talk about Kaine because he is under scrutiny for gifts he received during his time as Virginia's governor. Legally he did nothing wrong. But especially after what we've seen with the former Republican governor, even though his charges have -- his conviction has been essentially vacated, it's not something that really has sat well with voters. Is it going to be the same situation here?

GERGEN: It doesn't sit well with voters. But I think in fairness to him the laws of Virginia were quite lax during the time that he was governor. And my understanding was he pretty much reported everything. I don't think he has a violation of the law question hanging over him.

What he does have is a lot of mounting opposition from the Elizabeth Warren folks. They think he is way too much of a centrist. And they are anxious, obviously eager to put one of their own in there.

[16:30:04] And so, there could be a fight over Kaine. He is considered the safe choice in most circles. He has had a lot of important executive experience. He knows international relations. He was on the short list for President Obama way back in 2008.

KEILAR: Can I challenge -- I hear you saying he didn't do anything legally wrong, and sure -- or maybe he didn't. It appears to be that way. I guess this is my point, is that one of the criticisms for Hillary Clinton for her it is often a line of legality and not a line of propriety. And is it going to be bad for her to have a running mate who could be accused of the same thing?

GERGEN: Well, listen, I think you have got to have closer scrutiny of the various gifts. I read an account of it and it seemed to me not something that was sort of a huge problem for him when I read the first account.

Now, it maybe goes deeper and there -- but there is no indication of favors being done for -- getting on somebody's airplane to go make a speech for Democrats or something like that. So I -- I think it's an issue, but I wouldn't overplay it at this point.

I think the logical issue that's more important for most Democrats and for most voters, we'll have to wait and see. I -- he brings a lot to the table that -- he got a long ways down the track with the Barack Obama selection process. The Obama people looked at him and said he passed muster with them. He is passing muster, it appears with the Clinton people.

So, let's not -- I don't think we have got to take his gifts and blow them out of proportion. Let's learn more. We don't know enough yet to make a strong judgment.

KEILAR: David Gergen, Jeffrey Lord, thanks to both of you.

GERGEN: Thank you.

KEILAR: Coming up, two countries have been struck by highly sophisticated terror attacks in less than a week now. It's put cities across the country on high alert this holiday weekend. The possibility of more attacks, next on the CNN NEWSROOM.

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[16:35:16] KEILAR: Two major terror attacks carried out just days apart are putting cities around the world on high alert. The latest attack happening in Bangladesh after gunmen stormed a cafe and held hostages for ten hours, 22 people were killed.

We are learning at least three of the victims were college students studying here in the U.S. The State Department confirms one of them was indeed an American citizen. CNN has identified her as Abinta Kabir, a student at Emory University in Atlanta. And according to the school, Abinta is from Florida. She was visiting friends and family in Dhaka when she was taken hostage.

We're also finding out more about the attackers. Police say all seven gunmen were from Bangladesh and most of them were known militants that officers have been trying to arrest for quote, "a while". We're told one captor was captured alive, but his exact condition is unknown.

Almost immediately, ISIS claimed responsibility for this attack. And if true, this would be the second deadly attack carried out by the terror group this week alone, coming just four days after the Istanbul airport bombing.

The attack in Istanbul is an example of what has become a grim calling card for ISIS and its most dangerous fighters, the ones who want to die.

CNN's Randi Kaye explains.

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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Istanbul, Brussels, Paris, three different cities, three well coordinated attacks, all striking three similar. At both the Istanbul and Brussels airports, a group of three men carried out the attack. In both cases, the men got to the airport by taxi. All had explosives.

In Istanbul, they wore suicide vests. In Brussels, explosives were hidden in their luggage, which they pushed through the airport before detonating.

At Brussels airport in March, none of the men carried guns. But at Istanbul they did. There, this terrorist was caught on surveillance video running and firing his weapon before he was shot by an airport police officer. Squirming in pain, it appears he is shot again. Seconds later, he blows himself up.

(on camera): Though no one has officially claimed responsibility for the Istanbul attack, it's a familiar strategy, shoot civilians dead, then detonate a suicide vest, a tactic quickly becoming ISIS's favorite way to terrorize the West.

CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The primary difference from a more typical suicide bombing or suicide attacker is that they are heavily armed usually. And they go into a place, whether it is a theater or a nightclub or a restaurant, and they try to kill as many people as they possibly can before detonating their explosive vest.

KAYE (voice-over): These types of fighters are called "Inghimasi", often referred to as suicide warriors.

WARD: You're combining being an excellent fighter and being able to kill as many people as possible on the battlefield with also being willing to give your life for the sake of God in one of these operations.

KAYE: Before Istanbul, we saw Inghimasi at work at the Bataclan Theater in Paris. In that attack last November, ISIS fighters, heavily armed and wearing explosives, killed concert-goers at random. Eighty-nine people died in that attack. One attacker was killed by police gunfire and his own explosives. The two others blew themselves up.

WARD: For them, the mission is not complete if they don't commit suicide at the end. If they are captured alive somehow, they do not believe that they reap all of the spiritual benefits and rewards from the operation as they do if they die at the end of it.

KAYE: A heavily armed terrorist who wants to die, a deadly combination for anyone who gets in his way.

Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.

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KEILAR: I want to talk about both of these attacks. The possibility that they were carried out by ISIS and what that could mean. I'm joined by CNN global affairs analyst Kimberly Dozier and CNN senior law enforcement analyst and former assistant FBI director, Tom Fuentes. Kimberly, I want to ask you the first question because I've heard some people who know something about ISIS say they haven't claimed responsibility in Istanbul, but it seems pretty clear that that was directed by ISIS leadership. And then perhaps ISIS was involved only in a sort of cursory way in Bangladesh in that you may have had local militants who just decided to kind of slap on the ISIS badge because it's so intimidating, and that allows ISIS to claim responsibility when maybe there isn't as strong of a connection as that makes it seem.

[16:40:00] KIMBERLY DOZIER, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: You are right. We don't have a direct link established that ISIS in Raqqah ordered this attack. But ISIS's news agency did report it, claim responsibility for it, hailed the attackers as ISIS fighters.

We also know that there is inside Syria a Southeast Asia brigade of ISIS for all the fighters, roughly 1,000 or so that are believed to have traveled from places like Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, to fight at the front lines. And there have also been a series of arrests that didn't get a lot of attention back in the states.

In Singapore, they have arrested a few dozen Bangladeshi workers accusing them of being members of the Islamic State of Bangladesh. And the law enforcement in Singapore said this they had planned to travel to the war zone, found it too difficult, and so decided to attack back in their home country.

KEILAR: Tom, I wonder -- some may say what does it matter if you have someone who had no contact with ISIS but who is inspired by ISIS and does something like the Orlando nightclub bombing, or you have the Istanbul airport bombings that ISIS leadership was directly involved in, or you have this sort of different situation in the Bangladesh attack. What does it all matter? It all amounts to a campaign of violence?

TOM FUENTES, CNN SENIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, that's true, Brianna. But I think what matters is that tens of thousands of foreign fighters went as Kim said from Asia and went and joined Syria, from Europe, North America, the U.S., from Australia.

And we have a tendency when she is attacks happen to get tunnel vision and zero in on that country or that immediate region, such as France and Belgium and say, OK, what's the connection to ISIS or al Qaeda? And we don't -- you know, even though analyst after analyst has been describing for two years now the tens of thousands of people coming from the rest of the world, and from Asia, to join ISIS.

So, you know, that's what we don't know here. Yes, the government is identifying all of these attackers as Bangladeshi. But we don't know if any of them did go or had contacts with people who did go to Syria and join -- learn their techniques and go back. We just don't know that yet.

But it's clear that the message ISIS is trying to get out, is they were a worldwide threat, and everybody everywhere better pay attention to that. KEILAR: Ramadan isn't over, Kimberly. Do you think we'll be seeing

more attacks like this?

DOZIER: It is a concern because ISIS called for attacks throughout Ramadan and promised the fighters additional blessings. And that includes ISIS trying to inspire people in this country to choose a weapon and a target and simply phone in and claim responsibility saying they are doing this in the name of ISIS. You can see in each of these recent attacks, Turkey, Bangladesh, if it does prove to be ISIS, that they have used the weapons available in their home country, the methods available in their home country, but have adopted the overall ISIS banner.

That is a terrifying franchise -- Bri.

KEILAR: Tom, you have one of these attackers that was actually captured alive. Now, we don't know the condition of this attacker. But if it is possible they can communicate who authorities be able do you think to actually get any information out of him?

FUENTES: Well, they might. And often, in interrogating attackers captured alive the one thing they have to hold over them is that they are alive. And we have had this -- I've been involved in interviews with suicide bombers where the vest didn't go off or in this kind of a situation the person is not killed as they want to be killed and you start accusing them of being cowards. You really didn't want to die. You really chickened out.

And then all of a sudden, no, no, no. Well prove it. Who taught you? Who helped you? Where is the rest of your network that can say that you really are a committed terrorist?

Oftentimes you can get information from them. We don't know in this case what's going to happen in the interviews, but it can be done.

KEILAR: Tom Fuentes, Kimberly Dozier, thanks to both of you.

DOZIER: Thank you.

FUENTES: Thank you.

KEILAR: Coming up, debt, pollution, a dangerous virus, and now body parts washing ashore. With just over a month to go until the Rio Games, can Olympic organizers pull this off? We'll get a live report.

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[16:47:40] KEILAR: Rio, the games are just a month away now, you know it's not good when there are so many bad news stories, we couldn't decide which one to focus on. So, here's the whole laundry list. Well, you could start with the body parts, washed up near the game's volleyball venue. That is right. Perhaps, it was the jaguar that was shot dead after escaping from its handlers during the Olympic torch relay.

Then, there is the Zika outbreak, so frightening, some athletes are choosing to skip the games entirely, and there is also a spike in crime, a deadly super bacteria in the waterways. And this, Rio officials warning the Olympics may fail because the country is broke. That is right, broke.

I want to go live now to Rio and Arwa Damon. She's our senior CNN international correspondent.

This is just a litany of things. Will Rio be able to pull this off?

ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, top officials will say yes, they can. But then you have the governor of the state of Rio, for example, coming out and basically having declared a state of emergency, saying that they are completely broke and that they need the money to be able to pull off the games. But also do things like pay the police force.

Now those emergency funds, according to federal officials, were allocated on Thursday, but there is still could be seen as to whether or not it is actually going to have the necessary impact. There are great concerns on top of that whole list that you are mentioning there, Brianna, about security and also about the capabilities of the health institution.

And when we talk about security, we are not necessarily only talking about terrorism related incidents that are also of course of concern. But you have the state of security in general.

To give you one example, the German broadcasters' trucks were hijacked on the main highway between the airplane and the Olympic village. Now, the containers were later located. Of course they were empty. You have ongoing fairly regular gun battles taking places in some of the areas that the government is trying to bring under control ahead of the games.

You have a rising death toll according to human rights organizations amongst the civilian populations in some of these favelas because of these ongoing clashes and a rising sense of frustration amongst the population in general who really hope the games would help bring about these fundamental needed changes to the country.

[16:50:06] But that really hasn't happened with many people complaining of widespread rampant corruption. You have the issue of some of the venues that are obviously still under construction that may or may not just be ready until the very last minute. Now, that is something that a lot of nation does face when it comes to the games but then you have things unique to Rio that you were mentioning -- Zika, and then the super bacteria that exists in the waters where some of the Olympic sports are meant to be taking place.

KEILAR: And I want to put up a picture. It's really disturbing. It is of a man, he is running on the beach. And you see the bleachers for the beach volleyball behind them. That's how close the discovery with the blue tarp is. It's believed to be a woman's foot found in the sand.

We know the spike in crime that we're hearing about is certainly pretty bad. We are seeing that trashy water that, that is what the sailing team is supposedly dealing with. I actually spoke with the CEO of the games, Arwa, and he said, well, people have been sailing and they haven't gotten sick. And that was sort of his answer.

But it seems like the problems plaguing Rio are just really beyond what we've seen other venues. There's always problems, right? But this is something a level or two above it.

DAMON: It really is. Look, some of the athletes who are meant to be competing in those waters are understandably uncomfortable but they are going to go ahead with it anyway because this is after all the Olympics and the image of those boat pardons on the beach is jarring. There is only a little over a month to go for this country to begin to get it together, Brianna.

KEILAR: Arwa Damon, thanks so much for that report. And we'll be right back.

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KEILAR: You are probably feeling a little patriotic this holiday weekend. But how about belting out the national anthem in front of thousands of people at the Lincoln Memorial? An assistant principal from Florida did just that and became an Internet sensation.

CNN's Jeanne Moos ending the hour for us on a very high note.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No one expected to hear this as the Lincoln Memorial, not even the woman singing.

[16:55:05] STAR SWAIN, ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL (singing): Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave --

MOOS: Thirty-four-year-old Star Swain was just a regular tourist, coaxed by her friends to do an impromptu performance.

SWAIN: We could hear the acoustics and we're just like, man, it sounds amazing in here.

MOOS: At first, no one noticed. Then people started to gawk. By the time she got to the ramparts, Star was turning heads.

SWAIN: -- over the ramparts we watched --

MOOS: She's been singing since she was a kid, performs mostly in church, so she was shaking with nervousness.

SWAIN: Lord, please let this note come out.

(singing): For the land of the free, and the home of the brave --

MOOS: The video went viral, commenters gushed about getting chills and goosebumps.

You mean, they haven't called you for the Super Bowl, yet?

SWAIN: No, and I am waiting.

MOOS: Star, an assistant principal at a Florida school, was so thrilled with the response, she sang her gratitude.

SWAIN (singing): Over 10 million views, I thank God for you.

MOOS: That's one of her two kids, popping up behind her.

There was one guy in the audience who didn't react to Star's performance, who remained stone faced.

Was it weird to sing with Lincoln sitting over there in a chair?

SWAIN: He would have gotten up and applauded, that was a bit weird.

MOOS: But how can he just sit there like a statue, listening to this?

SWAIN (singing): -- and the home of the brave --

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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KEILAR: Coming up, our big breaking story. Hillary Clinton's three and a half hour meeting with the FBI over the use of her private e- mail server. Donald Trump has just given his reaction. We'll tell you what he said at the top of the hour.

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