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[03:00:00] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN NEWSROOM SHOW HOST: -- all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church at CNN World headquarters covering the fight against ISIS, the EgyptAir investigation, and U.S. politics.

JOHN VAUSE, CNN NEWSROOM SHOW HOST: I'm John Vause outside Parliament in London with the latest on the Brexit, the fight for the leadership and why Scotland wants to remain in the E.U.

HALA GORANI, CNN NEWSROOM SHOW CO-HOST: And I'm Hala Gorani, live outside the airport in Istanbul covering the investigation into the terrorist attack and what survivors are saying now. This is CNN Newsroom.

Well, authorities are hoping that new surveillance video emerging now along with some forensic evidence will help them identify the three men who blew themselves up here at this busy airport, trying to cause maximum damage and carnage.

They're also looking into where the taxi driver picked them up Tuesday. In total, 42 people were murdered in this attack behind me. More than 120 others are still being treated at hospitals.

Authorities are defending their decision to reopen the airport so quickly after the attack. Amir -- just five hours, just about. They say Ataturk security far exceeds international standards.

Turkey's President is calling for a global response to the threat. Listen.

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RECEP TAYYIP ERDO?AN, TURKISH PRESIDENT (TRANSLATED): There is no humanitarian explanation for this. There is no Islamic explanation or aspect to this, not at all. These people are not Muslim. They are going to be the occupants of hell. They have secured their places in hell.

Causing the deaths of one single person is equal to causing the death of all humanity. This is what our religion says. How can one do such things?

(END VIDEO CLIP) GORANI: Well, let's bring in CNN's Alexandra Field joining me here in

Istanbul covering the story. We were talking about the taxi driver, he may be a key element in this investigation. He did picked the three men dropped them off, he was questioned and then released.

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right. This is the last person who would have been with these three men altogether, quite likely. So, this was a person who was important for the investigation, for police to speak with him. This is the main entrance to the airport. It's the place where, you know, taxis pull up, they can go right to the terminal.

Then, of course, people approach security, but this taxi driver could give some good clues about who these men were, what they were talking about, what they were talking about. We know that they had both AK- 47's and of course the suicide vest that they detonated here at the airport.

But certainly, as police go through the CCTV images from inside the airport, as they try to analyze in the images that they can come up with, the taxi cab driver would have a more full description, quite likely.

GORANI: It's remarkable that three men armed with AK-47's, each one with a suicide vest all crammed into single taxi. But authorities don't seem to have any reason to believe this cab driver had anything to do with it. They released him.

FIELD: Right. Questioned released he did provide a statement. So, we'll see whether or not he could be very helpful to police, he might be able to talk about where he picked them up, what kind of language they were speaking.

We have heard of course from intelligence sources that they believe that these three men may have been foreign nationals. That's one of the assumptions that they're operating under.

So, perhaps he could help them get closer to identifying who these people are. These taxi cab drivers have been integral in other investigations. We know that in Brussels, some of the bombers were dropped off in the taxi, even in the Boston marathon bombings there was a taxi cab driver who was questioned.

Because of course, the police in these cases want to know about whether explosive were put in the trunk, what were they were wearing, what they were carrying. It could give them some clue, that's what they're hoping for.

GORANI: You're right. In Brussels, that was one of the elements, as well, one the cab drivers. But now, ISIS has not claimed responsibility. But the suspicion and the investigation is leading us in that direction. Because the other potential suspect, PKK, which is that Kurdish separatist group, would have absolutely no reason to strike to strike an international airport like Ataturk.

FIELD: Right. Of course, officials believe that there would be reason for ISIS to strike here. They some eight suicide bombings in Turkey in the last year, three in Istanbul including this one which officials believe could be linked to ISIS.

And that's because of the style of the attack itself, the use of mixed weapons with the arms and the explosives. But also this type of target. Again, we know that this is very similar to the Brussels, also similar to the Paris attack where you're opening fire and launching explosives at civilians.

It's designed for maximum impact, it's designed for global attention, and you're targeting a very international group, which is exactly we had at the international terminal one of the busiest airport in the world.

GORANI: It's no -- it's no coincidence they targeted the international and not the domestic terminal. Simply because it's a reflection of how cosmopolitan this transport hub is.

And let's talk a little bit about how quickly this airport reopen. You and I flew in here just a few hours ago. And basically, it felt to me like I was walking through a crime scene. I mean, just yards away from where the international arrivals area is where one of the men blew himself up.

FIELD: It was stunning to me, as well. Because I walked through that airport and really all I saw were some shattered panes of glass and also areas that had been cordoned off and the reconstruction work was already being done.

[03:05:04] Now look, the security services here in Turkey are saying that they were ready to open up this airport, that they were prepared to ensure the safety of passengers who are going through here.

The investigators have said that they got in and they did the forensic work that they needed to do. This is also of course about sending a message about Turkey's result. But it is very striking because, again, if we think back to the next closest example that we had which was the Brussels attack.

Just a few months ago, you remember and I remember, there was literally a perimeter around the airport. Of course was being kept away and it was days before they could even let the engineers in to assess the kind of damage that was done there in order to make rebuild plans.

GORANI: A very different response there. Alexandra Field, thanks very much. We will of course go back to Alexandra with more on the investigation and the coverage of this aftermath of this attack.

Now people from around the world are paying their respects to the victims of the airport attack. Many on social media are using the hash tag pray for Turkey.

Theresa Crosby tweeted, "Again, slaughter of innocent people. My heart goes out to all." Another post uses this artistic image of the Turkish flag and read, "Terrorism has no religion, no nationality and no color."

Germany projected a Turkish flag on its famous Brandenburg Gate in Berlin in honor of those who died. In Moscow, hundreds of people expressed their condolences by laying flowers outside the Turkish embassy.

And Pope Francis prayed before a large crowd in St. Peter's Square for the victims and their families. And speaking of the victims, 37 of them, those who were killed, I should say, have been identified so far.

At least 13 were foreign nationals, according to Turkish officials. So far, 23 of the victims have been identified as Turkish. Among the foreigners, five were from Saudi Arabia, two from Iraq. Other victims are known to be from China, Iran, Jordan, Tunisia, Ukraine and Uzbekistan.

One newlywed couple who survive the attack describe it as their worst nightmare.

CNN's senior international correspondent Ivan Watson was able to speak to them.

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Steven Nabil and Narneem Shorees just got married.

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NARNEEM SHOREES, SURVIVOR: Such a beautiful wedding.

STEVEN NABIL, SURVIVOR: She deserves it.

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WATSON: After a honeymoon in Greece and Italy, the couple was on five- hour layover at Istanbul's Ataturk Airport Tuesday night waiting for their flight back home to the U.S. That's when the terrorists attacked.

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NABIL: I literally ordered the salads and the pizza slice. When the guy turned to put the slice in the oven, I heard the gunshots from far.

WATSON: Did you recognize that those were gunshots?

NABIL: Yes, AK-47.

WATSON: No question.

NABIL: Automatic rifle.

WATSON: And what goes through your head at that time.

NABIL: That she's hurt. That's this was happening, my worst nightmare is haunting us now.

WATSON: Steven says he saw a guy with a gun shooting in the departures hall.

What did he look like?

NABIL: I was in television, so I am not sure if he was the actual gunman or the cops fire on him. But there was a gun and there bullets coming from him because I can see them, the echoes and all that from the gun.

WATSON: The terrified couple ran and hid in this little kitchen which Steven filmed on his phone. Through the door, they heard chaos outside.

SHOREES: I heard people yelling.

NABIL: There was stop, stop.

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SHOREES: Stop, stop. I was like, this is looks like somebody is killing somebody else.

NABIL: There is one victim were wounded were screaming.

WATSON: Steven didn't know whether or not the gunmen were still in the airport on the hunt for more victims.

NABIL: At that point, I said I'm going to make a video to tell our story because we're going to most likely die here.

WATSON: Speaking in his family's Native Arabic, he tells them to pray for him.

SHOREES: I remember a tweet I told them this is the last seconds in our life and we are going to die here.

NABIL: This is when I realized that this is the moment that I might lose my family that I just made, everything I dreamed for.

WATSON: But Steven says if a militant came through the door, he wasn't going to go down without a fight.

NABIL: I was going on to kill him. This is it. I mean, this is my new life.

WATSON: Forty five minutes later, the terrified couple eventually emerge, to bloody scenes in the airport.

NABIL: I want to thank all the Turkish -- you know, first responders, the ambulances, the drivers, the cops, they're protecting us. They were doing their best. A lot of them were bleeding. So, they fought it out.

WATSON: An ambulance rushed Narneen to a hospital. She's recovering from bruises suffered after being trampled by panicked people fleeing the gunman. But dealing with the emotional trauma has barely began..

[03:10:02] SHOREES: I want to go back to the states. I don't -- I don't want to come to this country anymore. I don't want to come to the Middle East anymore.

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WATSON: This evening, the couple rushed to catch a flight out from another Istanbul airport, hoping to leave this horrible chapter of their honeymoon far behind.

Ivan Watson, CNN, Istanbul.

CHURCH: An incredible story of survival there. And a punishing round of U.S.-led air strikes on ISIS targets in Iraq is most likely not in retaliation for the attacks in Istanbul. The operation started Monday.

The Iraq's Ministry of Defense release new video showing U.S. war planes and Iraqi helicopters hitting ISIS vehicles outside the city of Fallujah. U.S. officials say they took great care not to hit civilians.

Joining me now to talk about these air strikes is CNN military analyst, Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona. Thank you, sir, for being with us.

Now, according to Iraq's Ministry of Defense, these air strikes on more than 500 vehicles fleeing Fallujah killed dozens of ISIS militants. And U.S. officials tell us that U.S. planes conducted precision strikes in this joint operation.

How significant is this, and what impact will it likely have on the effort to stop ISIS in its tracks?

RICK FRANCONA, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Well, this is a very good operation. We see both Iraqi army aviation and U.S. air force assets conducting these strikes. Very effective using Precision Guided Munitions and they're doing so because there are a lot of civilians in the area. They are always want to limit the civilian casualties.

They were able to take out of vehicle using the full-range of Precision Guided Munitions. This was well done and it really stopped ISIS because they've got to get all their assets up to Mosul because that's where the big fights is going to be. This robs them of many, many assets.

CHURCH: Yes. I wanted to talk to you about that. Because of course we understand this operation began on Monday and it's still ongoing. How might this all play into the effort to take back Mosul from ISIS?

FRANCONA: Well, we've seen in the past where the Iraqis the city. ISIS has been very successful at getting away and moving assets into the areas that they control. They didn't -- they were not able to do it this time.

Now the Iraqis are gearing up for the attack on Mosul. This is going to be a long drawn out operation because they got to go very far north with a lot of assets to take on ISIS.

But this really hurts ISIS and it's going to make the effort in Mosul a little easier, but it's still going to be a very, very tough battle.

CHURCH: And of course in the wake of the deadly terror attack on Istanbul's airport, there has been much talk of a more united global fight against ISIS that would include nations that been perhaps more reluctant to join at this point. How likely is that and how might it work?

FRANCONA: Well, I think we're going to see more nations coming together because this strike in Istanbul really woke a lot of people up. And it shows that ISIS is morphing into a different organization no longer are they actually a caliphate. They are losing ground every day.

Their loss of Mosul and Raqqa are predetermined. It's just how long it's going to take, what is the cost going to be. And then they turned into a terrorist organization more along the lines of Al Qaeda.

And many other nations are probably going to join the fight because they know that this is not going to be localized to Syria and Iraq, it's going to be coming to their doorsteps.

CHURCH: Rick Francona, always great to talk with you. Thank you so much.

FRANCONA: Good to be with you, Rosemary.

CHURCH: All right. We'll take a short break here. But still to come, the sharp divisions over Brexit are on display in the British Parliament.

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DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: It might be my party's interest for him to sit there. It's not in the address. And I would say for heaven's sake, man, go.

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CHURCH: Still ahead, David Cameron's flash of anger at the Labour leader. We're back in a moment.

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KATE RILEY, CNN WORLD SPORT ANCHOR: I'm Kate Riley with your CNN World Sport headlines.

British qualifier Marcus Willis had quite experience at Wimbledon when he face seven-time champion Roger Federer on Centre Court. The world 772 had battled through six rounds of qualifying and the first round but was beating, 6-0, 6-3, 6-4.

With only $300 and winning this year, Willis will pocket a sizable $67,000 and should rise more than 300 places in the world ranking. There would be no fairy tale for the Frenchman Adrian Mannarino

either. He was beaten by reigning Wimbledon champion, the world number one, Novak Djokovic in straight set.

The quarterfinals of Euro 2016 begin on Thursday with the first match taking place at Marseille between Poland and Portugal. The Pols will be hoping that goal draw started by captain Robert Lewandowski will end as they attempt to reach the semifinals of a major tournament for only the second time.

All eyes at (Inaudible) will be on Portugal's Cristiano Ronaldo at 31, and maybe his last realistic opportunity to take glory with his country. One player are already eliminated from the Euro, is a Swedish star Zlatan Ibrahimovic. But it's reported he'll complete his move to Manchester United by the end of the week. Zlatan is expected to sign a one-year deal which would make him the second signing for the new United boss, Jose Mourinho.

And that's a look at all your sports headlines. I'm Kate Riley.

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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody.

The markets have been open about 17 minutes now in Europe. And as you can see, right across the board, the FTSE down by .5 percent. The DAX in Germany down by almost 1 percent. Paris, almost down by 1 percent, as well. And in Zurich SMI down by more than down by more than half of 1 percent.

And after the Brexit vote, the political term terrain here in the U.K. is shifting with the number of leadership challenges. Lead campaigner Boris Johnson and Interior Minister Theresa May are among the conservatives expected to announce bids to succeed David Cameron as Prime Minister.

And Angela Eagle is expected to launch her challenge to incumbent Jeremy Corbyn for the leadership of the Labour Party. He lost a confidence vote on Tuesday, it was nonbinding and he's refusing to resign.

And in his first appearance before the Parliament since vote, Prime Minister David Cameron had a very blunt message for Mr. Corbyn.

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CAMERON: It is looking for excuses about why the side he and I were on about the referendum. Frankly, he should somewhere else. And I have to say to you honorable gentlemen, he talks about job insecurity and my two months to go.

It might be in my party's interest for him to sit there. It's not in the national address. And I would say, for heaven sake, man, go.

(END VIDEO CLIP) VAUSE: CNN's political contributor, Robin Oakley joins me now. So, Robin, you have David Cameron telling Jeremy Corbyn to go, you have the vast majority of the Parliamentary Party calling Jeremy Corbyn to go, you have four former leaders of the party appealing to him to step down, but yet he is standing firm. And there's a very good chance that he could win the next leadership challenge.

ROBIN OAKLEY, CNN POLITICAL CONTRIBUTOR: Absolutely. He had 60 percent of the vote last September among the party activist who will have the final say. He also got the trades unions behind him, 10 trade union leaders putting out a statement, backing him in this situation.

But what we're seeing here is a fight for the whole soul of the Labour Party, indeed, whether the Labour Party continues to exist in its present form. And Jeremy Corbyn may well be re-elected. Even though Angela Eagle, a popular M.P. who left in the party probably now has the support of 51 M.P.'s to put up a challenge against Jeremy Corbyn.

[03:20:10] If he comes back, you know, we may have labour splitting, having a separate leader in Parliament. We may have Labour M.P.'s deciding there's no future for them in the party. But it's also getting nasty with threats among the activists to deselect the M.P.'s who defied Jeremy Corbyn.

VAUSE: Yes. The anti-Corbyn faction. They have, the Labour Party has about an hour or so now to put their names forward for this leadership's field, with Angela Eagle will be there probably.

But then it will be 10 weeks before we could find out who the next leader of the Labour Party will be. And we have a similar situation on the conservative side. They got a couple of hours today to put their hands up. And then we won't know who the next prime minister will be until September.

OAKLEY: Yes. September the 9th. We have to wait until then to have somebody who can lead this country forward and start to shape the negotiating deal to take Britain out of Europe.

VAUSE: And that's looking like a challenge between Boris Johnson, the lead campaigner and Theresa May.

OAKLEY: Those are the two front runners. And, you know, it's going to be a challenge in which policies on immigration are essential, the vision for Britain's future outside Europe is vital. But also it's becoming a battle about class. Theresa Maya, a state educated daughter of a priest making very much of her credential as somebody who understands what life is like for ordinary top working families.

Boris Johnson, from a privilege background, a high earner in the media, Eton educated private school. And there's been this resentment at the top of the Conservative Party about David Cameron and George Osborne both being from rich backgrounds, privately educated and so on, there's a feeling that it's all party needs to get back in touch with ordinary people.

VAUSE: And very quickly, there's this an e-mail from, you know, Boris Johnson's potential deputy here, from his wife, essentially saying don't trust Boris.

OAKLEY: That's the big problem for Boris, the trust factor because people, many people think he really wanted to remain, but chose to vote, go for leave to further his own ambitions. This e-mail says that Michael Gove, his chief ally in the leave campaign shouldn't trust him without getting something in writing in terms of what job he's going to get.

VAUSE: Get it in writing.

OAKLEY: Just shows how...

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VAUSE: Got a fingers after a handshake. Good to speak with you. Thank you for being with us. We'll have much more on the Brexit later this hour. But now, back to Rosemary Church in Atlanta for more of the day's other news.

CHURCH: Thanks, John. Well, there is a new leader in the Philippines. Rodrigo Duterte was sworn in a little earlier as the country's 16th president. He won the election in May by 16 million votes.

He's known as the punisher for his get-tough approach to crime. Duterte has vowed to dump bodies of dead criminals in Manila Bay. He's also accused Catholic bishops of doing nothing but trying to get money for themselves.

Egyptian authorities say a flight data reporter retrieved from EgyptAir flight 804 shows signs of heat and smoke. The Airbus jet crashed into the Mediterranean during a flight from Paris to Egypt on May 19th. Sixty six people were on board.

There's no word on what caused the plane to dive. But this development could very well help investigators find out.

So, let's bring in CNN senior international correspondent Jim Bittermann for more details on this. And, Jim, this represents, of course, a significant and critical turning point in the investigation. And now that that we're learning that heat and smoke were involved, what's the next step in this investigation?

JIM BITTERMANN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, I think the next step is going to be to take a look at the cockpit recording of the voices of the pilots to find out exactly what they were reacting to, what kind of a situation they were reacting to.

The experts here are saying this morning that this seems to indicate that it may have been a mechanical failure rather than something else. Although it's still possible that heat and smoke could have been cause by some kind of a bomb or something like that.

Now it seems more likely that it may have been a mechanical failure that brought the plane down. In fact, what's happening right now is that the day -- the Egyptians are in charge of this investigation. So, all of the information that was taken off of the data recorder was sent to Egypt and that's where we're getting our information from.

However, both recorders, both the voice recorder and the data recorder was damaged pretty severely and they were brought here to France where they were working on the data recorder that they've managed to read it, and now they are working on the voice recorder trying to see if they can make that work as well, both pretty well damaged in the crash.

So, the other thing that's happening on this end is that the French prosecutor's office has opened up an investigation for involuntary man slaughter. This is kind of routine procedure here anytime a French person is killed overseas.

[03:25:01] And there were French on board the aircraft. They've opened up an investigation because it allows the prosecutor, then to be a part of the information chain and he can take a look at the kind of information that's being gathered to decide whether or not there really is somebody that could be responsible and criminally liable for it, Rosemary.

CHURCH: All right. Our Jim Bittermann in Paris, watching developments on this story. Many thanks to you.

And we have much more coverage of the Istanbul terror attack including why the CIA director thinks ISIS most strike next. We're back with that.

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CHURCH: A warm welcome back to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church at CNN World headquarters in Atlanta.

VAUSE: I'm John Vause outside Parliament in London.

GORANI: I'm Hala Gorani, live outside the airport in Istanbul. Another victim of Tuesday's attack has died here, bringing the grim total to 42. And also, keep in mind, more than 120 people are still being treated in hospitals across the city.

Investigators are now looking into new surveillance video that has emerged working to figure out who the three suicide bombers were and if they were directed or inspired by ISIS.

Now ISIS has not officially claimed responsibility for this act, but take a listen to this dire prediction from CIA director John Brennan.

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JOHN BRENNAN, U.S. CIA DIRECTOR: I would be surprised that ISIL is not considering carrying out these attacks in the near abroad as well as the far abroad.

[03:30:03] The United States, as we will know, is leading the coalition to try to destroy as much of this poison inside of Syria and Iraq as possible. So, it would be surprising to me that ISIL is not trying to hit us

both in the region as well as in our homeland.

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GORANI: Sophia Jones is a journalist for the Huffington Post and The WorldPost. She is based here in Istanbul. Talk to us about the reaction among Turks to this attack.

SOPHIA JONES, HUFFINGTON POST JOURNALIST: People are furious and they are terrified. But there's also -- people are coming out and they want to show their support and show that while these attackers wanted to divide and instill fear, that there's love and people care and people are donating blood. They're opening their homes to strangers and people are coming out in full force.

GORANI: OK. But what do they want their government to do? Because this is the eighth suicide bombing this year. And clearly, they must want -- I mean, do they want a strong response? Do they feel like if it is ISIS that this problem should be solved at the source in Syria and Iraq? What just as the kind of the general feeling among the public?

JONES: There is still quite a bit of support for the government. Most people are very pro-Erdogan. But there's also a bit of criticism. People are saying obviously what they're doing isn't enough.

GORANI: Yes.

JONES: And we -- or not we, they had the border open for years really. It would call the Jihadi highway, people could cross back and forth, militants, also refugees. Now that border is completely sealed and ISIS is reacting because of that.

GORANI: And the concern is there might be cells preparing other attacks.

JONES: There are ISIS cells in the city and in other major cities across the country. And there is concern that there will be future attacks. Now people are saying, look at this international airport, one of the biggest in the world can be attacked, what next, what next will happen?

GORANI: And what about you spoke of individual act of kindness and generosity. And I always loved those stories because we focus a lot on the evil of a terrorist attack and sometimes we overlook the fact that most people just want to help.

JONES: One woman told me that humanity wasn't lost because she had seen hundreds of people line up for hours to donate blood, more than she's ever seen. People are really showing that they care and that the victims and those strangers are not alone.

GORANI: And so many of the victims were in this case Muslim victims, Muslim victims of ISIS. So, well, the vast majority of the victims of ISIS attacks are Muslims. So, you also spoke to a hotel owner who, despite the fact that tourism

is a disaster this year because of other attacks has just opened his hotel for free.

JONES: The owner of this hotel told me that many hotels in the area were shutting down because there weren't enough tourists. But he was on Twitter and he saw that taxi drivers were overcharging tourists to leave the carnage and he opened up his hotel for free to 16 people who stayed that night.

GORANI: Now let's talk a little bit also about the fact that this airport, I mean, we're on this access road. Right here is the entrance where cars are stopped every -- before the attack every third or fourth car. So, it kind of look over in a superficial way sometimes. How has this changed? Are you seeing any major change to how the airport security is being handled?

JONES: It's pretty much operating as it always had. I'm sure there's heightened security. They're very worried about second attacks. But right now, there's no checkpoint to get into the vicinity of the airport.

So, if there was another bombing, it could target this area. What I'm wondering is if they're going to have future checkpoints so when you're driving if a bomb goes off, it will protect people.

GORANI: Well, because the big challenge is, of course, do you want to live under complete martial law where you have 10 perimeter of security and checkpoints making daily life virtually impossible.

JONES: It's a massive airport. If they had that many more checkpoints, the waits would be much longer, people could miss flights. There might be anger about that.

GORANI: Yes. All right. Sophia Jones, from the Huffington Post and The WorldPost based here in Istanbul, thanks very much for joining us.

And we'll have much more from Turkey in a moment. But let's turn now to John Vause who is in London. John.

VAUSE: Hala, thank you.

Well, British leaders scramble to figure out how the U.K. will lead the European Union. Scotland's First Minister is looking for ways to keep her country in. She met with E.U. leaders in Brussels on Wednesday to plead her case.

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NICOLA STURGEON, SCOTLAND'S FIRST MINISTER: We are nearly at very early stage I've set out very clearly, Scotland's desire to protect our relationship with the European Union.

I don't underestimate the challenges that lie ahead for us to find a path and this is very much an initial meeting. A series of meetings in Brussels to this so that people understand that Scotland, unlike other parts of the United Kingdom, doesn't want to leave the European Union.

But it was very much an introduction to the meeting. And (Inaudible).

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[03:34:59] VAUSE: CNN's David McKenzie live this hour from Edinburgh in Scotland. And, David, many exporters there they're counting the cost of a Brexit.

DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, that's right. You know, of course the U.K. is a huge market for food and drink manufacturers here in Scotland. But so is Europe and it's a growing one as European consumers enjoy things like whiskey and shortbread and all the products that make Scottish artisanal manufacturers famous.

We went to one baker who is hoping that their business is not going to be hurt.

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MCKENZIE: Hand rolled oatmeal bannocks. They've made them here at Fisher and Donaldson bakery for nearly a hundred years.

You don't get any more Scottish than this.

SANDY MILNE, BAKERY DIRECTOR: You don't get any more Scottish than that. Absolutely. As traditional as they come. And very -- they're handcrafted.

MCKENZIE: Sandy Milne has grown this family bakery into a thriving business. That employs more than a hundred people.

Would a Brexit affect your business?

MILNE: I just don't know. I don't know. I'm not sure that the -- I'm not sure the electorate the only answers before they made that decision.

MCKENZIE: But uncertainty is a bad thing.

MILNE: Uncertainty, absolutely, is a bad thing.

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MCKENZIE: The bakery holds a hard won royal seal of approval. So, when the queen or royal family is in Scotland and wants oatcakes, apple pie or some shortbread, they call on Milne. But his loyalty is being tested.

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MCKENZIE: So, would you rather be part of Europe or supply the royal family?

MILNE: I would definitely be happier to be part of a European family. Although the queen is right up there. (END VIDEO CLIP)

MCKENZIE: There is a very real possibility that Scotland, along with the rest of the U.K., could lose tariff free access to the continent with Brexit.

Around 20 percent of their product is taken from the bakery here and sent by distributors throughout the world. And one of the key markets, of course, is Europe.

The access has lifted the economy of fife and helped make some premium Scottish brands household names around the world.

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MCKENZIE: Can I have a bite?

MILNE: You can, indeed.

MCKENZIE: It's excellent.

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MCKENZIE: But, Bakers like Milne don't want the door the shut on their biggest future market.

Well, certainly not the hottest assignment in history there, John, certainly delicious products from that bakery. But one thing I found very interesting from that baker, Mr. Milne, is he talked about the generational effect of the economy here in Scotland, how his father and grandfather in that region, you know, they had these small family- run businesses.

The economy at times was depressed. And he attributes the access to the large open European market as one of the ways that these small businesses can expand and then access places that, you know, appreciate the quality of Scottish products.

So, he isn't sure, like anyone else, whether that door will be closed anytime soon, but it's certainly a worry for them because they do see a lot of progress amongst their own families in the last few generations. John?

VAUSE: Yes. It is always that question of uncertainty. And, of course, that will be with us for quite some time. David, thank you. David McKenzie, live in Edinburgh.

A short break here. When we come back, we are learning more about how the deadly terror attacks at Istanbul's airport unfolded. We'll tell you how each of the three attackers carried out their role in this coordinated strike.

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GORANI: Welcome back, everybody. I'm Hala Gorani. Live outside the Istanbul's Ataturk Airport. Turkey on this day is mourning, 42 people at least are dead after a terrifying attack here. No one has claimed responsibility for it, but U.S. and Turkish officials suspect ISIS is behind the triple suicide bombing. And we are learning more about how the attackers carried out this atrocity.

Our Tom Foreman has that.

TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We're getting a much better picture of exactly how these attacks unfolded. Let's look at the layout of the airport and think about what officials have told us.

At 9.50 in the evening, they say a taxi with the three gunmen in it pulled in right along in here, on the lower level. They all got out, they started shooting almost immediately, according to authorities.

And for some reason, one of them set off his bomb right in that area. It's not clear why. They were trying to penetrate the first layer of interior security. It's not clear if he couldn't get through or if something else happened. But he blew up his bomb right out here and according to one eyewitness, this may be the most powerful of all of the blasts.

Second gunman, he ended up going to the middle of the airport, down along here. Again, still in the area that they drove in on the lower level and he pushed through shooting until he got to the arrivals section.

Remember, a tremendous amount of confusion according to eyewitness. People didn't know which way to run and people getting off of planes coming into this who have no idea anything is happening. That's where this video comes from that you've seen so very much.

This one likely will have produced an awful lot of the injuries and casualties because you could see even in the video there were a lot of people there.

Last gunman ends up going all the way to the other end of the airport down here and he goes up one level where he is shooting at people. And he comes to this particular corner inside the airport.

That's where this video comes from, where he gets shot and put down by a police officer and while lying on the ground there, he sets off his explosive, but only after, really there's been enough time for a lot of people to really clear away from his position.

In any event, the important thing here is when you consider all these pieces of video and where these attacks happened in this airport, you can see why investigators are saying this looks very much like a coordinated, planned attack in which they spread out and tried to shoot at as many people as possible before the suicide bombers blew themselves up.

GORANI: Tom Foreman reporting there. We'll have a lot more from Ataturk International Airport here, more on the aftermath of this terrible triple suicide attack. Let's go back to Rosemary Church at the CNN center in Atlanta. She's

following other stories making headlines.

CHURCH: Thanks, Hala. We'll go back to you very soon.

[03:45:01] Let's turn to the U.S. presidential race. The latest political surveys have Hillary Clinton in the lead. CNN's poll of polls finds that 46 percent of registered voters surveyed across the U.S. say they would vote for the democrat.

Forty percent say they would vote for Donald Trump. And the presumptive republican presidential nominee is facing criticism for his suggestions on how to fight terrorism.

Now, democrats and republicans are angry at Trump for promoting a game, a controversial interrogation technique.

Our senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta has more.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Donald Trump's battlecry for fighting terrorists after the airport attack in Turkey, an eye for an eye.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, you have to fight fire with fire.

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ACOSTA: Hours after the bombings, Trump called for a return to waterboarding terror suspects for information, a controversial terror tactic widely considered torture and banned by the Obama administration.

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TRUMP: They probably think we're weak, we're stupid, we don't know what we're doing, we have no leadership.

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ACOSTA: And the productive GOP nominee suggested without providing any evidence to back his claim that international and U.S. laws banning torture during times of war, are standing in the way embolden groups like ISIS.

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TRUMP: They will say you can do anything you want and the more vicious you are, the better. So, we can do waterboarding...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

TRUMP: ... which is it's not the nicest thing, but it's peanuts compared to many alternatives, right? (END VIDEO CLIP)

ACOSTA: Trump's heated response to the carnage in Istanbul was a departure from his toned down descriptive speeches on display in recent weeks. And it goes way beyond Hillary Clinton's more muted reaction to the attack. In this tweet saying "All Americans stand united with the people of Turkey against this campaign of hatred and violence."

Some republicans like POW John McCain aren't ready to adopt the Trump doctrine arguing waterboarding is torture.

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JOHN MCCAIN, ARIZONA SENATOR: If we torture people, then what would we expect of our enemy would do to Americans that were captured? Si that open the door to that I could go on for a long period of time, but in summary, it's not the United States of America.

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ACOSTA: Trump is also on terror on trade. Promising voters he will rip off current U.S. trade deals like NAFTA and the proposed trans-Pacific trade deal.

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TRUMP: The trans-Pacific partnership is another disaster, done and pushed by special interests who want to rape our country just to continuing rape of our country.

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ACOSTA: Trump's trade proposals prompted a rare rebuke from the normally GOP friendly Chamber of Commerce which tweeted, "Under Trump's trade plans, we would see higher prices, fewer jobs, and a weaker economy. All of that has top republicans still reluctant to throw their full weight behind Trump.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, my hope is that he is beginning to pivot and become what I would call a more serious and credible candidate for the highest office in the land.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At the moment though, I hear you saying he does not need that threshold.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He is getting closer. Getting closer.

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CHURCH: And that was our senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta reporting there.

U.S. President Barack Obama met with his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Ottawa and reassured them that ties between their countries will remain strong, even if Donald Trump is elected president.

Mr. Obama went off on what he called a rant. And without naming Trump disputed the idea that the presumptive presidential nominee is a populist. He also denounced demagogues in the immigration debate.

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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PRESIDENT: They don't sound like become a populist because they say something controversial in order to win votes. That's not the measure of populism. That's nativism or xenophobia. Or worse.

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CHURCH: Al right. We'll take a very short break here. We'll be right back. Stay with us.

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GORANI: All right. Welcome back, everybody.

To be completely transparent with the view, it's an absolute deluge right here at the Turkey International Airport as we continue to cover the aftermath of that triple suicide bombing at this international transport hub and the ripple affect around the world.

The big question is going to be for many who run at the airports is how do you prevent attacks like this? How do you protect travelers from attacks like this? As Rene Marsh reports, it has prompted airports in the U.S. to also ramp up their security. Take a look.

RENE MARSH, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: The threat to so-called soft target areas at airports make the long wait time seen across the country not only an inconvenience, but a security concern.

Following the Istanbul attacks, some U.S. airports have ramped up security at their perimeters. In New York and New Jersey, officers are equipped with tactical weapons.

In Miami and Atlanta, there's an increased police presence. In the U.S., the Department of Homeland Security is responsible for airport security checkpoints.

CNN has learned the agency has discussed options to extend its security breach. The idea is widening the security presence that could begin at the entrance or even the parking lot. But former DHS official, Juliette Kayyem says that wouldn't be effective.

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JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Certainly, you could extend the security 10 miles away from an airport and guess what, the vulnerability will be at mile 10.1.

And so, you know, at some stage, we just have to accept a level of vulnerability given the threat that we have today.

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[03:55:00] MARSH: Because Istanbul's airport has several direct flights to and from the United States, DHS requires strict screening procedures comparable to U.S. standards.

The head of the TSA told CNN in May, if those rules are not followed, flights could be prohibited.

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MARSH: How often do you go over to check up on these airports?

PETER NEFFENGER, TSA ADMINISTRATOR: If we've got a reason of concern, it can be -- it can be as frequently as every week. And if you've got a reason that you trust, it can be -- it can be less frequent than that.

MARSH: But regardless of the standard and police presence, it's impossible to eliminate all airport vulnerabilities.

Rene Marsh, CNN, Washington.

GORANI: All right. Well, there you have it. Airport security, a major concern, as well. The weather here is miserable. The mood is somber. Forty two people confirmed dead in this triple suicide bombing with many here asking that their government do something to protect them.

But also, we've heard many stories of individual heroism and random acts of kindness. Hotels opening their doors and taking in people for free, even though the tourism season has been dreadful in Turkey.

We've also seen security officers at the airport put their own lives at risk in order to try to take down those terrorists before they could mow down more innocents.

We'll continue our coverage of what happened here in Istanbul about 36 hours ago, after a quick break.

Thanks for watching for now. I'm Hala Gorani, live in Istanbul.

CHURCH: And I'm Rosemary Church. We'll be back with much more after this very short break. Stay with us.

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