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NANCY GRACE
Man Caught on Video Trying to Kidnap 13-Year-Old Girl at Dollar General; Identical Twin Yoga Teachers Plunge Off Cliff in Car; Change.org Petitions to Remove Judge Aaron Persky After Stanford Swimmer Sentence. Aired 8-9p ET
Aired June 8, 2016 - 20:00 ET
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[20:00:01] NANCY GRACE, HLN HOST: Breaking news tonight, caught on video. Shocking footage captures a 30-year-old perv stalking, then suddenly
grabbing a little girl, dragging the girl across the floor of a Florida Dollar General store, when suddenly, her mother catches on and tries
desperately to stop him.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shopping with her mom one minute, terrified by a crazed man bent on kidnapping her the next. You can see him attack from behind,
grabbing the girl`s arm and pulling her with him. Her mother soon joins in, and the three are launched into a violent tug-of-war.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Did 37-year-old yoga guru Alexandria Duval intentionally drive her gorgeous identical twin sister off a 200-foot cliff, plunging their Ford
Explorer onto a rocky shore?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The two girls were sitting in a car together. One was driving and one was a passenger. The sister was pulling her sister`s hair,
apparently. And when she took off, it was in a rage.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Plowed through the rock wall, falling 200 feet to the shoreline below.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Stanford University ex-champion swimmer gets a slap on the wrist for raping an unconscious woman, a slap on the wrist -- six months in
county jail after a jury finds him guilty on three felony sex attacks on an unconscious girl outside a frat party. To top it all off, the perp`s dad
writes, "Prison is a steep price for just 20 minutes of action."
We dig up the champion swimmer turned rapist`s original mugshot, and it`s not the glamour shot he wants you to see, this as a move afoot to get that
judge off the bench.
Bombshell now. The Good Samaritan grad student who saves the victim says she was unconscious the entire time, even breaking down in tears as he
recalls the moment they saved the girl. Can the judge`s slap on the wrist actually be thrown out over allegations the rapist actually lied to the
judge?
We learn reports of drug and alcohol abuse allegations and uncover this judge allowed scantily clad photos, underwear photos of an alleged gang
rape victim to be shown in court. What was he thinking? Ladies, do you want a shot of you in your underwear in front of a jury during a rape
trial? Think about it!
Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us.
Bombshell tonight, caught on video. Shocking footage captures a 30-year- old perv stalking, then suddenly grabbing a little girl, dragging her across the floor of a Florida Dollar General, when suddenly, her own mother
catches on to what`s going on and fights tooth and nail to stop the guy.
First of all, let`s take a look at the video from the get-go. Here he is. OK, now, that`s the end of the video. There he is, going up and down the
aisles as if he`s shopping. Oh, yes, there`s a fake yawn and a stretch. What he`s actually doing is scoping out the little girl.
Keep looking. Keep looking. He`s trying to get closer to her. All of a sudden -- suddenly, there, between two aisles, he grabs the girl. He`s got
her by her clothes and he`s dragging her out the door. The girl can`t get loose. Finally, the mother throws herself -- throws herself on him in a
desperate attempt to try and save the little girl as she`s being dragged out the door.
To Ray Caputo, reporter, WDBO -- Ray, where was this?
RAY CAPUTO, WDBO (via telephone): Oh, Nancy, this is absolutely ridiculous. It happened just before noon yesterday. The suspect, Craig
Bonello, was in a Dollar General store along with this mother and her daughter. This was in Hernando County (ph). It`s a rural town. This sort
of thing doesn`t happen.
GRACE: Rural? A rural town? That, in itself, is highly unusual, that a stalker, a kidnapper, a child predator would appear in a rural area at this
Dollar General. Long story short, that`s almost unheard of where the crime rates are so low.
Back to you, Caputo. Where, again, is this?
CAPUTO: It`s north of Tampa. It`s a small, little rural town called Hernando. You know, it`s near a state park, near the coast. You know, and
-- you know, this sort of thing doesn`t happen there. And out of nowhere, this explosive video of this guy attacking this young girl is so out of the
ordinary and so shocking.
[20:05:06]GRACE: Take a look at what he`s doing. He is very intentionally following them around. As he just goes out of sight -- there he goes! Did
you see that in the corner? That`s when he grabs her between two aisles. Here you go. Thanks, Liz.
Take a look at the little girl trying to get away. The mom is trying to stop, but she can`t. She can`t get his hands off her little girl. Look.
Look. He`s dragging the two of them straight to the door.
So Ray Caputo, who is this guy? Who is Bonello, a 30-year-old man? Who is he? What do we know?
CAPUTO: Well, Nancy, he`s had several run-ins with the law. You know, his neighbors have said he`s a strange guy who keeps to himself. His own uncle
has said that Bonello has some issues and needs to get help. You know, the bottom line is the guy`s a bit off. Especially after seeing what he did in
the video, you can kind of make that assessment.
GRACE: Well, hold on. Look, everything`s always been dropped, disorderly, intoxication, resisting an officer, aggravated assault with a deadly
weapon. I mean, his history goes back, what is this, seven years, when he was in his early 20s.
And he clearly knows what he`s doing. Look. Look! He`s stalking. He`s been following them around the whole time they`ve been in the Dollar
General. From the very beginning, he`s only been one aisle away from the little girl.
At first, the mom didn`t even realize what was happening. Look at that! The mom screaming, chasing him, but she could not get the little girl away
from him.
So Ray Caputo, when you say he`s a little off, I mean, I guess the fact that he tries to kidnap, does kidnap a little girl from a Dollar General in
plain view, he wants the little girl so badly -- if you call that "off," fine. I call it a child predator.
So I guess your argument, Ray Caputo, would be what, every child predator has a mental defect?
CAPUTO: No, Nancy. Well, here`s the thing is that he`s not a sex offender. You know, he has had several run-ins with the law. He`s no
altar boy. His most serious charge is battery on a law enforcement officer. You know, his charges, trespassing. It`s lot of misdemeanors,
but certainly nothing like what he`s accused of doing here.
GRACE: Hold on! Ray Caputo, you say he`s no sex offender. Can I ask you this? What do you think he was doing, taking her out for an ice cream?
CAPUTO: Well, Nancy, it`s clear that he did not have good intentions and you know...
GRACE: No, break it down. Break it down! When you say he did not have good intentions, what else would he be doing with the little girl, taking
her out to either molest her or kill her. He`s already, under the law, kidnapped her, end of story. And he`s caught on video. But you say he`s
no sex offender.
OK, then let`s follow through the logical end to your statement. What do you think, Ray Caputo? Why else would he drag her out, being attacked by
the mother, and actually, the mom can`t stop him -- why do you think he`s taking her out?
CAPUTO: Well, Nancy, again, I think that he has the worst intentions in mind. But you know, also, there`s another side to it. I mean, he`s a bit
off, and he could be doing this for attention. I mean, nowadays, when these videos -- he had to have known that there`s videos in this store.
This is in broad daylight, mind you. I don`t know what`s going through this guy`s head, but there`s...
GRACE: Wait a minute. So you`re saying that you believe there`s a chance he did this for attention because he must have known there was a
videocamera. Ray Caputo, you don`t really believe that, do you? You`re just arguing for argument`s sake, right?
CAPUTO: My job is to present all sides of the story, Nancy. (INAUDIBLE)
GRACE: OK, you`re right, Ray. You`re right. Unleash the lawyers, Janet Johnson, veteran defense attorney out of Jacksonville, Jeff Gold, defense
attorney out of New York, and also joining us out of Phoenix, certified child welfare law specialist Ashley Willcott. To all of you, thank you for
being with us.
All right, Janet Johnson, I`ll let you take the first crack at it. What could possible be his defense? Because he does not have a mental defect,
OK?
JANET JOHNSON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, how are we eliminating that? I mean it`s just as obviously as a mental defect as evidence that he`s
perverted. There was nothing sexual in that video. It was off. And I think, you know, I`m agreeing with Ray on this, he clearly has a mental
health problem. He batters cops. But he has not been a known pervert. And just because she`s a little girl does not mean his intentions were to
molest her...
GRACE: Look at that big, fake yawn and stretch as he`s stalking her. He stuck with them one aisle away the entire time. Watch this! As you`re
watching it, Janet Johnson, who says he`s not a perv, give me one good reason, one legitimate reason he would kidnap this child. Give me one!
JOHNSON: He`s delusional. Maybe he doesn`t even know that he`s kidnapping a child.
[20:10:00]GRACE: Oh. OK. May I ask you, Janet Johnson, are you privy to some document that says he`s ever been treated for a mental illness ever?
Because I don`t have that.
JOHNSON: Well, but you know, when you say his charges were dropped...
GRACE: That`s a yes/no.
JOHNSON: I`m not privy.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: ... a no.
JOHNSON: ... face that his charges are dropped -- well, maybe. Maybe. That`s an answer, too.
GRACE: Maybe you know something, but what, you`re not telling? You`re keeping it a secret?
JOHNSON: Well, in Florida, where I practice, sometimes they don`t bother to get an evaluation. It`s too expensive. And they just drop the charges
when there`s mental health problems.
GRACE: I`ve never heard of Lady Justice dropping a charge because to get a mental health evaluation is too expensive.
Ashley Willcott, certified child welfare law specialist, you and I have seen this over and over and over and over. The only thing they can argue,
Ashley, is that there must -- he must be insane. You know why? If it weren`t caught on video, they`d say it didn`t happen, there`s no proof.
It`s the little girl`s word against his. But since it is caught on video, their back`s against the wall. They`ve got to argue something, so -- what
do you think, Willcott?
ASHLEY WILLCOTT, CERTIFIED CHILD WELFARE LAW SPECIALIST (via telephone): Right, Nancy, I completely agree. But listen, just because he is not
listed as a prior sex offender does not mean that he`s never done this before. He might have done this to other children before. It might have
not have been recorded. He might not have been prosecuted. He may not have been convicted.
So it`s not fair to say, just because he`s not a registered sex offender, he`s never perped on a child before.
GRACE: Yes, I find it very difficult to believe -- to Dr. Charles Sophy, psychiatrist out of LA -- that this is his first time at the rodeo, you
know, that suddenly, he goes from -- I mean, he`s got a criminal history -- that he goes from no sex offenses to kidnapping a little girl in broad
daylight.
DR. CHARLES SOPHY, PSYCHIATRIST: I fully agree. I mean, if you look at the way he goes about all this, it`s way too premeditated. He`s yawning.
He`s scoping out the area. He doesn`t have a mental illness per se. He has a premeditation and thought process going on. He`s looking to attack
for a reason.
GRACE: You know, Jeff Gold, you`re a JD. Sophy`s an MD. Do you take issue with what he said?
JEFF GOLD, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Look, this is the craziest video I`ve ever seen. I don`t know if he`s crazy, but if I`m a defense attorney, that`s
where I`m going to go because I -- it`s broad daylight. He knows these stores have video. He`s grabbing from the mom! And it`s not like the mom
resists and he goes, Oh, OK, I`m leaving. He`s trying to pull that kid! It`s ridiculously crazy. I don`t know if he`s insane legally, but that`s
where you got to go.
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[20:16:26]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The video sends shivers down your spine, spying his intended victim, then making his move with the girl`s mother
steps away.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pulling a 13-year-old girl as her mother desperately tries to prevent it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: How vigilant can we be? This mother has her little girl at the Dollar General. Little does she know that this perv, Craig Bonello, a 30-
year-old man, has stayed only one aisle away from them since the time they come in. He stalked them up and down every aisle in the Dollar General
until he makes his move.
And if you watch him make his move, he once again is stationed one aisle away, tall enough to look over the aisle. Then with a fake stretch and a
yawn, he crosses over, grabs the girl when the mom looks away for one split second, and it`s over. He gets the girl and heads for the door.
Hold on. Let`s go in to the police presser.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: During the interview with the Major Crimes, he did admit that he had done this before, so I want to get that out in the open.
We have no way to validate that. But I will tell you that because of the adjutant (ph) circumstances, we did go to his residence, we did clear the
residence, and there is nobody there.
So for all sakes and purposes, we can`t put any truth to those statements, but I want to put that out there because you may hear it through the
process of this case.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Out to Ray Caputo, reporter, WDBO. Did you hear the police state the defendant himself admits he has done this before?
CAPUTO: Yes, Nancy. And you know, but I also heard the cops not sounded (ph) all too concerned about all this. So, you know, getting back to that
theory that he could be doing all this for attention -- I mean, he told the investigators he has done it before. He admitted to the brazen, shocking
crime that we`ve all seen on video. I mean, I don`t know what other reason...
GRACE: I don`t know. Maybe -- maybe I`m the one here that`s bass- ackwards, but when a guy grabs a little girl and drags her out of a store and then admits he has done this before, your phraseology about not being
concerned -- I think it`s the polar opposite.
Michael Christian, what more do we know about this guy, other than he`s got a rap sheet as long as my arm. He`s caught on tape, and he has told police
he`s done it before. And he`s got the perfect location, living all alone.
MICHAEL CHRISTIAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: That`s right, Nancy. He told police he didn`t have a job, and he basically corroborated most of what we
see on this videotape. He said that was in the store. He said did have a fight with the mother. But the most important thing was he did not say
what he intended to do with this girl, if he had gotten away with her.
GRACE: Take a look at this, guys. Take a look at this video from beginning to end. Can we rack it at the beginning? Because what is
significant here is the stalking. He gets this fake stuff in his cart. He`s not buying that. Did you see the yawn and the stretch? He`s pushing
it around, these items he`s pretending he`s going to by. He sees the mom turn away. And then there he is. There he makes the move when the mom`s
head is turned.
[20:20:02]Now, if that is not premeditation, Dr. Charles Sophy, I don`t know what is!
SOPHY: I agree. It totally is. He thought about it and he acted on it. And you could see it. It all follows through, his thought process and his
behaviors. They follow in line.
GRACE: Back to the police presser.
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CAPUTO: As I watched the video, one of the things I found very, very curious was that he was intentionally shopping. He did look around, up and
down the aisles. He did notice this young lady and her mom. And then, at one particular time, he loosened up. He was stretching. And at that
particular point, after stretching, he then approached them. And then -- you know, you can use a lot of words, a lot of adjectives. I think the
word comes to mind -- violent, a violent attack on this young lady.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[20:25:00]UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A violent attack on this young lady.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Appears to be shopping at the Dollar General in Citrus County. What deputies are looking into is what the suspect does
next.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They`re tugging on each other. It was violent enough to tear the girl`s shirt up pretty badly.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Joining me, Ashley Willcott out of Phoenix, Janet Johnson in Jacksonville and Jeff Gold joining me out of New York.
The reality is, Janet Johnson, that this is already a kidnap. Kidnap does not require any period of time or any specific specific length that you
take the person. If it had all ended at the end of aisle three, it would have been a kidnap, even an inch. Any movement or asportation (ph) at all
against the victim`s will under the law is a kidnap. So right there, he`s looking at 1 to 20, Janet.
JOHNSON: Well, you know, what`s interesting in his statement is that he said he`d done that before. I think he was talking about fighting with the
mother. I don`t think that he`s admitting that he took the child or intended to take that child.
And he has a violent history of fighting with people, including the police. You know, it`s a battery to me. And I think, ultimately, he`s admitting to
a battery against the mother. I think he has a mental health defense and he may have a defense to the kidnapping.
GRACE: OK. Ashley Willcott, throw me a bone here. Have you ever heard such nonsense, ever, that I just heard? And Janet Johnson is a renowned
defense attorney in Jacksonville. She`s won a lot of cases. But there is no way that this guy has had a fight with that mom. Obviously, they didn`t
know each other. They weren`t even speaking. He was stalking them!
WILLCOTT: No defense. No defense. Even if he was in a fight with the mom, who cares? He still grabbed the child by the arm, took the child, and
under the law as it reads, kidnapped that child. I cannot imagine there`s any defense to the charge of kidnapping as it stands right now against him.
And remember, he was 6-2 -- he is, according to the affidavit, 6-2, 200 pounds. He`s a larger man. He took this child.
GRACE: You know, to Dr. Charles Sophy, psychiatrist and author out of LA. Dr. Sophy, what does it mean to you that he`s willing to do it in broad
daylight?
SOPHY: It means to me that he doesn`t really have -- he has no judgment, so he`s not thinking through any of the consequences here, which means he`s
actively behaving impulsively, but he`s premeditating it. And that premeditation clears him from being psychotic or having any major mental
problem at this point.
GRACE: I mean, I agree with Sophy, Jeff Gold. I mean, you see him stalking. There`s more video than what we`re seeing where he stalks them
through -- all around the store before he makes his move. I mean, how can it even be argued that this was a delusional impulse? Because he clearly
is planning it.
GOLD: Nancy, the fact that kidnapping is such a heinous offense and that he`s doing it under the circumstances we`ve described -- broad daylight,
video and grabbing from the mom when she`s hanging on for dear life -- actually adds to the fact that he must be crazy.
GRACE: Oh, good -- you could say that about every violent offender.
Back to the presser quickly.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CAPUTO: As I had pulled in, I saw through the glass door what I thought was a commotion, wasn`t sure what. Next thing I know, the suspect comes
running out the front door. The store manager, who is known to me -- we frequent that Dollar General personally quite a bit. So we know all the
employees, my wife and I -- started yelling at me, John, he just tried to kidnap a girl.
He ran around the corner of the building. I put the patrol car in reverse. I drove around the side of the building. I saw him get into a vehicle. He
closed the door, backed up very quick. I boxed him in.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[20:30:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Did 37-year-old yoga expert, Alexandria Duval, intentionally drive her beautiful identical twin sister off a 200-foot cliff, plunging the Ford
Explorer on to a rocky shore?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Identical twin yoga teachers were in their Ford Explorer when it suddenly plunged 200 feet off a cliff, killing one sister and
injuring the other.
LAWRENCE LAU, BOY SCOUTS CHAPERONE: ... she floored it and was in a rage as she sped past us.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Joining me from "The Maui News", Chris Sugidono. Chris, thank you for being with us.
I`m stunned about the entire scenario. And there has been a lot of discussion, this is not a second-degree murder. But in your jurisdiction,
second-degree murder is causing the death, knowingly and intentionally, causing the death of another.
Chris, is there any suggestion that this woman, Alexandria Duval, broke? That she hit the brakes, that she tried to steer away from the cliff? Any
suggestion of that, Chris?
CHRIS SUGIDONO, "THE MAUI NEWS" STAFF WRITER: Well, reading the probable cause report, there were no attempts of any braking during the event, and a
witness did report that the driver appeared to be in a rage, and the woman sitting in the passenger seat, which was Anastasia, was pulling the hair of
Alexandria, who was driving the car, right before Alexandria made a sharp left turn and plunged to the rocks below.
[20:35:00] GRACE: Trying to get her to slow down would be my guess. Joining me right now, special guest, Alan Akina, who actually saw the crash
aftermath. Alan, thank you for being with us.
ALAN AKINA, SAW CRASH AFTERMATH: You`re welcome.
GRACE: Alan, what did you see?
AKINA: So, the situation was that I`m a Boy Scout leader there in Hawaii and I had my Boy Scout troop camping about 200 yards away from where the
accident took place and it was actually my two leaders and two of my scouts, my 15-year-old Boy Scouts that witnessed the entire scene.
So, they were the last ones to see them that go off the cliff. And your person that you just had on is absolutely right, they did not brake. There
was no braking that took place. And, you know, those roads there in Hana are very, very narrow.
In some places they allow one car to go at a time and in most places, when you go two at a time, is very tight. So, it`s hard to navigate but, you
know, this is a very traumatic situation, being there on the scene. I mean, to see what happened and to get reports from some of the locals that were
in the area that made their way down that 200-, 300-foot cliff before any of the fire department or police department got there. They came up and
gave us the report and it was just gruesome to hear what the scene looked like inside the car.
GRACE: We are looking at the wreckage of that 2016 Ford Explorer right now. Can you describe the scene once the twins, once Alexandria, drove the
Explorer off the cliff? What was the scene, Alan Akina?
AKINA: OK. So my two leaders were driving the van going toward Hana and they came around the bend and they saw this car, this Ford Explorer stopped
in the middle of the road.
And it had its hazard lights on and so they pulled up because they couldn`t go around it because the roads are so tight, so they stopped about 40 feet
away and they witnessed two girls fighting. They said, we saw two girls fighting, screaming and we saw hair being pulled.
Now, here`s the interesting thing was that the hazard lights were on. And after a bit of fighting and screaming and pulling of the hair, the driver
had the presence of mind to actually turn the hazard lights off and put the car in drive and then floored it.
And they zoomed past our van and probably 60 feet after that, made a quick left and it went through, like a 3-foot high rock wall and then took off
over the cliff.
So, I know the preliminary reports are coming back that, you know, she attempted murder. But after we -- after I interviewed my leaders and my
scouts and we had time to process it that night, we thought there might be another angle to it because, you know, who, in their right mind, would kill
themselves?
Basically, you are going off a 200- to 300-foot cliff, you are going to die. It`s a miracle that she survived at all. You are going to die. So, the
one thing that we thought, and here`s why.
All of my leaders and scouts, and there were two other tourists that were behind our van that saw the incident. All of them could not confirm that
there was someone sitting in the passenger seat. Even the local that went down to the car, he said that the other girl was in the backseat and he
couldn`t find a pulse on her.
So, what we thought was, hey, you know what, maybe she was in the backseat and they were fighting and they pulling hair -- everyone knows they were
pulling hair but to pull her hair, you would reach between the driver and passenger seat. And so you would actually be pulling sort of toward the
right.
If you are pulling toward the right, your natural reaction to get out of someone pulling your hair would be to go the opposite way. So she had to
pull left, maybe when she pulled left accidentally turned hard left as well. So, you know ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: And interesting, along that train of thought to Corporal Dwaine Parker, accident reconstructionist, the so-called black box of the Ford
Explorer is likely going to show what witnesses say, that even if she had turned left, by accident, she never tried to brake, Corporal Parker?
[20:40:00] CORPORAL DWAINE PARKER, ACCIDENT RECONSTRUCTIONIST: Yes, that`s correct, Nancy. And your guest that just came on, his theory of being
pulled back to the right and her reaching up to grab the steering wheel for bracing herself would allow you the ability to turn left of the steering
wheel. That is a plausible case. And the data from the black box thus shows that the steering wheel was turned and that the vehicle went in that
direction and that there was no braking applied.
If she`s being pulled to the right, perhaps her body is now out of alignment from sitting within the driver`s compartment and her leg extended
and hitting the gas pedal and at that point she has no presence of mind to even hit the brake pedal or capability to hit the brake pedal.
So I think that the fighting, the domestic dispute, between the sisters is going to play a big part in the ...
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: I think you are right. And there`s so much more to it. Matt Zarrell, you`ve got the reports from eyewitnesses that say they had been fighting
all day long, that the perpetrator was apparently jealous of her identical twin sister. Jealous over what, I`m not sure.
That they had been living the high life off of their yoga membership, their class students and they absconded with all that membership money. And they
were having financial fights. I mean, look at this yoga studio. It`s packed with students.
Not only that, she refused to talk to police, EMTs or the hospital staff about what happened. And she tried to flee the jurisdiction, Matt Zarrell.
MATT ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yes. She tried to flee multiple times. The police checked with the TSA and the airport. She tried to get to the
West Coast multiple times. The other thing that the cops are going to focus on is multiple witnesses saw rage in Duval`s eyes as she hit the gas and
took off over the cliff. That could play a significant role in this case.
GRACE: And she is headed straight for a preliminary hearing at this hour. To Dr. Bradley Marcus, chief medical examiner, Richland County, joining us
tonight.
Dr. Marcus, how is it that the driver, the sister, Alexandria Duval, who changed her name. Her name used to be Alison Dadow, why did she just hurt
her arm and she`s in a sling while the sister, formally Ann Dadow, now Anastasia Duval, I mean, they ditched their names and legally got a name
change so nobody could really trace them. Why does she die of head trauma and the perp just has her arm in a sling, Dr. Marcus?
DR. BRADLEY MARCUS, RICHLAND COUNTY CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER: Well, it depends, you know. I`m not sure if one or the other was not wearing a
seatbelt or not because that can play a significant effect on injuries sustained in the crash and she could have been in a position where the air
bag went off or something and she was protected inside of the vehicle.
[20:45:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
GRACE: Stanford University champion swimmer gets a slap on the wrist for raping an unconscious woman. Just six months in county jail after a jury
finds him guilty on three felony sex attacks on an unconscious girl.
To top it all off, the perp`s dad writes that prison is a steep price for just "20 minutes of action."
We dig up the swimmer-turned-rapist`s original mug shot, not the glamour shot he wants you to see. This is a move to get the judge off the bench.
But bombshell tonight, the good Samaritan gad students who saved the victim, confirm she was unconscious the entire time, lying there on the
ground in the dirt and the pine straw, half naked. She had no idea what was going on. The good Samaritan grad student even breaking down in tears,
describing the moment they save her.
Now, can the judge`s slap on the wrist actually be thrown out over new allegations? The swimming star actually lied to the judge. This, as we
learn reports of drug and alcohol abuse allegations by the perp.
We uncover this judge actually allowed scantily clad photos, like underwear photos, of an alleged gang rape victim to be showed in court on a previous
case.
What was he thinking? Ladies, do you want a shot of you in your underwear in front of a jury during a rape trial? Think about it.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just six months in county jail and probation.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... and I went to pull down my underwear and I felt nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... for sexually assaulting a woman who passed out drunk.
CARL-FREDRIK ARNDT, STUDENT WHO WITNESSED THE SEXUAL ASSAULT: ... the guy ran away. My friend Peter chased after him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... having huge repercussions.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You have dragged me through this hell with you, dipped me back into that night again and again ...
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GRACE: That is from "CBS This Morning." I want you to hear what one of these good Samaritans say. Now, this is objective, no skin in the game, no
dog in the fight. This is what they say. Listen.
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ARNDT: Saw a couple which seemed OK at first. Then when we looked closer, Peter started noticing -- and I later - that she wasn`t moving. Then
stopped, basically talked about what to do. We decided to approach her and starting to ask `What was going on?` Then after, he stood up. We saw she
wasn`t moving at all. So talked to him briefly, then he started running away. My friend Peter ran after and caught him. I attended to her quickly
then basically we stayed until the police came.
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GRACE: That`s from KNTV. Now, notice the two grad students who say she`s unconscious, continue to say the girl was unconscious the whole time.
But in court, documents and in his testimony on the stand, the defendant says, she gave consent. That she was conscious. Who do you believe? Do you
believe these two impartial grad students or do you believe the swimmer- turned-convicted-rapist? Who do you believe? Take a listen to this.
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[20:50:00] ARNDT: So we called him out on it. And the guy ran away, my friend Peter chased after him. I ran after him as well. Then we detained
him until the police came essentially.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was unconscious?
ARNDT: She was unconscious.
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GRACE: She was unconscious. That`s from the "CBS Evening News." This case has juggernauted out of control because now, there are allegations,
allegations, according to court documents, that this guy, the swimming champ from Stanford, had abused drugs and alcohol.
What he told the judge was he was very inexperienced. In other words, negating what happened that night. To Will Garbe, reporter with the "Dayton
Daily News," what did Turner actually say to the judge about his experience with alcohol?
WILL GARBE, "DAYTON DAILY NEWS" REPORTER: Nancy, we are learning more about what the prosecution found when law enforcement took a look at his phone.
We are learning that he insinuated at some point that there may have been some drug and alcohol use back in high school but we are still digging into
finding more about where all this came from.
He was from a small town in Ohio, it`s actually a suburb of Dayton, Ohio. It`s about 9,000 people, Montgomery County where it is, it`s about 500,000
people, so it`s a wealthy suburb where he is from. And we are learning more about what type of alcohol use there may have been when he was a student at
Oakwood High School in Oakwood, Ohio.
GRACE: I mean, Dave Mack, did you hear what Will Garbe just told us from the "Dayton Daily News"? Dave, syndicated talk show host.
So, he`s telling the judge, "I`m an inexperienced drinker."
DAVE MACK, SYNDICATED TALK SHOW HOST: Yup. He is claiming a lot of them ...
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GRACE: Really? Because there are now allegations that that is not true. He insists the girl was not unconscious and gave consent, but the girl didn`t
come to in the hospital for two hours. And not only that, two impartial observers said she was out cold.
So what he said, if they are to be believed, is a lie.
MACK: Everything he has said up to this point, Nancy, is a lie. Here is the part.
He was convicted. He got three felony convictions for rape. This guy still won`t admit that. And they talk about alcohol like he just started when he
got to college. Total lie. We`re going to prove that before this is over with.
This story gets worse and worse the more you dig in. He`s an experienced party monster who raped a woman in the dirt by a dumpster. She was not
conscious. And, by the way, it was three hours, Nancy, from the time the police first made sure she was breathing but not conscious until she
actually came to in the hospital. Three hours passed before she woke up.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was butt naked all the way down to my boots, legs spread apart.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... for a California judge sentenced a former student, 20-year-old Brock Turner, to six months in jail ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... and had been penetrated by a foreign object by someone I did not recognize.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman ...
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GRACE: Right now a move afoot to have the judge thrown off the bench as we find out that apparently the Stanford swimming champion lied to the judge.
The judge gives him a sweetheart sentence of just six months in county jail on three jury verdicts of sex assault.
To Will Garbe with the "Dayton Daily News," question, what do we know about the dad setting up a fund for this guy`s legal defense fee?
GARBE: Nancy, the "Dayton Daily News" found that -- we found a Facebook page that a family friend had set up for Brock Turner, for his legal fees,
directed it to a local credit union.
I jumped on the phone yesterday. I called up the credit union, and the credit union confirmed to me that the dad of Brock Turner set up the
account, it is still an active account, and that is -- that Facebook page has been taken down, though.
GRACE: But the account is still active?
GARBE: That, as of yesterday, the account was still active.
GRACE: You know, Stacey Newman on the story. Stacey, what can you tell me about this judge allowing in, in a gang rape case, it was De Anza versus --
State versus De Anza, scantly clad photos of the alleged rape victim.
STACEY NEWMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Yeah. This young woman had accused a baseball team, or baseball players of this gang rape. Well, the judge
decided the jury would be allowed to see photos of her dressed in more skimpy outfits and Nancy, there were seven pictures and the pictures were a
year after the alleged gang rape.
GRACE: Everyone this is movement afoot at Change.org to get Aaron Persky off the bench.
Let`s stop to honor American heroes, Oklahoma detective, Darrell Miller and Major David Huff. They saved a 2-year-old tot girl held at knifepoint in
front of her distraught mom and terrified Walmart shoppers. The suspect gunned down while holding the knife at the girl. Darrel Miller, David Huff,
American heroes.
Happy birthday to our superstar Dee Emerson. Isn`t she beautiful? Loves LSU, her family and decorating for the holidays. Happy birthday moon pie.
And happy anniversary Wayne and Frances Sue Anthony, 45 years! He`s a Methodist minister, she is a practicing psychologist and mom, devoting
their lives to others. Happy anniversary.
Thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us. Nancy Grace, signing off. I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8 o`clock sharp, Easter. And
until then, good night friend.
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