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Prince Dead At 57; Ohio Execution-Style Murderers Still On The Run; President Obama's Final Leg Of Trip In London; Anti-Trump Forces Make New, Expensive Play To Stop GOP Frontrunner. Aired 3-4p ET

Aired April 23, 2016 - 15:00   ET

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[15:00:20] PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, you are in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Pamela Brown in for Poppy Harlow on this Saturday.

And we want to take you right to the growing memorial outside Paisley Park where fans have been gathering all day to celebrate the musical genius of Prince. The legendary artist who blended soaring guitars, funk and flamboyant dance moves. And as those tributes continue to pour in we're learning more about his final days. Official cause of death, though, could take weeks as authorities await the results of an autopsy. We know the singer's body has been released to his family.

And CNN Ryan Young joins us outside Paisley Park.

Ryan, set the scene for us.

RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I want to show you this. This is what we have been seeing constantly since the singer died. And if you look this direction, you see all the people who gathered here. They have been coming hour after hour here. In fact, we have been watching them come from across country. In fact, family members have been stopping and talking to the people who have standing here, thanking them for showing up. They delivered pizza at one point.

It seems like something is going on here today because we are seeing the most movement that we have seen over the last few days. In fact, our own Van Jones (INAUDIBLE) with the small group of people going toward the back gate. So we are not sure what kind of ceremony maybe going on here today, but we definitely have seen some friends and families.

But as you walk down this direction, you can see all the tributes that has have been paid, the balloons and the flowers. The artist actually drew this picture right here several days ago. A lot of people are coming to take a picture of that, but people sharing stories, talking about Prince. What he meant to this community and how much they loved him. We hear there was an all-night dance party that last until 7:00 this morning. People stepping out to show their love for the man who loved this community.

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AARON MEYERRING, CO-OWNER, ELECTRIC FETUS RECORD STORE: He seemed perfectly fine. I would have never in a million years predicted or guessed that he's under the weather nor in bad health or whatever, and -- it's still just, like -- surreal. You know?

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YOUNG: Pamela, that store owner had a lot of meetings with Prince. He would come and shop in the store all the time. So he said Prince looked fine. Even went to a party last Saturday and all that worked out was and he looked great. When you looked back and all these people who were gathered here.

Look. This goes on forever and they have had to shut down several streets to make sure people were come here and mourn in their own way. They are having conversations all along the line about how he has impacted their lives. This is multi-generational group with people all different races coming together and just standing here. At first they didn't want them close to the fence. But that's gone now. And family members actually standing close on the other side just having conversations with them. Just really good to hear. A lot of people said they have never seen anything like this, Pamela.

BROWN: Quite enough for them there. Thank you so much. Our Ryan Young.

And Prince was a notoriously private superstar. In fact, only a few people intimately knew the man behind that flamboyant on-stage persona. Offstage, Prince was soft spoken, a little bit shy and reclusive. And he fiercely guarded his privacy holding the world at arm's length putting up a thick wall between himself and the public.

My next guest got to know the real Prince. The gentle man behind the purple facade. I want to now bring in Prince's driver on the 2004 "Musicology" tour, Neville Shende.

Thank you for coming on. We appreciate it. And I was reading an interview you recently did and you said that Prince gave you strict instructions for handling certain things. How did you manage to break the ice with him?

NEVILLE SHENDE, PRINCE'S DRIVER ON 2004 MUSICOLOGY TOUR: Well, it was interesting when I -- I treated every tour the same, in the sense that I always start with a clean slate, and don't listen to, you know, negativities of, you can't do this. You can't do that. And I guess in a sense I could just tell you the story going in to picking him up at the Beverly Hills hotel in California. I arrived two hours early cleaning the bus, and was waiting for him. Let the tour, the security guard know that I was ready and had the bus positioned so it was lined up perfectly with the sidewalk and it would be an easy on and off for Prince. And while I was waiting, a gentleman dressed raggedly approached the bus and ask me who was on the bus. And I just looked at him and just -- continuing the story there, I always had an Elvis number one -- I'm a big Elvis fan. Elvis number one plate on the back of my bus and he approached from the year. And when he asked me that, I went, who is on the bus, man? I go, Elvis. And he goes, shoot, man. Elvis is dead. And then I went, shoot. No wonder I'm waiting so long. So I immediately got on the bus, locked the door, looked through the window just hoping he would go away and sure enough he looked around and then walked away. And 15 minutes later, I get a phone call. Prince is ready to come to the bus. So I got out. I opened the door. I see him come down the sidewalk with two security guards on either side, and the security guard to his right was actually the guy who was there with the ragged jeans and the t-shirt. And when he approached the door Prince immediately looked up and looked at me, and said, nice to meet you. And so that dispelled everything from there, and the security guard tapped me on the shoulder and say good job. Let's go. And the rest was pretty much history.

[15:05:45] BROWN: And from there, you had some really in-depth, philosophical conversations with Prince because you were on the road together for so many hours. Tell us about that.

SHENDE: Well, originally I was told I was just going to transport him to airports and he would fly, and the bus was more or less transportation to the venues from the hotel or from the airport, but I guess he felt comfortable with me, and the level of service that I was delivering. It didn't take very long. It was maybe a week into the tour, he started riding all the time. Even if it was a 500, 600 mile ride he would ride. And there is one time he was sitting up reading a magazine and we were in this little conversation and I asked him, I said, you know, originally when I was told, instructed on this tour, and said I was told I was just going to bring you to airports and, you know, drop you off and hardly ever see you, and I said, you ride all the time. And he explained to me why. It was basically because if he flew, he would land to the next city and he would get bombarded with whatever, parazzis or phone calls. This way he could have a solitude of peace for nine hours, and he would just use either my cell phone or the security guard's cell phone if he had to make a phone call, but it was his solitude on the road.

BROWN: Well, I'm sure it helped too, that you were always prepared, right? Whenever he needed anything, because you knew his favorite foods and what he liked on the road. Tell us about that.

SHENDE: Majorly. You know what? It's like anything. If want to do something well, research, and you know, really do your homework. And it's just like artist, preparation is key. And, yes. I used to -- he liked Jumba juice, not necessarily for a (INAUDIBLE). But he loved Jumba juice and vegetarian restaurants and I would always every city would plug it into my GPS, the closest one just in case he would ask. So that anytime he would come up, I could have a quick answer. It's a mile and a half away. You want to go? Yes. OK. Boom. Boom. Here we go. So that preparation, all of the little things, I think, added up to why I had such a good and strong relationship with Prince.

BROWN: And I also think when I learned about the tip he gave you, it was pretty amazing. Right?

SHENDE: Yes. That was a funny little conversation we had on the bus. We were talking about, you know, things that you liked to do for peace and solitude and Zen, and I brought up a story that I had a Harley and I met my wife and we sold it, you know, for the wedding money and that. I was told, oh, you'll get one again. And it has been five years, I wasn't even close. And at the end of the tour, needless to say, I was able to have a nice purple Harley sportster and it was awesome. I mean -- that's the big thing I want to say about Prince is, he was definitely demanding. It's almost like a coach. Coach a good coach can elevate their players, whether it's a musician or a driver or a personal assistant to the highest level that they can perform, and Prince was a master at doing that. But the big key was, he was appreciative and he showed it. And he was always courteous to me. And you know, he would come up and pat me on the shoulder and say, hey, I just want you to know you're doing a good job. And that's huge, you know. That's huge. Because I've been with some other artists that weren't even as high of a caliber of that, and that respect wasn't really at that level. And, you know, that's why it was really a shock. I actually thought it was a hoax at first in the morning when I was awoken and told about it, but then obviously, it wasn't.

BROWN: Yes. A shock to so many people, and it's still sort of settling in as we saw the outpouring there in Minnesota and talking to people like you. You know, no matter if you knew him or not, clearly he left an indelible mark.

Thank you very much, Neville Shende. Thank you.

And coming up a crime, Ohio Governor John Kasich is calling tragic beyond comprehension. Eight members of one family shot execution- style while they slept including a mother killed right next to her baby. We head to Ohio for an exclusive interview with their stunned pastor.

Plus, an anti-Trump pact shells out six figures going into next Tuesday's Super Tuesday contest. Is it too late to stop the billionaire front-runner?

And it was his studio, his home, his haven, our look inside Prince's Paisley Park estate.

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[15:13:31] BROWN: A killer or killers still on the run in Ohio. That's while a family is in mourning believing their lives are still in danger. Eight family members murdered execution-style, three children including a 4-day-old baby witnessed but survived the killings. The gruesome murders has shaken up this whole township of Piketon, population about 2000 people. And authorities right now are (INAUDIBLE) searching for anyone responsible.

Our Nick Valencia joins me now from Piketon.

And Nick, I understand you were able to talk to the family's pastor. What does this pastor have to say about this?

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Pamela, you could just see the pain in his eyes when we spoke to him at his home. He has really shaken by this. About 100 friends and family of the victims have turned to the pastor Phil Fulton for support, but you can tell this has really shaken him as well. Perhaps the most disturbing detail throughout all of this is that mother that you mentioned who just four days before had given birth to a baby. She was sleeping next to when she was murdered. The pastor Phil Fulton caught up with me and told me how this affected him and the community around him.

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PASTOR PHIL FULTON, UNION HILLS CHURCH: I think the most disturbing detail in all of this was one of the victim's was killed next to her four-day-old baby. You know, that is heartless. I cannot believe how anyone could kill another with her four-day-old baby in her arms. That's out of my realm of thinking that anyone could do that. How heartless. How hard hearted, and I think how could a person with any heart at all do something like this? And it's unimaginable to me. I just -- that's hard for me to grasp.

VALENCIA: What bothers you? What has been on your mind? What kept you up last night?

FULTON: Thinking about the families. Most of all, you know, you come home, you try to relax a little bit, but it keeps going over and over in your mind. I knew these folks. These folks it was trying to work. Dana had worked the night before. Got off at -- I believe she got off at 11:00. Come home. Expected to, you know, relax probably a little while and then go to bed. And I think she came home thinking she would go to bed and rest, get up the next morning. And for people to be stalking them or be there taking -- wanting to take their life and they did. And I'm thinking, what else will happen in our community? What's going on? What -- what can we do? And in my mind I'm thinking, how can I better minister to these folks? Reach out to the families that is left, the mom, the dad, and the siblings. Nieces and nephews that is weeping and crying, and just wondering why?

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VALENCIA: It is within the last hour that the attorney general's office is now announced a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or people involved. That money being put up by a local area businessman who doesn't know the family but felt compelled just by the sheer ruthlessness of this attack to put that money up.

Also, Pamela, one quick note, a short time ago, got 911 audio of the day that this happened Friday morning. We will be playing some of that for you at 5:00 p.m. eastern - Pamela.

BROWN: All right. Nick Valencia, we will talking again soon. We appreciate it.

And coming up on this Saturday, President Obama's long good-bye.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: When you're in the job, you're not thinking on a day-to-day basis about your legacy. You're thinking about, how do I get done what I'm trying to get done right now. (END VIDEO CLIP)

BROWN: So what he has to say about his unfinished work, and his message for members of the black lives movement.

We'll be back. Stay with us.

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[15:21:21] BROWN: Well, tensions on the Korean peninsula are reaching a new level. That after the north reportedly fired a submarine launched ballistic missile. Officials in South Korea say the missile flew about 19 miles before dropping into the sea. For it to be considered a true threat, the missile needed to reach 185 miles. Still, one U.S. official said they are watching it very closely, and quote "North Korea's sub launch capability has gone from a joke to something very serious."

And meantime, President Obama's final trip in London looks and feels a lot like a good-bye tour. So it was appropriate that the president took time to reflect on his legacy earlier today. Speaking to about 500 young people in a town hall, the president touted what he views as his best work. Obamacare, and preventing and economic depression.

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OBAMA: I'll look at a score card at the end. I think that I have been true to myself during this process. You know, I don't -- sometimes I look back at what I said, when I was running for office, and what I'm saying today, and they match up.

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BROWN: Let's bring in CNN correspondent Athena Jones who joins me now.

So Athena, the president did point out some areas he feels like still needs some work before he leaves office, right? What did he say?

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Pamela. That's right. He did -- most interesting about the town hall, we know the president really likes doing them. It gives him a chance to speak frankly with a big audience, full of young audience. He does these events in many of the places he stops in on his international trips when he can, usually at least one per trip. He says these young people inspire him and he has able to talk frankly sometimes about issues that wouldn't come up at a formal press conference like the one he had yesterday with prime minister David Cameron. Today he talked frankly about issues like prejudice and discrimination that still needed where the fight is not over. Take a listen to some of what he had to say.

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OBAMA: There's still discrimination an in aspects of American life even with a black president. And, in fact, one of the dangers has been by electing a black president, people have then said, well, there must be no problems at all, an obviously, you see Ferguson and some of the issues we've seen in the criminal justice system indicating the degree to which that was always false. So does that mean that all the work that was done along the way was worthless? Of course not.

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JONES: And so his argument is that change takes time and hard work and not just when it comes to discrimination or prejudice but also things like poverty and climate change. It was really interesting moment in today's event, Pamela.

BROWN: I can't let you go without talk be about the most adorable photos ever. Some have seen this online. The 2-year-old Prince George meeting President Obama while wearing a white robe. Must have been past his bedtime, right?

JONES: It was past his bedtime. According to the spokesperson for Will and Kate, the duke and Cambridge. Prince George was allowed to stay up 15 minutes past his bedtime in order to meet the president of the United States. So a really cute moment that was captured with those pictures, and he may have inspired others, maybe some future, I don't know, Halloween costumes.

BROWN: I would think so. Special occasion there.

Athena Jones, thank you so much for that.

And coming up, anti-Trump forces make a new and expensive play to stop the Republican front-runner. That's as Donald Trump responds to criticism of his changing tone.

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[15:25:04] DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So Cruz picks it up, lying Ted. He goes, Donald Trump is kidding everybody. He is different on the trail. He said -- and he said that he's going to do things differently, and he's not going to build the wall. What the hell does this have to do with the wall? Believe me, I'm building the wall.

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[15:28:25] TRUMP: And now we're down to two. I call it one and a half. I now actually call it one, because I call it a half and a half, because they are both out. It's one.

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BROWN: Donald Trump rationing up attacks against Ted Cruz and John Kasich in Connecticut today. One of the states voting in the next rounds of the super Tuesday contest just a few days away. And his appearance follows a revealing new audiotape of which you can clearly hear Trump's top advisor Paul Manafort telling the RNC Trump's off the cup on massive personality is all a performance, not who he is in private.

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PAUL MANAFORT, TRUMP'S CONVENTION MANAGER: Trump is an outsider, maybe you don't know. So he is sitting in a room he is talking business, he is talking politics, in a private room, it's a different persona. When he's out on the stage, he is talking about the kinds of things he's talking about himself, he's projecting an image that's for that purpose. The part he has been playing is evolving into the part you now then expect but he wasn't ready for.

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BROWN: So let's bring in our CNN political commentators Jeffrey Lord, a Trump supporter and former Reagan White House political director, Ryan Lizza, Washington correspondent for the "New Yorker," and Marc Lamont Hill, a professor of Morehouse College and a proud Democrat. Thanks for coming on, to the three of you gentlemen.

Jeffrey, to you first. So Donald Trump, he scored a lot of points representing himself as sincere, not beholden to political speak, are you concerned that this tape might raise doubts in the minds of supporters who may now question his authenticity thinking, is this all a performance?

[15:30:03] JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Not only -- not only am I not concerned I am just really amazed at the -- I think this is a non-story. I worked for Ronald Reagan. I assure you I never heard him in private conversations yelling, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall and I'm willing to take advantage on Kennedy didn't wake up in the morning and say to Jacque and say, and so my fellow Americans, ask not - I mean, everybody has a different persona when they are in public than they are in private. I bet you do too, Pam. I don't see anything news about this whatsoever.

BROWN: OK. But Donald Trump, I mean, so much of his appeal is his sort of bombastic, flamboyant personality.

LORD: That's his public style. Sure. That's a public style just as campaign a public style or Ronald Reagan had a public style or I would say Barack Obama has a public style.

BROWN: OK, Marc, to his point, though, aren't politicians always trying to project a certain image? You know, Paul Manafort said that exact quote. He's projecting an image, but aren't they all?

MARC LAMONT HILL, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Absolutely. Just for the record, I'm not a proud Democrat, a proud leftist. I'm not a member of the Democratic Party.

BROWN: OK. Thanks for clarifying.

LORD: Point taken. HILL: But, no. I do think very much so that everyone has a public

and private persona. The examples Jeffrey gives are a little unfair, though. It's not about his speaking style, it is not about whether or not he gives an, a sermonly speech in private. It is whether or not the ideas, the tone, the tenor, the ideology that he expresses in public is actually who she in private. And many people have wondered privately whether the person Donald Trump is in public and who is appealing to is actually what he thinks in real life. Many people on the right are saying, wait a minute, maybe he's not at extreme, maybe a liberal or moderate positioning himself pretending to be someone on the extreme right. That's what people are actually concerned with. And I hope Donald Trump isn't who he is in public because who he is in public, I find that be very troublesome. But I also find troublesome if there is a candidate who pretends to be one thing and does something e entirely differ because that means you can't trust him, you can't (INAUDIBLE) and there's no way to hold him accountable.

BROWN: OK, Ryan, I want to play you something also on that note that Trump said at that rally about why he is doing so well in this race. Let's listen to that.

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TRUMP: If I acted presidential, I guarantee you that this morning I wouldn't be here. And -- somebody else would be here. Not in a big room like this. Somebody else would be here and you'd be in a conference room, and they'd be talking to you.

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BROWN: So Trump admitting there he is not acting presidential and that it works for him. So how does a potentially new Trump with teleprompters and speechwriters maintain his appeal with the basic he is still up, Ryan?

RYAN LIZZA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I was at that meeting on Thursday in Hollywood, Florida, where Manafort spoke and I was outside the meeting with a lot of other reporters. And as soon as it was over, they let the press in, and we interviewed, I and another journalist, interviewed the delegates and the RNC members, to get a readout on what they thought of Manafort's presentation. And I'll tell you, the reason that this leaked, the reason that the recording went out, I mean, I had a delegate give me a copy of the recording, someone else gave one to the "Washington Post," someone gave one to the CNN. Because these delegates thought, this is why the Trump campaign, speaking out of both sides of its mouth.

So to Jeffrey's point, I do think that this is the issue is Manafort went down to Florida to woo the delegates, to explain, this is who Donald Trump is. A lot of the -- not all of them. There is obviously there's divided opinion. A lot of the RNC members were saying, wait a second. He is out there attacking the RNC, saying the system is rigged. Well, we're the system. The RNC members say. How can he do both? So I think that's where he gets into a little trouble here.

I agree with Jeffrey. Every politician has a public and private persona. But he is doing a very kind of complicated dance where he has got inside game where Manafort is trying to woo delegates say it's an act and then an outside game where he is saying the delegates and RNC members of rigging the system against him.

I will tell you. I spent two days in Hollywood, Florida talking to those RNC members and delegates, they are very skeptical of that. And it is going to take a lot more than the Manafort presentation to win them over.

BROWN: So Jeffrey -- go ahead, and then I want to get Jeffrey the response after you're done, Ryan.

LIZZA: Final point, but I think, you know, Trump -- I would be interested to hear what Jeffrey thinks about this. Trump talked about changing, pivoting to the general election, being more presidential, using teleprompters. He has been talking about that for months. We haven't seen it yet. So, you know, it will be interesting to see when he starts that process.

HILL: We saw him during the AIPAC speech, actually. We saw him used teleprompter and have a much more organized and scripted narrative than when he goes off the cover at debates or rallies.

LORD: He has a speech coming I believe Wednesday on foreign policy at the Washington press club. Along the lines of the AIPAC speech in terms of presentation.

[15:35:05] BROWN: So I just want you to respond to what Ryan said, Jeff, that basically that the Trump campaign is being sort of two- sided, that they are trying to have it both ways. What's your response to that notion?

LORD: Yes, I mean, that's --

LIZZA: And that was from me. That's what I was reporting from the delegates down there in Hollywood, Florida at the RNC meeting.

LORD: I get you totally. I mean, once upon a time in my career I spent a lot of time with RNC members. And you know, great people but they are very much the Republican establishment. There is no question about it. I'm sure that they don't like hearing some of the things they've been hearing from Donald Trump for that matter. I'm sure they are not thrilled with Ted Cruz either. So I'm not really surprised at that.

On the other hand, Donald Trump was right here in Harrisburg on I guess it was Thursday night. I was there. At the farm show complex here in Harrisburg: there were 10,000 people there, because of my CNN appearances I was fairly recognizable and a lot of people came up and talked to me. Those are the people who are going to vote in the Pennsylvania primary. Those are exactly the kind of people you want. Not RNC members with all due respect.

BROWN: All right. Jeffrey Lord, Ryan Lizza, Marc Lamont Hill, thank you so much.

And Jeffrey, happy to hear CNN's raise your profile there. All right.

All right. And moving right along, CNN will have all-day coverage of Super Tuesday of four with the results of primaries in five states. That's Tuesday right here on CNN.

And coming up on this Saturday inside Paisley Park, Prince's mysterious compound. The architect of that building talks to us about a secret vault inside. So what's in there? We'll tell you.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Living in Minneapolis of all places.

PRINCE, SINGER: Minneapolis. Yes. I will always live in Minneapolis.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You will always live there. Why?

PRINCE: It's so cold it keeps the bad people out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe that. Do you like, go to the mall?

PRINCE: Last time I went to the mall I took about 400 people out that much anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You don't do that.

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[15:40:50] BROWN: Well, police investigating the sudden death of Prince say it could be days even weeks before they get the autopsy results back. But what we do know, the singer was alone when he died, hidden away as he so often was in his colossal compound and studio. It is the same place he hosted one of his famous fan party just a few days earlier.

CNN's Jean Casarez has an inside look at his safe haven and home, Paisley Park.

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JANE CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): From the outside, Paisley Park looks like any large commercial building, but inside, the creative genius and mysterious side of music icon Prince is on full display.

BRET THOENY, PAISLEY PARK ARCHITECT: Prince wanted to have a place where he could do all of his music, and make films, and do his tour rehearsals, and do dance, choreography and everything under one roof, which is back 25 years ago was quite progressive.

CASAREZ: Designed by Los Angeles architect Bret Thoeny, the $10 million, 65,000 square-foot complex is a curiosity to many. Thoeny says it took the better part of three year from inception to completion in 1987. Walking through the front door transcends into Prince's reality.

THOENY: When you come to Paisley Park you come through the lobby with the pyramid, the two story over your head and as I recall it is cold in Minnesota. So you have another set of doors that you go through and then you get warm.

CASAREZ: The first floor houses production facilities including state of the art recording studios, a sound stage and massive rehearsal hall. Prince wanted no windows in the down stairs performance areas creating a timeless environment where he could work without knowing when night became day. The second floor designed with windows includes executive offices as well as Prince's personal haven.

THOENY: A portion of it could be like a stay-over where if he was in the studio late, which he always was, he could just crash for few hours and get back into the studio.

CASAREZ: And as for a secret vault in the building, yes, there is. Prince requested one.

THOENY: We did a vault for Prince. He wanted a place to keep his master recordings but at the time, it was very important to keep this a secret.

CASAREZ: He wasn't just secretive about the vault but about the entire property. A longtime friend of Prince tells CNN he didn't like people taking pictures inside. Prince named his complex Paisley Park, Thoeny says after his love of print design and a song he recorded by the same name released in 1985.

Thoeny says he will never forget despite his fear of heights Prince bringing him up on the massive roofer to see the view.

THOENY: You can see the lakes and you can see the landscape and it was just a moment that was important for him to go up there.

CASAREZ: Jean Casarez, CNN, New York.

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BROWN: And joining me now, Frank Pallotta a media reporter for "CNN Money."

Frank, thanks for coming on. So Prince sold 100 million albums during this career. But his closest friends and producers say some of his best music is just sitting dormant inside that secret vault at Paisley Park. What do we know about that music and what happens to it?

FRANK PALLOTTA, CNN MONEY MEDIA REPORTER: Well, look at it this way. There's reports out there that 70 percent of Prince's music has been unreleased, just show you how prolific of an artist he was. In terms of this vault with unreleased music, no one really is sure what's going to happen. He is kind of, the state is kind of up in the air. It is almost as mysterious as Prince was when he was alive. He had no, has no wife, he has no children. He had multiple business managers over the year. So we are not exactly sure what happened to the vault and most importantly what happens to his estate.

BROWN: Right. Those are still the big sort of looming questions here. But you said 70 percent of his music hasn't been released. I mean, why is that? And do we know if he ever wanted these songs to be released?

PALLOTTA: Well, in 2012, he actually said he was going to burn down the entire vault. That never wanted anyone to hear the music. But then in 2013, he went the other way saying he was going to release it and he never did. A lot of his music, just incredibly prolific. He loved making music to the point of that was one of the big problems in the early '90s in which why he turned himself into a symbol, was that his label Warner Brothers was kind of slowing down, not (INAUDIBLE) the market so much with his music. But he kept making music and I guess he just got putting it in that secret vault.

[15:45:22] BROWN: Amazing. So many people want to get into that vault and listen to that music. We will have to wait and hear what happens with that.

On another note we are also hearing that "Purple Rain" is returning into theaters. What can you tell us about that?

PALLOTTA: Returning to about 80 AMC theaters across the country including Atlanta, Los Angeles, New York, all over the place, and it's to really honor him and this great movie he made. This great cult classic that made nearly $70 million and won him an academy award. People forget that. He sold multi, multiplatinum albums but he was also an Oscar winner and he made this really fun movie that was tied to one of the greatest albums ever made back in 1984.

BROWN: And you have mentioned earlier because the big question is what's going to happen to the estate? Royalties from this music? Are there any indication of who might be on the receiving end? We know he has a sister, right, who visited the estate. Anyone speaking out about this?

PALLOTTA: Well, he had multiple brothers and sisters but we don't really know how close they are to one another. We don't really know yet what's going to happen to the estate. This is going to be one of the big upcoming stories in the coming weeks to see what happens. And this has happened before with other musicians that when they die suddenly everything gets very murky. But hopefully we'll figure this out so that we can listen to some unreleased Prince tracks for the next century even.

BROWN: That would be pretty cool. Frank Pallotta. Thank you very much for that.

And coming up, Prince's arts seen in his outfits just as much as his music from his penchant purple, the high heels and feather bow as we take a look back at how he became a style icon.

But first, I want you to meet an 86-year-old farmer in North Carolina. He was anything but retired. For 20 years, Harry Swimmer has introduced hundreds of children with disabilities to the healing power of horses.

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HARRY SWIMMER, CNN HERO: Horses are very special animals. People just don't realize it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you say now?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Walk on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's my girl.

SWIMMER: We had a child on a horse who had a seizure, and that horse stopped dead in his tracks. When nobody else noticed it, the horse caught it first.

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BROWN: OK. Harry Swimmer is this week's CNN hero. And you can watch his full story at CNNheroes.com. And of course while there, just nominate someone who you think deserves to be a 2016 CNN hero.

We'll be right back.

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[15:51:41] BROWN: Welcome back. We are taking a live look here at Paisley Park in Minnesota. This is the place Prince called home. People have been gathered outside paying tribute with their purple balloons and purple outfits.

And speaking of outfits, from the hair on his head to the heels on his feet, Prince certainly knew how to put on a look. As easily as he could write a hit song. And as the decades changed, so did his fashion choices.

Randi Kaye shows us the many looks of Prince.

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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On the cover of his self- titled album in 1979, Prince appeared bare chested with big loose hair. But that look didn't last long. In 1980 with the release of his album "dirty mind" he donned skimpy briefs and little else.

Soon he jumped on this early '80s trend, a Victorian inspired look which included pattern silk wooden with color and countless ruffled blouses. The tighter the pants and the deeper the neckline, the better.

MICHAELA ANGELA DAVIS, PRINCE'S FORMER STYLIST: He was one of those people where you can't nail down his style because he kept changing and kept moving. It was lace one day and tunics another.

KAYE: By the time of his sixth album, "purple Rain" was released in June 1984, Prince had hit his purple fate. He often paired up with low cut ruffled blouses, lots of lace some and crazy patterns. The purple one as he was often called lived up to that nickname purple rain. And when he wasn't in purple around that same time. He was likely in lace, head-to-toe lace suit. High collared lace shirts and sometimes even lace gloves.

By the time 1991 came along, Prince's new favorite color, seemed to be yellow. Yellow guitars, yellow valero jackets, yellow jump suits. Who could forget this one from his 1991 hit, get off? This rather revealing yellow jump suit was perhaps one of his most outrageous outfits.

DAVIS: He took a lot of fashion risks like his butt cheeks were out. We saw that, you know. And then even at the super bowl, he had a do rag.

KAYE: More often than not, Prince liked to stick to one color. Here at the 1999 MTV video music awards, it was electric blue, head to toe. Years later at the People's choice awards it was all white, even white heels. The singer reportedly favored Cuban heels because women liked them.

DAVIS: All his shoes were almost all of them were covered in the same fabric as his trousers. So it was a seamless line to make him seem taller. But he could do some things in those shoes.

KAYE: Prince also used fashion to make a statement. In 1993, Prince dropped his own name and started going by a symbol which combined the male and female signs. The statement about gender carried over to his stage costumes and even his guitar which was also shaped like the symbol.

He had more conservative looks, too, gangster style pinstripe suits (INAUDIBLE), power suits too, like this red hot one he wore to the 2008 Grammy awards. He also later discovered gold and lots of it. He wore gold sequins head to toe at this Madison square garden concert in 2011. And more gold at the 2015 American music awards.

"Vogue" magazine once wrote about the singer when it comes to merging music and fashion, creating a mystique through style, nobody does it better than the ever-elusive Prince. That held true to the day he died.

Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.

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[15:55:25] BROWN: And in the wake of Prince's death, we are learning more about how he lived. The many charities and causes he supported secretly and we'll talk to a man who worked with Prince, the philanthropist.

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[15:59:41] BROWN: And you're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Pamela Brown in for Poppy Harlow on this Saturday afternoon. We're just three days away from Super Tuesday. That's when five more

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