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George W. Bush on Campaign Trail for Jeb; Trump, Cruz Fight Heats Up; Clinton Finds New Way to Hit Sanders; Medical Facilities, Schools Hit in Attack in Syria; World Food Program Ramps Up Relief in Syria; Battle over Supreme Court Seat Heats Up; Australian Immigration Policy in Spotlight over 1-Year Old; Grammys Hosted Tributes. Aired 2- 3a ET

Aired February 16, 2016 - 02:00   ET

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[02:00:33] ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, and welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church. This is CNN NEWSROOM.

Call it family values. Former U.S. President George W. Bush is campaigning on behalf of his brother, Jeb. He traveled around South Carolina on Monday, firing out support ahead of Saturday's primary there. This is his first step back into politics since he left in 2008. And while he brother, Jeb, touted his own experience and values, the former president took some veiled swipes at Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

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JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If you're tired of the politics of division, if you want someone with a proven record, a solid conservative, who acted on his conservative beliefs as governor, someone with 32 years of private sector experience, you're looking at the nominee for the Republican nomination. And I can beat Hillary Clinton. I can promise you that.

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GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: -- deep and humbling faith that reveals itself through good works, not loud words. He will rise above the petty name-calling. And once elected, he will not need a poll or focus group, to tell him how to think or what to do.

There seems to be a lot of name-calling going on. But I want to remind you what our good dad told me one time. Labels are for soup cans.

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The presidency is a serious job that requires sound judgment and good ideas. Strength is not empty rhetoric. It is not bluster. It is not

theatrics. Real strength, strength of purpose, comes from integrity and character.

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CHURCH: Earlier, a panel of veterans political operates and journalists weighed in on the former president's support for his brother. And here's what they said.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: George W. Bush has been sadly -- sorely missed by the party. I think this gives his brother a big boost. I don't know what the downside is. He has to deal with the fact he's a Bush already. He has to deal with those critics already. And now, getting some of the positive. He's going to get crowds and excitement and people that are reminded that George Bush kept us safe and George Bush had security policies that are good for the country. That's a win for Jeb.

DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: The question is, can George W., along -- especially George W., give him a jolt. Get him up to third. If he does that, it's been a success.

JAMIE GANGEL, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: The speech we saw Jeb give today was the best speech he's given on the campaign trail. Will there be traction now? Is there enough time between now and Saturday? I will predict this. Common sense dictates that I believe every day this week, going into Saturday, the Bush campaign has something planned to try to deep this moment going.

And the fact that George W. Bush took so many not-so-veiled swipes at Donald Trump in that speech, and did it the way Jeb Bush did it, overtly, you don't want somebody who is blustered. You don't want somebody who is inflaming ting the frustrations of Americans, is a reminder in words and symbolism, we know how to do this. We're Bushes. We get it. I know this other guy sounds enticing and interesting, this is who we are, to come back home is what he was saying.

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CHURCH: Meanwhile, there is another Republican battle going on in South Carolina. Donald Trump and Ted Cruz have been hitting each other hard.

CNN's Sunlen Serfaty has more on the down and dirty fight among the top tier Republicans. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think Ted's a very unstable guy.

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump on an all-out tear against Ted Cruz -- TRUMP: As I said, he's the single-worst liar I've ever seen.

[02:05:16] SERFATY: The GOP front runner calling Cruz a basket case, who is lying to voters about his record.

TRUMP: He comes out, and boom, boom, boom, lies.

SERFATY: And today, he delivered this ominous warning, back off and apologize or be hit with a lawsuit over your eligibility to be president.

TRUMP: Keep your lies going. You're going to get sued. You're going to get sued any way. Might as well keep your lies going.

SERFATY: Cruz, today, not backing down.

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're not in grade school where you just get to say liar, liar, pants on fire, and not respond to the substance.

SERFATY: Arguing that Trump is just rattled.

CRUZ: I guess the only explanation one can have is his personal poll numbers in South Carolina must be plummeting, following that debate.

SERFATY: Attacking Trump's readiness to be president.

CRUZ: Who has the temperament to be calm under pressure? When Marco Rubio and Donald Trump screams liar, liar, liar, how they would handle Putin.

SERFATY: Trump's fire comes in response to Cruz's closing message in South Carolina, that at its core, seeks to paint Trump as a closet liberal.

CRUZ: A candidate who spent 60 year of his life being pro-choice is not a candidate you can trust to appoint principled constitutionalists to the U.S. Supreme Court.

SERFATY: Echoed all over the airwaves in blunt ads.

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ANNOUNCER: South Carolina cannot trust Donald Trump.

TRUMP: I'm capable of changing anything I want to change to.

ANNOUNCER: Don't give him that chance.

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SERFATY: The sharp, nasty turn comes as the rhetoric from Trump has been dialed up.

TRUMP: They lied.

SERFATY: Centered on using an almost taboo four-letter word in politics, the "L" word.

TRUMP: You are the single-biggest liar. You're willing to lie about anything. And then, you hold up a bible. To me, it's no good.

SERFATY: As his rivals punch right now, voters in South Carolina are paying attention, too.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't understand the UFC attitude he has as a candidate. It's unbecoming of the president.

SERFATY (voice-over): This is speaking to how fierce of a battle it is between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. The Cruz campaign will continue to hammer in on that point, like in that new TV ad that will debut here in South Carolina, painting Donald Trump as a phony conservative. They'll argue because of that he can't be trusted with votes.

Sunlen Serfaty, CNN, Aiken, South Carolina.

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CHURCH: On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton has found a new way to go after Bernie Sanders.

CNN's Washington correspondent, Jeff Zeleny, has more on her latest tactic and Sanders' response.

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JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hillary Clinton has three words for Bernie Sanders.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm not a single-issue candidate.

I am not a single-issue candidate.

I am not a single-issue candidate.

ZELENY: A single-issue candidate, that's how Clinton is trying to brand Sanders, hoping to slow his surge before voting begins in Nevada and South Carolina.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going to surprise a lot of people in Nevada.

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ZELENY: Sanders still riding momentum from his commanding win in New Hampshire. Prompting Clinton to go back to the drawing board. At every stop, Clinton is telling voters Sanders is focused on Wall Street and Wall Street alone. Her campaign made a video to drive home the point.

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SANDERS: The disastrous and illegal behavior on Wall Street. (END VIDEO CLIP)

ZELENY: But Sanders is exceeding even his own expectations.

SANDERS: The idea I am a single-issue candidate in the only major nation that doesn't guarantee health care for all people. We have to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. Not one issue.

ZELENY: One issue that they agreed on today, the Senate should consider President Obama's nominee to fill Justice Antonin Scalia's vacancy on the Supreme Court.

CLINTON: The only reason to block this is partisanship.

SANDERS: Do not obstruct. Obey the Constitution.

(CHEERING) ZELENY: As the fight intensifies, Clinton is trying to regain her confidence, by showing Democrats she is the well-rounded candidate in the race.

CLINTON: Not everything is about an economic theory. Right? If we broke up the big banks tomorrow -- and I will, if they deserve it. If they pose a systemic risk, I will. Would that end racism?

ZELENY: Their fight, a subject of humor on "Saturday Night Live" --

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UNIDENTIFIED COMEDIAN: I love Bernie's vibe.

UNIDENTIFIED COMEDIAN: I'm obsessed with his vibe.

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ZELENY: The Democratic race is heated, but the Republican contest is explosive. Former President Bill Clinton experienced that first hand today, campaign in Florida, when he came face-to-face with a Donald Trump supporter.

[02:10:14] UNIDENTIFIED TRUMP SUPPORTER: You took his money.

BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I certainly did. And I certainly did. And I took his money for my foundation, where I used it better than he's using it now, I guarantee you.

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ZELENY (on camera): Bill Clinton is campaigning almost full-time for his wife. Chelsea Clinton now campaigning, too. It's a full-time family affair here. But with the final week and a half between the South Carolina primary and Nevada first, they are trying to turn around the dynamic of this campaign. But Bernie Sanders is out in full force. He will be campaigning in South Carolina on Tuesday. Jeff Zeleny, CNN, Columbia, South Carolina.

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CHURCH: White House sources say the Obama administration is already putting together its short list of potential nominees to replace the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Republicans in the Senate are vowing to block any candidate. They want the next president to pick Scalia's successor. And the issue has become a prime focus of the Republican presidential candidates.

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CRUZ: You know in the last 80 years, we have not once has the Senate confirmed a nomination made in an election year. And now is no year to start.

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BUSH: That's his prerogative. He has every right to do it. And the Senate has every right not to confirm that person.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: That vacancy will have to be filled. And it will be filled by the next president.

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RUBIO: Not by this one.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA (voice-over): I believe we should wait until after the next election and let the American people pick the next president and we should consider who the next president of the United States nominates.

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CHURCH: The White House says the comments from Republicans are just a lot of bluster. See how else they're pushing back in a battle over the Supreme Court, in our next half hour of CNN NEWSROOM.

And an agreement of ceasing hostilities end in Syria is in question, as hospitals and schools are targeted in the north. Coming up, the devastating civilian targets.

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[02:16:18] CHURCH: Turkey is calling Monday's air strikes in Syria an obvious war crime. The U.N. says the attacks were a blatant violation of international law.

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CHURCH: Dozens of people were killed and injured and bombs hit medical facilities and two schools in Aleppo and Idlib.

Lynda Kinkade has details.

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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Rescuers scramble to find the alive under the rubble, rushing to take the injured to safety. It's unclear where the injured will be taken. This hospital, supported by Doctors Without Borders, was hit four times in two separate air strikes.

The attack, which took place in northern Syria's Idlib Province, left several people dead.

In an exclusive interviewer, a surgeon from the hospital said he was on his way to work and was about 300 meters away from the hospital when he saw two missiles coming from planes hit the building. The hospital had over 50 staff members, two operating rooms and outpatient department and an emergency room.

Now, the 40,000 local residents are left without any access to medical services.

The president of MSF says the organization is helpless against these attacks. But it won't stop their mission.

UNIDENTIFIED MSF PRESIDENT: Unfortunately, it's not the first time, since early January 2016. Five structures, medal structures supported by my organization, have been bombed in Syria, in Idlib, in Aleppo, and in the south.

KINKADE: In a separate attack, the Women and Children's hospital was also hit. The head administrator showed CNN inside the operating room, where they pulled at least six infants to safety, after rubble fell on them.

It's believed a surface-to-surface missile struck near the hospital's entrance, leaving a dozen people dead. It's not immediately clear who is responsible for ether of these attacks.

Lynda Kinkade, CNN.

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CHURCH: The U.S. is blaming the Syrian regime for the attack on a hospital. U.S. National Security Advisor Susan Rice condemned the bombing in northern Syria in the strongest terms. She said it runs counter to the commitments to a cessation of hostilities that was agreed upon in Munich. That agreement is due to take effect at the end of this week.

The Syrian government has not issued a statement about the air strikes, but Turkey's prime minister blames Russia.

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AHMET DAVUTOGLU, TURKISH PRIME MINISTER (through translation): While we're having these meetings, Russia hit the school and hospital with a ballistic missile from the Caspian Sea and many children and civilians lost their lives.

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CHURCH: So far, there's been no official response from Russia.

The humanitarian need remains urgent. Most parties have agreed to allow aid to come into besieged area. ISIS has not. The U.N. is considering air drops of food and medical supplies.

Fred Pleitgen visited a U.N. distribution center out of Damascus, where the World Food Program is ramping up its relief effort.

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FRED PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These images shocked the world, people starving in the besieged Syrian town of Madaya. Aide groups say dozens have succumb to hunger in the winter months.

UNIDENTIFIED AID WORKER: This child is ill. He gets sick in his stomach his. Stomach is hurting. He needs to go to hospital outside.

[02:20:14] PLEITGEN: World powers have started an urgent push to get aide to those most in need.

At this U.N. distribution center outside Damascus, the World Food Program is gearing up to escalate its relief effort.

Hassam Alsali (ph) shows me the facility.

HASSAM ALSALI (ph), AIDE WORKER: We get them in larger quantities and we package it into small, individual portions. Each portion is enough to feed five people for one month.

PLEITGEN: While the World Food Program is working to get the aid ready, many of the warring parties in Syria are not allowing relief goods to be delivered. The U.N. has accused the Syrian government, many rebel groups, and ISIS, using the denial of food and medicine as a weapon.

(on camera): The World Food Program says it could get to places quickly if allowed.

(voice-over): Workers are stacking boxes into trucks.

(on camera): Once this vehicle is filled, the folks are going to seal it, which makes it easier to get through checkpoints. And the World Food Program tells us they have many trucks like this one, loaded, ready to go and are just waiting for permission. (EXPLOSION)

PLEITGEN (voice-over): Most of the parties involved in the fighting here, have agreed in principle to allow aid to besieged areas. ISIS has not. Syrian and Russian military aircraft have dropped some food and medical supplies. And soon, the U.N. wants to do the same.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is plans to -- do a drop and hopefully we'll soon manage to do an air drop to access them.

PLEITGEN: The World Food Program is still waiting to get the green light to enter many besieged areas. Until that permission comes, all they can do is keep packing the goods, ready to move when they can.

Fred Pleitgen, CNN, Syria.

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CHURCH: Four Americans are under arrest in Bahrain. Bahrain, officials say the four entered the country under false pretenses and participated in attacks by police. They say several of the Americans are members of the international media, but pretended they were tourists. One, who has done freelance work for CNN in the past, was identified by her family as one of those arrested. The other three have not been named.

Summer-like temperatures are shattering records across parts of California.

Our Meteorologist Pedram Javaheri is here to tell us that we can enjoy these temperatures.

Can we?

PEDRAM JAVAHERI, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It looks like east is going to get warmth. You expect it to be wet. And it has not been wet across southern California. It hasn't rained in two weeks. This is a temperatures across the southwestern corner of the United States, at this hour. 11:00 hour across parts of California. I'm 70 degrees in Los Angeles. That's roughly what it should be in these afternoon hours. Shows the mild temperatures in place. We're talking about 32, 31 Celsius. Los Angeles, record temperature at 89 degrees. Even San Francisco is in teens. That's 25 degrees Celsius. Record heat in Yuma, and in flagstaff. In phoenix, a 91 is forecast. That's the early 90-degree temperature in the calendar year. Temperatures flirt with the 90s. They are typically around 71 this time of year. A lot of people wanting the mild temperatures, the few months a year they can get them. Not this time around that region. Across Los Angeles, just the math for you. Seven days in January. Zero across southern California and New England in spectacular in February. Snow level drops and some rain showers across much of southern California. And the eastern United States, thunderstorms popping up. Wintry weather just to the north. Some 40 million people dealing with winter weather advisories and warnings across this hour. And look at the variety weather we had on Monday across the eastern U.S. 1,400 winter storm reports on the northern side of this, Rosemary. 100-plus sever reports on the southern side. So it's been a wild ride.

But you're asking about warmth, it looks like spring-like temperatures near CNN Center this weekend, and we'll get a little bit of a break.

[02:25:10] CHURCH: Will we get an early spring? Too early to tell?

JAVAHERI: I think it's too early to tell.

CHURCH: We'll check back in with you.

JAVAHERI: I'm always here.

CHURCH: Thanks, Pedram.

The biggest names in music turned out for the 58th Annual Grammy awards. Pop princess Taylor Swift won album of the year for '1989."

Rob Manson and Bruno Mars took record of year for "Uptown Funk."

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CHURCH: Kendrick Lamar received a sand standing ovation for his Grammy performance. The rapper led the pack with 11 nominations and took home five awards, including best rap album. Ed Sheeran was awarded song of the year for "Thinking Out Loud."

And the night was filled with tributes for artists that were no longer with us.

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CHURCH: There's Lady Gaga. The pop star wowed the audience for a lavish performance, honoring David Bowie, who passed away last month.

And there's more from this year's Grammys. Later this hour, we'll hear from an entertainment journalist about some of the other highlights from music's biggest night.

Plus, the White House hits back in its burgeoning battle with Senate Republicans over who should fill the vacancy on the Supreme Court.

We're back in a moment.

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[02:30:18] CHURCH: A warm welcome back to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church.

I want to update you on main stories we're following.

(HEADLINES) CHURCH: The Republican presidential candidates are standing firm that President Obama should not replace Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court. But the White House says the search for the right candidate is already under way.

Michelle Kosinski reports.

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MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The White House today now leveling its own blows at Republicans and the deep political standoff started only hours after Justice Antonin Scalia's death.

ERIC SCHULTZ, WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY: This is a Republican Congress that has a lot of practice at saying no. But I also want to point out that this is not the first time that Republicans have come out with a lot of bluster only to have reality ultimately sink in.

KOSINSKI: President Obama vows to fill that Supreme Court seat by constitutional duty.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There's plenty of time for me to do so and for the Senate to fulfill its responsibility to give that person a fair hearing and a timely vote. These are responsibilities that I take seriously, and should everyone. They're bigger than any one party. They're about our democracy.

KOSINSKI: But a defiant Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is unwilling to budge, "The American people should have a voice. This vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president."

OBAMA: Tonight, we honor his service to our nation.

KOSINSKI: The White House officials are discussing the process for vetting the president's potential picks. Names include judges, and some Senators, even Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who was approved by the Senate last year but only after a record months-long delay.

Claire McCaskill calling it then --

SEN. CLAIRE MCCASKILL, (D), MISSOURI: Base politics at its ugliest.

KOSINSKI: But this fight could be worse with so much as stake.

CRUZ: We're one justice away from a radical five-justice liberal majority.

KOSINSKI: Ted Cruz bringing it to the campaign trail.

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ANNOUNCER: Life, liberty, the Second Amendment. We're one Supreme Court justice from losing them all.

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KOSINSKI: On past choices, the president has mentioned an element of compassion.

OBAMA: The judge who is sympathetic enough to those on the outside, those who are vulnerable.

KOSINSKI: Now, though, the politics will be pivotal. Does the president choose someone very moderate, whom Republicans will feel pressure to at least bring to a vote, criticism if they don't, or a liberal to rally Democrats, potentially sending more voters to the polls in November.

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), NEW YORK: I believe that many of the mainstream Republicans, when the president dominates a nominee, will not want to follow Mitch McConnell over the cliff.

[02:35:16] SEN. PATRICK LEAHY (D), VERMONT: The Republicans refuses to hold a hearing, that guarantees they lose control of the Senate. I don't think the American people will stand for that.

KOSINSKI (voice-over): Already, this is shaping up to be the president's last big bat until Congress. What is certain that the outcome will shape the politics and the legal landscape in this country for decades.

On the timeline, there's a vetting process that needs to happen, interviews. The president himself will want to speak to his finalists. The White House is indicating it could take up to a month to announce a nominee as it has in the past.

Michelle Kosinski, CNN, California.

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CHURCH: We have two town halls that are moderated by Anderson Cooper this week. Live from Greenville, South Carolina, 5:00 Pacific, 9:00 a.m. in Hong Kong.

And straight ahead, Pope Francis in Mexico, asking for forgiveness from the people of Mexico's poorest and least-Catholic state.

Plus, standing up for Baby Asher. The story of a 1-year-old girl, a hospital and Australia's controversial immigration policy. The details when we come back.

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CHURCH: Pope Francis has wrapped up the third day of his Mexican tour. He presided over mass in Chiapas, Mexico's poorest least Catholic state. And it's home to a largely indigenous nation. The pope asked the people for forgiveness for years of exclusion and destruction of their land. Later, the pope spoke at a at a stadium in the capital of Chiapas, before tens of thousands of people. Several families were given the chance to meet and speak with the Roman Catholic leader and receive his blessing. [02:40:23] Here's the pope's itinerary for Tuesday. He will attend

mass with priests, seminarians and other religious leaders. Also, he will visit the city's cathedral. And later, he will speak to young people at the Jose Maria Marellos Stadium.

Now, a story that is putting the spotlight on Australia's controversial immigration policy. It involves a 1-year-old girl who is being treated at a Brisbane hospital for severe burns. And she could be sent back to an immigration detention center. Protesters have been camped outside since late last week in support of the staff, who have refused to discharge Baby Asher. They're worried she'll be sent to Nauru.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There were reports about the situation on Nauru for children and adults. And the doctors are concerned what would happen if she was released back to detention.

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CHURCH: And Baby Asher was born in Australia after her parents arrived in the country seeking asylum there. But she and her parents were sent to Nauru last year.

Our Ivan Watson has been following this story and joins us from Hong Kong.

Ivan, let's go over the controversial policy in Australia.

IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Australia intercepts boat loads of refugees. It has several agreements in place. And one it's allowed to move the migrants and referees, to the island of Nauru. It's a small island of a population of 10,000 people. There's a detention center there. The latest figures about 484 detainees there. Dozens of them are children. And Australia pays for the detainees to be kept there in Nauru, it own country. It has a government. And on occasion, when there's medical emergencies, such as in the case of the 1-year-old child who was scalded by a bowl of water that tipped over in the tent that her family was living in. Australia pays to bring those residents to Australia for medical care. And then, they're to be returned back when they're finished. What brought this to a head is the administrators at the Lady Solanto Children's Hospital in Brisbane, they announced that this patient will only be discharged once a suitable moment environment is identified, implying that the detention center in Nauru is not a suitable home environment for a 1-year-old child.

CHURCH: Ivan, who is likely to happen, then, to Baby Asher? What are the operations here? How is the government likely to react to this?

WATSON: Activists seem to have exhausted legal options to prevent deportation of people like this baby. There was a high court case in which the judges ruled that the government is authorized to incarcerate foreign nationals at a place like the Nauru detention center. That's put 267 refugees and migrants in detention centers in Australia, at risk of being deported to Nauru. What we're hearing from some of the human rights activists is they fear that a 72-hour warning, coming from the Australian government, ahead of the deportation, may be stripped from them by the Australian government. And they're trying to sound the alarm about this.

The Australian prime minister has spoken about this recently. He said, quote, "We're managing this policy with great care and with great compassion. At the same time, doing everything we can to ensure that we do not do anything or say anything, which will be used by the people smugglers to get more vulnerable people on to those boats."

Very much maintaining that hard line policy that Australia does not want to allow refugees and migrants to gain access. Even like ash, who is likely to be as the legal system stands right now, be departed back to Australia -- to Nauru, when the government is able to.

And let me just add one more point here. According to activists at the hospital, the baby is under the guard, and the security guards who are contracted to the immigration ministry. Standing outside the room, the burns unit, where the baby's mother and the baby are being treated. Rosemary?

[02:45:32] CHURCH: It has been a controversial issue, the matter of immigration there in Australia.

Ivan Watson will continue to keep us updated on the situation. Many thanks to you.

A Chinese artist is raising awareness of the migrants making the dangerous journey to Europe's shores with his work in Berlin. The artist known for his provocative installations has been an active voice in the crisis, using social media to shine a light on the plight of refugees.

CNN's Atika Shubert has more.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is the latest installation from the China artist, 14,000 life jackets used by refugees to make the dangerous journey across the Mediterranean into Europe. He has suspended an inflatable dinghy. The message is clear, calling attention to the plight of refugees. More than 1 million have entered Europe. And since January, more than 400 have died trying to make the journey, according to the International Organization for Migration.

(on camera): This is in time for the film festival and the Cinema Peace Gala, happening here in Berlin. As A-Listers walk the red carpet, they will be walking past the life jackets, a stark reminder that thousands are still risking their lives to find safe haven in Europe every day.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Berlin.

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[02:51:10] CHURCH: Hey, big news for "Star Wars" fans. Filming is now under way on the next film in the series. Filmmakers just released this sneak peak.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Beautiful.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to "Episode 8."

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CHURCH: Picked up from the end there. We found out that Laura Dern and Benicio del Toro are joining the cast. "Star Wars" Episode 8 arrives in theaters December 15, 2015.

We return to music's biggest night. The 58th Annual Grammy Awards were given out Monday night in Los Angeles. Taylor Swift won three Grammys including one of the biggest awards, album of the year, for "1989." In her acceptance speech, she promoted the importance of self-empowerment.

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TAYLOR SWIFT, SINGER: There's going to be people along the way who will try to undercut your success. Or take credit for your accomplishments or your fame. But if you focus on the work and you don't let those people side track you, someday when you're get where you're going, you will look around and know it was you and the people that love you that put you there. That will be the greatest feeling in the world. Thank you.

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CHURCH: A smart young woman there, and a smart message.

And the show posted tributes, including Lady Gaga's honoring David Bowie. And artists paid tribute to singer Lionel Richie.

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CHURCH: Joining me now to talk more about the Grammys is entertainment journalist, Holland Reed.

Thanks for being with us.

HOLLAND REED, ENTERTAINMENT JOURNALIST: Thank you for having me.

CHURCH: What were all of the being moments? We have to start with that. What will everyone be talking about in the hours ahead?

REED: I love to see Taylor Swift come in as our darling and do a star-studded entry performance. And we love the fact that Lady Gaga gave tribute to David Bowie, which was fantastic.

And then, you know what? I don't feel like there was a huge performance that stood out for the entire Grammys this year. Ginormous is where we would look at and say, this is like a Michael Jackson or Beyonce. We love Lionel Richie. But it stopped there. It was great. There were great performances. It stopped at David Bowie. Taylor Swift and a few performances. That was about it for me.

CHURCH: You picked record of the year.

REED: I did.

CHURCH: "Uptown Funk."

REED: "Uptown Funk," we saw it in viral videos. We saw it in everybody with streaming this, on a regular basis. This was something that everyone just gravitated to. It was a happy song. It was an uplifting song. There was nothing about the song that anybody could look down on. And it was something that everyone just -- it was just a fun song. You cannot distance yourself from it. "Uptown Funk," best song of the year. Glad it won.

[02:55:05] CHURCH: And Taylor Swift, she took home album of the year. She's the first woman to win that twice.

REED: She did. And she was making the point, don't let anyone put you down.

CHURCH: Why not?

REED: I think the year of anybody telling you what you can't do, you know, we've got possibly a woman for president. We have all of the different components coming in as political. Taylor Swift, she's been a phenomenal woman, along our Beyonce's and other people. Her winning this award, with anyone else coming in and saying, I got this. You can get this, two years in a row. Please don't hate.

CHURCH: Yeah.

REED: Get in formation. I said it. OK.

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CHURCH: There's room on the stage for everyone.

REED: There's room on the stage for everyone. And she did it. And it was awesome to see.

CHURCH: Holland Reed, thank you so much.

REED: Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

CHURCH: That wraps up this hour. But we've got more to come.

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I'll be back after this short break with more news from all around the world. Stay with us.

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