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Fatal Shooting in Colorado; Turkey Warns Russia Not to "Play with Fire"; Pope Francis Visits Uganda; Paris Prepares for Climate Summit; Why Gunman Held Colorado Police Off for Nearly Six Hours; Belgium City Seeks to Change Jihadist Reputation; Paris Attacker's Sister Speaks; Beauty Queen Barred from China. Aired 4-5a ET

Aired November 28, 2015 - 04:00   ET

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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Three dead in Colorado after a standoff at a women's health center. We'll bring you all the developments in the latest mass shooting in the U.S.

Also ahead, Paris counts down to a global climate change summit but security concerns threaten to overshadow the big event.

And Pope Francis celebrates mass in Uganda where the pursuit of peace and the fight against poverty at the top of the agenda.

Hello, welcome to our viewers in the U.S. and around the world. I'm Lynda Kinkade. And this is CNN NEWSROOM.

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KINKADE: We begin in the U.S. state of Colorado, where a 59-year-old man is accused of shooting and killing three people, including a police officer during an attack at a women's health clinic.

The gunman gave himself up Friday after six hours of battle with officers at the Planned Parenthood center. Police say nine other people who were wounded are in good condition now. One survivor describes his encounter with the gunman.

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OZY LICANO (PH), VICTIM: I saw a man crawling to the front door. I saw the glass shatter. He crawled into the entryway. Then I saw this other fellow come behind him and shoot down and up and walk into the entryway.

And I just kind of lost it there. I tried to get out of my car and run. Then I thought about that and said no. I got back into the car, started it, put it in reverse and started backing out.

And then he was in front of me. And he was aiming at me. And I just hit the gas. And he started shooting. And I was looking at his face. I think I had 10 seconds, 5-10 seconds to look at him, to try to remember who he was and why he was doing that or whatever. And then the shots came through the glass. Then I started bleeding. As I was looking at him, I saw blood; I didn't know if it was coming from my neck or my lip or what.

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KINKADE: That victim was not shot but suffered cuts from his shattered windshield. The attacks started Friday morning local time and police told people in the area to stay inside as they dealt with the situation. Our Kyung Lah have more on how this all unfolded.

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KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The first calls came in at 11:38 local time. Reports of a man with a gun from inside the Planned Parenthood building in Colorado Springs. Police quickly arrive on scene and are soon fired upon from inside the building. At least four officers are wounded.

DENISE, WITNESS: We saw officers fly into the parking lot with their lights on and everything. And then we saw them pass our shop and go over behind the Chase Bank, which is next door and then there were officers everywhere in the whole perimeter.

And then we saw one of the officers that was behind the Chase Bank go -- we heard several gunshots and then we saw one of the officers go down behind his car. And then the other officer helped him to safety and then --

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You saw -- Denise, you saw the officer go down. You saw an officer get shot?

DENISE: Yes. Yes. It was terrifying.

LAH (voice-over): The area of the shooting, which is heavily populated with shops and traffic, quickly shuts down. Business owners and customers told to shelter in place.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were told to go back to our cars. And that's when a bullet cracked over my head and hit the stop sign on my left side and I just kind of flipped a switch and tried to do crowd control and get people back to their cars as fast as they could.

LAH (voice-over): At this point, police do not know if this is a single shooter or if more are involved. Law enforcement set up a perimeter around the building. The FBI, ATF and bomb squads also on the scene.

Those who are able to escape the Planned Parenthood building are quickly taken to safety but the gunman remains inside. And hours after the first call came in, the gunman is still firing on officers. Police are unsure how many civilians are wounded and how many remain inside the building. It has become a potential hostage situation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have not transported everyone to the hospital at this point. We are still working through the situation.

LAH (voice-over): Police are tracking the gunman's every move inside the building. They are not only concerned that there may be hostages but also because of the possibility of explosive devices the gunman may have brought with him into the building before he began his assault.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): He is sitting in a chair right behind that counter with an AK. He's looking up at the ceiling; white male, trenchcoat, looks like maybe a beard. He's looking around but he's still sitting. He's got the gun at low ready position.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): He's walking down the hallway. Guns at his waist.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): Which way he is walking?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): Directly toward the lobby.

LAH (voice-over): Finally, just before 5:00 pm local time, the suspect is cornered and surrenders to police, his ties to Planned Parenthood and his motives still unclear.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (from captions): He's going to come out with his hands up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): We got to take him out if he has any IEDs of suspicion on him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): Are we in the way of the snipers?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): We have one suspect detained right now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (from captions): OK. Good job.

LAH (voice-over): Kyung Lah, CNN, Los Angeles.

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KINKADE: Joining me now is Steve Moore, a former supervisory special agent from the FBI. He's coming to us via Skype from Los Angeles.

Thank you for joining us.

Now there's three people dead, nine wounded and a 59-year-old man in custody.

What do you make of this attack?

STEVE MOORE, FORMER SUPERVISORY SPECIAL AGENT, FBI: It appears to me to have all the earmarks of a domestic terrorism attack. You have a potential political target. You have an abortion clinic and you have a person -- I mean, it's almost, you know, if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's going to be a duck. It sure appears to be domestic terrorism.

KINKADE: Now, abortion, as you mentioned, is among the services at this Planned Parenthood clinic. It is an issue that is made. The organization targeted in the past.

What do you make of the kind of people who carry out these attacks at facilities like this?

MOORE: Well, the people that do this are very similar to ISIS people. They take their violent tendencies and use a religion to justify it, specifically a religion that actually prohibits this kind of violence. So these people are terrorists hiding behind a religion.

KINKADE: Do we need to see more security at these kind of clinics given the number of attacks?

MOORE: Well, I think they should probably consider that. I mean, you have literally a split almost down the middle of the United States about those who believe abortion is OK and those who believe that it's killing, it's taking a life.

So you are going to have a lot of people on either side of this issue. And then you have had these videos, recently, of Planned Parenthood, of allegedly selling body parts of aborted children. This is going to inflame the emotions of anybody on the side who believes that abortion is wrong.

KINKADE: Now, according to police reports, the suspect was carrying an AK-47, a military assault rifle. It might surprise some of our international viewers that, in the U.S., you can buy an AK-47 online with no background check in many areas.

Do you think it's too easy for people in the U.S. to get their hands on these sorts of weapons?

MOORE: Well, I can tell you, I can't do that, even being ex-FBI because I live in California.

It may or may not -- I mean, it's probably something where, again, we have to look at the type of people who are buying it. The whole gun issue, the guns are (INAUDIBLE) Pandora's boxes but opened. We are not able to get it in the box back.

And so I think we need to look at mental health issues as much as we need to look at the availability of weapons because the abortion clinic attacks that I worked were all bombings. So, I mean, if you don't use a gun, you can certainly use ammonium nitrate, which is available at Home Depot.

KINKADE: Now we know the death penalty exists in Colorado, even though there hasn't been an execution for a while.

Is it likely, do you think, that this shooter might face the death penalty?

MOORE: I think it's very possible that he may face the death penalty. I think the big decision right now is going to be his motivation. If it turns out that it's a domestic terrorist act, then what's going to happen is the U.S. Justice Department is going to want to prosecute this as a domestic terrorist incident.

And then the rules on -- the rules on the death penalty change just a little bit. But you remember after the Oklahoma City bombing, there was a death penalty issued and executed.

KINKADE: OK. We'll have to leave it there for now, as much as we would like to continue this conversation.

Steve Moore, special agent for the FBI, thank you very much for joining us.

MOORE: Thank you.

KINKADE: Turkey's president is warning Russia, "Don't play with fire." Recep Tayyip Erdogan is responding to Moscow, apparently detaining a group of Turkish business men on visa irregularities.

Russia threatened economic punishment after the Turkish military shot down one of its warplanes. Former CNN Moscow bureau chief, Jill Dougherty, is now a researcher with the International Center for Defense and Security, has more on the diplomatic fallout.

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JILL DOUGHERTY, INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR DEFENSE AND SECURITY: Russia is planning even more retaliation against the Turkish government for the shootdown of its plane.

Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev has ordered the government to put together a list of possible actions and now they have that list complete and they will formally present it Saturday.

The government already had cut back on imports of food from Turkey. It had ended at least temporarily visa-free travel by Turks to Russia. And also it urged Russian tourists not to travel to Turkey.

Now the defense ministry meanwhile has released its version of how that shootdown of the Russian plane happened. They call it an ambush by the Turks and they also say that they informed the United States as the head of the U.S.-led coalition that their forces were going to be operating in a specific area.

Now, meanwhile, the Turks are looking to try to calm this situation; President Erdogan wants to meet with President Putin next week, the 30th of November, in Paris at a climate conference. But the Kremlin is saying no meeting has been discussed and no meeting is planned.

Finally, an interesting comment by a senior aide to President Putin, Yuri Kovalchuk. He gave the highlights of the meeting that President Putin had with French President Hollande.

And he said that there is a recognition that eventually there will have to be a ground operation in order to squeeze the terrorists but he said there is also an understanding that only the Syrians can do that.

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KINKADE: This just in to CNN: two peacekeepers and one contractor were killed at a U.S. base in Northern Mali. Twenty other people were wounded. The spokesman of the U.N. mission there tells CNN that an unidentified group launched a mortar attack early in the morning but no one claimed responsibility at this stage. We will, of course, continue to bring you the latest on that as soon as we learn more.

Pope Francis has celebrated mass at a shrine dedicated to Ugandan martyrs near Kampala, Uganda.

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KINKADE (voice-over): He paid homage to the Christians executed more than 100 years ago for refusing to denounce their faith. It is estimated hundreds of thousands of people attended the mass.

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KINKADE: CNN's Delia Gallagher is in Kampala with more on the pope's activities. And she joins us now on the phone.

Delia, the mass wrapped up just a short time ago. Give us a sense of what it was like.

DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Lynda, a couple of hundred thousand people were there in the stadium or in the shrine area so they could actually see what was going on at the mass.

But outside the gate, it was lined with people on dirt roads, waiting to get a glimpse of the pope. Many of them told me that they had stayed there overnight. They walked from far away to have a chance to see Pope Francis.

And when we came in yesterday from Kenya, you know, the airport here in Uganda is about 40 kilometers outside of the main city, Kampala. So, the street going from the airport to Kampala was absolutely jam- packed. I have never seen crowds like it and I mean for kilometers and kilometers.

So obviously a very good event for the people of Uganda. And that shrine where the pope said mass is really the focus of his visit here in Uganda because it's the scene of a massacre of 45 Christians back in the late 1800s.

So they are heroes for the people of Uganda and the people of Uganda come from all around to go on pilgrimage there every year. So it was a very symbolic moment for the country.

KINKADE: Absolutely, a huge turnout there. But the pope also covered some very important issues. We know he visited a slum and has spoken out against corruption.

What did he have to say?

GALLAGHER: Well, yes, he certainly has a political message. He's got a political message and a religious message here. And on his political message, on corruption in particular, we heard him go very strong in Kenya (INAUDIBLE) when he met with the political leaders right after he landed.

And he told them that they need to work with transparency and integrity, the same message he gave in Kenya.

Now on corruption, it's interesting that he -- in the event after he met with politicians, which (INAUDIBLE) people, he talked about corruption because of course there are two levels. There's a political side to things but there's also a sort of cultural acceptance of corruption.

And so he told the people, you know, corruption is like sugar. It tastes good but is ultimately bad for you. And I know what I'm talking about because we have corruption also at the Vatican. So it's interesting to see Pope Francis in these situations where he's with politicians. He gives one type of speech when he's with the people; he gives another type of speech --

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GALLAGHER: -- same message, different language. He's the people's pope so he knows how to have the credibility to talk to them in simple terms about something so important like corruption.

Because in this country, like in many African countries, they suffer from the fact that a large amount of their wealth and they're very wealth in natural resources, is being held in the hands of a few people. And so the society suffers from it. So that's been a big message point for Pope Francis.

KINKADE: It was interesting he spoke of the sugar analogy, given that it's a commodity that is often stolen and smuggled in that region.

The other thing he also spoke about --

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KINKADE: -- was anti-homosexual law and obviously that's a major issue there.

Will the pope be preaching more tolerance?

GALLAGHER: Well, on that topic, I think he probably won't touch on it here. That's my sense because hee I think he's got a basically a religious focus. However, we spoke to bishops about it. We have certainly spoken to

the people of Uganda about it.

And what's interesting is, of course, the Vatican's position is -- the whole story, for those who don't know, is that there was an anti-gay bill being proposed here by the president, supported by the president and Western governments threatened to cut off funding if that bill went ahead.

And there are many aspects to this issue in general terms; the Vatican would obviously be against any discrimination against gay people. But at the same time they're also against threatening to cut off funding because they think that that affects the poor the most.

But when you talk to people here in Uganda about that issue -- and similarly in Kenya -- it's about, also, a mentality and a culture that's been culturally built to accept homosexuality. So some of them point to, for example, the president from Kenya, who, when Obama came over in July, said we can't impose a law upon people who don't accept it.

So there are a couple aspects and one is legislation. The other is mentality. But in any case, I think Pope Francis probably won't be tackling that issue today in Uganda.

KINKADE: OK. Delia Gallagher, we appreciate that update. We hope to talk to you very soon. Thanks very much.

GALLAGHER: Thank you.

KINKADE: Now, there was, of course, high security there in Kampala for the pope's visit. And security will be especially important in Paris for the upcoming climate change conference, which gets underway very soon. And it comes after those horrific terror attacks in Paris.

We will tell you what the country is doing to keep hundreds of world leaders safe.

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KINKADE (voice-over): Welcome back. Thousands of demonstrators in Brisbane, Australia, attended a climate change rally on Saturday. You can see thousands of them working, marching for action.

The protest is one of a number of demonstrations planned around the world this weekend ahead of the U.N. climate talks in Paris; 150 heads of states will attend the COP 21 summit and thousands of security personnel will be deployed throughout France as a precaution.

CNN's Jim Bittermann has more.

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JIM BITTERMANN, CNN SR. INTL. CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A wind turbine has sprouted in the middle of the Avenue Champs-Elysee. A planetary globe has appeared in the middle of the environmental ministry.

Paris seems as if it's being paved over with solar panels and the city is awash in displays and innovations.

Gerard d'Aboville (ph) has singlehandedly rowed boats across both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, sail up the River Seine with what is said to be the world's largest solar-powered oceangoing vessel.

GERARD D'ABOUVILLE (PH), SAILOR AND ENGINEER: I think the key of the climate is mostly into the oceans. So I'm very pleased to bring here in Paris a little bit of the sea.

BITTERMANN (voice-over): For the tens of thousands of others like d'Aboville (ph), drawn to Paris for the coming two weeks, this is make-or-break time for climate change. "Later will be too late," say the signs atop the French foreign ministry, as the foreign minister himself knows, trying to get the nations of the world to agree on anything is a tall order.

And never before in France or perhaps anywhere have there been negotiations quite like these. Starting Monday, 195 countries will gather at a purpose-built conference center at Le Bourget Airport north of Paris to try to find agreement on worldwide limitations on greenhouse gases.

But the complex negotiations were nearly overshadowed by the vicious terrorist attacks in Paris two weeks ago, which, at first, seemed as if they might endanger the meetings here. In fact, some people felt that the climate talks should be called off.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): I'm not convinced about the necessity at this moment to organize this event. I think we have other priorities today, even if the environment is very important.

BITTERMANN (voice-over): But for most, those worldwide issues trump even terrorist concerns.

BITTERMANN: In a way, the Paris conference is just too big to call off. Everyone from the pope on down has emphasized how important it is for the planet to concentrate on the climate issue. President Hollande said just a few days ago that the best response to the terrorist attacks is to carry on with the climate summit.

BITTERMANN (voice-over): But protecting the nearly 150 heads of state and 40,000 delegates who are expected will be a real challenge for French security forces; 2,800 police and army will patrol the site itself; 8,000 more will reinforce French borders; in all, 120,000 security personnel will be mobilized across the country.

The leaders will only attend for the first two days of the conference but miles of roads will have to be closed off to get them to and from the conference site, something that is expected to throw normally impossible French traffic into chaos.

But with popular demonstrations and serious negotiations, the climate conference will go on. It's something the world's leaders feel simply cannot be postponed any longer -- Jim Bittermann, CNN, Paris.

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KINKADE: Joining me now is Ricken Patel, he is the founder of Avaaz --

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KINKADE: -- an advocacy group that encourages global action on climate change.

Thank you very much for joining us.

Now two years ago, your organization asked members to contribute to a 30-month campaign to bring a climate deal at this Paris summit.

What did that campaign involve and what are you hoping will be achieved?

RICKEN PATEL, FOUNDER, AVAAZ: Well, 18 months ago, people were miserable about this issue. There really didn't seem to be any political momentum whatsoever on it. And the outlook was bleak.

And then a year ago, we saw the largest mobilization in history on climate change. Hundreds of thousands of people out in the streets, across the planet. And it changed the music. And we've seen the best year of progress ever on climate change, much higher commitments from each nation state and unprecedented commitments from a broad range of nation states on this issue.

It's really changed the game. So we are heading into Paris with a lot of political momentum. And the job now is to make sure this summit delivers.

KINKADE: You founded this online activism group that specializes in email petitions, online mobilization, if you like.

But what do you say to critics who claim that your group doesn't really engage with people on the issue because it's easy to click on and sign a protest, feel good about it for the moment, and then forget about it?

PATEL: Yes, I think it's just silly, the criticism. The Internet empowers all kinds of action, including offline. And we spearheaded that largest mobilization in history on climate change last year. And we are doing it again this weekend. We are seeing the early marches from Australia and New Zealand have

come in. They're the largest marches in Australia's history and New Zealand's history. We think we're going to beat last year's record.

Our community of 42 million people has mobilized. And there are hundreds of thousands for this. So I think this is just -- today is a great day to ask me that question because you can see what's going on around the world in the streets as a result of this kind of activism.

KINKADE: You mentioned some of the things you've achieved.

Where do you think your group has made the biggest difference?

PATEL: Oh, I think on climate change, one thing that recently happened is there's a goal that we need out of this Paris conference. It's that the world commits -- the only solution to climate change, which is to transition our economies to 100 percent clean energy. That's how we fix this problem.

When we first started pushing that goal, people said it was pie in the sky. There's no way that people would agree to it. And we pushed Angela Merkel, the chairman of the G-7 talks recently. And she really stepped up. And Obama joined her and other leaders joined her and they committed, as the world's richest polluting countries, to decarbonize the global economy.

That was a real eye-opener for a lot of people that, wow, there is a potential for profound tectonic movement on this issue. It's been pushed by people. There are no spectators, Lynda. Like if you are sitting home watching this right now, what happens in the next two weeks depends on all of us.

We have to get on the phones to our governments; we've got to be on the Internet, we've got to be out in the streets because what people do will determine whether this conference a success or not.

KINKADE: Of course many believe that no matter what comes out of the Paris conference, it won't be enough to prevent the temperature from rising 2 degrees by 2100.

At the end of this conference, what do you think, realistically, would be a successful outcome?

PATEL: I think Paris needs to deliver a goal, a price tag and a mechanism. The goal is 100 percent clean energy worldwide. The price tag is about the fact that you can't ask the poor countries who haven't contributed to this problem nearly as much and need development to pay for this transition.

So the price tag that's been agreed is $100 billion a year from rich polluters to the poor countries. And then we have to recognize that, you are right, we are not on track. With the current pledges we have, we are on track for 3 degrees warming. We have got to get that down to 2 degrees. And we need a mechanism that will ratchet up ambition over time. Those are the three things that are success for Paris.

KINKADE: OK, Ricken Patel, we wish you all the best. Thank you so much for joining us.

PATEL: Thank you so much, Lynda.

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KINKADE (voice-over): Ahead, we'll explain the extra challenges officers face as they try to bring a deadly standoff to an end in the U.S. state of Colorado. Still to come, stay with us.

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KINKADE (voice-over): Welcome back. Hello, I'm Lynda Kinkade. Here's an update of the top stories we're following this hour.

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KINKADE (voice-over): A U.S. law enforcement official tells CNN a 59- year-old man is the shooter who killed three people at a women's health clinic. Officers and the gunman exchanged fire for six hours on Friday in Colorado. A 6-year police veteran is among the dead. Investigators have not yet released a motive.

Turkey's president is warning that Russia is playing with fire with its threats of economic sanctions. Russia reportedly detained a group of Turkish businessmen over visa irregularities. This comes after Turkey shot down a Russian warplane, an incident which left two Russians dead.

In Nigeria, a suicide bomber attacked a Shiite Muslim procession, killing at least 21 people on Friday. The march is an annual ritual for the religious minority in Northern Nigeria. Nobody has claimed responsibility but the terrorist group Boko Haram has carried out similar attacks in the region.

People in Auckland, New Zealand, gathered on Saturday to mourn one of the nation's greatest rugby players. Jonah Lamu, the former All Black player, died suddenly earlier this month. A traditional ceremony called the Day of the Family was held on Friday.

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KINKADE: Returning to our top story now. The mass shooting in Colorado that left three dead and nine wounded. Police say the gunman exchanged gunfire with them for nearly six hours before surrendering. Tom Foreman gives us a closer look at the Colorado Springs area to see what police were dealing with.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: One of the big questions about all of this is how did this situation here in the middle of Colorado, how did this go on for so long? Why was it so difficult for police to pin it down?

Part of the problem was the potential threat to so many people around. In the beginning, police closed down this road because it was not clear exactly where the shooting was coming from or where it was aimed.

If you add up all the houses out in this main grid here of the roads that close in around it, you're getting 750 to 800 different homes, you have a lot of businesses up in here, you have businesses down in here. An awful lot of people in the area that's potentially affected.

When there was this confusion, it was partially spurred by the fact that it appears that the shooter, the suspected shooter in all of this, was over in this area, authorities say, but his shots were reaching out into other areas so much --

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FOREMAN: -- so that there were people in this shopping center down here who were told they could not come outside, they had to stay inside and lock the doors.

This is a bank down in this area here. More businesses over here. All of that had to be protected by police until they figured out exactly what was happening. And then, even when they narrowed it down to saying it really was about the Planned Parenthood building right over here, they still had a large building next to it that had medical offices in it.

They also had this building up here, which takes care of senior citizens. So there were dozens and dozens of people in the general vicinity that had to be protected not merely from this long gun, this rifle that the suspect has or police say he had, but also these devices they are talking about, possible propane tanks.

Obviously they are talking about the idea they might have exploded at some point. All of that is what made this go on and on and on.

Yes, it looked like it was just one incident in one building when you get to the end of that time. But before then, an awful lot of people potentially affected.

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KINKADE: Our thanks to Tom Foreman for that report.

What is not yet clear is why the gunman went on this rampage. Earlier, CNN law enforcement analyst Cedric Alexander spoke with Natalie Allen about the investigation.

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CEDRIC ALEXANDER, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: You would think at the beginning of this -- and I pretty much had predicted that this would end in a shootout and they would have to end up neutralizing that target, being the subject himself.

But whatever may have come over him, he made the right decision to give up.

Now what's important here, the information that's going to be ascertained from him as to, one, why did you do this?

Two, who else may have been involved in helping this planning and staging this unfortunate incident?

And also it gives us a lot of history into his mind and where he's from and what's his thoughts and ideologies may happen to be, whether it surrounds this clinic or whether it surrounds some other issues such as mental illness, whatever the case he may be struggling with.

This is certainly going to be a long investigation. It's going to cover a great deal of territory in and around that building in and of itself. But certainly they are going to question the subject. Hopefully he's cooperative to give them some idea as to why and how he planned this.

And that will give us further insight as well, too, into the other things that may come out of this investigation. But I think it is also important to note as well, too, when search warrants are given to officers to go into his vehicle, to go into any residences that he may own, it will be revealing as well, too, in terms of his planning of this operation.

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KINKADE: Still to come, the sister of one of the Paris attackers speaks exclusively to CNN. You'll see why she says she can't believe what he did.

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KINKADE: Welcome back. Now for the latest on the terror investigations in Europe.

Belgium authorities say they have arrested and charged one person with links to terrorist activities; two others have been placed in detention. In Brussels, the city's threat was lowered to serious, the second highest ranking after it was in lockdown last weekend.

The small town just outside the Belgian capital was once called the "city of jihadis" after dozens of its citizens left for Syria. But since taking office, Vilvoorde's mayor has taken some extraordinary steps to change the city's reputation, including a deradicalization officer for the town. Alexandra Field reports.

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ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The fastest-growing town in Belgium is small. Vilvoorde's population is just 42,000. So when it started feeding fighters to Syria, things spiraled quickly but then stopped suddenly.

HANS BONTE, MAYOR, VILVOORDE: The exodus started in the summer of 2012.

FIELD: So in those two years, from 2012 to 2014, had 28 people leave here to go to Syria.

Where are they now?

BONTE: Some of them are still there. Some of them are killed.

FIELD (voice-over): Mayor Hans Bonte took office in 2013 in the middle of the crisis. At the time he says Vilvoorde was called the city of jihadis.

BONTE: I've heard it, young boys telling me, my dream is to be killed.

FIELD (voice-over): Today the mayor is cautiously declaring at least a measure of victory for his deradicalization and intervention efforts.

BONTE: Radicalism, you win it or lose it on the corners of the street.

FIELD (voice-over): Counteracting messages from recruiters has taken the work of a coalition, the police, family, a lot of community members and outreach workers.

MOAD EL BOUDANI, YOUTH WORKER: We try to send social workers towards the houses, engaging into the families and tried for the first time providing help.

FIELD (voice-over): The proof of success, they say, is that no one has made it to Syria from Vilvoorde since May of 2014.

But nearby in Brussels, raids to root out anyone with ties to the terror cell that perpetrated the Paris attacks continue, making it clear there's still a second front in a bigger battle across Belgium, a country that is proportionately the largest supplier of foreign fighters to Syria.

What to do about those who come back?

BONTE: In my opinion, someone who has left Belgium to go over there to fight in Syria, he can stay there.

FIELD (voice-over): Seven of the 28 who traveled from Vilvoorde to Syria eventually returned to the town, Bonte says. Most were sent to prison, but the mayor says those who weren't are carefully and constantly monitored by the police and the community. BONTE: Most of these people who came back, I don't think they are

risky but you only need one fool.

FIELD (voice-over): He insists everyone must watch to keep anyone from falling through the cracks -- Alexandra Field, CNN, Vilvoorde.

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KINKADE: Now we're learning more about one of the men behind the Paris attacks. Samy Amimour was amongst three attackers hits on the Bataclan concert hall two weeks ago. Amimour then blew himself up. Now his sister is speaking out exclusively to CNN.

Our Hala Gorani spoke with her in French and the woman asked us not to show her face or use her real voice.

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HALA GORANI, CNN CONTRIBUTOR (voice-over): He was one of the terrorists responsible for the worst terrorist attack in France in half a century. One of three shooters at the Bataclan concert hall on November 13th, his name revealed days later, Samy Amimour. For the first time on international television, his sister is speaking out.

GORANI: At what point did you learn that your younger brother was one of the attackers?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): At first I was shocked. I was screaming in despair and sadness. And when I gathered my thoughts, I thought this information was wrong, that there was a mistake, that it was impossible.

GORANI (voice-over): A man who grew up to be a mass murderer but whose --

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GORANI (voice-over): -- life, according to his sister, started very differently. She shared personal pictures of her brother with us.

GORANI: The Samy you knew, you're saying was a nice guy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Exactly. He was a nice person, a sensitive person, a bit shy, somebody you can rely on, a generous person, someone nice who loved to laugh and joke.

GORANI (voice-over): But then that man disappeared, she says, literally, traveling to Syria to join ISIS.

His father reportedly went after his son to try to convince him to come home, to no avail. Amimour's family actually stayed in touch with him while he was in Syria. The last message from him was sent in August of this year.

GORANI: In your last contact with him, was it just an ordinary conversation? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Yes.

GORANI: With absolutely no sign that anything like this could happen?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): No. No sign. Totally normal conversation. I asked him how he was. And he told me, listen, I am very well, I have a lot of things to deal with at the moment. So I will call you very soon. Send kisses to everyone and to my cat.

GORANI: How do you reconcile the -- your brother, who says, kiss the parents, kiss the cat, you know, I'll call you soon, the little boy you grew up with, with the man who so coldly murdered dozens of helpless people in a concert hall?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): To me, there's no link. It's almost like it's not him. There's no chance. I know it's real but...

GORANI (voice-over): So what happened to a man who worked as a bus driver, led a seemingly normal life in the northern Paris suburb of Drancy, that turned him into a mass killer and suicide bomber?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): It started with the Internet. He visited websites that were sort of controversial. Then it continued with videos and then it stayed that way. Then beyond the world of the Internet, there was also the real world. People came to talk to him.

GORANI: Where?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): In the area, here, below the house. They came to talk to him more and more and told him that he should attend the sermon at the mosque more regularly, that he should be more devoted to his practice of Islam. Then they led him towards mosques that were more radical.

GORANI (voice-over): These are some of the pictures of Amimour's victims, some of the 89 people ruthlessly killed that night.

Does his family feel any responsibility for Amimour's actions?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Of course, there's part of us that says maybe it's our fault. Maybe we should have done something different. Maybe, just maybe.

GORANI: If you had an opportunity to speak to the family of one of the victims, what would you say to them?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Sorry for your loss. We're sorry, because we didn't want all of this. We understand the pain they feel and we know that nothing will bring their families back, whatever we may say. So we just hope that they can mourn their dead.

GORANI (voice-over): Hala Gorani, CNN, Paris.

(END VIDEOTAPE) KINKADE: Still to come on CNN NEWSROOM, Miss Canada can't get into China for this year's Miss World competition. Why the beauty queen says the country is punishing her. That story just ahead.

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KINKADE: Welcome back.

The Miss World competition is underway in China. But one contestant is missing from the big event. Miss World Canada Anastasia Lin says she's been barred from entering China because of her outspoken views on human rights issues there. Our Paula Newton has the details.

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Meet Anastasia Lin, the beauty queen banned from mainland China.

ANASTASIA LIN, MISS WORLD CANADA: I was declared persona non grata, which means I'm not welcome to the country anymore. I'm not welcome to the place where I was born.

NEWTON (voice-over): Lin was born in China and moved to Toronto as a teenager. Now 25, she was crowned Miss Canada in May. She was stopped at the airport in Hong Kong on Friday, denied permission to board a connecting flight to a resort in mainland China, where the Miss World pageant finals were already underway.

Speaking to reporters, Lin accused Chinese authorities of punishing her for speaking out against human rights abuses in her native country.

LIN: Ask the Chinese government why is it afraid to let in a beauty queen?

Ask them why, what kind of precedent this would set for future international events that they want to host?

Ask them whether they would also bar Olympic athletes from participating in Winter Olympic Games just because they have different views that the Communist Party don't agree with?

NEWTON (voice-over): Lin is also a believer in Falun Gong, a spiritual group banned in China that Beijing describes as a cult. In an interview with CNN, Lin says her father, who still lives in China, has also been harassed by security officials. The beauty queen says she's not giving up her fight.

LIN: I think someone has got to speak out. This kind of trend can't continue forever. Foreign journalists, academics, they have been stifled because the China Communist Party tried to use visa as leverage to silence them. And I do want to do my best to put a stop in this unhealthy trend.

NEWTON (voice-over): Chinese officials aren't commenting, while Miss World organizers tell Reuters they had no information as to why a visa was not granted to Lin but said she may be offered a place in the 2016 contest -- Paula Newton, CNN.

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KINKADE: Finally, at this hour, if you are in the U.S. and you didn't spend the Friday after Thanksgiving shopping until you dropped, you definitely were not alone. Black Friday is becoming a bit of a --

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KINKADE: -- bleak Friday for many big brands. Alison Kosik explains the reasons for the downturn.

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ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Believe it or not, Black Friday isn't the powerhouse it used to be. In recent years, sales have been slipping. But, it is still king. Last year, in terms of sales, Black Friday was the second biggest shopping day of the year behind super Saturday, which is the Saturday before Christmas.

But there's a lot that's stealing Black Friday's thunder. It's really become Black November, where stores offer deep discounts throughout the entire month leading up to turkey day.

You look at yesterday alone, on Thanksgiving, cyber sales are expected to reach $1.7 billion.

Kind of makes you wonder, which is better for a bargain, Black Friday or Cyber Monday?

Well, it depends on what you are buying. If you are looking for clothing, shoes or beauty items, Cyber Monday wins. But if it's electronics that you are after, like a laptop, you'll score a better bargain on Black Friday.

Now when you shop online, where prices change faster than in stores, if you are worried about missing out on the best deals, here is a little tip for you. There's an app for that. It's called Paribus. You sign up and connect your inbox to the service and shop online as you normally would.

Then, when prices drop or you miss a coupon, Paribus will get your money back for you. Yes, it's just one more way to get all the benefits of Black Friday minus the crazy crowds.

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KINKADE: Well, that does it for this edition of CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Lynda Kinkade. I'll be back with another edition in just a few moments. But first, you heard Alison Kosik talk about those crazy crowds on Black Friday. Here is just a taste of those that were not so festive.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get off of me! (INAUDIBLE).