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Donald Trump, Dearly Dismissed By Some As A Joke Now Leading Polls; Trump`s Most Outrageous Remarks About Fellow Candidates. Aired 9-10p ET

Aired September 14, 2015 - 21:00   ET

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[21:00:14] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, we are devoting the entire hour to Mr. Donald trump. Dismissed by some early on as perhaps even a

joke, but he has charged to the top of the polls with his outrageousness. Why do people love him? Why do they hate him? Will he be our next

president?

It all starts right now at the "Top of the Feed." We have every single member of our audience tonight a Trump supporter.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

I am not kidding. They are for real. They can barely be contained. But my question -- I am curious about this whole phenomenon. What keeps him at

the top of the polls, no matter what comes out of his mouth? Take a look at this.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are lead by very, very stupid people. We will have so much winning if I get elected that you may get

bored with winning.

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TRUMP: I win at golf. I win at golf. That I can tell you.

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TRUMP: I have been doing deals for a long time. I have been making lots of wonderful deals, great deals. That is what I do.

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TRUMP: After I announced, we went up like a rocket ship. I do not need money. I do not want money and this is going to be a campaign like I think

no other. Tom Brady is a very good friend of mine.

Kanye West -- you know what? I will never say bad about him. You know why? Because he loves Trump. He loves Trump. He goes around saying,

Trump is my all-time hero. He says it to everybody. So far, everybody that is attacked me has gone down the tubes.

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PINSKY: I thought Kanye was running for president? I get that part wrong? Samantha Schacher joins me, host of "Pop Trigger" on Hulu.com; Areva

Martin, attorney and legal consultant.

Dondre Whitfield, Actor, spokesman for the student African-American Brotherhood; Omarosa, T.V. personality, former contestant on "The

Apprentice," and Ernie White, civil rights activist.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

So, Areva, we have organized this room in such a way that the panel is outnumbered, but I am going to give you first up here. Make sense of all

of this for me.

AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY AND LEGAL CONSULTANT: You know, I have been saying all along that Donald Trump is a huge brand. He is a media personality.

So, of course, he is going to soak up all the media, because that is what he do best -- that is what he does best.

Now, running for president and being a policy guy, he is just proven he cannot do it. He cannot do it. He is going down. He is going down. And,

you better enjoy this media circus now, because it is going to end and it is going to end pretty quickly.

OMAROSA MANIGAULT, T.V. PERSONALITY AND FORMER CONTESTANT ON "THE APPRENTICE": You said that a month ago, and you are wrong. The numbers

keep going up.

PINSKY: Omarosa --

MANIGAULT: He is connecting with people. You are missing it, Areva.

PINSKY: Omarosa, listen to me for one second. A lot of people like Areva criticize his use of the media. They say it is a reality show. They say

it is a lot of brand pomposity, that kind of stuff. No substance. But, you know, it is very strange to me. When I look at Hillary`s campaign, it

looks old-fashioned.

MANIGAULT: Exactly.

PINSKY: It is like we have moved forward in some strange weird way. And, I started thinking about the history of America. And, there is always been

sort of candidates that have taken control in ways that people -- what are they doing? Teddy -- Looking back, it all looks old fashioned to us.

But, Teddy Roosevelt was the first candidate to bring newspaper men into his office. People thought he was out of his mind. He was being sort of

under low-class by doing that. This is the same thing. The wheel has turned and he has gotten a hold of it, no?

MANIGAULT: Absolutely. And, he is separated himself from the snores and the bores. He has connected with all the people who understand that you

have to bring more to the table than just going down and saying old promises. The old way is not going to work. And, Areva is missing the

point. A month ago she said that Donald Trump would no longer be in this race and that he was just a joke.

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PINSKY: Let us give Sam a chance.

SAMANTHA SCHACHER, HOST OF "POP TRIGGER" ON HULU.COM: OK.

PINSKY: Sam.

SCHACHER: Just because he is savvy in the PR department does not mean that he would be a great president. I am sorry. My biggest concern about

Donald Trump, especially now that America is so divided, we do not need a president who is going to -- who is going to -- hold on. Who is going to

say inflammatory -- let me finish!

Who is going to say inflammatory remarks. Who is going to marginalize a group of people. Whether -- hold on! Let me finish. Can I finish?

Whether or not - OK. Whether or not -- that is not my point.

My point is, OK, if he is going to marginalize a group of people, I am not calling him a racist, but guess what, Omarosa, you know there is a ton of

racists out there, and by him saying those things -- it gives license to those people to feel valid in their beliefs and then they feel justified in

acting them out --

PINSKY: OK. Everybody.

MANIGAULT: Samantha, give us one example.

SCHACHER: -- Just like those two guys that beat up an immigrant and said that Trump inspired them. OK?

PINSKY: Everybody, hang on a second. All my guests, look in my eyes. Look in my eyes, do not talk over each other. Number one.

SCHACHER: I cannot get a word here --

PINSKY: Hang on. And, two, when you see me raise my hand and start to talk, shut up. You understand, everybody? We are going to do this. That

is how we are going to do it. OK?

[21:05:00] Otherwise, we will not be able to get through this. These guys will not let me get through this night. I know how they are going to be

once they get the mic, and you too. OK?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I got you.

PINSKY: I am going to give you a chance.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I -- I got you --

PINSKY: If you see me -- oh, I am about to speak, you shut up. OK, you go ahead.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I disagree. I am not a political person, I am not left/right. I am a mother. My only child was killed by

an illegal.

MANIGAULT: Wow.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: So, I have a whole different attitude about this. It is not about ratings. It is about somebody who wakes

everybody up. I did not want to listen to anymore politicians, because I did not understand their language. I fell asleep. I did not even turn on

the T.V. because I did not understand it.

But when Donald Trump spoke up about illegal crime, I screamed at home, because for three years, since my son was killed, I have been trying to

bring awareness to that and nobody listened. So, he did not just come in as a little snowflake, he came in like an avalanche and opened that door.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Sam, go ahead.

SCHACHER: Can I respond?

PINSKY: Yes. Go ahead.

SCHACHER: First and foremost, I am so sorry that you have had to endure that. I cannot imagine and my deepest sympathies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you.

SCHACHER: But, I feel like that goes to my point, because there is a lot of crime out here. And, just because somebody is an illegal immigrant does

not mean that they are all rapists or that they are all murders.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He did not say that. He did not say that.

SCHACHER: But he did make a generalization and some people are leaping to that. And, that is what I am concerned about.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No.

SCHACHER: He really wants find rapists, so --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I do not think so.

SCHACHER: Go to college campuses.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No. I do not think so, because --

SCHACHER: Go see Bill Cosby story.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Now, see, people would tell me -- people would telling me that, "Oh, well, your son could have been killed by

an American." OK. Yes, he could have been, but he was not.

SCHACHER: Right. I understand your point.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: The guy who killed my son was here for eight years committing felonies, two DUIs. He always got probation.

He got more breaks than you and I would get.

SCHACHER: Right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I have been called racist. My son is half black -- was half black. I carry his ashes in my locket.

SCHACHER: That is very sad.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am an immigrant from Germany, so I did it the right way, and that is all I am saying. It has nothing to do

with race. Race is none of that.

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PINSKY: Thank you. Again, we will talk during the break. I want to show you what Trump`s latest insult was directed at the expense now of not just

women, but the republican running on the side against him, Carly Fiorina, of course, I am talking about. Look at what he had to say about her.

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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST OF "NEW DAY" PROGRAM: "Look at that face. Why would anyone vote for that. Can you imagine that is the face of our next

president? I mean, she is a woman, I am not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?" That is not about persona.

TRUMP (via phone): I am talking persona.

CUOMO: How?

TRUMP: And, when she hits me on my hair --

CUOMO: Where is persona in that?

TRUMP: I know that is OK, and you will not defend me, because my hair is - -

CUOMO: That is tit-for-tat. That is tit-for-tat.

TRUMP: By the way, I think you know me well enough it is my hair. Nobody ever comes to my defense. So, I am just saying this --

CUOMO: You come to your defense.

TRUMP: Carly had a terrible time in business. She destroyed a company. You have Ben saying what he said. You have Carly say, these are two people

that will not be president.

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PINSKY: Can you defend that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, I can. Why is it OK for everybody to be saying something about Donald Trump`s hair. But, oh, when

we say something about a woman, then you know what, oh, the whole world has to be in an uproar. Well, you know what? Girls, women, let us get our big

girl panties on and let us deal with the issues.

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SCHACHER: Wow.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK?

SCHACHER: Wow.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I mean come on. You know what? --

PINSKY: I want to hear from Dondre. Go ahead.

DONDRE WHITFIELD, ACTOR AND SPOKESMAN FOR THE STUDENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN BROTHERHOOD: You know, this actually is -- this actually is comical,

because the reason why Donald Trump is gaining so much traction in our nation is because we live in an abusive society, practicing bullying

tactics.

SCHACHER: Yes.

MANIGAULT: Oh my God.

WHITFIELD: And, he is dealing with winning.

MANIGAULT: Dondre!

WHITFIELD: Has anybody in this audience tell me anything about his policy? The only thing that we have ever heard him speak to is about a stupid wall.

So, let me ask you a question. Most of the things that he has spoken to have been some pretty idiotic things. Now, if you vote for a person like

that, does that make you idiotic?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We got one in the White House right now!

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WHITFIELD: That is just a question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE PROGRAM STAFF: No mic. No mic.

WHITFIELD: Really? So --

PINSKY: Go ahead. Let me get to the audience.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He asked about the policies. Have you read any of his books?

WHIFIELD: What does that have to do with --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Have you read any of them?

WHITFIELD: What is that have to do with his policies?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Because they are outlined in them.

WHIFIELD: No, no, no, no.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Read the book -- Read the book, "Time to Get Tough."

WHITFIELD: No. They are not.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, they are. I have read the book twice.

WHITFIELD: No. They are not. No, they are not.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I have also read "Art of the Deal."

WHITFIELD: You should read it a third time then.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, they are outlined --

WHIFIELD: Or fourth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: All, you just have to do is look at the table of contents. It outlines the war. It outlines the nuke deal.

It all outlines -- It outlines all sorts of things. It outlines the immigration issue, how you go about that. You need to do research and look

at what he has written. Look on his website. The immigration thing is outlined much more detailed than any other candidates --

WHITFIELD: Why has not he laid any of that out during debates?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Please tell me a candidate that has outlined his policy more so than Donald Trump?

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PINSKY: All right, guys, we are going to leave it right there for a second.

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WHITFIELD: Wow!

PINSKY: You know, there is more on this and more on all of this. I am a little reclamp, so to say. We will be right back after this.

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[21:14:18] TRUMP: When Mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. They are not sending you. They are not sending you. They are

sending people that have lots of problems.

They are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime. They are rapists. I made some very strong statements about the crime and the problems that were

happening and I have been proven right. And, many of the people in this audience actually have apologized to me.

I love the people of Mexico. I love the Hispanics. I have thousands of Hispanics right now working for me. Over the years, I have employed tens

of thousands of Hispanics. Many from Mexico. I have unbelievably great relationships. And, in the package that we gave you, you will see there is

a poll and I am number one with Hispanics.

When you get right down to it, we are a nation that speaks English. And, I think while we are in this nation, we should be speaking in English. I

want people to come in to our country legally. I want to have a big, fat, beautiful open door.

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TRUMP: I am leading in every poll. I am leading in every state, by a lot, and nationally by a lot. I have a great relationship to the Republican

Party, to the conservatives, to the evangelicals, to the Tea Party. You probably noticed, right across the board.

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PINSKY: I am back with Sam, Areva, Dondre, Omarosa, Ernie, and we have a studio audience exclusively filled with Donald Trump supporters, tonight.

Now, here is an interesting fact. Donald Trump seems to get a bump in the polls in spite of himself. I want to show you what I mean.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Then he actually announced, and remember, he made those explosive comments about people coming across the Mexican

border saying that a lot of these people were drug dealers and rapists. Everyone said that would be poison to his campaign.

Look what happened to the numbers. It jumped up higher to 12 percent. Suddenly, he was in the game. Then he made those comments about John

McCain saying he was only a war hero because he got captured. Everyone said that is the end of the Trump campaign. Look what happened. The

numbers jumped again and he started leading the race.

And, now, he has made these comments about a breast-feeding woman being disgusting and all the other stuff about women out there, that people said

again, is going to poison his campaign, and look at these latest numbers. Now, he has jumped up to a commanding lead.

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PINSKY: And, he has continued to go up from there with continued , what would be maybe not tolerated by other candidates. Ernie, what is he

tapping into? How does it work?

ERNIE WHITE, CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST: Well, you can hear it right here in this audience? You hear the passion in this audience just because --

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Ernie, I am going to stop you. Sam said -- Sam talked about people being marginalized and he using a language that is divisive. I am

seeing exactly the opposite. That people are unifying behind him.

AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Yes!

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PINSKY: That is what I am seeing.

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SCHACHER: This audience is all Trump supporters.

PINSKY: No. It seems like that numbers proves it --

WHITE: This audience and other audiences are going to prove to you the establishment is in trouble. We are done with the establishment and we are

going to kick them all out of office. This is it. It is over.

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MARTIN: When we look at those numbers, we need to unpack those numbers. What do they really mean?

SCHACHER: Right.

MARTIN: And, what we are learning is that those numbers keep going up amongst a certain group of people. Seniors, white males, and people who

are less than high school educated. It is not a melting pot --

PINSKY: Hang on.

MARTIN: It is not a melting pot of Americans who are supporting Donald Trump and his comments. So, when I hear him call the Hispanics, the

Mexicans, I cringe. Because we have come so far in this country in term of race relations and to have someone run for president, who is going to set

us back 50 years, the civil rights struggles that we have fought to have someone be so demeaning to African-Americans and Latinos is just offensive.

PINSKY: Let us get to the audience. Go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: There is only two ways to become a citizen of this country. Either you are born here or you apply for

citizenship. That is the only way. Now, when a person crosses the border illegally, he just violated federal law. He is a law breaker. He or she

are law breakers. You need to understand that. They are law breakers!

MARTIN: I went to law school, sir. I understand that --

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WHITFIELD: I am glad. Thank you!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: So, you are an attorney! You know what I am talking about.

WHITFIELD: You do not have to explain that to us because we already know that.

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MARTIN: Yes, I do.

PINSKY: OK. But --

MARTIN: I know a little something about the law.

SCHACHER: You brought up him demeaning a number of different people. He also demeans women, which I am really surprised that we have all these

women here. How many women have used Planned Parenthood as a health care service. I have! So, many people are afraid to speak up nowadays, because

people are attributing it to the misinformation about abortion.

News flash: Planned parenthood services, 3 percent goes to abortion, just 3 percent, which is not federally funded. It is privately funded. The

other 97 percent goes to health care screenings, goes to cancer screenings, contraception. It is health care services for millions of women.

And, for Donald Trump to claim that he is for the helping out women and then wants to defund Planned Parenthood? How is that helping out all the

women in this audience? I am surprised.

PINSKY: It is a terrible political hotbed.

SCHACHER: I am surprised.

PINSKY: Listen to what Sam says, because she is right. I have worked around Planned Parenthood for a long time.

SCHACHER: It is amazing.

PINSKY: And, abortion is not part of their deal at all --

SCHACHER: No. It is saving us!

PINSKY: Dondre.

WHITFIELD: Let me just say, you know, the bottom line is that we want a leader that galvanizes us as a nation and not polarizes us. I think the

vast majority of the things that he says are things that we tolerate because you are talking about someone, who is financially independent and

well off. We are talking about a billionaire. Somebody who was not --

WHITE: You are talking about Hillary Clinton.

WHITFIELD: Somebody who is not financially solvent .

MANIGAULT: That is wrong.

[21:20:00] WHITE: $2 billion, Dondre. $2 billion, she got while she was secretary of state.

AUDIENCE STUDIO MEMBERS: Yes!

WHITE: $2 billion, when she cannot find her e-mails anymore! $2 billion and the lady should be in prison. That is who you want to be your

president!

WHITFIELD: I do not want to have to put --

WHITE: That is not a president! That is a criminal!

WHIFIELD: This audience --

WHITE: This audience is perfect. And this audience --

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PINSKY: Let me get to the studio audience. Yes, ma`am.

WHITFIELD: These are -- these are --

PINSKY: Dondre! Yes, ma`am?

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, there is a smorgasbord of comments that have been made since I raised my hand. So, I am going to

start with the 80 percent of women being raped as they cross the border. That number came from a department in DHS. So, I would like to ask you --

PINSKY: Who? Who?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Who do you think --

PINSKY: Areva?

MANIGAULT: Samantha.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Samantha.

SCHACHER: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Who do you think is raping these women?

SCHACHER: Well, I do not know about that statistic. I would like to hear what Areva says, because I am not a lawyer. However, I also know that one

in five women are sexually assaulted and raped on college campuses from very privileged American boys. So, there are a lot of things we can do to

help this country.

And, I am not saying that there is not a problem with immigration. I am not saying that there does not need to be reform. My biggest thing about

Donald Trump is his delivery. I do not like the way he bullies people, at all. I think it creates divisiveness rather than unifying us.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: How about --

MARTIN: And, ma`am, let me answer your question.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK.

MARTIN: You know, Donald Trump is not -- he does not have a monopoly on immigration policy. Everybody that is running for president is talking

about immigration policy. So, when you talk about immigration -- he is talking about building a wall!

He is talking about -- let me finish. He is talking about building a wall and deporting 11 million people. It is the most impractical, the most

idiotic plan ever! It is not an immigration plan!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: In 2007, under speaker Sensenbrenner, they voted to create that wall. It has not been created yet, but they have

collected the tax dollars for it. Now, the thing about Trump is this. He has told the truth. And, every time -- every time -- we will go back to

that 80 percent.

SCHACHER: He has not told the truth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, he has.

PINSKY: Hold on. Hold on.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, he has.

PINSKY: Hold on.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: yes, he has. No -- just a moment. Trump has told the truth, because when the media claim, "Oh, people are not

being murdered in the U.S., he started parading those families in front of the media and they shut up.

SCHACHER: He has been called out online left and right --

PINSKY: Hang on. Hang on. You do not look like a Trump supporter to me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am a Trump supporter.

PINSKY: When people think about Trump supporters -- hold this for me, Ernie. When people think about Trump supporters, I am not sure they think

about you. What is he tapping into? Help me understand this. Just in a word or in a sentence --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Truth.

PINSKY: Truth.

SCHACHER: That is not true!

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: And, let me ask this. Let me ask this. Have you felt like your truth has been sort of marginalized or you have been shut down by the

current sort of prevailing --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: The current politicians have said what they needed to say during elections to get elected. Once they are

elected, they do not take your phone calls.

PINSKY: Wait. No. No.

SCHACHER: I agree. I actually agree with you --

PINSKY: Hang on. Hang on. It seems me --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, they do not -

PINSKY: Hang on. Hang on.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: They are not telling the truth.

PINSKY: There is some feeling he is tapping into.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.

PINSKY: What is the feeling?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Truth.

PINSKY: No, no. What is the feeling?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No.

PINSKY: Are you angry?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am angry because of this --

PINSKY: OK. It is angry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. OK.

PINSKY: And, what are you angry about? You are angry that you are not being heard --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No.

PINSKY: And he is speaking for you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No.

PINSKY: What?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am angry because we are being lied to.

PINSKY: Who? By whom?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: By the current group of politicians.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: They have been --

PINSKY: Hold on. Hold on.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: They have been --

PINSKY: So, you feel like you are hearing the truth from -- I am trying to understand what --

SCHACHER: But, he is caught on lies left and right.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Let me give you an example. Let me give you an example.

PINSKY: You know what? I think -- I think --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Right now --

PINSKY: Hang on. Hang on.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Right now --

PINSKY: Do we have time for an example? Tell me, control room.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is short.

PINSKY: OK, you read that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is short.

PINSKY: You read that for me. Just read that? See what is on that prompter there.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.

PINSKY: Go ahead and read that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Next, Donald Trump and his most outrageous remarks about his fellow candidates after the break.

PINSKY: Yes. That is right. Back after this.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Back after this.

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TRUMP: He is not a war hero.

FRANK LUNTZ, POLLSTER: He is a war hero.

TRUMP: He is a war hero --

LUNTZ: Five and a half years ago --

TRUMP: He is a war hero because he was captured. I like people who were not captured, OK? I hate to tell you.

(LAUGHING)

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TRUMP: Your senator, what a stiff. What a stiff. Lindsey Graham. You have this guy, Lindsey Graham, a total lightweight.

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TRUMP: I watch this idiot Lindsey Graham on television tonight and he calls me a jackass. He is a jackass. I see Rick Perry the other day, he

put glasses on so people will think he is smart. And, it just does not work. You know, people can see through the glasses.

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TRUMP: I tweeted that Rick Perry should have to have an IQ test before getting on the debate stage.

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TRUMP: Jeb bush. I am not a fan of Jeb Bush. Because Jeb Bush is in favor of common core and he is weak on immigration. Those are two bad

things. The last thing we need is another Bush.

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TRUMP: I would never give up my microphone. I thought that was disgusting. That showed such weakness. The way he was taken away by two

young women.

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TRUMP: You look at Hillary Clinton, and I have said, she is the worst secretary of state in the history of this country.

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PINSKY: Never at a loss for words when it comes to characterizing his opponents. Now, tonight, every member of our studio audience is a Trump

supporter.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

I am back with Sam, Areva, Dondre, Omarosa, and joining us now, Ryan Sorba, Head of the Young Conservatives of California. Now, politics, everyone

trash talks, you know, a bit.

But when Donald Trump trash talks, people seem to like, like you heard, this woman I was speaking to, her anger gets mobilized. She feels -- I

think people feel shut down today.

SCHACHER: But he is hurling insults. He throws more shade than trees, Donald Trump.

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: But, I think --

SCHACHER: Yes.

PINSKY: But, listen to what she told us. She said, "I am angry. I am angry. And, when he speaks, I feel like it is my truth coming out and it

mobilizes.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

MARTIN: But you know what -- let us talk about the truth, Dr. Drew. Calling women pigs, dogs, making personal attacks, is that really the

truth? That you want your president -- what is truthful about that? That is nothing but gutter politics.

[21:30:00] It is OK to attack someone on their policies. It is OK to attack someone on their record. And, it is even OK to attack someone on

their personal choices. But, he is attacking his constituents. Who goes after the largest constituents that you need to win? African-Americans,

Latinos, women. That does not seem very bright to me.

So, everyone is talking about, this man is so smart. He does not seem very smart to me to attack the very people that you need to support you, to go

to the polls and vote for you. Because popularity is not mobilization. It is not getting the electoral votes, and it is not winning elections. It is

just being popular like high school.

PINSKY: Dondre, you agree with what she said?

WHITFIELD: The audience is an extension of who he is. You know, each time --

PINSKY: The woman I was just standing next to did not seem like somebody I expected to be a Trump supporter --

WHITFIELD: Each time I have made a point, I have gotten spoken over. And, what is interesting is that, you know, the woman who spoke said that, you

know, he was tapping into truth.

What is interesting is, is that every time I hear him speak, he is tapping into untruths. He was talking about doctor -- OK, Donald, relax. He was

talking about Dr. Carson being an "OK Doctor." Dr. Carson did the first separation of conjoining twins. OK? Are you kidding?

MARTIN: Renown.

SCHACHER: Renown.

WHITFIELD: Renown. Do your research.

PINSKY: Carson is a phenomenal.

SCHACHER: He also said David -- he also told David Letterman that he does not get his clothes made in China when David Letterman called him on live

television, "Oh, wait! Your ties are made from China." He lies, people, just like all the other politicians. OK?

PINSKY: Yes, sir.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We do not think he lies. My name is Jimmy. My son was murdered by an illegal alien that was brought into the

country at 4 years old, the Dreamers, the DACA recipients. He was here 15 years later, so that lets us know, you cannot even bring over the ones that

are babies.

What are you going to say? The one killed my son 15 years later. He was in the county jail. He was released on a Saturday night. He killed my son

the same day he was out, because illegal aliens, when they are in jail, the gangbangers are ordered out by the Mexican mafia and to commit crimes in

the black neighborhood.

He was in my neighborhood, and my son, like we all -- all our kids do, walking down the street, coming from the mall, was approached and was shot

in the stomach while he was laying on the ground, according to the coroner, with his hands up, and he shot him through his hand into his head and he

killed him.

So, when I heard Donald Trump say he wanted to go after the gangbangers and the murders, he said rapists on when he came out. But, I am going to tell

you, they are murders, too, you know.

And, I always ask people, what would you do if somebody killed somebody in your family? What would you expect of somebody running for president to do

if someone killed somebody in your family? See, that is the big question.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

WHITFIELD: And, let me say this. To you, sir, I absolutely -- you have my deepest empathy. And, one of the things that makes a leader a true leader

is being able to empathize with the people that they serve. Unfortunately, Donald Trump does not serve anyone but himself.

MANIGAULT: That is so untrue.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is serving me. We believe in Donald Tump because like you, you believe in fantasy people.

WHITFIELD: No, sir.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: The republicans who are promising you like the sprinkler dust.

WHITFIELD: No, sir.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Donald Trump is saying, vote me in, and I will make America great. Make it safe, bring jobs -- bring jobs back for

Americans. Take care of the trade deficits. Do everything that we want. You do not want it, but we do, OK? What would you do? Ask me again, what

would you do if an illegal alien murdered your son?

WHITFIELD: Let me ask you --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No, what would you do? What would you do?

WHIFIELD: I would be just as upset as you are.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK, then.

WHIFIELD: But you know what? I am not talking that way. I am not -- see, you are taking this, me speaking against Donald, not Mr. Trump. Donald --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No. You are saying something is wrong with me.

WHITFIELD: You are speaking -- No. No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: You are saying something is wrong with us.

WHIFIELD: I did not say that there were something wrong with you. that no, sir.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Because we feel like --

WHITFIELD: No, sir. No, sir. That is not what I said.

PINSKY: We cannot solve this. We cannot -- we are not going to solve this, I am afraid, tonight. Again, deepest sympathy.

WHITFIELD: Absolutely.

PINSKY: You understand what he is saying?

WHITFIELD: Of course. I said that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you.

(AUDENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Thank you, sir. We got to take a break. Is that right? Yes, all right.

Next up, we got a lot more to talk about and we are going to hear a lot more from my audience. I got my panel here. I also have the biggest

social media fans. They are here.

Yes, and they have been listening to this entire conversation and they are -- they are ready to rock. We will talk to them. We will get Ryan

involved. Be back after the break.

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TRUMP: We are led by very, very stupid people. Stupid people.

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TRUMP: Our leaders are stupid. Our politicians are stupid.

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TRUMP: I have a lot of friends in China. They think our representatives, they think our politicians are the dumbest men on earth.

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TRUMP: We have such stupid leadership.

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TRUMP: How stupid are they?

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TRUMP: We do not tax, because we have people that are stupid. We are being led by stupid people. We are being led by people that do not have a

clue they are incompetent.

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TRUMP: How stupid are our leaders? How stupid are these politicians? Honestly, I think we are led by stupid people.

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PINSKY: I am back with San, Areva, Dondre -- Did I get it right? Dondre?

WHIFIELD: Yes, sir. Two syllables

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: Dondre. Omarosa, Ryan.

MARTIN: That is cool.

PINSKY: Joining us, I have two of Trump`s biggest supporters on Skype. Diamond and Silk, the "Stump for Trump" women. Now, ladies, you have been

listening to all of this. Who do you feel is Trump`s biggest competition out there?

LYNETTE "DIAMOND" HARDAWAT, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER (via skype): He do not have no competition. He do not have competition.

ROCHELLE "SILK" RICHARDSON, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER (via skype): He do not have.

DIAMOND: Yes.

PINSKY: Did you hear anything from my panel or the audience that you wanted to comment upon?

DIAMOND: Well, I absolutely love the fact that people are waking up and seeing what is real out here. I like the fact that we are not being

bothered by this political babble jabble because people are understanding these politician is language and we do not want that language. We do not

want to eat that kind of language no more.

[21:40:00] PINSKY: Now, Diamond, Areva and I were having a very heated conversation during the break about whether or not Donald Trump is a

racist. And, I said -- I think most politicians have narcissism. And, when I say narcissist, I am not necessarily saying something pejorative.

It is just a quality that people have to have if they are going to be in that kind of job. But sometimes people who have narcissism, they think in

very fragmented ways, in a very us/them kind of way. Do you think he has that kind of thinking and do you think he has a racist tone to it?

DIAMOND: He is not a racist. And, let me just say this. He is leading -- he is leading with the African-American. He is not a racist.

SILK: Yes. That is right.

DIAMOND: So, let us not call him that.

SILK: That is right.

DIAMOND: What he is, is real.

SILK: That is right.

DIAMOND: What he wants is to bring America back this way.

SILK: That is right.

DIAMOND: What he wants is to keep us safe and create jobs for America.

SILK: Yes.

PINSKY: Hang on a second. Ladies, hold on. You are getting Omarosa out of her seat. What do you want to say, Omarosa? What do you want to say?

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

MANIGAULT: Listen, whenever you see throw around words like racism, misogynist, bully, that is -- seriously, I hear that more from Areva, more

from Sam than I hear anything else. Let us try to finish this show without you using the word racist and bully.

MARTIN: That is because it is real.

SCHACHER: Well --

(CROSSTALK)

MANIGAULT: He is not a racist, a misogynist or a bully. He is real.

MARTIN: When a white man says he does not want black people to count his money, he only wants people that wear yarmulkes to count his money. Is

that not a racist statement?

MANIGAUILT: Areva. Where would you pull that statement from? It is not true.

DIAMOND: Yes.

MARTIN: Do you want the president of the United States making such inflammatory statements?

MANIGAULT: Areva, do you just make this up?

PINSKY: One at a time.

MANIGAULT: It is not true.

PINSKY: One at a time.

MARTIN: The fact that it offends me as an African-American and other African-Americans is a problem! And, I want my president to be concerned

about how I feel as a black woman.

PINSKY: Ryan, is that an accurate statement that Areva --

RYAN SORBA, HEAD OF THE YOUNG CONSERVATIVES OF CALIFORNIA: No. Absolutely not.

PINSKY: How did we know that? Why not?

SORBA: Look.

PINSKY: Did somebody make it up in the media?

SORBA: No.

PINSKY: Where did it come from?

SORBA: OK. Donald Trump said that there are illegal aliens that commit a greater number of crimes than American citizens. It is true! And one out

of every five illegal aliens that crosses the border that is picked up by I.C.E. has a record, OK?

And, that is who he was referring to. And, the media wants to jump on this whole racism narrative to shut down anybody who legitimately disagrees with

them in order to just do it using ad hominem attacks. That is number one. Number two, what about this, Joe Biden called Jewish people shylocks. What

about that?

PINSKY: I want Diamond in here. Diamond, go ahead. Finish up.

DIAMOND: Well, listen. Do not call my man no racist. He loves all people!

(LAUGHING)

PINSKY: OK.

DIAMOND: He likes all people.

PINSKY: Hold on, I want to get -- ladies, hold on. Ladies, please, I want to get a comment from the audience. Yes, ma`am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hi. I just want to say that I am really proud of Donald Trump because I came in here from Switzerland in

1986. My dad is American. My mom is Swiss. And, I remember when New York was the big apple. Not when it was ground zero. Not when America was

stigmatized by terror.

And, I watched Donald Trump rise and I saw his success. And, we need somebody in the White House leading this country who understands

accountability. Who understands how to hold people accountable. Donald Trump is in the fabric of our society.

We have watched him grow on television. We know that when he says something, whether he means it or whether he does not mean it, Donald Trump

is going to lead this country. Immigration is costing us enormous amounts of money. 93 million Americans are unemployed. I believe Donald Trump is

going to make America great again with just --

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Sam, go ahead.

SCHACHER: Another --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- and he is going to weed out all the troublemakers and hold them accountable.

PINSKY: OK. Sam.

SCHACHER: Another important fabric of our society is a lot of grassroots efforts, a lot of activists who are trying to promote equality and advocate

for equality. I wanted to ask Omarosa, what do you think?

MANIGAULT: Yes.

SCHACHER: Because I know you are a big supporter of the "Black Lives Matter" movement.

MANIGAULT: Yes. Yes.

SCHACHER: Which you should be, which I am, which I feel like everybody should be. It is about equality. How did that make you feel when Donald

Trump said that it promotes hate?

MANIGAULT: When he was talking about "Black Lives Matter," he saw a video where there were members of the "Black Lives Matter" movement talking about

killing police officers. And, that was specifically what he was addressing, Samantha. It is not defendable to ever talking about killing

police officers.

SCHACHER: Of course.

MANIGAULT: And, yes, "Black Lives Matter" is an important group.

SCHACHER: That is what he say.

MANIGAUILT: But that fragment is especially what he was talking about.

SCHACHER: He did not talk about the fragment.

PINSKY: I have to go out. I have to go out. I am sorry, ladies.

MANIGAULT: I know that what he was addressing.

PINSKY: Thank you.

SCHACHER: But that is not what he said.

PINSKY: Audience, hold tight. Hold tight. We are going to continue. We got more to go. Just a couple things that are sort of occurring to me at

this point. One is, the woman that I stood next to whose anger I could feel, I think there is this sense -- you know, what I think about as a

clinician, when people feel shut down, which is what your anger was -- where are you? Are you out there? There you are.

Your anger has been shut down, has not it? Right? And, now it has been mobilized, right? And, there is something happens in therapy, is when

people -- you sort of bring out their real feelings, they get very enthusiastic about those feelings and they look for people that sort of

reinforce their sense of who they really are and what they really feel.

[21:45:00] I feel like Trump has sort of tapped into that. There is a lot of people that have felt shut down, and now they are speaking up. And,

they are speaking up loud and maybe feels a little excessive. That is what happens in real life in therapy and it feels like that kind of phenomenon.

He somehow has tapped into. We are going to keep this going back, after this.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

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(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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TRUMP: I love Mexican people. I have such a great relationship to Mexican -- I hire thousands. People, the rich Mexicans, they are great people. I

love China. I love the people of China.

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TRUMP: Saudi Arabia, I like the Saudis, they are very nice. I make a lot of money with them. They buy all sorts of my stuff.

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[21:50:00] TRUMP: I love the evangelicals.

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TRUMP: I love the Tea Party. I love the Tea Party.

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TRUMP: So, Kanye West, I love him.

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PINSKY: Back with Sam, Areva, Dondre, Omarosa, and Ryan. And, I wanted to get my comment from the audience member who was standing there at the

break. Yes, ma`am. Go right ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, I would just like to say that Donald Trump is a marketing genius.

(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)

SCHACHER: He is. He is.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: You know what I do every morning? The first thing I do, I get on my Twitter page and see what he tweeted to

me. He is going to make America great again.

PINSKY: But does marketing genius equate with a great political leader? Is that your --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Absolutely. Absolutely.

PINSKY: OK.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is one and the same. He is not politically correct. He is not going to be like the other politicians. He

is going to be the leader!

PINSKY: Well, that is for sure!

(LAUGHING)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is going to turn this country around! He is a strong leader and that is what we need to bring the ship

back to harbor. He is going to do it!

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: And, Ryan, people are feeling shut down and marginalized and like their voices have not been heard, but how is he, you know, what is it that

he is tapping into from your perspective?

SORBA: Like it was said, he is tapping into the truth. He is not afraid to tell the truth. He is not edited. He is not scripted. When people are

edited and scripted, they seem fake. People trust them.

PINSKY: Why are not they making more of the fact that he is not incumbent -- we have such a problem with special interests and money. Why is not

more of the story being made about him not being incumbent upon special interests?

SCHACHER: I like that.

PINSKY: That is the one thing. I do too.

SCHACHER: He will sell me on that.

PINSKY: That is the one thing.

SORBA: I mean I think it means that he wants to get his agenda, which is America. I think he is very loyal to the United States.

PINSKY: OK. Let us get more audience. Yes, ma`am?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, Trump is not a wimp and our country is becoming wimpy.

SCHACHER: Oh, that is polite. See, that is exactly why I do not like Donald Trump. I do not like the name calling. You can --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We need him because he is like -- she said, he is an alpha male. He is tough. He is respected.

SCHACHER: Oh, my gosh!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is respected! He unites us. He is motivated. He is powerful, and we can be the same again!

SCHACHER: Calling people wimps, calling people names is not the precedent that I want for a president --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is true, though!

SCHACHER: Oh, come on! You can disagree --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And he comes out with it.

SCHACHER: You can disagree with someone is politics, but to have the lack of character to resort to name calling is not what we want in our world

leader.

PINSKY: I want to give Dondre a chance.

WHITFIELD: This is exactly what I am talking about. Our president is supposed to be a model that we should all be able to mirror.

SCHACHER: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: I do not want to have to put my 11-year-old daughter to bed because I do not want her to watch the State of the Union Address.

PINSKY: Diamond and Silk, you are still --

MARTIN: And, we have to count the "stupid" words.

PINSKY: Diamond and Silk, you are still out there. Do you have a comment on what my group is saying up here?

DIAMOND: Yes. Listen, we need somebody -- we do not need no soft-spoken president. We need somebody where their voice resonates. When you speak,

you will stand up and listen. That is why we look at Donald Trump. And, that is why we stump for Trump.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Let me hear from the audience. Yes, ma`am. Go right ahead. Please. Yes, ma`am. Audience.

CHANEL, STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: My name is Chanel and I am representing the black community. We have been devastated. We have been devastated

with the lack of jobs, with immigration. We have been run over. Donald Trump is our new future. Donald Trump is our hope.

Donald Trump is also bringing us together, regardless of the color of our skin as American citizens. That is the only way we can get back in order

is if we can stand together. This present administration is not working in the favor of American citizens.

DIAMOND: That is right.

CHANEL: They are destroying the constitution. They are tearing this country down. We need somebody that is going to be strong, stand as a man,

and help us recognize and put the constitution and illustrate the constitution, what it was reign for, and Donald Trump is the person. He is

going to make America great again, regardless of the color of your skin. Regardless of the color of your skin.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: Diamond and Silk going nuts out there. But, Areva, going nuts here in my panel.

MARTIN: First of all, you know, with all due respect to that audience member, no one voted for her to represent the African-American community.

And as far as the African-American community goes, 90 percent of the African-American community is -- has favorable ratings for President Barack

Obama.

And, the ratings for Donald Trump is somewhere around 3 percent. So, to say that African-Americans are solidly behind Donald Trump pertinently

wrong. It is wrong. It is wrong. It is just false. African-Americans are for Barack Obama.

PINSKY: Last thought. Last thought?

MANIGAULT: Areva --

PINSKY: Quick. Omarosa, we are very tight on time.

MANIGAULT: But can we just acknowledge that Donald Trump is a success story, an American success story?

MARTIN: That was not the comment.

MANIGAULT: He is a very successful business man.

MARTIN: The comment was he was --

(CROSSTALK)

MANIGAULT: But, you are always tearing him down. He has positive attributes.

MARTIN: That was not the comment.

MANIGAULT: And he is a natural leader.

MARTIN: Check for the fact. That was not the comment.

MANIGAULT: The fact is he is a success story and we need a leader who is strong and successful.

PINSKY: How many time do I have? Hold on. OK. Yes, sir? Real quick?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: First off, you talk there -- you want to sit there and say he is a bully. You just made comment up there to

Trump supporters, they are mostly white, you know they are under high school --

[21:55:04] SCHACHER: I did not say that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Whoever said it.

MARTIN: I said it.

SCHACHER: I did not say that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I heard it up there.

(CROSSTAKL)

MARTIN: I said it because it is a fact.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, I will tell you, you want to talk about the GOP knuckle draggers. Like somehow or another, we are

voting for Trump just because we are angry, we have not really thought anything out yet.

We are just angry. We are mad. We do not know why, like our brains are on holiday vacation. We have looked at Trump. We like Trump. We like his

policy. Our brains are turned on. We are angry but our brains our turned on.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

PINSKY: And, we are going to have to take a break. We will be right back after this.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

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(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

PINSKY: So, I will just say good night. Thank you all for participating. We will see you at the debates on CNN on Wednesday. Is that right,

Wednesday night?

[22:00:00] AUDIENCE STUDIO MEMBERS: Yes.

PINSKY: The 16th. DVR us, then you can watch us. Thank you all. Thank you all, panel.

(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)

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