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White House Secures Senate Votes For Iran Deal; Pastor Exposed As Ashley Madison User Commits Suicide; What To Expect At Today's Apple Event; United Airlines CEO Resigns Amid Corruption Investigation. Aired 7:30-8a ET

Aired September 9, 2015 - 07:30   ET

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[07:31:33] MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Hillary Clinton trying to shake off the e-mail scandal that is rocking her campaign. She is apologizing for using a private server during her time as secretary of state telling ABC News, quote, "I'm sorry about that" and also telling her Facebook followers she takes full responsibility for her decision and taking nothing for granted from her supporters.

Jeb Bush meanwhile saying his brother, George, should have shown greater fiscal restraint as president. On the "Late Show" with Stephen Colbert, Bush says his brother should have brought the hammer down on congressional Republicans. Jeb Bush is set to roll out major tax reform today.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump is getting set to headline a rally against the Iran deal. He is now saying he would accept some migrants from Syria on humanitarian grounds. Be sure to tune to NEW DAY in our 7 a.m. hour, Donald Trump will join us live.

Investigators continuing the search for three suspected Illinois cop killers setting a road block after a promising lead turns up nothing. Police tracked down three men captured on home surveillance near the crime scene.

They were able to confirm those three men did not play a role in the death of Lt. Joe Gliniewicz. The 52-year-old was gunned down last week in the line of duty. Police are now looking at DNA found at the crime scene and conducting more interviews.

A royal record is about to be set this afternoon at 12:30 p.m. Eastern. That is when Great Britain's Queen Elizabeth II will have become the longest ruling monarch in her nation's history. She'll have reigned for 23,226 days, that's 63 years and seven months. That beats previous record that was held by her great, great grandmother, Queen Victoria.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: That's incredible.

PEREIRA: Isn't that something?

CAMEROTA: Yes. Wow. All right, thanks, Michaela. So President Obama has now secured 41 Senate votes in support of the Iran nuclear deal, which is just enough to preserve the agreement. The battle continues, GOP presidential candidate, Donald Trump and Ted Cruz will hold a rally against the deal while Hillary Clinton will give a speech in support of it.

So joining us to discuss all of this is Republican Texas Congressman Michael McCaul. He is the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. He also serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee. Congressman, thanks so much for being here on NEW DAY.

REP. MICHAEL MCCAUL (R), TEXAS: Good morning, thanks for having me.

CAMEROTA: You call the Iran deal a dangerous agreement. The administration says it's the opposite. This is the only way to monitor and have oversight of what Iran is up to for the next ten years.

MCCAUL: You know, I chaired a meeting and we heard from Rudy Giuliani who knows this issue better than most. I think the concern is to allow them to go forward under the nuclear program under the guise is a poor decision.

Hundreds of billions of dollars in sanctions, which will go to the largest state sponsored terror. They have killed Americans on the battlefield. They have killed Jewish centers in South America.

I'm concerned as chairman of Homeland Security what that means for the American people, not to mention, it does nothing to entertain the intercontinental ballistic missile technology, which designed to hit the United States.

CAMEROTA: But Congressman, I mean, the administration wouldn't disagree with any of that. They know that Iran has been a bad actor on so many things. But they say that this is the deal that would finally allow oversight for inspectors, the IAEA to get in there and that makes it safer.

MCCAUL: Well, inspections that don't include military sites, these secret deals with the IAEA in Iran that we don't know what is in them that allows them to self-inspect. The 24-hour to 24-day notice rule, it raises all sorts of questions with respect to verification and accountability here. We don't have enough assurances -- look, I understand he's got the votes. We had a vigorous debate in the House on this --

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: The votes are somewhat beside the point, though, right, because you'd have to override his veto. This is about having consensus, which is something that Congress fought very hard for it that they should have a role in it. Now you have it and we are all playing out the process and that's a good for democracy.

But first of all, the White House certainly will take exception to many of the things that you are saying. I'm sure you are hearing it from your brothers and sisters on the left of the aisle all the time and from the White House. But here's what I don't get, you said it's naive to think this is a good deal? Isn't it naive to suggest to people that there is a better deal or better alternative than this deal? If so, what is it?

MCCAUL: First, many on the other side of the aisle do oppose it. Particularly Senator Schumer came out against it. All along, we passed these sanctions over the last decade to bring them to the table and dismantle their nuclear weapons program. That is not done here. We believe that tougher sanctions can bring forth a better deal.

CUOMO: But your partners do not, right? That's one of the things that gets left out all the time that we hear from the secretary of state, the other people at the table, Colin Powell, of your party. Your partners were not. Those partners, China, Russia, India, want trade, don't want sanctions. We are going to go around them. Do you ignore that in your analysis and if so, why?

MCCAUL: I agree with the prime minister of Israel when I met with him last May that we can get a better deal at the table. I don't think it's a good deal. It's a dangerous deal.

CUOMO: But what is better than this? What is giving you some access to a process that was, as Colin Powell says, on a superhighway. That Iran was on a superhighway to getting a nuclear weapon.

MCCAUL: The sanctions were working and it brought them to the table although they lifted some of the sanctions. They were in fact working. The better deal is, look, if you want a peaceful nuclear energy program, we will provide it to you, but take away your ability to do that.

Because if you allow them to go forward with that program, it guarantees by the end of ten years, you'll have a nuclear Iran. The neighbors in the region do not support this, particularly the Saudis.

CAMEROTA: The critic sanctions weren't working in terms of keeping them from amassing centrifuges. They were able to do a lot towards their goal, if it was a nuclear weapon even with sanctions. As Chris said, the allies weren't going along with sanctions anymore.

CUOMO: The global consensus is in favor of this deal, outside the United States, there's much more proximity on this, if anything.

MCCAUL: Those who want to make money off Iran, yes, they do support that. I have been in Europe and I've seen that. It's interesting how the partners in the region, particularly whether it's the Saudis. All the neighbors in the region are very much opposed to the deal.

They think and they have told me personally that they think it will spark a nuclear arms race in the Middle East because if Iran can go forward with their pathway for a bomb then the Saudis want it as well. The Turks will want their bomb. The Egyptians theirs, it has a cascading effect there that will be a dangerous proposition.

CAMEROTA: Congressman, you mentioned this hearing that you held at the 9/11 Memorial yesterday about the lessons learned since 9/11. What is the take away?

MCCAUL: Well, we heard from the heroes, Mayor Giuliani, the firefighters about taking the city that you are in right now from the ashes, out of the ashes to bring Americans together. We'll never forget that day. We don't want it to happen again, either.

We talked about the new challenges in front of us, how this threat evolved since 9/11 from Bin Laden, you know, couriers to now a new generation of terrorist that is use the internet in a savvy way to radicalize individuals in the United States who don't have to travel to Syria and Iraq and come back here.

I think that is the fourth of July plot, all those plots were through individuals in Syria, sending directives over the internet. That's the new kind of warfare, new kind of terrorism that we have. It's very hard -- it's a very difficult challenge for law enforcement, FBI and Homeland to stop.

CAMEROTA: It sure is. Congressman Michael McCaul, thanks so much for sharing all of your thoughts with us on NEW DAY. Great to see you.

MCCAUL: Thanks, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Let's get to Michaela.

PEREIRA: A sobering story, a pastor, a husband, a father, commits suicide after hackers revealed that he had signed on the infidelity web site, Ashley Madison. Ahead, an exclusive, emotional interview with his family, who wants to share a powerful message with you.

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PEREIRA: A family rocked by tragedy in the wake of the Ashley Madison scandal is speaking out. New Orleans Pastor John Gibson committed suicide after hackers identified him as a member of that cheating site.

CNN sat down exclusively with Gibson's wife and family. CNN's Laurie Segall is here now with their emotional message. I can't believe they were able to speak about this.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is unbelievable. The hack wasn't victimless. They are real families with real pain and real loss. One of them sat down with me and opened up to me during that time of pain. Take a look.

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SEGALL (voice-over): A pastor, a husband, a father of two, a seminary professor with a sense of humor.

TREY GIBSON, SON OF JOHN GIBSON: My dad was a great man. He was a great man with struggles. My dad reached a point of such hopelessness and despair that he took his own life. SEGALL: It was six days after hackers exposed the names of millions signed up for Ashley Madison, a web site for people seeking affairs. Gibson's name was on the list.

CHRISTI GIBSON, WIFE OF JOHN GIBSON: I came home from work and I began to notice clues around the house that things were not what they were supposed to be. Eventually, I discovered him and I was -- it was a moment I've -- that life doesn't prepare you for. How do you tell your kids that their dad is gone and that he took his own life?

CALLIE GIBSON, DAUGHTER OF JOHN GIBSON: I think that the hardest thing for me to deal with was that he honestly doubted the fact that I would love him enough.

SEGALL: In his suicide note, Gibson wrote about being on Ashley Madison.

(on camera): Do you mind sharing a little bit of what he said in that note?

CHRISTI GIBSON: He talked about his depression. He talked about having his name on there and he said he was very, very sorry. He poured his life into other people. Somehow or other, he couldn't extend that to himself.

[07:45:09] SEGALL (voice-over): Facing the harsh reality of loss, Christi says there is also forgiveness.

CHRISTI GIBSON: It wasn't so bad that we wouldn't have forgiven it. So many people said that to us. For John, it carried with him such a shame and he just couldn't see that.

SEGALL: With a hack that left 32 million names of potential adulterers exposed, Christi has a message for communities grappling with infidelity.

CHRISTI GIBSON: Don't underestimate the power of love. Nothing, nothing is worth the loss of a father and a husband and a friend. It just didn't merit it. It didn't merit it at all.

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PEREIRA: My goodness, Laurie, I can't believe she had the composure to say that? Did she address the infidelity?

SEGALL: She did. This is betrayal. It hurts the family. Nothing is worth the life of a husband or the life of a father.

PEREIRA: What about other legal repercussions? Is there anymore fall out that we are hearing about these names being posted to the public?

SEGALL: You have police in Toronto investigating two links to suicide that is could be linked to Ashley Madison. You have those in the United States and Toronto. Those on the list with hackers trying to extort them saying you got to pay me this amount or I'm going to put even more information about you out there. PEREIRA: Hackers now have this in their conscience. Laurie Segall, thank you so much for this report -- Chris.

CUOMO: Assuming they have a conscience.

Apple CEO Tim Cook getting ready to unveil a new line of iPhones, but could another big Apple announcement steal the show? We have a preview of today's big reveal.

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PEREIRA: CNN money now, chief business correspondent, Christine Romans, in the Money Center, a big day for Apple. What are we expecting here?

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: You know, Michaela, the safest bet seems to be new versions of the iPhone 6 and 6S, but here is where it gets interesting. Imagine talking to your TV?

An updated Apple TV with Siri-like controls that let you tell your television what to do, that could be revealed. The biggest surprise could be a bigger iPad, a size between the current one and a Macbook. So watch this space, we'll know this afternoon.

The other business story, the CEO of United Airlines forced to resign. United says this is after their own internal investigation sparked by a probe into United's relationship with David Sampson, who stepped down during the bridgegate scandal.

The probe is whether United added a flight to his vacation home in South Carolina in exchange for favorable treatment at Newark airport, a flight dubbed as the chairman's flight -- Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right, Christine. A stunning statistic in today's "New Day New You," half of Americans have diabetes or pre-diabetes. Diabetes numbers are finally starting to plateau in the U.S. after two decades on the rise. The study suggests that government regulation of food, nutrition, and exercise programs to fight obesity and diabetes are starting to pay off -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Donald Trump takes on the Black Lives Matter Movement and he has some surprising views on Europe's migrant crisis. His campaign is here to discuss it all.

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CLINTON: I could have and should have done a better job. I'm sorry about that. I take responsibility.

TRUMP: If I win, I will tell you something, a lot of different things will be happening in this country.

BUSH: I don't think Barack Obama has bad motives. I just think he's wrong on a lot of issues.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kim Davis is free!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The reality is what law did she break?

KIM DAVIS: His people have rallied, and you are a strong people!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I opened up the cover of my window and just saw flames on the engine.

UNIDENTIFIED CALLER: Passengers literally running for their lives.

PEREIRA: Crime in New York City is creeping up, is the end of stop and frisk to blame? New York City Mayor Bill De Blasio joins us live.

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CUOMO: Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Wednesday, September 9th, 8:00 in the east. So a day after insisting she had nothing to apologize for, Hillary Clinton did what? She apologized. The Democratic front-runner told ABC News and others and Facebook followers that she takes full responsibility for using a private e- mail server as secretary of state.

CAMEROTA: Clinton is not the only candidate making some candid disclosures on national television, Jeb Bush admitting to Stephen Colbert that he thinks his brother George W. made some big mistakes.

Let's begin with CNN's senior Washington correspondent, Jeff Zeleny. What's the latest, Jeff?

JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. How many ways can you say I'm sorry? Hillary Clinton is now trying to show us. She's going further than ever before in talking about that private e-mail account she used outside the channels of government when she was secretary of state.

Until now we've heard her express regret, but she stopped short of saying she was sorry for her actions. In an attempt to turn this page from the controversy that's really shaken her campaign, she's now saying it very directly as she did last night to ABC's David Mirror.

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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Even though it was allowed, I should have use two accounts, one for personal and one for work-related e-mails. That was a mistake. I'm sorry about that. I take full responsibility. And I'm trying to be as transparent as I possibly can.

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ZELENY: But that wasn't all, a few hours later she amplified this in a message on her Facebook page and in a note to supporters, saying, I know this is a complex story. I could have and should have done a better job answering questions earlier.

Now, we have seen her campaign strategy shifting in realtime from being defiant to suddenly being contrite. She's given more interviews in the last week than during the first five months of her campaign combined. But in that ABC News interview she grew emotional when asked about her mother who died in 2011.

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CLINTON: She told me every day, you've got to get up and fight for what you believe in no matter how hard it is. And I think about her a lot. I miss her a lot. I wish she were here with me. And I remember that. I don't want to just fight for me. I can have a perfectly fine life not being president. I'm going to fight for people like my mother, who need somebody in their corner.

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ZELENY: And today, she is moving on to foreign policy. She is delivering a speech later this morning explaining her strong support for the Iran nuclear agreement.