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Sandra Bland Case Reviewed; Obama Kenya Trip; Trump Goes to the Border; Greek Lawmakers Approve Debt Deal; Security Concerns for Obama's Kenya Trip; FBI: Chattanooga Suspect Was Homegrown Violent Extremist; Donald Trump Defends Tough Talk. Aired 1-2a ET

Aired July 22, 2015 - 01:00   ET

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[01:00:10] JOHN VAUSE, CNN HOST: New claims from Texas police that Sandra Bland who was found dead in her prison cell after a traffic stop had attempted suicide before.

LYNDA KINKADE, CNNI HOST: Also ahead, security concerns before Barack Obama's trip to Kenya. What the U.S. military is doing about it.

VAUSE: And Republican presidential frontrunner, the Donald talks strategy, polls and that cell phone incident.

KINKADE: We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and around the world. I'm Lynda Kinkade.

VAUSE: Great to have you with us. I'm John Vause. This is CNN NEWSROOM.

We start this hour in Texas with new developments in the case of a 28- year-old woman found dead in her jail cell.

KINKADE: That's right. Authorities have released documents just a few hours ago that show Sandra Bland told the jail she had tried previously to take her owned life. Police say Bland committed suicide by hanging herself three days after her arrest.

VAUSE: Her family says they don't believe that. Her district attorney says preliminary autopsy results show that Bland had marijuana in her system and cutting scars on her arm.

Ryan Young has more now including some discrepancies on the jail intake form.

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RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Every time an inmate is booked in here to the jail they fill out a form. And of course, the inmates have to tell them about their health. And on page number two, it says in 2014 that she lost a baby and she tried to commit suicide. It says it right here that she tried to use pills to commit suicide. That is on page two of the intake form that Sandra Bland had when she walk withed in though jail.

Now, on page four, it also states that Sandra Bland states the people here at the jail that she had epilepsy. But on the same page, and you can see it, it says have you ever attempted suicide, and that box is marked no. So on page four, it says no, on page two, it says yes.

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VAUSE: Bland's family is adamant that she did not kill herself and their attorney says Bland was excited about starting a new job.

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CANNON LAMBERT, BLAND'S FAMILY ATTORNEY: We take issue with the notion that she was suffering from depression. She was she never clinically diagnosed, as this family understands. Everybody has hills and valleys, and the bottom line is there was no medication that we were aware of that she was taking to address any sort of epilepsy or depression.

What raises questions is why it is that a 28-year-old woman who had received two job offers would take her own life. What it does is, is it raises questions. It raises questions why a 28-year-old woman would call her mother in excitement about those two jobs and then take her life. Sandy was a social activist, social activists don't take their own life, particularly in jail. Just doesn't make sense.

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KINKADE: And there are many questions surrounding the police dash cam video of Bland's arrest.

VAUSE: And many are asking how someone pulled over for failing to use a turn signal end up in jail for three days?

Miguel Marquez breaks down exactly what happened.

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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The very first interaction between Sandra Bland and Texas trooper Brian Inencinia normal enough.

BRIAN INENCINIA, TEXAS TROOPER: How long you have been in Texas?

SANDRA BLAND, VICTIM: Got here yesterday.

MARQUEZ: Pulling her over for a lane change violation, after checking her license and registration, he returns to the driver's side. About five minutes later, the tone changed.

INENCINIA: Are you OK?

BLAND: I'm waiting on you. This is your job. I'm waiting on you.

INENCINIA: You seem irritated.

MARQUEZ: Seconds later, trooper Inencinia apparently annoyed by her answer ups the ante.

INENCINIA: You may want to put out your cigarette, please. BLAND: I'm in my car. Why do I have to put out my cigarette?

INENCINIA: Well, you can step out on now.

HARRY HOUCK, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: It's not against the law to smoke in your car.

MARQUEZ: The situation rapidly escalates. Eleven times the trooper demand she exits the vehicle. Finally saying she's under arrest.

BLAND: Don't touch me. I'm not under arrest. You don't have the right --

INENCINIA: You are under arrest.

MARQUEZ: They argue and struggle finally I pulling his taser, issuing this threat.

INENCINIA: Get out of this car. I will light you up. Get out. Now!

BLAND: Wow.

INENCINIA: In the affidavit written after the arrest, neither the cigarette nor taser mentioned. She is charged with assault but Inencinia told her she was under arrest before the alleged assault ever happened.

HOUCK: I don't see anything here for being arrested for the motor vehicle violation. I don't see resisting arrest here. Honest, it's just all one complaint for assault, of a public servant. Got a problem with that.

MARQUEZ: The initial dash cam video released by the Texas department of motor vehicles had at least six videos but non audio anomalies in two areas of the video. This car disappearing several times. The tow truck operator jumping from outside to inside. Texas authorities saying it was an error in uploading.

[01:05:16] PAUL GINSBERG, FORENSIC MULTIMEDIA ANALYST: It is professionalism. It's everything. And yet, the uploaded something that apparently had flaws.

MARQUEZ: A new version of the video released by Texas DPS is shorter than the original by three minutes, possibly because of the digital loops in the original video. The new video contains no new information. The altercation between Bland and Inencinia off camera is disturbing.

BLAND: Slam me, knock my head in the ground. I have epilepsy you mother (bleep).

INENCINIA: Good. You are going to jail for resisting arrest.

BLAND: Whatever.

MARQUEZ: Later with the dash cam still running, Inencinia can be heard describing his side of the arrest to a superior.

INENCINIA: I only took enough force as I seen necessary. I even deescalated once we were on the pavement.

MARQUEZ: Miguel Marquez, CNN, New York.

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VAUSE: There are new security concerns about Barack Obama's trip to Kenya this week.

KINKADE: That's right. CNN has learned the U.S. has been bombing al- Shabaab militants, they may bring Somalia ahead of the president's visit. U.S. officials don't believe they will get near the president but worry they may strike vulnerable targets during his trip.

VAUSE: There are other security issues running the president's visit to Kenya as well and Suzanne Malveaux has that part of the story.

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Kenya, no stranger to terror. September 2013, the Somali-based group al-Shabaab opens fire on (INAUDIBLE) shoppers killing 67 people.

SUSAN RICE, U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: It is important to note Kenya in particular, Ethiopia less recently has been the victim of terrorism. Primarily perpetrated by al-Shabaab. We are very concerned for the people of Kenya and for the region that this threat remains a real one.

MALVEAUX: The fear among U.S. officials tonight is the growing chatter among east African terror groups just a day before the president's visit and even before air force one touches down in eastern Africa. The president's schedule typically given to the host country to help set up logistics is found posted on Facebook, including the specific dates and times of the president's arrival and departure from Kenya's two main airports.

Kenyan's civilian aviation authority issued this to pre-flight information bulletin to airlines and travel agencies detailing when Kenyan air space would be closed to accommodate air force one. But travel agents, eager to warn clients of possible delays, published the details online.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: In light of the age of social media, do you think it is possible now to keep the president's schedule private before he actually travels son some of these trips, these foreign trips which is so critical to his security.

JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The details of the president's schedule that are critical to keeping him safe are details that have not been disclosed publicly at this point.

MALVEAUX: A spokesman for Kenya's minister of interior insisted the disclosure was unintentional saying this news was not meant for the public. The White House says there's no reason at this point to change the president's itinerary.

EARNEST: This is obviously different than traveling to a place like Iraq or Afghanistan, where the president's travel plans are not announced in advance. But we obviously have taken some important precautions to keep the president safe while he's traveling in Africa.

MALVEAUX: Kenya has been targeted by al-Shabaab because they have been fighting them in neighboring Somalia. It was just in April they claimed responsibility for slaughtering 147 people at a Kenyan University. And this month, hitting two homes, killing 14 others. U.S. officials do not fear the president's safety will be in danger, but rather this terrorist group will hit those soft targets.

Suzanne Malveaux, CNN, the White House.

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KINKADE: Donald Trump takes his presidential campaign to the U.S.- Mexico border later today just weeks after he called undocumented immigrants from Mexico, rapists and criminals.

VAUSE: His message seems to be resonating with many Republican primary voters but a new poll suggests it may not last.

CNN's Jeff Zeleny has all of the details.

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JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump is heading to the border. He's trying to stay on top of the Republican field by doubling down on immigration during a Thursday tour in Laredo, Texas, with border patrol agents.

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: With the border and border security and lack of border security and illegal immigrants, it's a huge problem.

ZELENY: Tonight a new poll shows fresh vulnerabilities for Donald Trump, not in the GOP primary but if he would ever become the party's nominee.

TRUMP: We have to make America great again.

[01:10:00] ZELENY: In three key general election battlegrounds, Colorado, Iowa and Virginia, nearly six in ten voters hold unfavorable views of Trump. For now his resonating with some primary voters looking for a tough-talking candidate. But party leaders say he's talking too tough, specifically about fellow Republicans.

TRUMP: Rick Perry, he put glasses on so people will think he is smart. You have this guy Lindsey Graham, a total lightweight and people that are stupid.

ZELENY: It was Rick Perry's turn today to be singled out on social media. Trump released this picture and tweeted, Perry was once begging for my support and money. Hypocrite. The former Texas governor fired back urging conservatives to dump Trump.

RICK PERRY (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He offers a barking carnival act that can best be described as Trumpism, a toxic mix of demagoguery, and mean spirited and nonsense. Donald Trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded.

ZELENY: While the GOP free for all has Democrats smiling, the new Quinnipiac poll shows trouble for Hillary Clinton.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, I'm going to keep going. I believe it is so important for all of us.

ZELENY: In those same three general election swing states, majority of voters had an unfavorable view of her. The survey also shows Clintons trailing Republicans Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and Scott Walker in hypothetical matchups in those three states.

Jeff Zeleny, CNN, Washington.

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VAUSE: Donald Trump said he pays attention to the polls but right now is not concerned and he spoke to CNN's Anderson Cooper.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST, AC 360: Do vulnerability ratings worry you?

TRUMP: I don't think so. I mean, I have turned a lot of them around. As you know in North Carolina it was negative and now it is tremendously positive. And when people hear what I have to say about the vets and how strong my commitment is to the vets, they have been treated so badly and to the border which is horrible, I mean, every time people listen to me all of a sudden it becomes very favorable. A good example would be North Carolina where it is so positive. I haven't seen that, but I think generally speaking we are doing very well.

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VAUSE: A lot more from that interview a little later this hour.

KINKADE: Ahead, a security loophole in some cars exposed by hackers. They say they can shut down the engine while you are driving on a highway, but there won't be a recall for those vehicles. We'll explain all of that after the break.

Stay with us.

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[01:15:24] KINKADE: Now, to the near-earth orbit where the international space station is at full capacity after three astronauts from the U.S., Russia and Japan boarded a short time ago. The Soyuz spacecraft docked with the space station a couple of hours ago.

VAUSE: The expedition (INAUDIBLE) crew were greeted by the three astronauts already on the ISS including Scott Kelly and (INAUDIBLE) who is spending a full year in space. One of their missions, examining the effect of microgravity on headaches which astronauts apparently often suffer.

KINKADE: Now to Greece. After a grueling marathon debate in the wee hours of the morning, Greek lawmakers approved a second set of reforms made it to secure the country's bailout. The bill includes overhauls to the banking and judicial systems. Both required by the Eurozone to move forward with bailout talks.

VAUSE: Many in Greece do not support the measures. Thousands took to the streets of Athens in protest in what started as a peaceful demonstration soon turned chaotic. Some protesters threw petrol bombs at riot police, all this echoing the violence seen after last week's vote on austerity reforms.

KINKADE: And for more on this (INAUDIBLE), we are joined live from Athens.

Elinda, explain to us why exactly the Greek parliament have approved and what's it mean for Greece?

ELINDA LABROPOULOU, JOURNALIST: To begin with, they have approved a new civil protection code which will speed up court cases. This has been one of the main issues in Greece, the overhaul of the court system. And also in EU directive that aims to bolster banks and protect savers with deposits with under 100,000 euros.

Both of these are prior actions in order for the bailout talks simply to begin. They were voted in last night with 230 in support and the 300 seat parliament. But what we have seen, once again is that the prime minister has lost a lot of support from his own MPs. He got three more people to back him than the vote last time but that has also to do with the measures now being less controversial. But he still very, very close to the threshold for minority government which is 120 seats. And that of course, causes a lot of problems for him. Not just to get new measures voted in which he has partly done with the help of the opposition but certainly in terms of implementing them, Lynda.

KINKADE: And Elinda, we saw protests last week when parliament voted on the austerity measures and tonight more demonstration where people using petrol bombs. Just talk us through who was at these protests? And can we expect more unrest as the austerity measures kick in?

LABROPOULOU: Most of the protesters were unions, the civil service unions in particular took to the streets. They are afraid they are going to lose a lot of labor agreements that Greece has enjoyed a number of benefits, as well. In terms of arrests, (INAUDIBLE).

KINKADE: We are having some difficulties with your audio. So we will have to leave it there for now. But thank you very much for joining us and thanks for that update. We will cover more on the developments in Greece later next hour.

VAUSE: Driving on the highway when suddenly the radio changes channel, starts blaring and then the engine cuts out. That's exactly what happened to one tech writer who put himself in the hands of hackers who say they can control certain vehicles over the internet.

Dan Simon explains how it works and how the manufacturer is responding.

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[01:20:04] DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It could be a driver's worst nightmare.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On the highway.

SIMON: The engine in your Jeep Cherokee suddenly dies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do it. Kill the engine.

SIMON: After hackers take control of the car.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are killing the engine now.

SIMON: It could happen without any warning.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can't turn it down.

SIMON: The stereo system, air conditioning, windshield wipers, all out of control.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Air conditioning is blasting, the music is blasting and I can't see anything because the windshield wiper fluid.

SIMON: In this case the guinea pig is Andy Greenberg, a reporter for "Wired" magazine.

ANDY GREENBERG, SENIOR WRITER, WIRED: I didn't expect them to cut the transmission which actually was incredibly unnerving. And you know, I was stuck on the highway, thanks to these guys wirelessly connected to the car over the Internet from ten miles away.

SIMON: The hackers got in through the Jeep's root entertain and information system called u-connect. It is basically a computer inside the car that is connected to the Internet. Once they found the weak spot, they discovered they were able to control pretty much everything inside the car.

Charlie Miller is one of the hackers who took control of this Jeep Cherokee.

So once you are in you can access other functions of the car.

CHARLIE MILLER, HACKER: Right. So as I mentioned, inside your car, really, there is like 30 computers and they all talk to each other. And once you are on one of those computers, you can start to send messages to other computers and tell them to do things.

SIMON: Do things like control the brakes and send the car down a ditch.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hold on tight. Hold on.

SIMON: The experiment was only tested on a jeep, but the hacker says it could impact hundreds of thousands of other fiat Chrysler vehicles with the same system. In a statement, the automotive giant said the security and confidence of our customers is important and that it issued a software update that either customers can download or take to their dealer. Miller says other carmakers have similar computer systems and could also potentially be hacked, exposing drivers to a whole new danger on the road.

MILLER: If someone steals your bank account information, I mean, that's a bummer, but no one is hurt. But here, if a hacker would get in your car they can crash. And you and your children could be hurt. So, it is really important that we deal with this issue now instead of waiting until this is reality that there are cars crashing all the time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Guys, I need the accelerator to work again.

SIMON: Dan Simon, CNN, San Francisco.

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VAUSE: Chris Valasek was the other hacker who exposed the floor in Chrysler's computer system and he joins us now from Pittsburgh.

So Chris, were you surprised at just how effective this hack was, and the number of systems you were able to take control of?

CHRIS VALASEK, HACKER: You know, we spent a lot of time doing the research for this project. I think Charlie and I were fairly confident given enough time we would find a way in. That being said, after we did our sampling and little statistical algorithm we were surprised that how many vehicle that we could, you know, we knew were affected which hundreds of thousands and there are maybe more that we don't know about.

VAUSE: How much of your findings that you can make public? Because clearly, there is a concern here that you will be releasing a how to manual for anyone who wants to hack a car.

VALASEK: Yes. What we are going to release and publicly talk about is everything, but there is multiple steps to these attacks. And the first step is going from cellular to getting on the infotainment system. If you have seen the videos, we turn the volumes up, turn to AC on and things like that. But the next step, which is much, much harder and actually took us a few months to figure out is reprogramming of different chips so we can send messages on the car's internal network to do things like turn off the transmission, steering, braking, even things like windshield wipers. We're leaving out that one small piece that is how to make that

transition because while we want to give as much information as possible, we want security researchers to be able to use this information. We don't want it to be a point and click hack type situation. So we are leaving a small portion of it out but that small portion took us a few months to figure out.

VAUSE: There's some criticism that you carried out this stunt, if you like, on a busy highway, that it was dangerous, why not do it on a test track or an empty lot?

VALASEK: We did test the steering, the braking and all other stuff in an empty parking lot. But, you know, we really were just slowing the car down and we didn't really think there was much safety implications involved in that. I mean, I think people are out there, people worried about that they should be livid about people texting and driving or having low air pressure in their tires. So I'm sure there are more of those people out than the one time we did it.

VAUSE: Fair point. Does it worry you that the only fix offered by Chrysler to this problem is the customer to download a patch and take it to a mechanic. If this problem is so serious, shouldn't Chrysler I guess may issuing some kind of recall here?

VALASEK: I'm not sure how the automotive industry works with recalls. So I can't say that they should or shouldn't because I don't know the business justifications for doing so. But we are just happy they have a patch and people can get it. It would be a lot worse if they said, yes, we know about this, but we are not releasing a patch at all. So I'm just happy there is a patch out there.

[01:25:19] VAUSE: You know, the bigger picture her is not just cars that can be hacked like what you guys did, it's anything. Any device connected to the Internet by Wi-Fi that goes pacemakers to power plants. They are all potentially vulnerable out there.

VALASEK: Yes. We are a society of convenience, right? And the easiest way to access things is, you know, through the internet or through some cellular interface. So I mean, that's just the way of the world. And I think that's where people like me come in. We want people like me looking for these flaws and pointing them out and helping people fix them.

So, you know, I think I'm out here and Charlie is out here trying to make sure that hackers like us aren't the bad guys and we want people looking at these things to so we make the world a better place.

VAUSE: OK. Chris, great to have you. Chris Valasek, hacker and exposer of big problems. Thank you.

VALASEK: Thanks for having me.

KINKADE: Well, still to come, you are watching CNN NEWSROOM.

Just ahead, we will take you on a ride along an illegal smuggling route in Kenya. VAUSE: (INAUDIBLE) said why it has become a security nightmare.

Also ahead, details about the heroic actions that investigators say saved lives during that shooting rampage in Tennessee.

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[01:29:51] JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back, everybody. You are watching CNN NEWSROOM live all around the world this hour. I'm John Vause.

LYNDA KINKADE, CNN ANCHOR: Hello. I'm Lynda Kinkade. And these are the headlines this hour.

Forms that Sandra Bland filled out when she was taken to jail in the U.S. state of Texas indicate she had previously tried to commit suicide. Authorities say the 28-year-old hanged herself in her cell three days after her arrest during a traffic stop. Bland's family insists she would have taken her own life.

VAUSE: After a grueling night of debates, Greek lawmakers passed a second of reforms to needed to get a third bailout. The deal includes for dealing with failed banks and speeding up the justice system. Conditions required by the Eurozone creditors to begin bailout negotiations.

KINKADE: New security concerns about Barack Obama's trip to Kenya this week. CNN learned the U.S. has been bombing al Shabaab targets in neighboring Somalia ahead of the president's visit. U.S. officials don't believe they will get near the president but worry they may strike vulnerable targets during his trip.

VAUSE: Militants from Somalia are able to get into Kenya through a porous border.

Nima Elbagir shows us some of the back roads they have been using and the potential security nightmare.

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NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dirt tracks crisscrossing through the bush. They are known as a back door into Kenya.

(on camera): We are told these are the routes al Shabaab are using to travel in and out throughout the country and we have to put on protective gear.

Behind us is the official route. But this is the smuggler route. It takes you from Somalia into Kenya and back out again. No government presence, no check points. You can bring in what you want and who you want.

(voice-over): Two years ago, we traveled these same tracks. We have come back to see if anything had changed. It's even busier than before. Surprised to see us, some spot the camera and turn back. One man stops to threaten us with rocks. When our producer approaches, he calms down enough to admit, this is his regular route, ferrying people back and forth to the southern Somali port town. No passports. No questions.

(on camera): This junction is out in the middle of nowhere. It is only 20 kilometers from a major military base. And out here you wouldn't know it. There's no government presence. Just clear access all the way to Somalia.

(voice-over): In spite of an increased security drive for the government, al Shabaab's attacks and ambitions have been spilling in Kenya with deadly frequency. Once the back roads, they are now a security nightmare.

In Nairobi, the spokesman for the military tells us they are doing everything they can to fight this but it is not easy.

UNIDENTIFIED MILITARY SPOKESMAN: There is a long border and has been a long time because previous government have not taken serious action to ensure there is, there is proper control, border patrol police, a specialized police unit. We are equipping them with specialized equipment. But we are not denying there is a problem.

ELBAGIR: On the route, the sun begins to set. Night falls as we wind our way directly into the heart of downtown. No check points, no security searches, and no one the wiser.

Nima Elbagir, CNN, northern Kenya.

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KINKADE: We will have more of Nima's reporting in the coming days. Tomorrow, she takes us to a university where al Shabaab militants killed 147 people, mostly students. We'll hear from a survivor returning to the school for the first time since that attack.

VAUSE: Kurdish militants are claiming responsibility for killing two Turkish police officers. They Kurdistan Workers Party, of PKK, said the officers were killed in retaliation for a suicide bombing. A PKK statement said the officers collaborated with ISIS gangs. At least 31 were killed, 100 injured in Monday's exPLOsion. And an official said the bomber is believed to have been a 20-year-old Turkish national.

KINKADE: The man accused of killing nine African-American worshipers in a Charleston, South Carolina, church faces federal hate crime charges. South Carolina doesn't have a hate crime law. On Wednesday, a U.S. grand jury leveled 33 counts, including federal hate crime and firearm charges, against 21-year-old Dylann Roof.

VAUSE: If convicted, he faces live in prison or the death penalty for last month's rampage. The U.S. attorney general said Roof fanned the flames of racism.

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LORETTA LYNCH, ATTORNEY GENERAL: We have here a defendant who was alleged to have harbored discriminatory views toward African- Americans, to have sought out an African-American house of worship, one that was particularly noted because of its age and significance, and he also sought out African-American parishioners at worship, implicating several hate crimes statutes. Racially motivated violence such as this is the original domestic terrorism.

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[01:35:13] KINKADE: In Chattanooga, Tennessee, investigators are praising the heroism of Marines who risked their lives to save others during last week's shooting rampage that left five comrades dead.

VAUSE: New information on the time line of the attack is coming to light.

As Alina Machado reports, officials used blunt language to describe the actions of the apparent lone-wolf attacker.

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ED REINHOLD, FBI SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE: At this time, we are treating him as a home-grown violent extremist. We believe he acted on his own that day.

ALINA MACHADO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The FBI revealing new details tonight about that deadly massacre in Tennessee. According to investigators, three to five minutes is all the time it took Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez to go on a shooting rampage at this naval operating center in Chattanooga killing four Marines and one sailor who are now hailed as heroes.

MAJ. GEN. PAUL BRIER, 4TH MARINE DIVISION COMMANDING GENERAL: Rapidly going room to room, they got their fellow Marines to safety. Once they had gotten to safety, some willingly ran back in to the fight.

MACHADO: The rampage started at this recruiting station where authorities say Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez fired shots from his rented silver Ford Mustang and drove seven miles to the Navy facility where he crashed through the gate and began firing.

REINHOLD: A servicemember opened fire on him and then the shooter responded by shooting into the building.

MACHADO: Abdulazeez, armed with an assault rifle, a handgun and several magazines of ammunition, eventually made it inside, shooting a servicemember who later died. The gunman walked out the back of the building and killed four Marines before a Chattanooga police officer shot and killed him. Investigators found two weapons belonging to servicemembers. At least one of them was used to fire at Abdulazeez.

REINHOLD: We found three weapons inside the facility that we believe, well, we known, belonged to the shooter. One weapon was located in the vehicle and two weapons were located on his person. Two additional weapons were recovered at the scene. Those weapons belonged to servicemembers. They were -- at least one of the weapons was discharged at the subject. Whether he was struck by those individuals is unclear at this time.

MACHADO: The shooting, a shock to the gunman's friends who, in a series of text messages obtained exclusively by CNN, expressed disbelief.

James Petty, a close friend, who considered Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez a devout Muslim and spiritual mentor, writes, "It can't be our Abdulazeez."

The friends also discuss a possible motive, asking, "He ever talk about jihad any, or how corrupt the society is?" The reply, "Dude, he just had a new job and everything. This is out of nowhere."

Alina Machado, CNN, Chattanooga, Tennessee.

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KINKADE: The car service, Uber, has scored a major victory in New York City. Mayor de Blasio dropped the plan to cut the number of new licenses issued to Uber and other similar services at least for now. The city said it will vote on the proposal after it completes a study on the impact on traffic congestion later this year.

VAUSE: The battle over this proposal turned a little ugly in recent weeks. Uber launched a TV ad campaign blasting the city's plan. They had argued that should the mayor go ahead with this, it would cost thousands of jobs.

KINKADE: Still to come, Bill Cosby suffers a legal set back in accusations of sexual assault. More on the case that could soon force him to answer some very uncomfortable questions under oath.

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[01:42:13] VAUSE: Comedian Bill Cosby will have to give another deposition in a sexual harassment case. The California Supreme Court denied his petition to review the civil case so it can proceed to trial. The alleged victim claims Cosby sexually assaulted her at the "Playboy" mansion in 1974. She was 15 years old at the time.

KINKADE: Cosby's representatives have consistently denied the allegations. Details from his deposition in a separate 2005 case were released earlier this month. Cosby admitted he obtained prescription drugs to give to women so he could have sex with them.

VAUSE: Let's leave that there and go on and check the weather now.

Hong Kong had its wettest day since 2013.

IVAN CABRERA, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Incredible rains.

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CABRERA: You know what I forgot to do today?

VAUSE: "Sharknado." CABRERA: I forgot to set the DVR for "Sharknado" thing.

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CABRERA: Do you know what's in it?

VAUSE: Everything.

CABRERA: There is a "Sharknado Haboob."

VAUSE: Really?

CABRERA: Yeah.

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CABRERA: They go all Armageddon.

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CABRERA: They're going interstellar. They jump the shark.

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CABRERA: All right.

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CABRERA: Talk about some of the rainfall that's been falling here. Look at this. Heavy rain in Hong Kong. A giant tree blocking the road. No injuries. That was the scene in Hong Kong through Tuesday and into Wednesday with just incredible amounts of rain. In fact the rainiest day recorded since May of 2013. I will be showing you 191 millimeters, so much rainfall fell across Hong Kong on the weather maps with heavy rainfall. That did not just come in with rain. That is a squall line that rolled through. Significant gusts, as well. And in China we picked up 100 millimeters. That doesn't sound like a lot but that comes on top of what we have had this week. In some areas almost a half meter of rainfall because of the front that is hanging out. It's not going anywhere. It will continue to rain over the same areas the next few days. Look at this, persistent rain over the same provinces here. That continues further up and northeast. Look at the accumulations, another 100 to 200 millimeters of rainfall. That is a possibility.

Then we are tracking this. Look at this from NASA, a color picture coming out of the satellites early this morning. This is a Typhoon Haloa (ph). It is headed to Japan. If you are watching us from there, keep an eye on this. It is coming at you heading in to the weekend. 165 kilometer an hour winds right now, category two. It will weaken before it makes any close pass to Japan here. By the time we get to the weekend, Okinawa will have to watch it closely. We could be looking at significant winds there. It weakens to the north. What does not weaken will be the rainfall. I think we will be talking about additional rainfall tallies of 100 to 200 millimeters. In Japan they have picked up a half meter of rainfall. It will be a wet go of it coming up this weekend with our typhoon.

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[01:40:11] VAUSE: -- "Sharknado" getting all his wings cut off and then exploded. Crashing your NASCAR into a shark in a pool at Universal Orlando. Swallowed whole while visiting the White House.

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VAUSE: And number one, next to Tara Reid who -- spoiler alert -- she dies.

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CABRERA: "Sharknado IV" already coming out.

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VAUSE: That's good TV.

CABRERA: Indeed.

VAUSE: Thank you.

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VAUSE: Well, researchers believe a manuscript at the University of Birmingham's collection is among the oldest known fragment of the Koran. They used radio carbon analysis to test two parchment leaves and dated them between 568 and 645 A.D.

KINKADE: Incredible. That means the text was written close to the time of the Prophet Mohammad, who scholars say lived between 570 and 632 A.D. The fragment is covered in an early form of Arabic script.

VAUSE: I wonder if they find an old script of "Sharknado"

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KINKADE: You are obsessed.

VAUSE: Coming up, Donald Trump is making headlines with blunt talk in the U.S. presidential election. Now he's defending all of the trash- talk name-calling stuff. We will be back in a minute.

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[11:50:21] KINKADE: Welcome back. U.S. Presidential Candidate Donald Trump is running as a Republican in 2016. But he admits he hasn't always aligned with that political party.

VAUSE: There's an understatement. Mr. Trump sat down with Anderson Cooper to talk about that and also some of the tension with his fellow candidates.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST, A.C. 360: When you are on that debate stage, one of the things I think they are going to hit you with, your opponents, not the media, your opponents, they will say you have flip flopped. You are decisive in business but independent, unaffiliated, Democrat, Republican, back and forth. What's up with that?

DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP GROUP: You know who else left? A man named -- my favorite -- Ronald Reagan. He was a Democrat. He became a Republican.

COOPER: But you were unaffiliated, independent.

TRUMP: I was. And I live in New York.

COOPER: You were pro choice and now you are not.

TRUMP: If you look at that clip, I hate the concept of abortion. Also I'm a businessman. They are talking to me as a businessman about things like abortion. Nobody even asked me questions like that. But if you look at that clip and let it run, I talk about how I hate the concept -- I went on forever about it. Nobody would ask me questions, you know, it is sort of a question you don't ask -- I build buildings. They are not asking am I pro choice or pro life. What I am. I don't use the word flip. I have evolved on a lot of different things.

COOPER: Talking of Jeb, Jeb Bush said, if we engage in this language of divisiveness and ugliness, we will never win.

TRUMP: When you say "divisive" --

COOPER: He said.

TRUMP: No, but you're quoting him. When you quote "divisive," I get called horrible names by Lindsey Graham, who I don't even know. I didn't start it with Lindsey Graham. I couldn't care less. And Lindsey Graham, he is like zero in the poll. And Rick Perry, from Texas, I posted a picture of him shaking my hand, looking for money and support, and people say, I call him a hypocrite, but they are saying horrible things, like I don't even know these people. Am I supposed to say, OK, it's for them to say -- one guy, Lindsey Graham called me a jackass. You have to fight back. Everyone is pushing our country around. We can't allow that, Anderson.

COOPER: Is it presidential, though?

TRUMP: I think it's presidential.

COOPER: To give out somebody's -- to give out a personal phone number.

TRUMP: Well, that was a long story. I mean, you have to see the whole story. That was a long story. He wanted to get on "FOX & Friends" and he called me out of the blue. I never met the guy and he wanted to come in for campaign contributions. Then he starts to hit me years later, and I happen to have this crazy phone number and I held it up. I said this guy was over here. Actually, as you probably know, the room was packed. It was standing-room only. Other theaters, overflow crowds. They had closed-circuit television in other rooms. The place went wild. We all had a good time.

COOPER: But is that presidential?

TRUMP: I think so.

COOPER: As president, when you are opposed to somebody in Congress, you would give out their number.

TRUMP: I was hit by somebody unfairly, I was called name. He is saying what a bad guy I am was up in my office asking for money and if I can get him on television.

COOPER: You are president of the United States, you are going to be hit by half of the country.

TRUMP: That's true. That's true.

COOPER: Are you going to call them dumb?

TRUMP: No, I think it is different. Right now I'm doing something to make the country great again.

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TRUMP: Politicians will never make this country great again.

COOPER: As president you would change your tone?

TRUMP: I think I would deal very differently.

COOPER: Do you have the temperament to be president? That's the question he was raising you take a no prisoners approach. Right now, you're --

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TRUMP: No, I don't have that. I'm different than you would think. Right now I'm fighting because I'm number one in the polls, by far, and I'm attacked on all sides. When with you are attacked, you have to -- in my opinion.

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COOPER: As president, you are attacked all the time.

TRUMP: Excuse me. In opinion -- but this isn't the same thing. In my opinion, when attacked, you have to defend and attack back. I'm being attacked by certain people. Actually Bush -- I think he is probably a nice guy. I don't think he has the temperament. By that, he is a nice guy but he doesn't have the temperament, why? Because he is too low key. He's too laid back. Can you imagine Bush negotiating with China? You want to talk about temperament. I will introduce you to the Chinese. They have temperaments. Can you imagine Bush negotiating trade deals with China?

COOPER: His brother, George W. Bush, when he was running, said he would be a uniter not a divider. What would you be?

TRUMP: I think I would be a great uniter.

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KINKADE: Another U.S. presidential candidate is getting a lot of attention for his response to Donald Trump's antics.

[01:55:06] VAUSE: As we just heard, Mr. Trump gave out the phone number of U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham. So Graham made a video of what he did to that phone.

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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM, (R), SOUTH CAROLINA & PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, if all else fails, you can always give your number to the Donald. This is for all the veterans.

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KINKADE: Certainly has got a good sense of humor.

VAUSE: It is all fun and games. But the people making the point, while this goes on and trading insults, no one is talking serious issues, and that's the problem right now.

KINKADE: That's true.

VAUSE: It's compelling to watch at the moment.

KINKADE: It's fun for now. I'm sure they will get down to the serious issues --

VAUSE: We'll see.

KINKADE: -- sooner or later.

Thank you for watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Lynda Kinkade.

VAUSE: I'm John Vause.

Stay with us. Errol Barnett and Paula Newton are up next with another hour of CNN NEWSROOM.

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