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Remembering Beau Biden; Several Ships Trying to Rescue Migrants Off Libya; Three People Accuse Hastert of Sexual Abuse; Third Man in Boston Terror Plot. Aired 1-2p ET

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[13:00:03] HUNTER BIDEN, YOUNGER BROTHER OF BEAU BIDEN: He learned that public life was not about serving yourself, rather it was about the privilege to serve those who can't always serve themselves. Someone once said, don't wait to make your son a great man. Make him a great boy.

From the time we left the hospital 42 years ago, my dad spent every moment that he possibly could with us. No event was too small. No event was too great. We traveled with him up and down the state, across the country, around the world. We went to thousands of speeches, chicken dinners, debates. We rode the train with him for thousands of miles. We went everywhere with him.

We just assumed it was normal to want to be with your dad more than anyone else in the world. We learned by his example that even the smallest gesture could have the greatest meaning. We'd go to the Senate with him, more often I think than any children of any senator ever. We'd ride the subway and the conductor would say, you know, your dad is our favorite. There would be other senators on the train, so he'd whisper it.

And we'd get into that elevator and the elevator operator would say, you know, we love your dad. That's what made us most proud. We thought it was neat that he was a senator and that he knew some really important people, but we thought it was neater that he was friends with Mouse. We thought it was cooler that he knew every employee at the charcoal pit. So Beau's true north, his integrity, his character, his honor, came from our father's love.

But I believe there's a weight to love, a balance, which determines the limits of how much one can give and how much one can receive. But for Beau, there seemed to be no such limits. The Beauty of Beau was not how much he was loved, but how much love he could give. And he gave that love so freely, he gave that love in his laugh, in his touch, in his words, but most of all, he gave that love in his deeds.

That's what made his love so special. To him it was never a burden. It was always a joy. And that love lived in all of us. Sometimes in profound ways, it was a love whose light brightened our darkest moments, but for so many it was a quiet, subtle love. A pure love. That was expressed simply in the way he made us feel when he was near. It was a love so rich that all he had to do was hold your hand. He held so many hands. Survivors of abused, parents of his fallen

brothers and sisters in uniform, victims of violent crime in his beloved city of Wilmington. That's my brother's story. There are thousands of people telling those stories right now. Telling the same story. About when Beau Biden held their hand.

My only claim on my brother is that he held my hand first. Forty-two years ago I believe that God gave us a gift. He gave us the gift of sparing my brother, sparing him long enough to give the love of a thousand lifetimes.

[13:05:06] God gave us a boy who no -- had no limits to the weight of love he could bear. And as it began, so did it end. His family surrounding him, everyone holding on to him, each of us desperately, desperately holding him. Each of us whispering, I love you, I love you, I love you. And I held his hand and he took his last breath, and I know that I was loved, and I know that his hand will never leave mine.

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[13:13:01] CARDINAL THEODORE MCCARRICK, ARCHBISHOP EMERITUS OF WASHINGTON: My dear brothers and sisters, before we go our separate ways, let us take leave of our brother, Beau. May our farewell express our affection for him. May it ease our sadness and strengthen our hope. One day we shall joyfully greet him again when the love of Christ, which conquers all things, destroys even death itself.

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MCCARRICK: Into your hands, Father of mercies, we commend our brother Beau and the sure and certain hope that together with all who have died in Christ, he will rise again with him on the third day. We give you thanks for the blessings which you bestowed upon him in this life. They are signs to us of your goodness and of our fellowship with the saints in Christ.

[13:15:12] Merciful Lord, turn to us and listen to our prayers, open the gates to paradise to your servant Beau and help us who remain to comfort one another with assurances of faith until we all meet in Christ and are with you and with our brother forever. We ask this through Christ our Lord.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Amen.

All friends of Beau Biden are invited to a gathering at Archmere Academy at the completion of today's mass. It will be a chance to celebrate Beau's life and the inspiration he leaves with us which will live in us all forever.

In peace, let us take our brother to his place of rest.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: You're watching the funeral service for Beau Biden, the son of Vice President Joe Biden. And as we watch and wait for the processional to begin, it was both profound and deeply personal in the eulogies delivered by both the president of the United States and by Beau's younger brother by one year and one day.

It should be noted that this is the first time in -- well, since the administration of John F. Kennedy that a vice president or president has buried a child while in office. Beau Biden was 46. He passed away May 30th. Served in the U.S. Military, served the state of Delaware as its attorney general.

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SAVIDGE: You're looking at the vice president and his wife there, as they stand just at the entrance of St. Anthony of Padua Roman Catholic Church which where this funeral service has been taking place. The capacity of that church is said to be 1,000. They reached that capacity two hours before the service actually began, and began directing those who still wished to come into what was an overflow area.

You heard the eulogies that were delivered by General Odierno, under which Beau Biden served in Iraq, as a member of the Delaware National Guard. That was in 2008. You heard the president of the United States and then you heard Beau's sister and his brother all deliver their own personal eulogies.

CNN national correspondent Sunlen Serfaty is there and she joins us now live.

And of course we've been watching all of this, Sunlen. It's extremely moving but I imagine, from your perspective, it is even more deeply so. What have you seen and what have you heard?

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Martin. I'm right outside the church, where we're seeing live pictures now of the casket slowly making his way outside and into hearse now. What you can't see right now is just the lines and lines of people just outside the barricade who have been lined up and out here for the last three hours, waiting for this funeral to be over.

One thousand people inside the church, but many, many others out here on the streets of Wilmington, hoping to catch a glance of the vice president and his family as they mourn. As the funeral was taking place, many of the supporters out here, they couldn't hear the remarks but I noticed one woman was just bawling, tears running down her eyes, knowing what the vice president and his family were going through inside this church.

As you said the eulogies were very personal in nature. Hunter Biden describing the last moments that they spent with Beau Biden in the hospital room, whispering and holding each other, whispering I love you, I love you, I love you, then describing Beau Biden taking his last breath. That was one of the emotional peaks of the ceremony.

[13:25:10] In addition to hearing from Ashley Biden in her eulogy, she described it as a tragic privilege to go to his chemotherapy treatments with him. She spoke about how he would play his favorite music and his favorite song during those chemo treatments over and over, and believing now, having some perspective, Ashley Biden said, she believes that was a message her brother was trying to pass on to the family now, knowing then he likely would pass, to remain strong in this hard time.

So again, we're outside the church here watching these live pictures. A very solemn moment out here in the streets of Wilmington. You can hear a pin drop. You hear the bells of the church ringing and nothing else, as people here are lined up in the streets just watching -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Sunlen, thank you very much. Also with me is Allan Lichtman, presidential historian and distinguished professor at American University, and Larry Sabato, who's director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia.

I'd like to get both of your takes.

Larry, let me start with you. The Bidens are liked across the partisan aisle, and I'm wondering, what is it, what is that -- what is that magic? What is it that they have that allows them to sort of have this ability to go politically between two sides?

LARRY SABATO, DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR POLITICS, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: Well, politics is above all personal. It's not just partisan. It's very personal. And I think it's much like you heard Hunter Biden explain, the people who occupy various positions in the Senate staff positions loved Joe Biden when he was in the Senate. He joined the Senate, at the tender age of 30, was there for all those years until he was picked for vice president.

So it's a very personal thing. And I think that's why this -- all funerals are wrenching. This one was exceptionally wrenching because I think just everybody had a hard time keeping a dry eye, whatever their party affiliation or ideology. Look at President Obama, he's known as no drama Obama. He rarely shows public emotion and he had great difficulty maintaining his composure.

SAVIDGE: That was noted, yes, you could tell that there were times that the president clearly himself appeared to be choked up in the delivery of the eulogy that he was making. And speaking to his friend, the vice president, not just there as a formality.

Larry, I mentioned it a minute ago, but it's important to note that to bury a child while holding a political office, as Joe Biden is doing, it suddenly gives us a window of commonality. I mean, there may be many things that divide us politically, but the tragedy of a family is something that almost every family member knows of and we feel it greatly as a result.

SABATO: Absolutely. And I think most people were remembering times when they were burring loved ones as they watched this. And while all funerals don't have this kind of pomp and circumstance, they have the pain, the lasting pain, that all of us have felt so think we really identified with political figures here and they've become human again.

One of the great problems is that we have -- we dehumanize our highest elected officials, and we treat them as though they weren't human. And so at times like this, I think we have a chance to change, if we choose to do it.

SAVIDGE: Allan, what do you think the history books will say about Beau Biden and the vice president, the Biden family? This is an extraordinary family.

ALLAN LICHTMAN, PRESIDENTIAL HISTORIAN: Yes, I think the Biden family will go down in the history books as one of the most important, influential and, as you can see, inspirational families. And I think there is something absolutely extraordinary about this funeral. Think about it. You know, Beau Biden was not a John F. Kennedy. He was not a great transformational leader. He never rose higher than attorney general of the state of Delaware.

And yet there was something transcendent about this moment. Beau Biden was every man, he was every father, he was every husband, he was every brother, he was someone who we could all identify, someone who could dance in his shorts in a sombrero to entertain his family, and yet he was something more than that. He was a public servant in the true sense of the term. You understood that Beau Biden did not seek office as a career move to join a club for personal advancement. He truly understood the meaning of serving the public.

[13:30:00] SAVIDGE: That is what really, I think, came forward, was that you were learning of a man who dedicated himself to serve the public, as you just pointed out, and also to serve his family, and the lessons both the surviving brother expressed and the daughter were that this was and came from the vice president, Joe Biden himself. It was in many ways a tribute to Beau and to his father.

And we watch now as the motorcade and the hearse procession leaves from the church and really brings to an end this funeral service.

Sunlen, I want to bring you back one more time because you're there and you can really tell us the feelings outside of this extraordinary service.

SERFATY: Well, it is definitely an extraordinary scene outside of the church, as well, lines and lines of people have been lined up all day. Many people really taking pains to tell us about their personal connection to the Biden family. It almost seems like everyone here in this community has been touched personally by them in some way.

People standing out here for three hours in the hot sun, just waiting to catch a glimpse of them as they come out of the church. But really a lot of people telling us they just felt the need to be here, not knowing if they would be able to get inside the church, the church was only 1,000 people, and that filled up very quickly. This follows the pattern we've seen for the last three days of these ceremonies.

Yesterday was the wake here at this church, that was also open to the public. They had two waves, the line was down the street for blocks and blocks. We know that the vice president yesterday he stood at the front of the church and he greeted each and every person, one by one, as they came into the church. Thanked them for coming. He even apologized for people having to wait that long. But clearly emotional eulogies here. What struck me really by President Biden -- excuse me, by President

Obama's eulogy was a message straight to the vice president, someone he called his brother. And the message seemed to me to be job well done, you've raised a good kid. Many times during President Obama's eulogy he made direct reference to Joe Biden saying the world has noticed, meaning the world has noticed what sort of man you raised, calling him Joe 2.0. Kind of making light of it saying he was the better version, someone that didn't lean on privilege, brushed away privilege, doing what -- doing this on his own, earning this on his own. And that's what he said, President Obama said Beau Biden's legacy will be.

SAVIDGE: Right, there was also a point the president said of Beau that he left nothing in the tank. In other words, that he gave his all. And that eulogy was quite remarkable in a number of ways, but it was also, you could tell, the personal reverence the president had for the Biden family.

And, Allan, I've listened to eulogies before, and some of them are delivered as speeches and some are delivered from the heart. This one from the president, definitely seemed from the heart.

LICHTMAN: This was from the heart. This was Barack Obama at his best. You know, I think often during his presidency he kind of lost the magic that he had during the 2008 campaign. I think he got too much surrounded by the consultants, the ad men, and the huckster he wasn't being himself. This was Obama being himself -- eloquent, compassionate, directly speaking to the Biden family, and yet speaking to all of the nation.

You know, it was the Dalai Lama who said, you know, in the wake of tragedy we can fall into depression or we can find our inner strength. I think President Obama was saying to the Biden family, and to all of us, we can find our inner strength through this. It was personal. But it was also transcendent.

SAVIDGE: Larry, of course, we're now going to head into another presidential cycle shortly and it is going to come with all the good and the bad that politically traditionally happens. Is it just politics as usual again come Monday morning?

SABATO: I'd like to be more optimistic, Martin, but I can't be because the world, particularly the political world, moves at hyper speed. And unfortunately, this will be quickly forgotten. It shouldn't be, there are lessons here that we ought to apply to the candidates who are living. The presidents and the vice presidents and the others who are living. But unfortunately, we won't. But maybe a few will remember it.

SAVIDGE: Let's -- excuse me. Let's hope so.

Larry Sabato, Allan Lichtman, and Sunlen Serfaty, thank you all for joining me.

We will be right back after this.

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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN breaking news.

SAVIDGE: We are following breaking news. British, German, Irish, and Italian ships are currently involved in a rescue operation that is taking place off the coast of Libya. A spokesperson says that seven boats with more than 2,000 migrants are currently being rescued. More ships are joining that rescue operation.

Joining me now, via telephone, is Lauren Jolles, who is with the United Nations Refugee Agency.

And, Lauren, do we know where these migrants may have been headed at the time?

LAUREN JOLLES, UNRA: Sorry, I didn't hear you well.

SAVIDGE: Do we know where these migrants were headed when this happened?

JOLLES: Well, yes, they're headed towards Italy, that's very clear. Most persons who come through Libya, most refugees who come through Libya, head to Italy and try to reach the Sicilian coast. Now in this particular case, distress calls were heard this morning already and we think there are between 10 to 14 boats. We'll hear a little bit more once they arrive.

You talked about 2,000, I heard about 3,000 persons on board. Many of them are already on board the ships that have -- the rescue ships that have gone that were sort of in the vicinity, and these are German ships, Irish ships, Italian ships. There's a -- there's a UK ship that is also on its way, might have reached them by now. And they will be disembarked in Sicily and Sardinia and other places in southern Italy.

And from there then, you know, they will be either going into the asylum process or, you know, trying to find their way elsewhere. But it's a very distressing situation. 3,000 is a large number.

[13:40:04] The sea is very calm at the moment. That's one of the reasons probably why the numbers are so high. But we have had times when, in weekends, you had about 5,000 persons arriving. And the same is happening as we speak in Greece.

SAVIDGE: Lauren, but --

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SAVIDGE: If I could just step in and just ask you quickly.

JOLLES: A very large numbers of refugees are arriving.

SAVIDGE: If I could, Lauren, how is it that the response this time, by the national ships we've just described, seems to be so much faster than, say, previous tragedies? What's changed?

JOLLES: Well, let's put it this way, at a certain point, there wasn't a pure Italian operation, (INAUDIBLE), which was quite effective. That stopped at a certain point and it was a period in which there was indeed quite ineffective rescue operation going on. Following the death of about 850 people a couple of months ago in the strait of Sicily, where I think the world or Europe at least woke up and said, this is not possible.

We have, again, the same tragedy that we had 1 1/2 year ago. And they did manage to reinforce the rescue operation that was there, and many other countries sort of, you know, provided naval resources. And it has really become much better which is a good thing.

SAVIDGE: It is.

JOLLES: That does not mean the tragedies will not happen because it just takes sometimes a few minutes for one of the very rickety boats to -- you know, to capsize and there are many people aboard who cannot swim very often or are trapped into the hold. But it has become more effective. Of course, the fact that it's good weather right now makes things a little bit easier.

SAVIDGE: It does indeed.

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JOLLES: But --

SAVIDGE: All right. Lauren --

JOLLES: Three thousand will be brought. Of course, it's still very dangerous, extremely dangerous to cross the Mediterranean.

SAVIDGE: It is.

JOLLES: We've seen many deaths before, we've seen many tragedies, but this is -- it's very sort of telling and very distressing that people have to take their life in their own hands, make this very dangerous crossing, and that's only because at this moment there do not appear to be any other legal alternatives, any other legal options to actually come to Europe from areas of, you know, for many of these people in Africa and that are coming from places where there is war, where there's a huge -- there's an enormous insecurity or really persecution.

SAVIDGE: All right. Lauren, thank you. Thank you very much. We are following this. We will continue to follow this. The thousands that are being rescued currently in the Mediterranean as part of what is clearly a migration problem going from Africa to Europe.

Moving on, the sexual misconduct scandal that has been swirling around former House Speaker Dennis Hastert is continuing to grow. CNN has now learned that three people are now accusing Hastert of sexual abuse. Hastert is due in federal court next week on charges of bank fraud and

lying to the FBI about the alleged hush money that he paid to one of his alleged victims.

CNN correspondent Polo Sandoval is in our New York bureau.

And Polo, what do we know about these newest allegations? And the people who are making the claims?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, Martin, this story has already taken so many twists and turns as it broke just over a week ago. So let's try to put all the pieces together. At this point, we know that there are at least three alleged victims here of Dennis Hastert. We know that the first is individual A, which we all read about when those federal court documents were released last weekend.

Then there's also another individual, a second person, that's still not known to the public. But CNN sources telling us that that person has spoken to the FBI and did not accept any of this so-called hush money. And then there's Steven Reinboldt. What's interesting here is that he actually died in the mid '90s, so his sister is having to come forward for him, just coming forward with some very serious allegations against someone who at one point was second in line for the U.S. presidency.

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SANDOVAL (voice-over): Jolene Burdge tells ABC News her brother, Stephen Reinboldt, shared a dark secret with her before his death 20 years ago.

JOLENE BURDGE, SISTER OF STEPHEN REINBOLDT: I asked him, Stevie, when was your first same-sex experience? I mean, he just looked at me and said, it was with Dennis Hastert.

SANDOVAL: Burdge says her brother told her he endured years of sexual abuse at the hands of Dennis Hastert during late '60 and early '70s. At the time the man who would become House speaker was a teacher and high school wrestling coach in Yorkville, Illinois. Reinboldt was a student and equipment manager for the team.

Burdge says her brother first told her about the alleged abuse back in 1979, when he revealed to her he was gay.

BURDGE: I said, why didn't you ever tell anybody, Stevie? I mean, he was your teacher. Why didn't you ever tell anybody? And he just looked at me and said, who is ever going to believe me?

SANDOVAL: Federal prosecutors say Hastert lied to the FBI about trying to pay $3.5 million in so-called hush money to a person identified in court documents only as Individual A.

[13:45:10] Burdge tells ABC News she is not that individual. She says she confronted Hastert on the day of her brother's funeral.

BURDGE: I want you to know that your secret didn't die in there with my brother.

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SANDOVAL: And perhaps that lingering question, what happened to those allegations from 2005 when she turned to some authorities and also members of the media. Well, one of those outlets, ABC News reporting that they could not corroborate Jolene's allegation back then and also Hastert continued to deny that claim, Martin.

As for Hastert, we have not heard from him since this new batch of allegations has surfaced. That could change on Tuesday, though, as he gets ready for his first federal court appearance -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Yes, a -- a lot of people are going to be watching that court appearance, indeed.

Polo Sandoval, thank you very much.

Still ahead, police are questioning a third person in the alleged Boston terror plot. We'll hear why he drew the attention of police.

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SAVIDGE: New details are coming out about the Boston terror plot and a third individual who met with the knife-wielding suspect, that's Usaamah Rahim. Just two days before Rahim was shot and killed by police. This third individual is being called an individual of interest and he's been taken in to questioning -- for questioning, I should say, and investigators have searched his home.

Pamela Brown looks at these latest developments.

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[13:50:04] PAMELA BROWN, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Indications Usaamah Rahim became suspicious the FBI was on to him in 2012 and had bugged his phone. On Facebook under the alias Abdur- Rahim Al-amreeki, he wrote, "I heard some flicking noises on my phone." He said an FBI agent called him and told him, "Sir, we have some allegations regarding you. I came by your house a few times but kept missing you."

Law enforcement officials confirmed Rahim, who police shot and killed in Boston on Tuesday, had been on the FBI's radar for the past couple of years. They say he met on a Rhode Island beach Sunday with his nephew, David Wright, and an unnamed 24-year-old man. That man lives here in Rhode Island with his parents. Police searched the home Wednesday, and a law enforcement source tells CNN agents have spoken with him and but he has not been arrested.

The three allegedly plotted to behead activist Pamela Geller in New York before Rahim changed his plan and decided to attack police officers in Massachusetts on Tuesday, according to the FBI.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The trick of this is frankly let the person get close enough so that they are taking a substantial step forward, that their efforts, their actions are prosecutable.

BROWN: CNN communicated with the third individual through Twitter back in March as part of reporting on Americans who follow jihadists. He indicated he was in touch with terrorists online including with ISIS. He claimed that alleged ISIS fighter was telling him to come to Syria to fight with the terrorist group.

This as CNN is learning known ISIS members overseas were communicating through peer-to-peer communication with at least one of three men, encouraging a terrorist attack at the U.S. Court records show Rahim bought three military knives on Amazon that were delivered to him in the last week.

Boston Police Commissioner William Evans believes he intended to behead officers.

WILLIAM EVANS, BOSTON POLICE COMMISSIONER: When they had the knives and what's happened across the country and across the world, the beheading of military and police officers, we can insinuate that that's why they had the knives and based on that comment, that's what we believe they were up to.

BROWN (on camera): We have learned the family of Rahim has viewed the surveillance video showing the shooting after those five officers approached him at the parking lot. The family, through their attorney, disputes that he had anything to do with ISIS.

Pamela Brown, CNN, Boston.

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SAVIDGE: Now is a good time to bring in CNN legal and law enforcement analyst and former assistant director of the FBI Tom Fuentes from New York.

And Tom, hello. And I should say they have been watching Usaamah Rahim for I presume some time. We've already known that. What about the other suspects? Do we presume that they, too, were under surveillance?

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Yes, Martin. They came up a while back. They were surveilled in fact visiting with each other at the beach, probably laying out their final plans for the attack that Rahim was going to carry out. So -- but the FBI, the full-court 24/7 surveillance on Rahim has only been in the last week or so. And, you know, but they were monitoring generally his activities, his communications.

The actual wiretap on him would have been a much shorter period of time. And it's based on the wiretapped phone calls the day he was killed where he's calling David Wright, tells Wright that, yes, we have the plan to go out of state and behead somebody, but the boys in blue are here now. I can't wait. I have to go out right now and do it. And based on that, that's why two hours later the agent and police officers were confronting him before he could get on a bus and do something terrible. That's when he pulls out the knife. That's when they have the

confrontation, and that's when he gets shot and killed.

SAVIDGE: The suspect apparently thought that the FBI had contacted him in 2012, and I'm wondering, is this something that fits into the type of investigation that they've been conducting?

FUENTES: There are some investigations where they might contact an individual, not many of them. His claim about he heard clicking, I can assure you after a long career involved with wiretaps you won't hear clicking if your phone is being wiretapped by the FBI. I won't tell you how it's done, but I can just tell you, you won't hear clicking. But, you know, in the recent days before his death, they were on his phone, and they do intercept the calls with David Wright the morning that he's shot and killed.

And in addition, in the charging documents, and they indicate that in the charging documents with Wright when he's arrested. They say based on conversations which were recorded by the FBI. And then they also say that after he received his Miranda rights, David Wright cooperated and gave a lot of information. So I think that's where they're filling in a lot of the rest of the story of what was going to happen, what they had already decided to do, and what they were in progress carrying out.

SAVIDGE: Among the other things that the authorities apparently heard or moved in after was that he called his dad to say his good-byes. And I'm wondering, what do you think they were waiting for if not a red flag, that he was about to commit some sort of act of violence?

[13:55:06] FUENTES: Well, I think they were waiting to see if and when he was going to do it. They knew he had ordered which indicates to me also that they had wiretaps in place on his phone and on his e- mails because they pick up when he orders the knives from Amazon.com, when they're delivered, they x-ray the boxes to prove that the knives are in there. And now all they're waiting for is the indication of when is he actually going to do it.

And even with all of that indication and all of that evidence, you still have the brother out there, saying, oh, you know, he's a good guy, he wasn't going to do anybody any harm, he was shot in the back, he was talking to his dad saying on the phone I can't breathe. But you know, a lot of claims that were made that later he had to retract several of them, although he's still, you know, saying that the FBI and the police are not being truthful.

I'd like to add on that, by the way, this is an ongoing investigation, and the reason that Boston PD and the FBI wanted to show that video to the clergy was to avoid a community going against the police. They need their cooperation.

SAVIDGE: All right. Got to go. Tom Fuentes, thank you very much as always. We appreciate your insights.

Just ahead, several Republican presidential hopefuls, they're gathered in Iowa. We'll tell you how motorcycles and food are playing a part in today's event.

And also today, we honor the men who landed in France and the women who supported them. Today the 71st anniversary of D-Day, 160,000 troops landed in Normandy. More than 9,000 died. The invasion changed the course of World War II.

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