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Anger After Utah Police Shooting Video Uploaded to YouTube; Viagra-Type Pill for Women Closer to Approval; Woman Reveals Brother Abused by Hastert. Aired 2:30-3p ET

Aired June 5, 2015 - 14:30   ET

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[14:00:11] BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: We first told you this story about Dillion Taylor back in August of last year. An officer shot and killed him in South Salt Lake, which is separate from Salt Lake City, after police responded to a call about a man with a gun.

When I spoke with the aunt days after her nephew was killed, he was at this gas station and he was wearing these headphones. That might have kept him from hearing the officer's commands.

That said, I want to play part of this for you. The first part is silent as the officer arrives on the scene. You see a group of people see the unit arrive. And you'll hear the officer turn on the audio on his body camera.

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OFC. BRON CRUZ, SOUTH SALT LAKE CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT: Get your hands out now! Get your hands out! Get your -- get them out!

(GUNFIRE)

Shots fired, shots fired. Get me medical here now.

(EXPLETIVE DELETED)! Hands. Give me your hands. (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!

(SHOUTING)

UNIDENTIFIED POLICE OFFICER: I couldn't get my camera on. Did you get yours?

CRUZ: Yeah, I pushed it.

He was reaching.

166, get medical here now. 25-year-old male who's not conscious. He's not breathing.

Yeah, yeah, check them out.

It's clear.

(AUDIO PAUSE)

CRUZ: Come on.

What the hell were you reaching for, man?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Later in the video, the officer says he cannot find a weapon on Taylor. The district attorney said Officer Bron Cruz was cleared. The officer reportedly thought Taylor -- with his hands around his waistband, thought he had a weapon, thought he possibly had a gun.

With me now, I have Cody Taylor, Dillion's half brother. Also with me, Dillion's aunt, who uploaded the video.

I want to welcome you back. Again, my condolences.

CODY TAYLOR, HALF BROTHER OF DILLION TAYLOR: Thank you.

GINA THAYNE, AUNT OF DILLION TAYLOR: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Gina, to you.

We spoke last fall. Again, this officer involved has since been cleared. The justice system has played out. You decided to upload this officer's body cam, the entire thing, just a couple days ago. Tell me why.

THAYNE: There's so much controversy to it that people aren't aware of the brutality that's truly going on out there. I get choked up just even hearing it. I can't even watch it all the way through anymore. But we need to make some changes. You know, Dillion was brutalized and shot down in a parking lot as are a lot of other people in Utah. It seems to be an epidemic. The public don't know -- you know, they don't know this is happening. They believe if they don't see it, it's not happening. And even the independent review board, you know, what were they thinking? They didn't even see the headphones. They said it was inconclusive. So what did they really investigate? What was their independent investigation?

So we, the people, have to take charge and try and make change. If this is what it takes to make that change, for the public to see what's really going on, then that's what I did.

BALDWIN: I can tell, obviously, you still have questions. I want to ask you about specific changes you have in mind in a minute.

But Cody, to you.

Have you in the time that's pass the since last August, have you, has your family heard from Officer Cruz at all? If so, would you mind sharing what he said to you all?

TAYLOR: We haven't heard anything from Cruz at all about anything to do with the case. I haven't heard about whether he's on the force again or -- I haven't heard anything.

[14:35:03] BALDWIN: Because he was cleared. So if he wanted to return to his job, he could have. Do either of you know if he has?

By the way, we reached out to the police department. We just haven't heard back yet.

TAYLOR: Right. As far as I know -- I have no idea. I haven't heard anything about Bron Cruz returning or not. I have no clue.

BALDWIN: OK.

THAYNE: I have no idea either. I've actually gone to a couple neighborhood meetings to try and implement change, and I have met face to face with Chief Burbank and he didn't want to give me the time of day. I have not heard anything. I haven't heard any apologies, nothing from their entire department.

BALDWIN: I know this is incredibly sensitive, but, Gina, here's one question I have. When we spoke last August, you know, you told me it seemed like it was your nephew, he had his ear buds in, that he couldn't hear the officer talking to him because of his headphones. But I've watched the video through a few times. It appears that you do see -- I mean, very clearly the officer pointing this gun at your nephew. Then your nephew turns around. It sounds like he's saying, "What's up, fool," and doesn't put his hands up.

THAYNE: I'm not even seeing that. I see him turn around, and I don't think he's saying, "What's up, fool," I think he's scared to death and trying to, one, pull his pants up, pull the ear buds out at the same time, and prove that he doesn't have a weapon.

Dillion did nothing at that very moment to make Bron Cruz feel threatened. They did not commit a crime. The 911 caller that called in was obviously in an altered state of mind, but she clearly said there was no threat, there was no threat to her or anyone else. She called in because they looked like they could be up to no good. How did that get to Bron Cruz to be such a threat?

BALDWIN: When you talk about wanting change and being in the community, what specifically do you want to change?

THAYNE: You know, when this happened, they held my son and my other nephew, Dillion's brother, Jarrell (ph), they held them for probably well over four hours in handcuffs. They made them write statements at the most vulnerable state they could be in. Bron Cruz was taken in and was released and given two weeks to give his statement. He was also let go for -- you know, paid leave for due process. I believe they need to make some changes and come in and remove the officers from the crime scene, place them away from one another, put gag orders on them, and have them write their statements at that moment when they're most vulnerable. Maybe we might get some accountability.

BALDWIN: Gina Thayne and Cody Taylor, thank you so much.

THAYNE: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Coming up, we are learning today the Boston terror suspect who was shot and killed by police thought the FBI tried to contact him by phone nearly three years ago. Coming up, we'll speak with a former Boston police commissioner. How long was this man on their radar? I mean, lots of questions for him. Stay with me.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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[14:41:55] DR. ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You may have heard the phrase "sitting is the new smoking." A sedentary lifestyle could increase the risk of all sorts of diseases -- heart disease, diabetes, and even some cancers.

Well, now health authorities in the United Kingdom have come up with recommendations. They say that office workers should be on their feet at least two hours a day, standing, a little light walking, just not sitting. They hope that people will actually get up to four hours a day. So one of the things you can do is get a standing desk, elevate your computer, and stand and move around a little while you work. Also, just take breaks. A little can go a long way. 15 minutes here, 15 minutes there. Take a walk with a friend. Have a walking meeting. It's amazing how much you can get done.

But really, Mother Nature never intended us to sit for hours and hours at a time. So move around as much as you can.

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BALDWIN: Elizabeth Cohen, thank you.

Coming up, a little follow-up on the little pink pill, one step closer to approval. We're talking kind of like Viagra for women. Up next, we'll speak with someone who participated in this clinical trial, how it worked for her. We'll talk to her husband. We're going to go there, coming up next.

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[14:45:00] BALDWIN: Final decision by August 18th, once steps are taken to minimize its side effects.

Here's one woman who participated in these clinical trials. She testified in front of the FDA just yesterday.

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AMANDA PARRISH, INVOLVED IN CLINICAL TRIAL: A silent wall of shame grew between us, shame of guilt on my part for not wanting to have sex with a man whom I loved and hurt on his part wondering what he was doing wrong. Often pretending to be asleep before he came to bed, we suffered separately in silence, seriously threatening our relationship. I was fortunate to be enrolled on the clinical trial for Flibanserin, and what a relationship-saving eight months that was. As if the light switch had been turned on, so was I. Once again sexually confident, I returned to the flirty and initiating woman Ben fell in love with.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: You heard her voice. Here she is. Amanda Parrish and her husband, Ben, join me now.

Welcome to both of you.

Kudos to you for sharing something so incredibly intimate with the FDA and the rest of us.

AMANDA PARRISH: Thank you. It's good to be here.

BALDWIN: So this drug would be the first of its kind out there. Compare that to the 26 sex drugs men now have to choose from.

Beginning with you, Amanda, spill it. What did it do for you?

(LAUGHTER)

AMANDA PARRISH: Well, unlike the 26 drugs out there for men, Flibanserin is not a functional problem. For women, I think the issue is different. It's not a matter of not being able to have sex. It's not wanting to get started. So for me, it simply brought me back to where I had been a few years before and brought me back to wanting to initiate, to wanting to want my husband, and becoming an active participant rather than an obligatory participant.

BALDWIN: And, Ben, I'm watching you watch your wife. I'm wondering, when she said yes to participate in this trial, you know, were you supportive, were you nervous? How were you feeling?

BEN PARRISH, HUSBAND OF AMANDA: Well, you know, I was surprised initially. I knew an issue had developed, but when she first told me about this trial and she told me about this disorder that I had never heard of called hypoactive sexual desire disorder, you know, I was a little skeptical. But I thought, what the heck? Here's a possibility of a solution. So I quickly warmed up to the idea. And I really warmed up to the idea a couple weeks into the trial --

(LAUGHTER)

-- when the drug worked. So it turned out to be great.

AMANDA PARRISH: He was great.

BALDWIN: That's awesome. I will take your word for it.

But what kinds of -- without totally going there --

(LAUGHTER)

-- what kinds of changes did you notice, to both of you?

AMANDA PARRISH: You know, for me and for women, I think in general, so much of our self-esteem and our self-confidence is tied to how we are intimately connected with our partners. I know personally I had sort of withdrawn, become more irritable and moody. And once I was on this drug for a few weeks, it was as if literally the light switch turned back on. I felt confident again. I was flirty. I would get flutters during the middle of the day. I started leaving Ben gifts in his car or notes on the mirror. So it really just gave me a confidence back that, you know, I want this and this is the man I love and I actually want to be with him. It was a huge relief to know there was actually a medical condition that I was diagnosed with --

BALDWIN: Right.

PARRISH: -- rather than something was just wrong.

BALDWIN: Right. And I think it's important -- I need to jump in because I had two doctors with me yesterday and they were explaining the difference. Even though this is dubbed the fEMAle Viagra, this is very different. Viagra creates a physical change. It's very physical. With this pill, it's an anti-depressant. It messes with your dopamine and serotonin in all the right ways. So it's not at all the same.

That said, there was a critic who also testified on Capitol Hill calling this a mediocre aphrodisiac and talked about minimal benefits and maximum side effects. FDA rejected it twice before now, ultimately giving it the green light. Can you tell about the side effects?

AMANDA PARRISH: I can. It's tragic to me it took three times. I guess third time's a charm. It was a great day yesterday. For me, personally, I found the drug to work really well. It was not modest effect, it was significant effect, and with nonexistent side effects. And I think that was part of the FDA's issue. It's hard to monitor a woman's increase in desire because that's very subjective. And an increase in sexual events or satisfying events from two to three or two to four may only seem like two events, which is small in number. It's actually a two-fold or 200 percent increase. So for us, it worked great. It got us right back to where we were before. And literally, I suffered no negative side effects, only the positive ones that came with Flibanserin.

[14:50:09] BALDWIN: Ben, final thoughts before I let you guys go?

BEN PARRISH: We're very passionate about this. We're both willing to speak out because we know this drug works. It worked for us. And we're excited for not only Amanda and me but for other women and other couples out there.

AMANDA PARRISH: What a great day for women yesterday.

BALDWIN: Yeah.

BEN PARRISH: Yes, great day.

BALDWIN: There you go. Hallelujah.

(LAUGHTER)

Amanda Parrish and her husband, Ben. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

AMANDA PARRISH: Thank you.

BEN PARRISH: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Coming up next, we'll take you to Boston and talk about a terror suspect who police say planned to murder officers, and he thought the FBI tried to actually contact him a couple of years ago. How long was he really on police radar? We'll talk to a former police commissioner there in Boston who oversaw the police department during the entire Boston Marathon bombing, during the investigation. He will join me live, next.

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[14:55:12] BALDWIN: Today, a private funeral is planned for the American terror suspect shot and killed in Boston earlier this week. Today, we're also learning about this online comment Usaama Rahim allegedly posted on Facebook. As far back as 2012, a law enforcement official confirms the terror suspect posted that he thought the FBI was calling him on his private phone. Rahim posted this on Facebook, quote, "Damn FBI calling my phone, they just want any opportunity to drag a Muslim into some drama."

In fact, law enforcement was so certain Rahim was about to turn violent recently, he was being watched 24/7.

So I want to talk about this with former Boston police commissioner, Ed Davis.

Commissioner Davis, a pleasure to have you on. Thanks for taking the time.

ED DAVIS, FORMER COMMISSIONER, BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT: Hi, Brooke. Thank you. It's good to see you.

BALDWIN: Just to remind our viewers, you are the man, really front and center during the investigation after the Boston Marathon bombing. That said, coming into all of this with that perspective, with you first heard about these alleged plots here against members of law enforcement by people apparently radicalized by ISIS in your town, Commissioner, what were your first thoughts?

DAVIS: Well, I certainly am struck by the fact that just after the Tsarnaev trial is finished up, we have this other attack. It's really troubling. It's clear that ISIS is gaining some traction in their attempts to radicalize people here in the United States.

BALDWIN: In the wake of the marathon bombings, you know, what changed within Boston police, be it tactics, awareness, counterterrorism efforts, do you think that maybe made a difference in this particular investigation?

DAVIS: Well, the level of communication is excellent. The JTTF has been working closely with the Boston Police Department. We have officers assigned to that unit. The level of training has increased, both in sort of being able to identify problematic behaviors but also in being able to respond to these incidents. So there's a lot that's going on right now. Commissioner Evans is working diligently with the head of the FBI in Boston. It's a very cooperative environment.

BALDWIN: In your years as Boston's top cop, I'm curious just how much of your day to day was in surveilling or thwarting potential terror plots.

DAVIS: Well, the JTTF has hundreds of cases that they work on every single day. So we have representatives on that unit. I'm briefed weekly on the cases and how the cases are moving along. I don't think people realize the amount of work that goes into the surveillance, and also, you know, just being prepared for this type of incident.

BALDWIN: I talked to a couple of leaders in the community right after this had happened, people who had been asked by police and FBI to watch the surveillance video. That happened not 24 hours after the shooting early Tuesday morning. I think that really speaks to, what, the transparency among law enforcement in your city.

DAVIS: Right. We've had a long history of working very closely with the ministers. It goes back to 1993 when the Boston Miracle occurred where the homicide rate was reduced from 190 to 33. That was by Paul Evans, who was police commissioner. Bill Evans, his brother, is continuing that policy. We've been working on it literally for over 20 years now.

BALDWIN: Ed Davis, former Boston police commissioner, thank you so much.

DAVIS: Thank you, Brooke.

BALDWIN: And we continue on. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

Beginning with this bombshell. Allegation about this man, here seen to the right of President Clinton. This is former House speaker, Dennis Hastert. He's now accused of sexually abusing a high school student. This woman has now come forward. She says it was her now- deceased brother, Steven Reinboldt, who endured years of sexual abuse in high school at the hands of the then-wrestling coach, Dennis Hastert.

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JOLENE BURDGE, SISTER OF STEVE REINBOLDT: And I asked him, "Stevie, when was your first same-sex experience?" And he just looked at me and said, "It was with Dennis Hastert." I said, "Why didn't you ever tell anybody, Stevie? He was your teacher. Why didn't you ever tell anybody?" And he just looked at me and said, "Who is ever going to believe me?"

(END VIDEO CLIP)

[14:49:52] BALDWIN: This is the first time of an alleged abuse victim to emerge since Hastert was indicted for lying to the FBI in trying to pay out $3.5 million in so-called hush money.