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Obama Gives Medal Of Honor To Private Henry Johnson and Sergeant William Shemin; CNN Learns FBI Is Using Small Fleet Of Surveillance Planes In The U.S. Without Warrants. Aired at 11:30a-12p ET

Aired June 2, 2015 - 11:30   ET

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[11:30:00] BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sons who served in World War 1 nearly a century ago. These two soldiers were roughly the same age, dropped into the battlefields of France at roughly the same time.

They both risked their own lives to save the lives of others. They both left us decades ago before we could give them the full recognition that they deserved. But it's never too late to say thank you.

Today, we present America's highest military declaration, the Medal of Honor, to Private Henry Johnson and Sergeant William Shemin. I want to begin by welcoming and thanking everyone who made this day possible.

Family, friends, admirers. Some of you have worked for years to honor these heroes, to give them the honor they should have received a long time ago. We are grateful that you never gave up. We are appreciative of your efforts.

As a young man Henry Johnson joined millions of other African- Americans on the Great Migration from the Rural south to the industrial north. A people in search of a better life. He landed in Albany where he mixed sodas at the pharmacy, worked in a coal yard and as a porter at a train station.

When the United States entered World War 1, Henry enlisted. He joined one of only a few units that he could. The all Black 369th Infantry Regiment, the Harlem Hellfighters and soon he was headed overseas.

At the time our military was segregated, most Black soldiers served in labor battalions, not combat units, but the General Parsing sent the 369th to fight with the French army which accepted them as their own.

Quickly, the Hellfighters lived up to their name and in early hours of May 15th, 1918, and Henry Johnson became a legend. His battalion was in northern France tucked into a trench. Some slept but he couldn't.

Henry and another soldier, Needham Roberts stood century along No Man's Land. In the predawn it was pitch Black and silent and then a click. The sound of wire cutters.

A German raiding party, at least a dozen soldiers, maybe more, fired a hail of bullets. Henry fired back until his rifle was empty. Then he and Needham threw grenades. Both of them were hit. Needham lost consciousness, two enemy soldiers began to carry him away while another provided cover firing at Henry. But Henry refused to let them take his brother in arms. He shoved another magazine into his rifle. It jammed. He turned the gun around and swung it at one of the enemy knocking him down.

Then he grabbed the only weapon he had left, his knife, hi Bolo Knife and went to rescue Needham. Henry took down one enemy soldier, then the other. The soldier he'd knocked down with his rifle recovered, and Henry was wounded again. But armed with just his knife, Henry took him down, too.

And finally, reinforcements arrived and the last enemy soldier fled. As the sun rose, the scale of what happened became clear. In just a few minutes of fighting, two Americans had defeated an entire raiding party. And Henry Johnson saved his fellow soldier from being taken prisoner.

Henry became one of our most famous soldiers of the war. His picture was printed on recruitment posters and ads for Victory War Stamps. Former President Teddy Roosevelt wrote that he was one of the bravest men in the war. In 1919, Henry rode triumphantly in a victory parade. Crowds lined Fifth Avenue for miles, cheering this American soldier.

Henry was one of the first Americans to receive France's highest award for valor. But his own nation didn't award him anything - not even the Purple Heart, though he had been wounded 21 times. Nothing for his bravery, though he had saved a fellow solder at great risk to himself. His injuries left him crippled. He couldn't find work. His marriage fell apart. And in his early 30s, he passed away.

[11:35:00] Now, America can't change what happened to Henry Johnson. We can't change what happened to too many soldiers like him, who went uncelebrated because our nation judged them by the color of their skin and not the content of their character. But we can do our best to make it right. In 1996, President Clinton awarded Henry Johnson a Purple Heart. And today, 97 years after his extraordinary acts of courage and selflessness, I'm proud to award him the Medal of Honor.

We are honored to be joined today by some very special guests - veterans of Henry's regiment, the 369th. Thank you, to each of you, for your service. And I would ask Command Sergeant Major Louis Wilson of the New York National Guard to come forward and accept this medal on Private Johnson's behalf.

MILITARY AIDE: The President of the United States of America authorized buy Act of Congress, March 3, 1863, has awarded in the name of Congress the Medal of Honor to Private Henry Johnson, United States Army. Private Henry Johnson distinguished himself by extraordinary acts of heroism at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as a member of Company C, 369th Infantry Regiment, 93rd Infantry Division, American Expeditionary Forces, on May 15, 1918, during combat operations against the enemy on the front lines of the Western Front in France. In the early morning hours, Private Johnson and another soldier were

on sentry duty at a forward outpost when they received a surprise attack from the German raiding party consisting of at least 12 soldiers. While under intense enemy fire and despite receiving significant wounds, Private Johnson mounted a brave retaliation, resulting in several enemy casualties. When his fellow soldier was badly wounded and being carried away by the enemy, Private Johnson exposed himself to great danger by advancing from his position to engage the two enemy captors in hand-to-hand combat. Wielding only a knife and gravely wounded himself, Private Johnson continued fighting, defeating the two captors and rescuing the wounded soldier. Displaying great courage, he continued to hold back the larger enemy force until the defeated enemy retreated, leaving behind a large cache of weapons and equipment and providing valuable intelligence.

Without Private Johnson's quick actions and continued fighting, even in the face of almost certain death, the enemy might have succeeded in capturing prisoners in the outpost and abandoning valuable intelligence. Private Johnson's extraordinary heroism and selflessness above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, Company C, 369th Infantry Regiment, 93rd Infantry Division, and the United States Army.

OBAMA: Growing up in Bayonne, New Jersey, William Shemin loved sports - football, wrestling, boxing, swimming. If it required physical and mental toughness, and it made your heart pump, your muscles ache, he was all in. As a teenager, he even played semi-pro baseball. So when America entered the war, and posters asked if he was tough enough, there was no question about it - he was going to serve. Too young to enlist? No problem. He puffed his chest and lied about his age. And that's how William Shemin joined the 47th Infantry Regiment, 4th Division, and shipped out for France.

[11:40:00] On August 7th, 1918, on the Western Front, the Allies were hunkered down in one trench, the Germans in another, separated by about 150 yards of open space - just a football field and a half. But that open space was a bloodbath. Soldier after soldier ventured out, and soldier after soldier was mowed down. So those still in the trenches were left with a terrible choice: die trying to rescue your fellow soldier, or watch him die, knowing that part of you will die along with him.

William Shemin couldn't stand to watch. He ran out into the hell of No Man's Land and dragged a wounded comrade to safety. And then he did it again, and again. Three times he raced through heavy machine gunfire. Three times he carried his fellow soldiers to safety.

The battle stretched on for days. Eventually, the platoon's leadership broke down. Too many officers had become casualties. So William stepped up and took command. He reorganized the depleted squads. Every time there was a lull in combat, he led rescues of the wounded. As a lieutenant later described it, William was "cool, calm, intelligent, and personally utterly fearless." A young kid who lied about his age grew up fast in war. And he received accolades for his valor, including the Distinguished Service Cross. When he came home, William went to school for forestry and began a

nursery business in the Bronx. It was hard work, lots of physical labor - just like he liked it. He married a red-head, blue-eyed woman named Bertha Schiffer, and they had three children who gave them 14 grandchildren. He bought a house upstate, where the grandkids spent their summers swimming and riding horses. He taught them how to salute. He taught them the correct way to raise the flag every morning and lower and fold it every night. He taught them how to be Americans.

William stayed in touch with his fellow veterans, too. And when World War II came, William went and talked to the Army about signing up again. By then, his war injuries had given him a terrible limp. But he treated that limp just like he treated his age all those years ago - pay no attention to that, he said. He knew how to build roads, he knew camouflage - maybe there was a place for him in this war, too. To Bertha's great relief, the Army said that the best thing William could do for his country was to keep running his business and take care of his family.

His daughter, Elsie - who's here today with what seems like a platoon of Shemins - has a theory about what drove her father to serve. He was the son of Russian immigrants, and he was devoted to his Jewish faith. "His family lived through the pogroms," she says. "They saw towns destroyed and children killed. And then they came to America. And here they found a haven - a home - success - and my father and his sister both went to college. All that, in one generation. That's what America meant to him. And that's why he'd do anything for this country."

Well, Elsie, as much as America meant to your father, he means even more to America. It takes our nation too long sometimes to say so - because Sergeant Shemin served at a time when the contributions and heroism of Jewish Americans in uniform were too often overlooked. But William Shemin saved American lives. He represented our nation with honor. And so it is my privilege, on behalf of the American people, to make this right and finally award the Medal of Honor to Sergeant William Shemin. I want to invite his daughters - Elsie and Ina - 86 and 83, and gorgeous - to accept this medal on their father's behalf.

MILITARY AIDE: The President of the United States of America, authorized by Act of Congress, March 3, 1863, has awarded in the name of Congress the Medal of Honor to Sergeant William Shemin, United States Army.

[11:45:00] Sergeant William Shemin distinguished himself by extraordinary acts of heroism at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as a rifleman with G Company, 2nd Battalion, 47th Infantry Regiment, 4th Division, American Expeditionary Forces, in connection with combat operations against an armed enemy on the Vessel River, near Bazoches, France from August 7th to August 9th, 1918.

Sergeant Shemin upon three different occasions left cover and crossed an open space of 150 yards, repeatedly exposing himself to heavy machine gun and rifle fire to rescue wounded. After officers and seniors noncommissioned officers had become casualties, Sergeant Shemin took command of the platoon and displayed great initiative under fire until wounded on August 9th.

Sergeant Shemin's extraordinary heroism and selflessness above and beyond the call of duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself with G Company, 2nd Battalion, 47th Infantry Regiment, 4th Division, American Expeditionary Forces, and the United States Army.

OBAMA: Well, it has taken a long time for Henry Johnson and William Shemin to receive the recognition they deserve. And there are surely others whose heroism is still unacknowledged and uncelebrated. So we have work to do, as a nation, to make sure that all of our heroes' stories are told. And we'll keep at it, no matter how long it takes. America is the country we are today because of people like Henry and William - Americans who signed up to serve, and rose to meet their responsibilities - and then went beyond. The least we can do is to say: We know who you are. We know what you did for us. We are forever grateful.

May God bless the fallen of all of our wars. May He watch over our veterans and their families and all those who serve today. May God bless the United States of America.

With that, I'd ask the Chaplain to return to the podium for benediction.

CHAPLAIN: Lord of all, as we go forward today, we ask you to instill within us your peace, your courage, your strength. Lead us to all that is good and brings honor to your creation. Help us to defeat the evils we face each day. Bless us with the wisdom to celebrate and recognize our capacity for good, to free the oppressed. Let us serve all with valor as these men have shown and witnessed to us today. Be upon us now and remain with us always. Amen.

OBAMA: With that, we conclude the formal ceremony. But I welcome everybody to join in a wonderful reception. And let's give our Medal of Honor winners one big round of applause.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN HOST: There you have it.

[11:50:00] JOHN BERMAN, CNN HOST: It is never too late to say thank you. President Obama concurring his 44th and 45th medals of honor on two heroes from 100 years ago.

BOLDUAN: Yes. The highest military declaration, two soldiers there, I mean, when you hear those stories you can tell absolutely that they're heroes over a century, almost a century ago that they fought for our country and then - and then decades ago have lost their lives, but as the president said and John said, it's never too late to say thank you and you see them right there and how wonderful was that moment when you see...

BERMAN: Elsie and Ida.

BOLDUAN: Sergeant William Shemin's daughters up there you can see what it meant for them and what it means for our country. And I think it's important to take a moment to stop and say thank you and to honor their service.

BERMAN: I'm glad we watched. I hoped you enjoyed it as well. There is other news out there today. Look in the sky. FBI surveillance planes may be flying over your city. The FBI says they don't need warrants to do so and they have front companies for some reason set up to keep these somewhat private. Find out why, next.

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BERMAN: New this morning, CNN has learned that the FBI is using a small fleet of what you could call spy planes here in the United States. The planes are for investigations and surveillance and the FBI says it doesn't need a warrant to use them. They say the flights are not secret, but they register the planes under front companies.

[11:55:00] BOLDUAN: The planes are carrying video and cell phone surveillance technology, but what are the planes picking up, who are they tracking, what are they used for. Justice correspondent Pamela Brown has more on this and a whole lot of questions as we're laying them out there. What is the FBI saying about this? What are you picking up?

PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely. So we know, John and Kate, that aerial surveillance by the FBI is nothing new but we're learning more about the size and scope of the programs. So a review by the associated press coverage this week reported that the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states over a 30-day period.

And the report also said planes were masked by the existence of at least 13 fictitious companies. Now in response to this, the FBI released a statement saying that its unit is no secret and described the secrecy as protected for operational security purposes. So essentially they're saying this isn't a secret but we don't publicizes this either.

Now, an official spokes to the existence of the fleet of planes are registered under those fictitious companies because the FBI wants to be as discreet as possible, essentially, it doesn't want people to put what they're doing on their radar. They don't want to tip off the bad guys, the criminals they're trying to monitor with the planes the FBI is doing so.

Now, the planes are equipped with electronic surveillance used with FBI and state and local officials. Such as during the Baltimore riots the FBI used surveillance aircraft at the request of Baltimore police. And just to point this out the official I spoke with says that before this plane is used it is signed off but there's no court warrant for it which for some raises a level of concern. The ACLU has issues with this.

BERMAN: So no warrant, who approves it if there's no warrant?

BROWN: So I'm told that it's an approved at various levels within DOJ. So you have the Department of Justice and then you have levels at the FBI all the way - sometimes goes to the top and there are the field offices as well that are involved with the approval process, but there are a certain number of restrictions and guidelines that must be followed that were set forth by DOJ and the inspector general looked at this program and found that it was legal and constitutional, however a lot of that report was redacted. So there are still some questions about it. John and Kate.

BOLDUAN: And as you point out there are clearly some people who are crying foul when it comes to civil liberties. Any action being taken in that regard?

BROWN: So we know that the ACLU has spoken about these programs, not just the FBI, DEA and other agencies have similar surveillance programs and the real controversy here if you want to call it that, sometimes these surveillance aircraft picks up personal information on people. It scoops it up as part of the investigation and I'm told that information is discarded but an it's unclear how quickly it's discarded and sometimes handed over to prosecutors to help with a case. It provides evidence. There is certainly controversy in that regard.

BOLDUAN: All right. Pamela Brown tracking it for us, Pamela it's great to see you, thanks so much.

BROWN: Thank you.

BOLDUAN: And thank all of you for joining us "AT THIS HOUR."

BERMAN: "LEGAL VIEW" with Ashleigh Banfield starts after a quick break.

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