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[08:00:00] ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: -- forcing the NSA to immediately stop collecting telephone metadata on millions of Americans across the country.

RAND PAUL, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They want to take just a little bit of your liberty, but they get it by making you afraid.

JONES: Senator Rand Paul blasting the domestic surveillance program, calling it an illegal spy program on Americans. This as counterterrorism officials also lose the ability to obtain roving wiretaps allowing them to listen in on potential terror suspects even as they change cell phones. With the advancement of ISIS across the Middle East some senators say this program is need now more than ever.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, (R) ARIZONA: Isn't this program as critical as it's ever been since its inception, given the fact that the Middle East is literally on fire and we are losing everywhere?

JONES: The NSA's authority will likely be restored as early as Wednesday. The Republican leadership aides expect a final vote on the compromise bill, the USA Freedom Act. The bill amends the Patriot Act requiring a specific targeted warrant to obtain any call records from telecommunications companies.

HARRY REID, (D-NV) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: We're in the mess we are today because of majority leader. The majority leader should have seen this coming.

JONES: Democratic Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid blaming his Republican counterpart Mitch McConnell for not having a plan. After an about-face majority leader McConnell, who had wanted to renew the Patriot Act as is, now says passing the compromise bill is the only realistic way forward.

MITCH MCCONNELL, (R-KY) SENATE MINORITY LEADER: I believe this is a program that strikes a critical balance between privacy on the one hand, and national security on the other.

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JONES: Now, I have one update for you. On the way over here just now I talked to an aide to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. He told me there could be a vote for final passage on the USA Freedom Act now as soon as tomorrow. Certain things have to fall in line for that to take place tomorrow. This is the Senate.

I should also mention, though, that there are some votes likely on amendments that could change the bill a little bit, and if it does they'll have to send it back to the House of Representatives for their consideration. So this is still not over yet. Back to you guys.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Politics creating unusual bedfellows. You have Senator John McCain now with the alliance with the White House, because they, too, are slamming lawmakers, saying that the controversial NSA program actually ensured national security and that every moment without it in place is a mistake. Critics, of course, fighting back.

So let's get to CNN's senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta. That part of the story, you don't ordinarily see the White House saying yes, listen to John McCain.

JIM ACOSTA, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Chris. This is Washington. There are only strange bedfellows in this town. Good morning.

The White House is sounding off on the expiration of these NSA programs, warning their temporary lapse could impact counterterrorism investigations. Aides to the president are not calling out senators by name but it's clear who the White House is annoyed with this morning, and that is Senator Rand Paul.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest released a statement last night praising the Senate for moving forward with the bill for the Patriot Act. But there's also a thinly veiled dig at Senator Paul. We'll put it up on screen. It says, "We call on the Senate to ensure this irresponsible lapse in authorities is as short lived as possible. On a matter as critical as our national security individual senators must put aside their partisan motivations and act swiftly. The American people deserve nothing less."

Now, these expired NSA programs include the bulk phone data collection that Athena mentioned, but also roving wiretaps which can keep track of terrorism suspects who change phones, and this lone wolf provision which can track a suspect who is not tied to a terrorist investigation.

The White House had warned all last week that there was no plan b if these NSA programs expire, but the reality is counterterrorism officials explain investigators may have some workarounds to continue pursuing suspects in investigation that had begun before the lapse in these programs may be grandfathered in. But Alisyn, cases that are potentially opened today could be affected, that is the danger. Alisyn.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Jim thanks so much for that.

All this unfolding as the self-described national security hawk prepares to enter the race for president. South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham will become the ninth Republican to join a growing field. CNN's chief congressional correspondent Dana Bash has more. Good morning, Dana.

DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning Alisyn. He's going to make his announcement here in his small hometown of Central, South Carolina. You mentioned the fact that he is one of the leading foreign policy hawks. No surprise then that I'm told that that is going to be a key part of his presidential announcement later this morning, talking about the need to stay aggressive on the national stage and that he believes he is the best commander in chief to do that.

But also, I'm told, that he is going to discuss the need to reach across the aisle. Lindsey Graham is actually also known at times to make compromises. Immigration reform is an example that actually hurt him with his party. He's going to talk, I'm told, about the need to continue to do that on problems facing this country, Social Security and Medicare.

And the other thing, Alisyn, that he's going to talk about is that those of us who see him on television a lot talking about these issues may not know his bio, the fact that his parents, both of his parents, died when he was in college within 15 months of one another.

[08:05:08] He ended up having to raise his then-13-year-old daughter. He joined the Air Force, adopted her so that she could get military benefits, and I'm told that she is going to introduce him. So that is going to be what we're going to see today.

You might ask as I toss back to you and Chris why somebody like him, though, who is showing at one percent of the polls nationally and in states like Iowa, would run? Why would actually do this? He's not alone in that. And the answer is, he wants to make an impact on the debate, and also the not so dirty little secret before a lot of these people running is that they saw what happened in 2012 and that there wasn't a lot of fervor for the frontrunner Mitt Romney, and they think that if there was somebody who could rise to the top, that that would have happened, and at this time that's why you're probably seeing so many people jump in, even those who are barely registering in the polls, Chris and Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: That's the answer, Dana. When is it OK to be at one percent in the polls? When the number one person is only at 10. That's when it's OK. All right, Dana, thank you very much. We'll pick it up here now.

And we have someone who is in the race to be president, newly declared Republican presidential candidate, former three-term governor of New York, Governor George Pataki. Governor, good to have you back.

GEORGE PATAKI, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Good morning, Chris. Nice being back.

CUOMO: So let's deal with the issue and then we'll get to the politics.

PATAKI: Sure.

CUOMO: The big ticket this morning is what's going on with the NSA. Do you believe it was wrong to allow this lapse in when we have active protections --

PATAKI: Chris, absolutely. I think it's very dangerous. This is probably the most dangerous time for Americans here since September 11th. And to now have this void where the NSA cannot track lone wolves, they cannot use roving wiretaps, taps against people they understand probably are looking to engage in terrorist acts, is completely wrong. It's dangerous. And I fear for our safety.

CAMEROTA: Is Rand Paul solely to blame here?

PATAKI: I think Rand Paul is significantly responsible for the fact they couldn't do anything last night. There's overwhelming bipartisan support for some legislation, if not renewal of the Patriot Act, passage of the USA Freedom Act.

CAMEROTA: So what do you think he's doing?

PATAKI: I can't speak for him. But I think the idea that anyone would want to see an attack in America so that he gets political blame is outrageous. The thought that someone would want to see Americans killed for some political reason is just beyond the line to me.

CUOMO: What do you think about the balance of privacy and security? Because that's a big statement from the governor of New York during 9/11 to say this is the worst since then.

PATAKI: Yes, Chris, I think that is the key, is how do you balance our personal liberty and our safety? And I think they have worked very hard to do that. When Edward Snowden first revealed this program, I was outraged. And I thought how can the NSA be sitting around listening to my phone calls to my kids?

But I looked into it since that point and that's not the case. The only thing they are authorized to do is to collect numbers. They can't even look at those numbers, let alone know who is on that phone call or what the content of the call is, without going to a court and getting the equivalent of a warrant and proving there is a reason to find out what that contact is. I think losing that authority is very dangerous. We could know someone here is planning to engage in a terrorist attack, but we can't find out who they've within talking to here. That is dangerous.

CAMEROTA: We want to ask you about another story we've been covering this morning, and that is that across the country we're seeing a spike in violent crime. There are cities like Baltimore, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York City --

PATAKI: And New York.

CAMEROTA: Yes, absolutely. That after 20 years of decrease is seeing a significant rise. Now, what do you think is going on? PATAKI: I think part of it is the demonization of the police. The

fact that instead of seeing men and women who put on the uniform to protect our communities as our friends and protectors, they've been called occupiers, they have been called people who are out to hurt the community. So when you demonize the police and create this distance between a community and the police, it is extremely dangerous.

And then we've had in the name of protecting civil rights taking away ability of the police, like here in New York, to engage in stop and frisk. We were the most dangerous state in America when I took office. We were very safe when I left. But now they've undone these policies. And they were aimed at stopping criminals before they had the chance to pull the trigger or hold up that shopkeeper. Now they don't have that authority.

CUOMO: The privacy security thing?

PATAKI: Yes.

CUOMO: That came into play there also.

PATAKI: That's right.

CUOMO: Obviously Commissioner Bratton, one of the architects of the original broken window strategy that helped New York, Boston, and other places. The stop and frisk they said well it was too much. It was too much. You're only going after blacks in poor areas --

PATAKI: Chris --

CUOMO: -- privacy security.

PATAKI: It may well have gone beyond what it should have. But you're always looking to improve and tweak programs. But what happens here is we went from where we had very safe streets, the safest large city in the world, to where we completely undid a program that was working.

[08:10:03] We at one point had a federal court monitor overlooking the NYPD when they had made the city so safe, and yet in Chicago where people were being killed by the dozens, people were looking the other way. Aggressive policing works. It has to be balanced against our liberty. We should have enormous respect for the men and women who put on the uniform to walk the streets to protect our liberty. Tragically, for political reasons, some have attacked them.

CAMEROTA: OK, let's talk about your getting into the race as of last Thursday. How are you feeling?

PATAKI: I feel great. I went up and announced in New Hampshire. We had a tremendous crowd, a lot of enthusiasm. And I crossed New Hampshire after that. The reaction has been very good.

CAMEROTA: So looking at the latest poll numbers, the latest Quinnipiac poll.

PATAKI: I'm hoping to hit one. Chris was talking earlier about 10 to one. I'm hoping to get a bounce to where I get there.

CAMEROTA: You're not exactly even at one percent yet.

PATAKI: I totally understand.

CAMEROTA: Right. So how are you going to get traction?

PATAKI: You work hard. You have good ideas. You get the opportunity to express your views to the American people. I'm going to back to New Hampshire this week. I'm doing everything to get the message out there.

I think, Chris, what you were saying earlier when the top are a ten it means it's wide open. And I think it means the Republican primary voters, the Republican voters, are looking for someone they believe can lead this country, they believe has the vision and the experience. And they don't know much about me. But I hope as they learn more about me they will see that I do have that vision, and I certainly have the experience.

CUOMO: And you come with a big calling card. You're a three-term governor from New York is no slouch. Obviously I have my own family bias. I like three-term governors from New York. I like any governor from New York. But that's a big pedigree, and when you match it up with the other people out there, how do you feel you stack up?

PATAKI: I feel very confident about how I stack up because it's not just having held office. It's what you do when you're in that office. When I left we had over a million fewer people on welfare. When I left we had $143 billion in lower taxes and 700,000 more private sector jobs. So it wasn't just the question of holding office. It's what you do when you're in that office. And I'm proud of that record.

But also it's about your vision. And I did have the very sad opportunity to be governor on September 11th and learned a lot about the need to protect our security, the need to be pro-active in defense of our defense of our freedom and not look the other way when we have groups like ISIS planning to attack us here overseas. So I think I have the experience and the vision.

And the last part is you've got to win the election. I think Mitt Romney would have been a very good president, but he couldn't get elected. You have to appeal, yes, to the Republican base, but to nontraditional Republican groups, minorities, moderates, conservative Democrats, and I'm able to do that. We have to win, otherwise all the greatest ideas in the world don't make that difference.

CAMEROTA: So what do you think is a big issue? What is it that's making you get to this race?

PATAKI: Well, there are two. First there's national security. I'm very concerned about the fact that ISIS is growing, and the threat of radical Islam is growing right here in America. I mean, we came in Garland, Texas, very close to a massacre of civilians, American citizens, simply because of the radicalization of American citizens based on ISIS' propaganda. And we know they are planning and organizing to attack us here and we are not doing enough to protect our freedom.

The second is I believe that Washington is changing the nature of how they see the American people. This government has always been where the people tell the politicians what we want them to do. You have this group of elites in Washington now who think the people can't make decisions for themselves and government has to tell them what to do. Government has to tell every American what type of health care they can have. Government has to tell every school and every state what kids must learn and how they're taught. That's not America. It should be the people's government, not the politicians'.

CUOMO: Something that I want to start talking to you about today and then we'll follow it along as you go throughout there is money. You talk about the oligarchy effect and the plutocracy effect in government. The big stick winds up being money.

PATAKI: Right.

CUOMO: Do you think you can raise the money and do you think it's time to take on that issue, because it's so determinative now when we talk about candidates, money goes hand in hand with their viability?

PATAKI: Chris, I intend directly to take that on. And there are two parts. One is money and its impact. The first is its impact on campaigns. And that is something that has grown and is unfortunate. But probably the more dangerous one is the impact in Washington, D.C., itself. Right now, you have over 400 former members of the House and Senate who are registered lobbyists. That is wrong. You know that you get elected, you play the game, you're set for life. I would pass a law saying one day in Congress, there is a lifetime ban on your ever being a lobbyist so you can't just go there to end up peddling --

CUOMO: That's not going to help you raise money for this race.

PATAKI: I don't know. I think the American people overwhelmingly support that. Maybe not people holding office in Washington, but that's not the constituency I want to have behind my candidacy.

[08:15:03] CAMEROTA: Governor George Pataki, thanks so much for coming on NEW DAY. Great to have you.

PATAKI: Alisyn, good being with you. Thank you, Chris.

CUOMO: A pleasure, Gov.

CAMEROTA: All right. Meanwhile, Secretary of State John Kerry remains hospitalized this morning after breaking his leg during a bike ride in France. His doctor flying to Geneva overnight.

Let's bring in CNN's senior international correspondent Nic Robertson who is live this morning in Geneva -- Nic.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right.

He broke his right femur very close to the site of where he had a hip replacement just a few years ago. He was negotiating a curve we're told when he came off his bike. That was right after his talks with Iranian officials here on those nuclear negotiations. He was due, Secretary Kerry, was due to be in Madrid today, meeting with the king, meeting with the prime minister.

Then, he was due to go to Paris to meet with the coalition trying to fight ISIS. A very important mission.

Now, Secretary Kerry said he hoped to join that remotely but clearly his eagerness to get back in the political mix, his doctor's somewhat overruling that. Over 24 hours in the hospital here now. Dennis Burke is the doctor who did that hip replacement several years ago, on his way here now to see Secretary Kerry.

It's not usual for us to see Secretary Kerry at meetings here in Switzerland. Remember in March earlier this year, Secretary Kerry taking a ride on his bike, got a bit of relaxation while those talks were going on. He has played a very critical role in those talks. Thirty days now on the Iran negotiations to get an agreement.

Secretary Kerry has a lot of -- obviously has a lot of experts, and people on his team who can help him in these negotiations, but there are big issues remaining on sanctions, on access to sites in Iran, and Secretary Kerry's relationship with his opposite number of the Iranian Foreign Minister Zarif has been key and critical so far.

So with an injury like this that can take a long time to repair how long is he going to be out of the mix and what impact potentially a significant one is it going to have on these important talks? Chris?

CUOMO: All right, Nic, thank you very much. Big questions we're going to have to see what the answers are, that's for sure.

So, we also want to tell you the tributes are pouring in after the death of Beau Biden. Former attorney general of Delaware, father, husband, and, of course, older son of Vice President Joe Biden. President Obama and the first lady visiting the Biden's official residence on Sunday to offer their condolences.

Beau Biden was an Iraq vet. He died Saturday at the age of just 46 after losing a battle with brain cancer.

CAMEROTA: Well, this afternoon a huge crowd is expected at the funeral for the family killed in their Washington, D.C. home. Savvas Savopoulos, his wife and their son, their mouse keeper as well, found dead inside their burning mansion last month. Police charging Daron Wint with first degree murder, claiming the DNA found at the scene linked him to the brutal crime.

CUOMO: All right. This is a tough one, but it happened, and you're going to want to see it. An acrobatic feat goes terribly wrong in Texas. Keep watching here. It's caught on tape.

The Vasquez Brother's circus. What you just saw there is two trapeze artists going round and round in this model rocket ship. The woman in red plummets to the ground. Fans screaming obviously, terrorized. The circus management says the circus performers did not properly latch a safety cord.

We're showing you this for two reasons. One to remind that safety matters in these acts that we all love and second of all because the woman that you saw there who fell, she's expected to be fine.

CAMEROTA: That's amazing. Thank goodness.

CUOMO: So, few short hours from now Senator Lindsey Graham is expected to announce his bid for president. What does he bring to this big field of GOP contenders? We will break it down with experts ahead. They will tell you who will be the next president of the United States. Guaranteed.

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[08:22:13] PATAKI: When the top are a ten, it means it's wide open. And I think the mines the Republican primary voters, the Republican voters are looking for someone they believe can lead this country. They believe has the vision and the experience.

And they don't know much about me. But I hope as they learn more about me they will see I do have that vision and I certainly have the experience.

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CAMEROTA: Well, that was George Pataki here on NEW DAY moments ago, talking about why he thinks he has a chance.

And in just a matter of hours, Senator Lindsey Graham expected to announce that he is getting into the race as well, becoming the ninth Republican candidate to join.

CUOMO: Let's discuss, political commentators here. We have Republican strategist and Jeb Bush supporter Ana Navarro, and Democratic strategist and co-chair of a pro-Hillary Clinton super PAC, Mr. Paul Begala.

Let's get the general assessment of the field, Navarro. Big three- term governor of New York getting in, big Senator Lindsey Graham getting in. You'll be at like nine or ten now. What do you say?

ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: We're going to be at -- Lindsey makes it nine. I think later this week, Rick Perry will bring us into double digits.

You know, on the way over here, I saw this bumper sticker on a car that said, "I'm Republican and I'm not running for president." And I think that pretty much encapsulates it.

Look, there is no front-runner. You know, we're not going to really see this field narrow down until the debates. Until we -- you know, they really have to put some money on the ground. Right now, everybody's making announcements, wanting to get their voice out there, wanting to arrange their profile.

And I think that this notion that there is an establishment candidate in the Republican Party is just plain wrong.

CAMEROTA: So, Paul, will Lindsey Graham getting in move the needle?

PAUL BEGALA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: He could. He could, because he knows why he's running. You know, he wants to give voice to the neoconservative interventionist foreign policy. He's called for more boots on the ground in Iraq, for goodness sakes. It's not something I think most Democrats or most Americans would like to hear.

But he'll have a powerful voice. I have to say, and I was not saying this in the last cycle, this is a talented Republican field. There's a lot of talent. There's a few, you know, knuckleheads but mostly it's a really talented field.

You just saw there, you interviewed him, Chris said three-term governor of New York getting in. He still can't -- he's at 1 percent. Low fat milk is at 2 percent. But, there's a lot of talent. Even in the lower polling tiers for that race.

CUOMO: Ana Navarro, Paul Begala going to the low fat milk comparison of the presidential field for the GOP.

I saw a poll this weekend referenced that said 57 percent of Republican voters feel that they feel the field is strong or excellent. So, maybe it's not about, it's you don't have anybody so it's everybody. Maybe this is the robust debate that that's what your team wants.

NAVARRO: Oh, absolutely. I think people are going to get to do a lot of comparison shopping, which is a good thing for Republican voters.

[08:25:04] And I think they're enjoying being courted and hearing from so many candidates. Not only where are folks on issues, what are their problem solving skills? What are their solutions? What's their agenda?

But also what is their politics? Are they good campaign -- you know, are they good at retail politicking? Are they good speech givers? Are they good, you know, what experience do they bring?

I mean, there are so many factors that Republicans can take in to consideration, because there's an enormous amount of choices. And frankly, I'd rather be where we are, even though I know it's going to get crazy at times, than where Democrats are, where they are in an arranged marriage where they have a one size only, you know, fits all, candidate.

CAMEROTA: Hey, Paul, let's talk about the Democratic side. Martin O'Malley of Maryland getting in to the race over the weekend. So, how will that change the calculus for Hillary Clinton?

BEGALA: Right. As you know, as Chris disclosed, I'm for Hillary. I want her to win. But I have long said that I want her to have a tough primary. You already have Bernie Sanders drawing really impressive crowds in Iowa, lighting up the liberal base of my party. Now, Governor O'Malley maybe trying to get that same vote, but he's got a terrific record as governor of Maryland. He's signed marriage equality into law. He repealed death penalty, raised the minimum wage. He'll have something to say to Democrats, as well.

I think Ana is now, to quote George W. Bush, misunderestimating the field on my side. I do think the Republicans have a lot of talent, but the Democrats do now, too. Hillary's going to have serious opponents challenging her for the nomination and I think that's good for the Democratic Party.

CUOMO: Listen, Paul, I respect your confidence, but just on a numerical basis, it's hard for you to say that yeah the Democrats and the GOP are the same deal. You know you got three going on there. You got 557 on the other side.

But I also think that it's about why do you have this? Money winds up being a very big part of this. Do people think they can raise against Hillary with her machine on the Democratic side? Is it worth it?

On the Republican side, they may see it as a more open thing. Now, Governor Pataki was on here and I asked him about money because we think this is going to be a big theme for this election. That now you assess viability hand in hand with the ability to raise money.

He had a very provocative fix for money in politics and especially in Washington. Take a listen.

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PATAKI: You have to appeal yes to the Republican base, but to nontraditional Republican groups, minorities, moderates, conservative Democrats, and I'm able to do that.

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CUOMO: Yes, it's nothing like what I wanted him to say. What the governor said was you have a problem with money in politics, you have a problem with money in Washington, you have 400 former members of Congress who are registered lobbyists, not if he's president. He says he would fight for a change and if you serve one day in Congress, you cannot be a lobbyist.

Thoughts, Ana Navarro?

NAVARRO: Good luck getting that message through Mr. Pataki.

Look, I think I do agree that there is a problem with money in politics. And it's only getting worse. Frankly, I think a lot of these laws that exist today, election financing laws that exist today are plain dumb. They're full of loopholes that candidates on both sides take advantage of, because if that's what the law is, that's what they work with. But, you know, it makes no sense. I think the emergence of super PACs

has not been a good thing for the process. And you know, I hope that at some point, there's a bipartisan agreement to really fix these laws.

CUOMO: Begala defend your existence, super PACs. You're in one right now, you're for Hillary Clinton. There's this allusion that super PACs aren't aligned with campaigns. Is this a "come on, man" moment?

BEGALA: They cannot coordinate, but they obviously can support. The super PAC I work for supports Hillary Clinton. We do not coordinate with her campaign in any way. I don't even have social conversations with her campaign.

CUOMO: Nobody buys that. Nobody buys that.

BEGALA: That is simply true.

NAVARRO: Best thing that's ever happened to Begala.

BEGALA: Well, that's also true, too.

NAVARRO: Best thing that ever happened to Begala is to be able to hide out.

CUOMO: Nobody buys it. I know it's true, Paul, but nobody buys it. If you support somebody how do you not know what they're doing in their campaign?

BEGALA: I can watch the public stuff. I'm like my 14-year-old Patrick who looks at his 17-year-old brother Charlie and says, you're not the boss of me.

That's how I feel about Hillary's campaign. I love her. I want her to win. But we're here to run the super PAC.

But here's an admission that gets interesting.

CAMEROTA: Yes?

BEGALA: I don't want any super PACs. I want a world without super PACs. Hillary Clinton supports changing the Constitution even, amending the Constitution because the Supreme Court got it wrong in Citizens United, we the people can overrule the Supreme Court. She's got the right answer to this.

Now, I also want a world without nuclear weapons. But if Mr. Putin's going to have them, I want President Obama to have them too. So, if Republicans are going to have super PACs, I want Democrats to have them, too.

CUOMO: Yes.

CAMEROTA: Guys, in the short time we have left, I know you want to share your thoughts about Beau Biden.

Ana, you know and love the Biden family. Tell us about Beau.

NAVARRO: Well, you know, look, it's heart-wrenching to an almost indescribable level. You know, anybody who knows Joe Biden, and I know him quite well, knows just how important family is. How much these two sons of his that survived that first devastating accident where he lost his daughter.