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More Fallout From Hillary's Private Emails; Obama Dismisses Israeli Prime Minister's Speech; Fighting Back Against Cyberbullies; Blockbuster NFL Trade

Aired March 4, 2015 - 07:30   ET

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JOHN KING, CNN HOST, "INSIDE POLITICS": I'm sort of torn on this. You know, she's about to launch a presidential campaign. This is a big story about her transparency. She's skirting at least the spirit, if not the letter of the Federal Records Act, and she says nothing about it. Surprised?

NIA-MALIKA HENDERSON, "THE WASHINGTON POST": I'm a little surprised. I mean, the people I talked to before the speech yesterday, people sort of in Hillary's circle or outer circle, said, "Sure, this would probably be a good environment for her to do that. I mean, this is her base. These are her fans, 1,600 or so women there." So maybe she could have said something that was you know, maybe about how she's often attacked. I think Stephanie Shriock, who is the president of Emily's List, talked about that.

But she didn't take the opportunity. I think it also shows how vulnerable she is right now because she's in this non-campaign campaign phase and she doesn't have the Clinton war room, that rapid response where she can put a full defense on.

Obviously some people responded to it in her camp, but in terms of a full-throated explanation, that's something we haven't seen.

KING: There were some jitters among Democrats yesterday essentially, you know, they see the foundation of raising foreign money. Now they see something like this.

She didn't have a full campaign staff to deal with this. The staff she has says nothing nefarious here. She's got all the records, if anybody needs them, she's got them.

But the law says and the regulations say, they're supposed to be in the custody of the government. Even if you're using a private account, the day-to-day accounting, the day-to-day library, the day- to-day system supposed to be inside the wall of a government building, not inside the walls of a private home in New York.

JONATHAN MARTIN, "THE NEW YORK TIMES": It's the public's information not hers. That's the exchange you make when you become a public official and for history's sake, I think it's important to have possession of that, but you're right. I spoke to a lot of Democrats yesterday and publicly what is striking is that they defend her even without knowing the full story. KING: They don't really have a choice.

MARTIN: They don't have a choice. She is effectively their next nominee and the degree to which Democrats publicly fell in line yesterday without even knowing the extent of what happened here was striking to me, spoke to the fact that they're all in this together and she's their best and really only hope for 2016.

Privately, John, there's a lot of eye-rolling and a lot of how could they not see this as politically problematic. The idea that you could choose simply not to use a government e-mail account for four years as secretary of state.

And not understand that down the road that would come back up, if you have political ambitions, for a lot of Democrats that was puzzling.

KING: It will come back and remember we've all seen this now-iconic photo of Hillary Clinton on a government plane during a trip as secretary of state, you know, a lot of internet fun with these photos. A great series of articles of what she's actually typing there.

That's actually pretty funny. It's still the head of her Twitter account. It's not as funny today, I guess, when you look at this. You make an interesting point about Democrats lining up with her, not knowing the full story.

A lot of them also remember during the Bill Clinton presidency, they did it a few times and the trap door opened. When they got a little later, they found out more of the details, they regret it standing by. So that's one of the reasons for the jitters.

Another is because Republicans, a lot of Democrats say it's a fool's errand, why do they have another Benghazi committee, but the chairman of the Benghazi committee says this is proof, there's more to learn.

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REP. TREY GOWDY (R-SC), BENGHAZI SELECT COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: You do not need a law degree, to have an understanding of how troubling this is. There are a chain of custody issues. There are preservations of materials and documents issues.

There are exfoliations of evidence issues and one should be concerned about the national security implications of former Secretary Clinton using exclusively personal e-mail accounts for the conducting of official U.S. foreign policy.

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KING: That committee was expected to hear from her at least once and she's given every indication she will cooperate with the committee and testify. Chairman Gowdy now says maybe they need to talk to her twice.

HENDERSON: Yes, that's right. You had you had a situation, Democrats were pretty confident that this Benghazi investigation had sort of gone away or at the very least had been so partisan that it wasn't necessarily going to be a big problem.

I think the issues he raises, they're talking about the security concerns, I think that's going to be a very, you know sort of line of argument that you hear over and over again.

And this just gets at her entire record as secretary of state. How much do we know, how much do we know about who she has been communicating with, and that's supposed to be one of her strong points.

MARTIN: The Democratic fear is that this will embolden Republicans on Capitol Hill, majorities in both houses to redouble their efforts to investigate every possible angle of not just Benghazi, her entire tenure at the State Department.

For the next two years during the heart of her campaign the Republicans on the Hill could be make some mischief. Do some real oversight is scary to a lot of Dems.

KING: I want to move quickly to this extraordinary moment yesterday, Prime Minister Netanyahu stands up in the House of Representatives in the very spot that six weeks ago the president gave his "State of the Union" address. The president said this Iran deal is a good deal.

Prime Minister Netanyahu says it's a horrible deal and he says President Obama is misleading the American people, misleading the Congress about the consequences.

The president of the United States, you don't do this unless you're a little concerned about the power of the argument Netanyahu made, 11- minute statement in the oval office saying that our -- one of our biggest allies in the world, Prime Minister Netanyahu in Israel, is dead wrong.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: The path that we've proposed if successful by far is the best way to do that. That's demonstrable and Prime Minister Netanyahu has not offered any kind of viable alternative.

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MARTIN: He's angry there. You can tell that the president is very, very unhappy. You don't see him often in that kind of posture. I think the view of the White House is here is a foreign leader on American soil, in perhaps one of the most sacred parts of the American democracy, trying to undermine an American-led negotiation with a different country.

And I think they are outraged about it. I was so struck by Nancy Pelosi's comments yesterday. I mean, you just don't see those kinds of comments. I mean, she was near tears and saying that, you know, Netanyahu was condescending towards us. It's a remarkable moment in politics. HENDERSON: Yes, it was. I mean, to see how he was received in that chamber. Many, many standing ovations, probably as many if not more than Obama got when he did his "State of the Union" address. You saw the administration sort of the lead-up to this kind of try to play it down. John Kerry said, well, he's welcome to be here, but then after it happened, you did see that flash of anger --

KING: They have said throughout that even though the two leaders, Netanyahu and Obama don't get along. That they can do their business despite their personal dysfunction, I don't think so.

HENDERSON: Right.

KING: I think you saw that yesterday, 11 minutes for the president of the United States.

And Alisyn, as we keep an eye on the fall up from that, we're also going to keep an eye at those Supreme Court arguments today. One of the things will be talking about is the court hears the challenge to Obamacare.

It's not only what would the administration do if the court threw it down, but what would the Republicans do? Now that millions have this coverage, the Republicans have their own disagreements. So even if the Republicans win at the court, it could cause them some political headaches.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: So many questions about what the Supreme Court is deciding today. John King will be watching that. Thanks so much.

Parents out there, listen up to our next story, Curt and Gabby Schilling are on deck on NEW DAY, can't wait to talk to them. former Major Leaguer Curt Schilling and his teenaged daughter taking on cyberbullies and proving that what you say online does not just live there.

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Do not mess with former Boston Red Sox pitcher, Curt Schilling or his family. When the sports star wrote a tweet praising his 17-year-old daughter, it resulted in a series of violent and sexually explicit responses directed at her.

Schilling found out who was behind the posts, not only exposed them on his personal blog, he then tracked down their employers and their schools. Schilling says at least of the Twitter users have now paid the price.

Joining us no are, probably dad of the year, Curt Schilling, and his daughter, Gabby. Good morning to the two of you. First of all, I think we got to show the tweet, Curt, that started it all.

You were being a proud papa, here it is, "Congrats to Gabby Schilling, who will pitch for the Salve Regina Seahawks next year. It seems innocuous enough, but then came all the vitriol? Were you surprised by that, Curt?

CURT SCHILLING, FORMER BOSTON RED SOX PITCHER: I expected some blowback. Number one, because in New England, it was the Seahawks, so you know, after the Super Bowl. But I expected college kids to be college kids and they come back and say some smart Alec things and they did.

And then I tweeted out something about you know, guys, not for nothing, but you know I know somebody in the special forces and you know we kind of joked back and forth and then it got serious and we started to get, I started to get the stuff that you've seen.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Now you always had a reputation of being hard-nosed on the diamond and off a tough guy. What did this do to you? I'm sure can you take heat about yourself. But when they were targeting your daughter and as you know, she's all grown up now, but not to you, she isn't. What did it mean to you?

CURT SCHILLING: Well, the blog that I came out with was about the 57,000th edit. The first one was I'm going to get in my car and go somewhere and kill these people. You know, but as a father I have two jobs. Put a roof over my family's head and protect them. This was an attack on my family.

PEREIRA: So Gabby, let's talk to you, young lady. You've been doing great in school. You've got a great athletic career ahead of you. Congratulations, first of all. Was this something that you anticipated and did you go to dad and say, Dad, I can't believe this is happening?

GABBY SCHILLING, CURT SCHILLING'S DAUGHTER: Well, I mean, I expected a few like little comments, nothing like as bad as it got. But I didn't really, he was away, I didn't talk to him until I saw his replies and people were like -- you're on bar stool and I was like, my gosh. Our first conversation wasn't a very good one but then --

CURT SCHILLING: She was mad at me.

PEREIRA: Why were you mad at him?

GABBY SCHILLING: Because I didn't see the really bad tweets. I only saw the little joking ones. So I thought he was just --

CURT SCHILLING: Overreacting.

GABBY SCHILLING: But then he told me what they really said and --

CUOMO: Well, you know, Gabby, it's somewhat generational. You know you live, your generation, you grow up on social media. You understand the harshness of it in a different way.

PEREIRA: Sadly.

CUOMO: Than some of the older-school people like your pop does. Yet what do you think it is that makes people be so much more nasty online than they would be to your face or in everyday exchanges? GABBY SCHILLING: It's absolutely because they can hide behind their computer screens, they don't have that face-to-face contact with someone. They don't see the facial expressions of the person when they read it and they can't get punched in the face through a computer screen.

PEREIRA: And Curt, the fact is that you have taken these people to task. Children should take offense by these kids being lumped in with them. Children behave better than these knuckleheads did. Some of them have lost their jobs. Some of them have been kicked out of school. What ultimately did you want them to understand?

CURT SCHILLING: Well, listen, the only analogy that comes to mind that I can use is -- if you're a parent, not just somebody coming into your house and punching your child right in the face right in front of you. When you think about that, the scars will heal. The physical stuff will go away.

She's going to carry this for the rest of her life. The lesson is accountability. The anonymity of the internet really doesn't exist. There are a few people in this world that can do it, but not many. And listen, if you're a parent -- you know, Twitter is not some other world.

You know I saw people talking about, you know, they did it on Twitter and they got it in the real world. And Twitter is the real world. If you're a parent you better be able to admit that and understand it.

PEREIRA: So Gabby, the fact is, you know not every other kid is lucky enough to have a dad like yours who you know, is not afraid of taking on a fight, is not a former pitcher for the Major League Baseball, but I know there's a lot of kids out there that are dealing with bullying, whether it's cyberbullying or in the school, physical bullying.

What do you think is the take-away from this that you could share with those kids that are suffering and maybe don't have an advocate that can stand up for them?

GABBY SCHILLING: I mean, cyberbullying is a huge issue right now and I think that people really need to like -- reach out to somebody else and get that help because some people just stay quiet about it and they let it eat away at them inside. And that's never OK because cyberbullying, you're just like, they're just alone.

They don't have anyone to talk to. It's not face to face. Like the other person doesn't realize how much harm they're doing to someone, but I'm lucky to have him to stick up for me.

CUOMO: That's what a dad's job is and you know, too many parents when you come to them and say, your kid is doing something online that's wrong. They often just take their kid's side and they don't want to see it for what it really is.

They don't want to address the behavior. Hopefully the awareness coming through you two winds up doing a lot more than just helping you with your own feelings. CURT SCHILLING: Well, now people understand you can go to jail and a lot of times, especially for women, and young girls out there, this is not something to slough off. This is not kind of joking, this is against the law. It is against the law. My daughter is a minor, too, so that if you do this, and you get convicted, you're a sex offender for the rest of your life.

PEREIRA: Well, Curt, we thank you for not only standing up for your daughter, but standing up for young women and young victims and whatever age victim of bullying.

And this is the thing we want to tell you, baby girl, go and enjoy college and have a great and exciting first year, we're very proud of you. You have the whole nation cheering for you as you go on to start that athletic career, OK?

CUOMO: And no pressure, just because your pop was a pitcher, no pressure. I heard you have more pitches than him and you're more consistent and you're not a hot head.

CURT SCHILLING: I'm just glad she actually talks to me now.

PEREIRA: The silver lining is it probably brought the two of you closer, Curt, Gabby Schilling, thanks so much for your time. Thanks for sharing your story and Gabby, just keep on being you, girl. All right, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: All right, from baseball to basketball. Even in the freezing cold, the Harlem Globetrotters are hot. Ahead, we've got some of the incredible shots they made from a battleship at sea.

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CAMEROTA: It's time for CNN Money now, chief business correspondent, Christine Romans is in our Money Center with rich major retailer is getting ready to hand out pink slips -- Christine.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Hi there. Good morning, Alisyn. It's Target. Target is cutting thousands of jobs. No exact number yet, but most of those layoffs we're told will be at the headquarters in Minneapolis. Target wants to save $2 billion over two years. It's still getting back on track after that major cyber breach during the 2013 holidays.

The iPhone once again the world's top selling smart phone. Samsung has been outselling Apple for years, but in the fourth quarter, Apple sold a record 75 million iPhones. That's about 20 percent of the global market. Just enough to inch ahead of Samsung thanks in part to big gains in China.

Folks, a lot of you are probably investors in Apple shares. Those shares have been on quite a tear. A decade ago they were $5 a share, now they're $130.

CAMEROTA: I should have hung on to those. Thanks so much, Christine.

CUOMO: You know what you do when you have a really good running back in the NFL?

CAMEROTA: No, what?

CUOMO: You keep them, but not this time. A huge trade with the Philadelphia Eagles, certainly going to change the fates for two football franchises, Lesean McCoy is who we're talking about. Let's bring in Andy Scholes. What's this trade about?

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS: You know what, Chris, Eagles fans not very happy about this. Looks like Rex Ryan, your boy, former Jets coach, now with the Bills, wants to run the ball. Chip Kelly, the coach of the Eagles, he wants to turn the Eagles into the NFL version of the Oregon Ducks.

Now the trade we're talking about is reportedly the Eagles are sending their superstar running back Lesean McCoy to the Bills in exchange for linebacker, Kiko Alonzo. McCoy is born and raised in Pennsylvania and he's not very happy about being traded away from home.

Alonzo, meanwhile, he's going to reunite with Chip Kelly whom he played for in Oregon. He's the eighth former duck to play for Kelly on the Eagles.

Kentucky Wildcats looking to remain undefeated. Charles Barclay in the house for this one and funny moment before the game, some Kentucky fans were sitting in Belichick's seat so he had to have them removed before the game and the people sitting next to him thought this was absolutely hilarious.

As for the game, Georgia at Kentucky on the road so the wildcats wanted the late 14-0 run to put the game away, they win it 72-64. When everyone is filling out the brackets Kentucky will be a popular pick to win it all.

The Battleship U.S.S. New Jersey has four new big guns. Check out these four Harlem Globetrotters braving subfreezing temperatures to entertain the troops with some amazing long distance shots.

That was the hook shot from the deck of the ship into the hoop on a floating tugboat on the frozen Delaware River, very impressive. The globetrotters are touring North America through April. Each show an active, wounded or retired military member will be honored for their bravery and their service. It's always great stuff from the Globetrotters.

PEREIRA: Hate to be a ball boy for that one.

CUOMO: All those red, white and blues floating in the Hudson.

CAMEROTA: How do they do that? All right, Andy, thanks, so much.

Well, Israel divided over Netanyahu's speech just days before they head to the polls. Was it effective enough to keep him in power?

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