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Emotions Erupted in Police-Community Meeting in St. Louis; Tom Brady Has a Cold Prior to Sunday's Super Bowl

Aired January 29, 2015 - 15:30   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: We are just past the bottom of the hour. You're watching CNN. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

Let me take you to this meeting in St. Louis held to bring police and community together. Instead it may have driven them further area part. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How about you keep order in your police departments? What, you just going to shoot people? Is that what you want to do? Is that our alternative, pull out your gun?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's what I'm talking about (bleep). Let's get some (bleep) out here.

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BALDWIN: We should point out this meeting was pretty peaceful the first hour until this happened. You heard the guy say the word Roorda. That's Jeff Roorda, police union leader. Some witnesses say he was to blame for last night's -- well, this. One possible reason, a wristband he was wearing which read I am Darren Wilson. A show of solidarity with the police officer that killed Michael Brown last year setting off riots in Ferguson, Missouri and beyond.

But here's the twist. The meeting was actually called to create this civilian review board to give the community a better way to communicate with police. In fact, my colleague Don Lemon who was there, I don't know, for weeks on. And you know, obviously, to me the biggest take away is the community is on tender hooks. I mean, it is so incredibly frustrated. Police are frustrated.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR, CNN TONIGHT: Nobody is listening.

BALDWIN: Nobody is listening.

LEMON: Nobody is listening. Everybody is yelling. It's disturbing.

Listen, I think the altercation is obviously disturbing, but what's most disturbing is after this time, that no one is actually listening to each other. It has been months and months since the death of Michael Brown sadly. This whole meeting, as you said, was to set up civilian review board and to get people to come together. And all along, I have been saying nothing else matters right now but coming together to establish some sort of protocol, some sort of truce between police officers, police and the community. That's what matters now. This brawl is embarrassing for everyone.

BALDWIN: You know, taking it back to the wristband because a lot of questions and a lot of frustration has been over, obviously, the role Darren Wilson played, depending on who you ask in the shooting, the non indictment that also wearing of this wristband.

Let me play two sound bites. First is Jeff Roorda, defending his, you know, right to wear this wristband and then followed up with an interview with the bishop from the St. Louis are who reacts to that. Here we go.

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JEFF ROORDA, ST. LOUIS POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION: I have a right to freedom of speech and expression just as the violent protestors in Ferguson, who attempted to kill and maim police officers every night. They were defended exercising their right to free speech as they were trying to kill police officers. I think I can wear a bracelet in a public meeting.

BISHOP DERRICK ROBINSON, FERGUSON, MISSOURI PASTOR: It lets us know that right now the tensions are high in our city. It lets us know how divided our community is. Our law enforcement on one side and community on the other side. And if our law enforcement is here to serve and protect our community, this cannot happen.

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BALDWIN: Then you have law enforcement who say, you know, we want to serve and protect the community. It's like, you know, you and I have covered these protests right, not just you in Ferguson but all around. There are two sides to this. It's just sad that there was an entire meeting called to sort of help with the ties.

LEMON: So here's the thing.

Jeff Roorda has every right to wear that band. He has freedom of expression. Just because he can wear it, doesn't mean he should. He should be aware of tension that is happening in the community. Let's just say -- OK, allow him to wear that band. The people who are there should not allow that to distract them. That's not what they're there for. They're not there to be worried about a wristband he is wearing. They're there to come to consensus with police. You have to look at the bigger picture. So if he wants to be a jerk, if you think he is a jerk -- I'm not saying he is -- but if that is what you think, let him wear his wristband and keep it moving, right?

Your agenda is get something done with the community. And then to have this brawl where whoever pushed who or whatever -- let's just say that Jeff Roorda pushed me and shouldn't have. Do you think I'm going to be on television or do you think I'm going to be fighting with someone in public? I'm going to let him be act a fool, and make a fool of himself and I'm going to keep my dignity. So -- and then I'm going to sit down at the table and say we're not here to fight. We are not here to talk about wristbands. We're here to talk about how to keep people from dying in the community. End of story. Bottom line.

BALDWIN: I was asking Bishop Robinson at the end. I said listen, you're a man of faith and fairness, you know, what is next? And I don't know what the answer to that question is.

LEMON: The question is --

BALDWIN: What's next if you're a man of faith and fairness, if he is seeing this from both sides, right, what is next for this community?

LEMON: You know, I don't know. But if something doesn't happen, I think it's, you know, we are in for -- it's a tender box. He's right, you know, it is a tender box. But I think everyone has to realize. I keep talking about the protestors. People have every right to be upset, but you have to realize what the bigger picture is. And don't let the little things distract you. Don't let the small -- take the small things like that and brush it off.

BALDWIN: Don Lemon, thank you.

LEMON: Keep the pushing. Thank you.

BALDWIN: "CNN TONIGHT," this guy, 10:00 eastern here on CNN. Do not miss it.

Thank you.

Just ahead, the NFL looking to make a statement on super bowl Sunday. Wait until you see the league's new anti domestic violence ad being describe as the chilling and powerful. We'll play it for you.

Plus, I will talk to a CNN anchor who is getting very personal sharing her struggles and triumphs with fertility.

LEMON: I never thought I'd see that moment where Kyra Phillips was a mom. She's laughing. We go way back eight years.

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BALDWIN: You know a lot of women put off having children to focus on their careers only to find out later in life that they're no longer able to get pregnant. It sometimes can be seemingly insignificant decisions like apparently what kind of lipstick to wear that can adversely affect fertility many years later.

So my colleague, CNN anchor and correspondent Kyra Phillips knows this firsthand. She is the proud mother of now 4-year-old twins. But this was not an easy process.

And so, Kyra turned everything she learned all along the way to this incredible new book, it is called "the whole life fertility plan" which has all kinds of science for ladies and men. And it's so great.

You know, we know around CNN there's like -- we know. When I look at you you're always like trying to encourage women and empower women. And here finally, you wrote a book.

Congratulations.

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Thank you so much.

You know, I spent -- you know we spend our whole lives -- as soon as we know. I knew when I was a little kid I wanted to be a journalist. But you spend your teens, and your 20s, and your 30s really trying to pursue the dream. And it takes a lot to get to this level. And unfortunately, for women, that means a lot of tiles they have to sacrifice love, and relationships, and family, and children because you've got to be able to take that job and go whenever you can.

And you know, I was covering the war in Iraq. I was going through a divorce. I had lost everything in my home due to a flood. A pipe had busted upstairs. And I was just sitting on my front porch at 40 thinking, oh my God, I completely blew it. And I had a huge anxiety attack. There was nothing out there for me to read or to look at to make me feel better. And I decided to do the fertility thing on my own. And thank goodness I met my husband and he was open to it. And now we have this, you know, beautiful twins that light up our lives.

But I wanted to put something together for women of all ages from the youngest to mid-career to geriatric moms like me, that's what I'm called, by the way, to embrace the fertility process and feel good about it and be empowered.

BALDWIN: So I will share something. Because I haven't even talk to you about it and I just didn't even share it with anyone because I did it two years ago and I thought this wasn't that big of a thing anymore, but I froze my eggs. I froze my eggs two summers ago. And I just wanted to share with all of you ladies out there. It's not scary if you don't mind syringes a little bit quite today. And this was actually I did it at my parent's house. I gathered all my dear, you know, friends and family together because it is a big deal and it is a big decision. And I thought about it a ton of ton of ton. And that was my first injection in my stomach. And that was all the drugs they send you in the mail. And you know, it's a really serious thing.

I think I was -- I'm 35 now. And I was -- I have somebody special with me who supported me the whole time and went with me every day. And you talk about it in your book about, you know, having to shoot yourself up in the back of cars or on stories. I was speaking at a college commencement and had to get a TSA letter because I had shots to take with me. But it was worth. And thank you, CNN, because hello insurance. It covered a lot of it.

PHILLIPS: Yes. And that's a blessing. And a lot of companies are paying for it for their female employees.

And I'm really glad you started to share the fact that you did it because I think that women need to know it's OK. And it doesn't have to be scary. And you're putting your DNA on ice. Because we can carry babies, Brooke, much later in life. But you don't have healthy, fabulous eggs later in life.

So, at a nice ripe age like you in your 30s, you know, you put those beautiful eggs on ice. And then when you're ready, you've got it.

BALDWIN: So many women I can count on fingers here at CNN and beyond are doing it, have done it. And I think it is empowering. And I thank you for, you know, that thump, thump, thump for many years about wanting to do it. Beyond the preservation of eggs chapter, you talk also about chemicals, and lipsticks, and shower curtains and plastics that all affect this.

PHILLIPS: Right, definitely. Well, and there's the beauty of this book that young gals can start reading about what they can do differently so they don't get to a point where they have to go through fertility treatments. I mean, our cosmetics. There's lead in lipstick. I mean, lead, high amount of lead leads to miscarriages, over exercise, being underweight, all these impact conception. Alcohol, what you drink, recreational drugs, and we talk about men as well and what affects them. Because there are many men that don't realize they're the problem. It's not the woman.

BALDWIN: You have been such an advocate so thank you so much. Now all of you get to share Kyra Phillips and this fabulous doctor, "the Whole life fertility plan."

Thanks so much.

PHILLIPS: Thank you. Thanks, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Appreciate it.

Coming up live, we will go live to Rachel Nichols in Phoenix where on the biggest sports stage of the year, the NFL, is looking to make a powerful statement on the issue of domestic violence.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ma'am, you reached 911. This is an emergency line.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know called 911. This is an emergency line.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you know how long it will be?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ma'am, is everything OK over there? Do you have an emergency or not?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

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(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BALDWIN: We have been watching and listening to opening statements in the Aaron Hernandez murder trial in Fall River, Massachusetts. The start of the trial comes just days before his former NFL team, the New England Patriots, faces the Seattle Seahawks in Sunday's super bowl XLIX.

During this Sunday's game, the NFL will air an extraordinary public service announcement with the powerful message about domestic violence. Here's a preview.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 911, operate or 911. Where's the emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 127.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. What's going on there?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I would like to order a pizza for delivery.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ma'am, you have reached 911. This is an emergency line.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Large with half pepperoni, half mushroom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know you called 911. This is an emergency line.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you know how long it will be?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ma'am, is everything OK over there? Do you have an emergency or not?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are unable to talk because?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. Right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there someone in the room with you? Just say yes or no.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. It looks like I have an officer about a mile from your location. Are there any weapons in your house?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you stay on the phone with me?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No. See you soon. Thank you.

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BALDWIN: Gave me the chills. I hadn't actually seen the full thing. Rachel Nichols is there in Phoenix.

It's incredible. And I was wondering if it was actually the first sort of ad of its kind to air with such an incredible audience. And you are saying it's actually not?

RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN ANCHOR, UNGUARDED WITH RACHEL NICHOLS: Well, this is certainly going to be the first ad of its kind on super bowl Sunday. The impact should be amazing. You think about super bowl ratings, nearly 112 million people watch the super bowl last year, Brooke. That was the largest television audience in American history. Amazing. And it's supposed to be more than that this Sunday.

So when you think about all the people that will get to see this ad, it's remarkable. It's a huge step forward for the NFL. Now, is it enough to cure the image problem they have had on this issue? No, nor should it be. But they have definitely taken great steps since where we were say this past fall. And it's up to all Americans to continue this conversation after they see this ad. Keep pushing the NFL and other sports leagues to continue to do more.

BALDWIN: I think it's worth reminding our viewers the context of all of this in the wake of what happened with Ray Rice and his then fiancee in the elevator in Atlantic City and the other allegations involving other players. Finally this past season, the NFL did something about it.

NICHOLS: Yes, absolutely. They have been meeting with domestic violence groups. They have donated money, you know, really making large donations to domestic violence hotlines. But again, part of the proof is going to be in the pudding in how they deal with their own players, the examples that they set. We did see an Indianapolis Colts player pulled off the field right before the AFC championship game after he was charged with rape. Frankly, Brooke, I don't think that would have happened a year ago. So we are seeing progress. And again, we will see what happens as we move forward here. They are installing a new personal conduct policy. And we will see how that goes over in the next season ahead.

BALDWIN: OK. I have a couple more minutes with you. So let me ask you this. I am fresh off of a couple days in Boston and let me just say that all anyone had been talking about was of course the Pats, Belichick, Tom Brady, joking about deflate-gate and the cold and the snow. And I'm just wondering, are we done with that?

NICHOLS: I think deflate-gate is on hold for at least a few days, although, Roger Goodell is going to address the media tomorrow. It's his annual state of the union, as it were, so I anticipate a whole new round of deflate-gate topics coming up. Although I've got to say the bigger concern in patriots land right now is Tom Brady has a cold.

BALDWIN: Heaven forbid.

NICHOLS: Let's all analyze this. Of course, I think a lot of viewers can relate because how did he get a cold? From his kids. He said it spread through the house, his kids got the cold, then his very famous super model wife Gisele gets a cold. So apparently, everybody, Gisele gets the sniffles. And Tom Brady now has a cold.

Now, why do we care about this? It is actually important because if Tom Brady is hoarse or loses his voice on Sunday, he cannot shout out play calls and what is expected to be a very loud stadium. It would have a huge impact on the Patriots offense. He did say today he was feeling better. He promises Pats nation he will be 100 percent by Sunday. We have to see what happens there. But, you know, people can stand down at least for the moment with their panic.

Now Seahawks nation, by the way, Brooke, can be a little more concerned because there is an issue, too, with corner Richard Sherman, of course, their big star. His girlfriend is pregnant, nine months pregnant with their first child, a son, and she is possibly could maybe go into labor on super bowl Sunday. So people have been asking Richard hey, what choice would you make? We have seen professional athletes with more frequency decide to opt out of their competition to attend the birth of their children. It's generally met with great praise but we have frankly never seen it on a stage as big as the super bowl.

Richard said that he is going to quote, "cross that bridge" when he comes to it, that she's not actually due for another week. And he said he has faith in his future son that his future son is going to give his dad, do him a solid and give him an extra week and not put him in that position. So we will see if Richard's future son comes through with that.

BALDWIN: Do him a solid. That is hilarious. Decisions, decisions and conversations to be had with the Mrs. Understandable. Very important.

Rachel Nichols, thank you so much, in Phoenix, Arizona. And we will be watching CNN's kickoff in Arizona this Saturday. Do not miss Rachel Nichols and hall of famer Dan Marino take a look inside football's biggest game. That is this Saturday 4:30 p.m. eastern right here on CNN.

I'm Brook Baldwin here in New York. Thank you so much for being with me, the state right here. Jake Tapper and "THE LEAD" start now.