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Massive Security for Unity Rally in Paris; Turkey Tracks Female Suspect to Syria Border; Ten-Year-Old Strapped with Explosives Kills 20; Parisians Gathering for Unity March; Leaders of Foreign Countries Coming to Unity March in Paris; Interview with Leaders of French Jewish Communities; Inside Twisted Terrorist's Mind; Crashed AirAsia's Plane Tail Lifted from Sea Bottom

Aired January 11, 2015 - 06:00   ET

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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: France on high alert this morning, security tightens amid fears of a new attack.

CHRISTI PAUL, CNN ANCHOR: And new details are emerging this morning about the terrorists. Despite numerous red flags why did French authorities drop them from their radar?

BLACKWELL: And all of this is happening as close to a million people start to gather in Paris for a massive unity rally.

PAUL: We want to say good morning and welcome all of you here in the United States as well as around the world. We're so grateful for your company. I'm Christi Paul.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Good to be with you. Let's go live straight to Paris and Jake Tapper. He's where the rally will begin in a few hours -- Jake.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST: Hello, Victor and Christie, in three hours, up to a million people if not more are expected to join in a massive unity march here in Paris. It begins where I am at this spot. Marchers are expected to follow several routes to the Plaza Dela Nacion (ph), the march's final destination.

Dozens of world leaders are coming to Paris to walk alongside French president, Francois Hollande. They include British Prime Minister David Cameron, the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavron and Turkey's prime minister, all expected to be here.

So are Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Jordan's King Abdullah. Security, of course, will be very, very tight. A French police source tells CNN that terror sleeper cells have been activated in the last 24 hours in France, obviously, something, some information of grave, grave concern.

French officials are planning to use what they're calling exceptional measures to protect everyone. Thousands of police officers have formed, plain clothed, detectives, all of them being deployed across the French capital. Police snipers, anti-terrorism officers also stationed along the route. Law enforcement officers, of course, have been ordered to erase all their social media presence. They also must keep their weapons at hand at all times.

That is not standard operating procedure here in France to have weapons on you at all times. In fact, the French police woman who was killed on Thursday did not have a gun with her is my understanding.

Let's bring in CNN's Isa Soares right now. She is also here in Paris. Isa, there were top level ministerial talks here in Paris ahead of today's march planning for it, talking about going forward. Who was there? What did they discuss?

ISA SOARES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Jake. Those meetings are still underway gathered around 10:30. They've been meeting for about an hour or so now. It's really mostly foreign ministers, about 14 foreign ministers and U.S. Attorney Eric Holder all meeting.

And they're all talking about one subject and that really is discussing counter-terrorism, how to tackle that. Alongside that topic, we're also hearing, they're talking about how to tackle foreign fighters in Europe.

So those fighters were leaving to go young fighters were going to go to really to fight the Middle East. There are about 600 young men have left France waging war, Jihad really in the Middle East and then coming back. Those are the concerns.

They'll be discussing the topics and it will be what happens once they're here? Because we've seen this week, Jake, they come prepared. You know, they have weapons training from the two brothers, Kouachi brothers were trained in Yemen.

They are also very organized and obviously the tactics all very important. These are all questions they'll be discussing. And alongside us, Jake, the question of how do you talk?

How do you counter this without antagonizing the Muslim community and without creating an environment of Islamophobia. Let's take a listen very quickly to what -- go ahead, Jake.

TAPPER: No, go ahead. I want to hear.

SOARES: I was going to say today what we have the Attorney General Eric Holder is here. Also representing the United States we have the U.S. ambassador to France. She's here. She is actually Jane Hartley. She actually wrote a moving piece in "Le Monde" this week.

I want to take a snippet of what she said. She said as we pause to mourn the loss of life, I'm reminded how the people of France show their support to us in aftermath of 9/11 so a lot of support from world leaders.

Alongside that, obviously concern over security. The French government says they have a handle on this. Take a listen to what the foreign minister had to say

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BERNARD CAZENEUVE, FRENCH INTERIOR MINISTER (through translator): One hundred fifty policemen in plain clothes will assure the security of the distinguished persons and there will be an attempt. There will be sharp shooters on the roof and the drains will be inspected.

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SOARES: So not taking any risks, sharp shooters everywhere. I came in this morning there was already a lot of security. So I think we'll see a show of unity, a show of force not just from world leaders, but from pretty much everyone coming in today to be alongside all those who lost their lives -- Jake.

TAPPER: All right. Obviously, everyone here hoping and praying that it will be a peaceful event. Isa Soares, thank you so much. America's top diplomat says that no act of terror will stop, quote, "the march of freedom."

That's Secretary of State John Kerry talking. He is in India right now for a global economic summit. He added that the American people, quote, "stand together with the people of France not just in anger and outrage, but in solidarity and commitment in confronting extremism and in the cause that extremists fear so much and that has always united our country's freedom."

We also want to tell you about an arson attack at the offices of a German newspaper in Hamburg. Police say an incendiary device was thrown at the building setting the archive section on fire. Fortunately, no one was inside the building when the attack happened earlier today.

The "Hamburg Morgan Post" perhaps relevantly had reprinted the "Charlie Hebdo" cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed after Wednesday's deadly shootings in Paris. Police are investigating to see if the two are related.

We now have reports that the fourth Hayat Boumediene, you remember her, of course, she's the fourth suspect. It turns out that perhaps she was not in France during the terror attacks unlike what police initially believed.

She is now believed to have arrived in Istanbul, in Turkey, on a flight from Madrid, Spain on January 2nd. She was reportedly last seen in an area near the Turkey-Syria border.

Let's bring in our CNN military analyst, James "Spider" Marks to talk about this. General Marks, thanks so much for being here. French officials appear not to have known that Boumediene may not even have been in Paris during the Thursday attack on the police woman, the Friday attack on the kosher supermarket.

What does this suggest you? Does it suggest a failure of intelligence at the very least? MAJ. GENERAL JAMES "SPIDER" MARKS, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: No. Not at all, Jake. Thanks for your coverage and good morning you to. No, what it really tells you is that French intelligence knew immediately of her association with this group of terrorists. That's good news.

The fact that there was not immediate forensic evidence of her presence in any one of these particular incidence or at least there is a supposition she was not there is simply after the fact.

So the good news is they knew about her. They were immediately into the network and into the enterprise of all their associations and she immediately popped up as hot. So that's good news.

TAPPER: So better to have too much information than not enough, I guess. Better to think this individual, if she's with this person if, this person carried out a terrorist attack, she's likely here better to over believe that somebody is there than lack the information, I suppose.

MARKS: Yes, absolutely. What allows you to do is immediately you now thickened this enterprise of associations and how it works and what those linkages are. So, again, if this can come up and you start to paint the picture, she comes up as one of the very key figures.

That's good news. Now you're into what her enterprise and her associations look like. So, Jake, this is really good news and they put it together as we go forward. There is an absolute certainty that there's a lot that we don't know right now that the intelligence officials do.

TAPPER: All right. I should also point out, General, that Turkish officials are now saying that French intelligence did not pass on information on Hayat Boumediene until more recently.

MARKS: Yes, that's a problem. The challenge we have is that the intelligence enterprises in different nations tend to be organized somewhat differently. You know, France just in the past couple years took their analytical arm and their collection arm and nested them together underneath their ministry of interior.

Now that's a design that kind of exists in many places throughout Europe. It's different from how we do it in the United States so Turkish intelligence and France should be working well together not only through the European Union, but through their affiliations and associations that they both have within NATO.

So the fact that that intelligence was not physically passed is one thing. The second thing is that Turkish might have been able to pull that intelligence without getting it directly.

In other words, there's a sharing mechanism that exists that could have been used to give the Turkish or the Turkish could have probably been able to have better clarity on what that picture looks like and her specifically.

TAPPER: Just very interesting all the information that is now coming out about Hayat Boumeddiene, the last known location she was known to have been and where she was and her return ticket and all those information that French officials at least were not sharing with the public until today.

General Spider Marks, thank you so much. Appreciate your time. The fourth terrorist suspect, Hayat Boumeddiene, on the run. What are French officials doing to find her? Last known to be at the Syrian- Turkish border. We'll have details of that hunt.

Plus, the rantings of a terrorist.

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TAPPER: New audio recordings offer a chilling look at a terrorist explaining his crimes to his captives, accidentally recorded. We'll have that for you just ahead.

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TAPPER: Welcome back to CNN's live coverage of the unity march here in Paris. I'm Jake Tapper. I'm right here where the march will begin. It will go all the way down to the Place National. Many, many world leaders are here to march in solidarity with the French people.

Obviously French President Francois Hollande, but also Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, Mahmoud Abbas, the president of the Palestinian Authority, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, British Prime Minister David Cameron, all here to march alongside what is expected to be a massive crowd of perhaps a million people or more all marching hopefully in harmony.

Obviously there is intense French security, here on the ground in the buildings above the French snipers and French intelligence warning that sleeper cells --

Go to Atika Shubert if I can, I believe she is out amongst the crowd talking to some of the people about why they are here, what brought them out on this beautiful day to march alongside their fellow Frenchmen and French women. Atika, are you there?

ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Jake, I'm actually at the site of one of the attacks of that kosher supermarket. As you can see, there is a make shift memorial here that is just growing by the minute. People keep streaming here to put down flowers and light candles.

It really is people from across different sections of the Paris community have been coming here to show their support for the victims of the attack and to condemn the attacks as they happen.

Now we've also had just now a visit by the head of the Jewish home party from Israel, a very well-known right-wing figure. He came here to shake hands with members of the Jewish community. He actually went near the market checking out some of the bullet holes and what's left of the attack.

So as you can see, people have had this outpouring of emotion here. You can see a number of signs that say I am Jewish. It really just goes to show how this is united the communities here in Paris.

People want to come out today to show not only that they remember the victims, but that they support all of those who have been affected by these attacks and utterly condemn the violent killings as they happened here on the streets of Paris.

TAPPER: Atika, a couple remarkable stories that have come from that horrific incident at the kosher supermarket. One, anecdotally we're told, and it's a story relayed to the prime minister of Israel, who also shared it with reporters.

We're told that one of the four Jewish men killed on Friday was killed when he tried to rest the gun away from the terrorist, a remarkable story. Then there is the story of the Muslim immigrant, the young man from Mali, who helped 15 of the shoppers at this kosher market high.

And took risks himself to try to escape and bring people with him also heralded as a hero just very interesting and telling that in all this terrorism, you have a Jewish hero and a Muslim hero emerging from this horrific act of Islamic extremist violence.

SHUBERT: Exactly. We've seen some extraordinary stories coming out of this. Everybody tried to run for cover. He actually helped them get into a refrigerated room for storage inside the kosher supermarket.

And then they were told if they didn't come out, they would all be killed. He actually told the gunman there is nobody left down stairs. That's what police believe saved many of those trapped inside. So there are some extraordinary stories that are coming out.

I think it's important to remember that not only are we seeing, you know, a number of people with the stories, but also many of the victims are cross section of society here in Paris. You know, we have, of course, the Muslim policeman who was gunned down in front of "Charlie Hebdo."

That is support of him and his family. We have the Jewish victims that were here, of course and we have the police woman, you know, just a regular sort of police woman who was gunned down by Amedy Coulibaly on the streets of Paris.

So we are really seeing the Parisian community unite around these tragic events.

TAPPER: All right, Atike, thank you so much. We'll come back to you in a little bit. I want to go right now to Samuel Laurent. He is an expert on counter terrorism and terrorist extremists in this part of the world.

Mr. Laurent, good morning to you. Thank you for being here. I guess the first question I have for you is we're being told by the French government and French intelligence authorities that a sleeper cell, they -- how sure are they of that warning?

SAMUEL LAURENT, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: Actually, yes. Sleeper cells have been activated a couple days ago. This is something to which the policeman has been briefed. Actually we are not sure of the number of people involved.

The only thing we know is that some calls made by Coulibaly during the last hours of his life have been traced and indicates that it gave some instruction to some other people. The positive sign as I was saying previously, is that obviously these calls are traced and those people are most likely identified and already on the spot.

So, therefore, police and security forces are on their way to act and probably to neutralize them before they start action and are being able to target some policemen in France.

TAPPER: So this is information known from that phone call that the terrorist that attacked the kosher supermarket. He put down the phone. It is after talking to the French television station, I believe. It stayed on.

He didn't hang it up and they heard him talking on the phone to other people and other witnesses heard him talking on the phone to other people at a separate time activating the sleeper cells. That is where this information comes from, you believe?

LAURENT: Well, actually, he passed some phone calls even prior to the hostage taking and there was like a consensus in which the operations would start and I'm talking about "Charlie Hebdo" and also the killings of French policemen, police woman and then hostage taking.

And then other cells were deactivated. Those phone calls, because we don't know what is said during them, were seen as confirmation. Actually, the subdirectory, director of terrorism in France has been warned and is currently working on that and trying to track them and make sure that no policemen can be targeted in the short term.

TAPPER: All right. Samuel Laurent, thank you so much. Appreciate your time. Victor and Christie in Atlanta, back to you.

BLACKWELL: All right, Jake, thank you so much. Still to come, police say the unthinkable happened when a 10-year-old girl walked into a crowded market strapped with explosives in Nigeria. We'll tell you more about this.

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PAUL: Breaking news coming to us from Nigeria this morning, police say a 10-year-old girl strapped with explosives detonated at a crowded Nigerian market, and that explosion left 20 people dead and injured 18 others.

BLACKWELL: This attack happened yesterday. It lies in the heart of the Boko Haram insurgency. Witnesses say the explosives strapped to the girl detonated near the market's main entrance while she was going through a metal detector.

Diana Magnay joins us now from Johannesburg. Diana, is this unprecedented? We've seen some attacks from Boko Haram in the past, but a 10-year-old girl wearing these explosives?

DIANA MAGNAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Shocking, isn't it? It does seem to be a new tactic by Boko Haram to use children, a child as young as 10. We've actually seen the Taliban use child suicide bombers in Afghanistan in the last few years.

But this certainly does appear to be the first time that the Nigerian militant group has strap explosives to a child. This group that is running the checks of people going into that market and doing the metal detection, say they believe that she may not even have known that this device, what this device was that was strapped to her.

And it was probably detonate remotely, but it did cause a great deal of damage, 20 people killed. And this follows a week of gruesome violence. The estimate of the dead is a result of a rampage that Boko Haram made in this town and the surrounding towns. The estimate of the numbers of dead has gone as high as possibly 2,000 -- Victor.

PAUL: Diana, is there any indication that we might know who that child was? Are there fears it might have been one of the children that they had kidnapped?

MAGNAY: There's no intelligence yet as to who this girl was. We're hearing that she was so badly damaged, ripped apart as a result of the blast that it was really quite difficult to detect anything beyond her -- beyond the fact she was a very young girl.

But it is very possible she is one of the hundreds of children that had been kidnapped, abducted by Boko Haram in the rampages over the last months.

PAUL: This is unthinkable. Diana Magnay, we appreciate it so much. Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Coming up, hours from now, up to a million people are expected to fill the streets of Paris. You see some of them here ahead of today's national unity march. We're going to take you there live and talk about the enhanced security preparations already under way.

PAUL: Plus, shaken and on edge, this morning the Jewish community is trying to recover from that kosher grocery store attack. Here's the big question, could it happen again? Ahead, why some say anti- Semitism is on the rise now.

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PAUL: We want to show you some live pictures we are getting in from Paris right now as today. Up to a million people are expected to attend a national unity rally there in Paris. This is a show of defiance. A reminder of the 17 lives lost during this week's terrorism attack.

BLACKWELL: And the march will begin at the Place de la Republique from there, protesters will take two routes through the city. The French president Francois Hollande will be joined by leaders from around the world. Including British Prime Minister David Cameron. A German Chancellor Angela Merkel. You've got Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas, Turkish President Ahmed Davutoglu, the prime minister there, rather. Officials are ramping up security for today's events as you'd expect more than 2,000 officers will be deployed in the city streets.

PAUL: And we know police snipers, anti-terror officers will be in place as well. And in the meantime, French law enforcement officers are being told erase your social media presence. Carry your weapons with you at all times. This is a grim reminder that the threat still exists and a source now telling CNN terror sleeper cells have been activated there in France. We want to take you there with Jake Tapper who is in Paris right now. Good morning, Jake.

JAKE TAPPER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you. I'm standing here at Place de la Republique, which is where the unity march will begin. Obviously, this is meant to be a warm embrace of individuals for their fellow French citizens as well as you mentioned all those world leaders coming here to express solidarity. There is intense security. And people are a bit nervous, I have to say. This has been, of course, a city, a country since last Wednesday on edge. And perhaps no more people are no more on edge than the Jewish community here. Obviously that attack on the kosher supermarket has many members of the Jewish community here in France very, very worried.

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TAPPER: We now know the names of the four hostages murdered by alleged terrorist Amedi Coulibaly during his attack on a kosher grocery store. Yohan Cohen, Yohav Hattab, Philippe Braham, Francois- Michel Saada. During the standoff, Coulibaly spoke to a French television journalist and said he went to the kosher market for a specific reason.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He then explains why he targeted the kosher market. He said it's because his target was Jewish people.

TAPPER: That kind of anti-Semitism has France's Jewish community on edge. This weekend Paris' landmark Grand Synagogue closed its doors for the first time since World War II.

RABBI JONAS JACKQUELIM: I was really upset when I heard about this. (INAUDIBLE) shocking. It is difficult. There are a lot of people going there, of course, all the time when something is happening, the Jewish community, every Jewish person is feeling concerned it is (INAUDIBLE) the part of his family.

TAPPER: But last night at least 1,000 people braved the cold and rain to show solidarity with France's Jewish community, gathering outside the market that was the scene of the ugly hostage standoff.

ROGER CUKIERMAN, PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL OF JEWISH INSITUTIONS IN FRANCE: We are not going to stop going to kosher restaurants and to kosher groceries. We're going to maintain our Jewishness and our freedom and we're not giving up to violence. Of course, some people may decide to leave France as some have already done which is understandable.

TAPPER: Roger Cukierman is a leader of the Jewish community here in France and has spoken with some of the hostages who survived.

CUKIERMAN: Well, I've spoken to some of the survivors, yes. And of course, they are traumatized. It's very tense situation to have gone through. But it's even worse for the families of the four men that died.

TAPPER: Anti-Semitism has been on the rise across Europe and is keenly felt here in France. Last year an unprecedented number of Jews left France and moved to Israel. Those who remain mourn alongside all of France, trying to come together during this tragedy born from division.

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TAPPER: And I'm joined right now by Yonathan Arfi, he is the vice president of CRIF, that's the French acronym basically standing for the Representative Council for Jewish Institutions in France. Yonathan, thanks so much for being here. Our condolences for the losses of the members of the Jewish community and recent days. I guess the first question I have for you is do Jews in France feel under siege? Not just in the last week, but in general?

YONATHAN ARFI, COUNCIL OF JEWISH INSTITUTIONS: You know, we have the feeling as a Jewish community in France to be in the middle of the battlefront between democracy and the jihadists. And Jewish grocery was attacked two days ago. But it was not the first time that Jewish targets were targeted over the last years. I want to remind you about the attack of the Jewish school in Toulouse two years ago, for instance or about the Jewish Museum - six months ago. But today, we are united with the all French society to show that all the victims of the Jihadists, and we know that we have to be united together for this mourning.

TAPPER: Yonathan, explain for our viewers in the United States and around the world what is the significance of that Grand Paris Synagogue closing and not having Sabbath services Friday night for the first time since World War II, since the Holocaust?

ARFI: Yes, this is a very symbolic event. We have to say that the police are in a moment of I would say, of panic decided to close some synagogues. We - not all the synagogues were closed, of course, but the big synagogue was closed on Friday night. We have now given the instructions to all the Jewish leaders, presidents of synagogues, leaders of the Jewish schools to open all the Jewish institutions in the next days, next weeks, months. We will not accept that we have to close any Jewish activity due to terror. So, this is very important to say that we will not give this victory to the terrorists.

TAPPER: And we've heard of two heroes at the kosher supermarket. One of them -- one of the Jewish men who was killed, he was killed when he tried to confront the terrorist, Amedy Coulibaly. He tried to get his gun. Coulibaly killed him. The other hero of the supermarket terrorist attack, a young Muslim man Lassana Bathily, who got 15 people and hid them from the attackers. There seems to also be some symbolism in that. That we have this horrific terrorist attack and yet there are two heroes, a Jew and a Muslim.

ARFI: Yes. These two stories show that it is not the clash between civilization, it's a clash between people who want democracy, who want human rights, who want to live together and people with hate, people with violence. And in this moment, it is very important to say that all the people who want to defend democracy have to be here today during the march in France in order to show that we need to defend this common value.

TAPPER: All right. Thank you so much. Yonathan Arfi with CRIF, we appreciate your time. We wish you the best of luck and hope you have a peaceful day not just today, this unity rally, but also going forward in France. Thank you so much.

ARFI: Thank you.

TAPPER: Please stay with CNN for our continuing coverage of this unity rally in Paris where world leaders from Yonathan Netanyahu to Mahmoud Abbas, from Angela Merkel to David Cameron will all be marching in solidarity with the people of France. We'll be right back after this.

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TAPPER: It is a chilling look into the mind of a terrorist. At the kosher supermarket terrorist siege when he was on the phone with a local radio station, RTL Radio France, Amedy Coulibaly forgot to turn off the phone after he had finished the conversation, and the radio station had the smarts to keep recording. And so, we now bring you this. You can hear, and we will translate for you Coulibaly, the terrorist later killed by French police talking to his hostages and telling them what he thought about what he was doing and why. Take a listen.

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AMEDY COULIBALY (speaking French)

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TAPPER: The chilling words of Amedy Coulibaly, the terrorist who was killed in the kosher supermarket here in Paris, France, on Friday after killing four innocent French citizens, all of whom were Jewish men. I want to bring in now Tom Fuentes, he is the CNN law enforcement analyst and a former FBI assistant director to talk about this. Tom, your reaction to this audio of this terrorist discussing why he thinks -- a number of things, really. But he started off talking about taxes, how the people there were responsible, the French hostages, the innocent citizens that he was kidnapping and that he was - that the four of whom he had killed were responsible because they paid taxes and that tax money funded the French military which in his view kills innocent Muslims.

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Jake, my first reaction was that this is your typical Jihadi rant or what they view as justification. And they always come up with some rationalization why they kill innocent people, men, women and children or why they enslave girls to be brides or war brides for their soldiers or why they do all the various things they do. And I think that, you know, citing taxpayers as the reason that anybody is fair game to kill is just one more extension of what they're already saying all the time.

TAPPER: And he also said that the citizens of France could come together and refuse to pay taxes. Or - I didn't completely follow his train of thought. But either refuse to pay taxes or stop French military intervention in Muslim countries in the same way that the French citizens came together in solidarity with Charlie Hebdo. That was an interesting, if twisted observation by him.

FUENTES: Right, Jake. And one of the main purposes of terrorism is to intimidate the people, intimidate the government of the people to alter policies or do something differently. And, you know, we always say we're not going to give in. We're not going to give in, but if you recall in March of 2004 the tremendous al Qaeda attack and the train station in Madrid and the later gun battle, it was in protest that the Spanish, you know, to keep the Spanish out of the coalition and change their policies. And so, you know, it has an effect. It has an effect on elections later on and it can go the way they want it or it can go even more extreme in a different direction. So, you know, in this case, when the French have their next elections, will they want a government that cracks down even harder, that's even more stringent which is one thing the terrorist want. They want an overreaction by the government. Or will the government back off and, what, pull out of being in the coalition, stop sending troops to Mali, for example, and Africa to fight terrorist organizations there?

You know, so it will remain to be seen what the French do in the long run and what their reaction is and what the Western world's reaction is. But that's the idea of terrorism, to get governments to change their policy and people to change their support for those government policies.

TAPPER: Well, it is early days yet, but the initial reaction by the people of France seems to be completely in solidarity with the people of Charlie Hebdo and the people of the kosher supermarket. And behind me you see this massive unity rally. So it does not appear that the terrorists have won in any sense of the word. Tom Fuentes, thank you so much. I appreciate your time. We're going to have more of coverage of this unity rally which is expected to be massive, at least a million people, world leaders ranging from Benjamin Netanyahu to Angela Merkel to Mahmoud Abbas. Stay with us. CNN will continue to cover this incredibly important event.

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TAPPER: Welcome back. I'm Jake Tapper in Paris at the Place de la Republique. You can hear the massive and swelling crowds behind me chanting they just finished singing the French National Anthem. There's been a chant going on, you might have heard it during the previous block when the leaders of the chant say who are you? And the crowd yells back, Charlie. Who are you? Charlie. Obviously an expression of solidarity with - you can hear right now, with the slain cartoonists and staff members of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo who were so viciously attacked by terrorists on Wednesday. Sending off a cascading of events including four other innocent people killed in a kosher supermarket in Paris on Friday, a police woman, a French police woman murdered in cold blood on Thursday.

All told, 17 innocent victims so far and three dead terrorists.

I want to tell you also about some breaking news we have about a video released by the terrorist group ISIS, the Islamic State that purports to show one of the three dead terrorists. This one is Amedy Coulibaly, the individual who took hostages at the kosher supermarket. Displaying his weapons and pledging allegiance to al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIs. We'll have more for you as that develops. But we can report that ISIS has released this video showing one of the terrorists here pledging allegiance to al-Baghdadi. This would be unprecedented in the sense that the other two terrorists, the Kouachi brothers were said to have been affiliated with al Qaeda. Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and up until this week, this last week there has been no known collusion between these two terrorist groups, between ISIS and al Qaeda.

In fact, there had been reportedly some tensions between the groups because al Qaeda did not like some of the methods that ISIS would display, especially when it came to the public slaughtering of fellow Muslims. But now, and it's unclear whether or not it's because of just freelancers working together or something larger, whether now it appears that ISIS and al Qaeda are working together. We're going to have much more on this rally and the continued developments in this investigation, into the terrorist attacks coming up right after this break.

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PAUL: Look at the live pictures there of Paris. We are two hours away from this unity march beginning and look at the plethora of people waving their flags who are already there in solidarity against terrorism.

BLACKWELL: We'll check back there in Paris and go back to Jake Tapper in just a moment. But we want to take a moment to look at other stories developing now. Just a few days away, that's how much longer the chief investigators says it will likely take to find the black boxes from the crash of AirAsia flight 8501. The search cruise lifted the tail section of the plane from the bottom of the Java Sea yesterday but the black boxes were not inside. They're hoping now that the pings heard nearby will lead them to the flight data and the cockpit voice recorders.

PAUL: Also, Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham said the investigation into former CIA Director David Petraeus was "grievously mishandled." Justice Department prosecutors recommending now charges be filed against Petraeus. Officials say the FBI has evidence that the general did indeed pass on classified information to former mistress Paula Broadwell. BLACKWELL: And as Paris gears up for today's national unity rally,

cities across the U.S. are coming together to show their support after those terror attacks that killed 17 people. Dozens participated in a silent march in Charlottesville, Virginia, yesterday.