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Pro-Democracy Protesters Attacked by anti-Occupy Groups in Mong Kok District; Student Protest Leaders Say Government Must Protect Protesters Or They Will Call Off Talks; Conflicting Reports of ISIS Entering Kobani in Syria; South Koreans Turning To Camping For Vacation

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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout live from Hong Kong harbor on a day when the peaceful protests across this city turned ugly.

Anti-Occupy protesters attacked Occupy camps in parts of Hong Kong. This is the scene in Mong Kok.

Now student leaders say that they could call off talks with the government if officials don't stop what they say are anti-protest

activities.

Now despite the rain, protesters are still on the streets of Hong Kong, but the mood has changed dramatically in the past 24 hours. Scuffles

are breaking out at a couple of protest sites across the city.

Now this was the scene in Mong Kok just a short time ago. A group opposed to the pro-democracy protest, they tried to dismantle camps set up

in the middle of a major street in this Mong Kok district of Kowloon. They're breaking down barricades, prompting police to form a human chain

around the pro-democracy Occupy protesters.

Now student leaders say that they will consider abandoning talks with the government if officials do not stop activities against the peaceful

protesters.

Now let me show you where all of this is happening on the map. Now Mong Kok is densely populated. It's full of shops and stores. Protesters

are sitting on Nathan Road, it's one of the main streets in Kowloon. And remember, it's one of four different protest sites across Hong Kong.

Now student leaders have called on protesters from Mong Kok to return to the main protest site back in Admiralty on the Hong Kong Island.

Meanwhile, in Causeway Bay, fights broke out after anti-protest groups tried to dismantle barricades set up by demonstrators.

Now the situation has calmed down now over there.

Now let's cross now to CNN's Andrew Stevens, who joins us in Mong Kok. And Andrew, these violent scenes coming out of that district, these

peaceful pro-Democracy protesters are under assault. What have you seen there?

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, at the moment, Kristie, we are standing right in the middle of one of the busiest

intersections in Mong Kok. And it is a sea of people, thousands of anti- Occupy, anti-student protesters have come up and are literally face-to-face with several hundred students here who have been manning a sit-in in this

shopping section.

There have been scuffles. There have been several. They are (inaudible) at each other. There is a lot of defiance here. There is not

a big police presence here. In the two hours that we've been here, certainly more reinforcements have arrived.

It's reasonably quiet at the moment, but certainly there is a lot of feeling going on here. The anti-Occupy protesters, many of these are store

holders, they're small business owners, and they're point is that we cannot live if we are not earning money. Many of these people would be earning --

working seven days a week and they'd say you've got to leave, you've got to clear out. You've got to let us get back to business here.

The students that I've been speaking to say that they have no plans on leaving, but they sort of formed a defensive circle, really, right in the

middle of this intersection. And they're surrounded by three sides by the anti-protesters.

As I've said, it's quieter here at the moment, but every now and then there will be a scuffle, there will be a chant goes up, intentions rise,

and then it sort of fades back again.

What has happened in the last 10 minutes or so that we've seen, it's a lot of reinforcements from the students, students leaving the central

Occupy protest site and coming out here to reinforce students who are already here.

It's a very delicate situation at the moment, certainly standoff and certainly there's no prospect that I can see that there's going to be any

resolution to this, but both sides very entrenched, no one is going anywhere.

LU STOUT: Andrew, you describe this as a very delicate situation. These peaceful pro-democracy protesters, a number of them have been

surrounded by these anti-Occupy elements.

And we're trying to understand more about who are they and who is behind them. Some background into Mong Kok, that area is notorious for

organized gangs, for Triads here in Hong Kong. Is that playing any sort of factor, any role in the unrest there?

STEVENS: That's an interesting question. Very difficult to establish whether there has been any elements, criminal elements (inaudible) if you

like coming in to stir things up -- to provoke the crowd.

Certainly, students I've spoken to have said that is the case. I've asked the police, they're not commenting on that.

But I would have to say that the scuffles that I've seen so far, Kristie, there are some pushing and shoving and then they fade back again.

But these are very legitimate complaints that many of these protesters are raising, the fact that it is difficult to get around may parts of Mong

Kok at the moment. Mong Kok used to be one of the most densely populated parts of the planet. And it is full of working-class Hong Kongers who many

of them live hand to mouth. And they need trade. And they say that trade has been severely disrupted by this protest movement.

They're not saying they don't support democracy, they don't support the aims of the students, what they do say is they don't support the

message of these students.

LU STOUT: All right, Andrew Stevens joining us live on the scene from the Mong Kok district of Kowloon here in Hong Kong. Thank you very much

indeed for that update, Andrew.

Now the main protest area of Admiralty, that has remained largely peaceful since Sunday. Now the police have not deployed pepper spray or

tear gas since then. But Friday morning, outside the office of the chief executive of Hong Kong, tensions did indeed escalate. Ivan Watson filed

this.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A moment of tension here, just seconds ago the police forced the way open through these

demonstrators who have held a sit-in here outside government headquarters to make way for an ambulance that the police said was carrying a police

officer who had collapsed.

The protesters said we don't trust you. They said carry the police officer out. And police came with their helmets and pushed a way open

through the demonstrators.

The protesters have effectively laid siege to this building here that houses the offices of the chief executive, the number one official in Hong

Kong CY Leung who these people, they have been calling for his resignation. He refuses to step down. And they have escalated their tactics using a

protest sit-in effectively to lay siege to his offices, to prevent him from physically being able to come to work.

All of this in the name of more democratic freedoms the protesters say, but these are controversial tactics that are likely to get mixed

results within the court of public opinion here in Hong Kong.

Ivan Watson, CNN, Hong Kong.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Now it is unclear at this hour when, or even if, pro- democracy student leaders will meet with a top government official. Emily Lau, the chairwoman of one of the main pro-democracy parties here in Hong

Kong , if very familiar with the issues at hand. She joins me now live from the site of the city's main protest area in the city's central

business district across the harbor.

Emily Lao, thank you so much for joining us here on CNN. As we've been reporting this hour, peaceful, pro-democracy protesters are under

assault in Mong Kok. What's happening and why are they being targeted?

EMILY LAU, CHAIRWOMAN, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: Well, actually we don't know who is instigating all this. And it is very disturbing. Many people

are saying that maybe the Hong Kong government and Beijing behind this.

So this is an absolutely alarming.

LU STOUT: Our Andrew Stevens is live at the scene. He described that there is just a very thin police line separating the peaceful protesters

from this increasingly aggressive anti-Occupy crowd. Will there be me more police sent to Mong Kok to protect the protesters?

LAU: Well, that's the thing, how come the police did not turn up? They waited for a long time and so that's why we feel that something is

cooking. And the whole thing is very nasty and very serious.

We have such peaceful protests and now suddenly it's turned so nasty. So we want to condemn the Hong Kong government and condemn Beijing. This

is really very, very alarming and very disturbing.

LU STOUT: Now again, we're still investigating these anti-Occupy elements there at the scene. But I wanted to get your thoughts on the

violence itself and the impact it's going to have on what was scene as a breakthrough with these talks, negotiations between the student protesters

and the Hong Kong government. Will the violence negatively affect the talks?

LAU: Yes, I heard that the students and the Occupy trio said if that (inaudible) goes on, they will halt all the talks and many other people are

saying they should have no more talks. And that is terrible. How do we resolve the situation?

But the people feel that it is the government and Beijing, the Communist Party who are behind all this, working with the criminal

elements. The Hong Kong people are very angry, the pro-democracy movement is very angry. This is really, really a big shame.

LU STOUT: You call this a big shame. Tension is indeed rising. We know both sides are not standing down. We have reached major political

deadlock here. Emily Lau, what is the solution?

LAU: Well, we don't want any bloodshed. We don't want a repeat of Tiananmen, that's for sure. But it seems the authorities deliberately

allow things to get out of hand. So, if we have chaos here, it should be - - it would be on the hands of CY Leung and the Beijing regime.

I condemn them. I condemn them on CNN.

LU STOUT: And Emily Lau, the business community, we know that they have the ear of Beijing. The top business tycoons of Hong Kong just had a

meeting with Xi Jinping last week.

The business community, though, they have been very quiet. Will they speak up to help end this standoff?

LAU: Well, they have to speak up. They should speak up. This is our city, whether they are rich or poor. And now you see we are the brink of

crisis, even chaos.

Now the last thing we want is for the government to start shooting on the protesters. So someone, people in authority, they have to intervene.

They have to speak up.

LU STOUT: This is a time when we need restraint on all sides. Emily Lau, chair of the Democratic Party joining me live from the main protest

site in Admiralty. Thank you very much indeed for joining us here on CNN.

You're watching CNN News Stream. Still ahead on the program, ISIS militants, they are fighting for control of the key Syrian town right now.

And the Sunni fighters have already taken part of the city, but its Kurdish defenders say that they're ready to fight them in the streets. We have a

live report straight ahead.

Plus, the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. is under intense scrutiny. Liberia's government says he could face criminal

prosecution. Find out why after the break.

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LU STOUT: All right, welcome back. You're looking at live pictures of the main protest site in Hong Kong where pro-Democracy protesters have

been blockading a key part of the city now for a sixth straight day. The atmosphere turning hostile in some places.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a little bit scared. I haven't seen anything like this before. Yes. We do our best to stay calm and yes do what we

can.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

LU STOUT: Now that was from Mong Kok where thousands of people opposed to the ongoing democracy protests have surrounded a group of

activists.

Now police formed a human chain around the demonstrators.

Now student leaders, they accuse the government of anti-protest activity. They say they're considering abandoning talks. We'll try to

speak to some of those student leaders a little bit later in the hour.

Now let's shift now to the latest on the Ebola outbreak, specifically that case in the United States involving a man who brought the disease to

Texas from Liberia.

Now Thomas Eric Duncan is in trouble with authorities back in his home country. Now officials at the airport in Monrovia say that he lied on a

questionnaire about whether he'd been exposed to Ebola.

Now meanwhile, Duncan's girlfriend and three members of his family in Texas are in quarantine at their Dallas apartment complex. Now the unit

where they live still has not been cleaned since Duncan stayed there.

Now the World Health Organization says that more than 3,300 people have died from Ebola since the outbreak began earlier this year. And

nearly 2,000 of those deaths have been in Liberia.

For more on the spread of this deadly disease, Diana Magnay joins us now from Johannesburg in South Africa. And Diana, another update to this

story, a cameraman working for NBC in Liberia has contracted Ebola. What more have you learned about that case?

DIANA MAGNAY, CNN INTERANTIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right.

Well, he's a man called Ashoku Mpo (ph), 33-year-old freelance shooter. And he'd actually only been working with the NBC team for a

couple of hours before he started showing symptoms. He'd been in Liberia a couple of weeks before we're hearing. And he'd been in and out of the

country working both in the human rights field and as a freelance shooter for the past three years.

So, we've heard from Dr. Nancy Snyderman who is the NBC chief medical correspondent who was with him on the ground there when he started showing

symptoms. She says that he's in good spirits. That the amount of virus in his body is quite low, because they caught it so quickly. He's going to be

air lifted back to the United States. And the whole NBC team are also going to go back and put themselves into self-imposed quarantine for the 21

days, which is really, you know, an abundance of caution, as the head of NBC put it, but the way that they can be really sure that they are safe and

do not possibly infect any others -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: Now, this is one case of many, many, many cases. This is the worst Ebola outbreak on record. Liberia and Guinea are suffering the

most. I mean, what more is needed here to help better manage this deadly outbreak?

MAGNAY: Well, I don't think it's fair that Liberia and Guinea is suffering any more than Sierra Leone. I mean, the trouble is, is that

health workers on the ground tells us that the numbers of sick that they're seeing don't in any way really correlate with the government figures. And

we heard yesterday from Save the Children that they believe that in Sierra Leone alone you're seeing five new infections, five new cases every hour.

And they expect that to double within the next two or three weeks.

So much aid needs to be brought into these countries, so many beds for treatment. In Monrovia, in Liberia alone, Kristie, only 18 percent of

those who have the sickness are being treated in specialized treatment facilities where they're in isolation and be able -- being given at least

rehydration fluids and things like that and kept in isolation.

The rest are being left to die in their homes, infect those around them who are providing care.

So even though various countries -- France, the U.S., the UK, Germany, Cuba is sending in doctors, China is sending in medical workers, they've

all promised aid. But it takes a long time to trickle in. And what these countries need right now is many, many more beds to treat the people, those

who have infections and to keep them isolated so that this doesn't spread any more, that first and foremost. And then, of course, more aid workers

to train the people, the health workers in location, to bring them the equipment that they need, the gear, the disinfectant stuff.

So much is needed. And because the logistics are so hard -- it's rainy season, a lot of the carriers have stopped flying to these countries

-- it's very hard to move in everything that's required -- Kristie.

LU STOUT: All right, CNN's Diana Magnay on the story for us. Thank you, Diana.

Now a strategically important Syrian town maybe on the verge of falling to ISIS. A Kurdish fighter tells CNN that the radical militants

have entered Kobani and now have control of the southwest corner of the City. Now Kurdish snipers are firing on them, hoping to hold back their

advance.

If ISIS takes Kobani, it would control a huge stretch of land from its self-declare capital of Raqqa all the way to the Turkish border.

Now a short time ago, the Turkish prime minister said Turkey will do whatever it can to prevent the city from falling.

Meanwhile, another country is getting into the fight against ISIS. The Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott says his government has given the

go ahead or airstrikes and the use of special forces in Iraq.

And for more on this story, CNN's Phil Black joins us live from the Turkish-Syrian border. And has ISIS entered the Syrian town of Kobani?

PHIL BLACK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Kristie, that's what we're hearing from our contacts in the city, yes, they say that ISIS

has approached, entered and is now in control of a sector of the southwestern corner of the city.

So that's what we believe. We're also hearing bursts of small arms fire, which suggests close quarters fighting. That's coming in the near

distance from that southwesterly direction.

Having said that, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which is a London-based group, which gathers information daily from a network of

contacts across Syria, has denied that, says that it does not believe that ISIS is in the city itself. So conflicting information there.

What we are seeing, however, is very much a sustained bombardment by ISIS shelling particularly the eastern side of the city.

What is, I think, the heaviest bombardment of shelling, artillery fire into that eastern southeasterly corner that we've witnessed I think in

recent days.

What we are hearing from people still in the city is they fully expect ISIS to enter this city soon. They say they are preparing for street to

street fighting, bloody urban warfare. The idea of defending the street from building to building, street to street.

Now these fighters that are still there, the Kurdish fighters, the men and women who have remained to defend their homes, they say that they

believe that they would have the upper hand, at least initially in that sort of exchange, because it's their hometown. They know the streets,

they've had time to prepare for this.

But I think what it also means, clearly, is that they are being pushed back. Once ISIS enters this city, then the remaining Kurdish fighters,

they're really dropping back street by street at a time. And they're running out of room to pull back to, Kristie.

LU STOUT: It's startling and frightening that ISIS continues to make its advance in both Syria and Iraq, despite the use of airstrikes.

Phil Black joining us live on the line from the Syrian-Turkish border, many thanks indeed for that update.

You're watching News Stream coming to you live from a very stormy Hong Kong. And we're keeping close tabs on the rising tensions between Hong

Kong's pro-democracy protesters and those who say they are fed up.

Stay with us.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now CNN is proud to announce the top 10 CNN heroes of 2014, each of them will receive $25,000 and a shot at the top honor CNN Hero of the Year.

And you get to help decide who that person will be. Now here's Anderson Cooper to show you how.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANDERSON COOPER, ANCHOR, CNN'S "AC 360": Now that we've announced the top 10 CNN Heroes of 2014, I want to show you how you can choose who should

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Take a look. This is the main page from cnnheroes.com where you'll see all the top 10 and you can learn more about each one of them. Here's how

you can vote for your favorite.

Once you've decided who inspires you the most, click down here on "vote" and then a new page comes up. It shows you all of the top 10 heroes.

Now, choose the person to vote for.

I'm going to randomly select say Ned Norton over here, again just an example. His photo will show up down here under your selection. Then, just

enter your e-mail address, type in the security code and click on the vote button right down there.

It's even easier to vote on Facebook. Just make your selection and click over here. You can vote once a day, every day through Sunday,

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(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: Anderson Cooper there.

Now this week's Asian Games football final brought together North and South Korea. Now, the match, it was tense as you would expect. And for

one side, at least, there was more than just pride and glory on the line as CNN's Paula Hancocks has the story.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: When two countries that are technically at war meet to fight for a gold medal there is

inevitably going to be a lot at stake. North and South Korea have not met in the Asian Games before finals since 1978, last time it was a draw. But

this time, South Korea won, although not without some controversy.

With almost the last kick of extra time, South Korea scored a scrappy goal, one that the North Korean coach complained about, claiming a handball

should have stopped play.

Now athlete who defected from the north tells me the only thing worse than them losing is losing to South Korea.

But as you can see, the South Korean team is ecstatic winning its first football gold for 28 years, plus an added sweetener for the younger

players on the team. They'll be exempted from their almost two years of compulsory military service.

You have to appreciate the irony that they escape military service by beating the country that makes military service necessary.

A better result for North Korea Tuesday when their women's football team beat Japan in the final to win gold. And a better atmosphere -- North

and South Korean players took photos together and the crowd, which was filled with South Koreans were cheering for the North, some of them were

wearing t-shirts calling for harmony on the peninsula, and others were chanting we are one.

Paula Hancocks, CNN, Seoul.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

LU STOUT: You're watching News Stream. And still ahead on the program, clashes break out at pro-democracy protests in parts of Hong Kong.

Could that put talks between student protesters and the government in jeopardy? The latest next.

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LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. These are your world headlines.

Now thousands of Hong Kong residents who say that they want life to get back to normal have surrounded a group of pro-democracy protesters in

one neighborhood. Now the scuffles are ongoing. We have just learned that pro-democracy protesters are getting support there from fellow protesters

who have arrived on the scene.

Liberia says it may prosecute Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to test positive for Ebola in the United States. And airport official in

Monrovia says Duncan lied on a questionnaire about whether he had been exposed to the virus. Now Duncan's girlfriend and three of her family

members are under quarantine at her apartment in Dallas, Texas, which still hasn't been sanitized.

In Afghanistan, British Prime Minister David Cameron says Afghan forces are now responsible for keeping their country safe. Now he spoke in

Kabul where he's meeting the country's new leadership.

Now Mr. Cameron also said that Britain will continue to provide nearly $300 million a year in financial support to Afghanistan until 2017.

And the U.S. jobs report for September is out. The U.S. economy added 248,000 jobs last month. The jobless rate fell to 5.9 percent.

Now here in Hong Kong, protest leaders are threatening to cancel talks with the government after what they call organized attacks on their

supporters. Now Joshua Wong is the head of the Scholarism student group. And he joins us now live from the main protest site.

And Josh, thank you for joining us.

As we've been reporting, peaceful pro-democracy protesters are under attack in Mong Kok. What is your message to protesters in Mong Kok right

now?

JOSHUA WONG, SCHOLARISM FOUNDER: I'm quite disappointed with the attitude of the people who are in the government camp. As we know that

although we are organizing the civil disobedience, we're still (inaudible) our principle of peace and nonviolence.

I hope the protesters are still (inaudible) and Mong Kok will (inaudible) principle. And we show that we have better quality compared to

the people who support government.

LU STOUT: Do you want the protesters in Mong Kok to stay in Mong Kok or to move to where you are in Admiralty?

WONG: Actually, Scholarism and Hong Kong Federation of Students and OCRP (ph) we are (inaudible) announcement and ask the people, especially

for student and old people, they should move the place for the demonstration from Mong Kok to Admiralty, which is the place nearby the

central -- the government office. This should be more safe.

However, in this moment, more and more people who love Hong Kong and believe in justice, they come to Mong Kok to support the people who are

still remain in the same place.

So, the (inaudible) action is still contained. Yeah.

LU STOUT: Who are the anti-Occupy people who are attacking the student protesters and the pro-Democracy protesters in Mong Kok. Who are

they?

WONG: Actually, I do not know that detail background. But I think they're not just some normal citizens who live in Hong Kong, because after

CY Leung become the CE of -- chief executive of Hong Kong, some of the people have the background they will use violence to hurt others.

I think they are being organized.

LU STOUT: Joshua, the peaceful protests have turned very ugly today. So what does this mean for the negotiations that you, the student leaders,

along with Alex Chow and the other organizers of the protest, what does it mean for your talks with the Hong Kong government?

WONG: After the government would (inaudible) would like to give (inaudible) with students, one day later, it -- the people who support the

government come to hurt the demonstrators. If the government does not stop this problem, Hong Kong Federation of Students will not (inaudible) later,

yeah.

Because we believe that governments should pay their responsibility of this accident.

LU STOUT: So, I want to clarify what you're saying. If you're saying if the violence against pro-democracy protesters in Mong Kok goes on, and

if the police don't do anything about it, you will end talks with the Hong Kong government. Is that right?

WONG: Pardon?

LU STOUT: What you're saying if the violence continues in Mong Kok, you will end your talks with the Hong Kong government right?

WONG: Actually, I think for the Hong Kong government to give immediate response to show the attitude towards the people who support the

government, but use violence. Because as we know that while the policemen and government would like to blame or -- would blame or comment that the

people who support freedom and democracy may be so using violence, later on the people in the -- who support government use the same standard to hurt

others.

We hope the government will stop this issue by a different method (ph).

LU STOUT: And one final question for you today. Earlier today here in Kowloon, I heard a very angry man who is yelling at pro-Democracy

protesters saying stop this movement. I want my street back. Are you afraid that there are many ordinary Hong Kongers who feel that way, that as

your protest goes on that they will not support your pro-democracy movement?

WONG: That was actually a different demonstrator, a protest and place, especially for (inaudible). They have the independent thinking to

make that decision.

I think although we have different opinion on different arrangement, but we still have -- we still maintain a same direction to hope CY Leung to

step down and to fight for true universal suffrage.

LU STOUT: OK. Joshua Wong, thank you so much for joining us here on CNN. Joshua Wong is, of course, the 17-year-old student leader, the leader

of the Scholarism Group here in Hong Kong, one of the leaders behind the pro-democracy movement here across the city.

Now as mentioned that there are these multiple groups protesting in Hong Kong. Some say the cracks are beginning to show in this decentralized

movement. And one thing that has managed to bring people together over the last six days: mobile phones.

Of course they've been used for more than these nighttime vigils.

Now protest organizers have been using social media to spread their message. And earlier, Occupy Central called on its supporters to leave

Mong Kok for their safety and to join the crowd in Admiralty. IT also condemned the government and policy for failing to protect them.

Now another main group, the Hong Kong Federation of Students recently added, "remain peaceful and calm despite provocation."

Now let's talk more about the important role of social media in this protest. Glacier Kwong is the organizer of an activist group called

Keyboard Frontline. She joins us now.

Glacier, thank you for joining here on CNN.

You know, just last Sunday you put out this YouTube video and it was this appeal to the world to pay attention and to care for Hong Kong. That

video got more than a million views on YouTube. Why do you think the world is interested in your protest here in Hong Kong?

GLACIER KWONG, FOUNDER, KEYBOARD FRONTLINE: I think people are interested because people are actually care about Hong Kong, the democratic

progress in Hong Kong. If Hong Kong get real democracy, it means that the whole of China may get a chance in getting more and more democracy.

So I think people care about Hong Kong's democratic progress because of this.

LU STOUT: Now you're a first year student at the University of Hong Kong. And you've been involved in the protest, not since last weekend, but

actually the week before with the student strike that was taking place then. So you've been invested all along the way.

And as part of Keyboard Frontline, you've been publishing materials and passing them out to student protesters and pro-democracy protesters in

how to use technology to demonstrate.

What have been your tips for them?

KWONG: We ask protesters to use their phone as a media -- to deliver message and information to better protests on the Internet. We advise them

to use Ustream to put on live of the protests so that more and more people will know what is happening on site.

And we asked them to use encrypted apps for conversation if they are - - if they have to talk during the protest. I use Telegram, Wicker and Beast encrypted apps so that they can protect their personal data and

personal information.

LU STOUT: You've also provided information on what the students should do in the event of arrest. What's your advice?

KWONG: We ask them not to sign anything. If they want to remain silent, they can remain total silence to the police. They don't have to

answer any questions asked by the police if they don't want to talk a bout it or answer them.

LU STOUT: And I want to ask you about the news this hour, what's happening in Mong Kok, which is not that far away. And what we know about

what's happening there is a number of anti-Occupy protesters, thousands of them, have surrounded peaceful pro-democracy protesters -- our apologies,

we know that the rain is seeping through the tent here and a little bit of rain is getting on us. I'm sorry about that, Glacier, but what is your

feeling right now about this moment in your struggle for democracy here in Hong Kong where it's starting to turn ugly and some elements are turning

against your movement? As a protester, how are you feeling right now?

KWONG: I feel quite angry and worried, because we actually are peaceful protesters. Yes, it's -- indeed we've blocked a road and we cause

inconvenience for the neighborhood, but we didn't mean to do any harm. So, when those anti-Occupy protesters actually they're hitting students and

moving away our barriers, I feel very worried about the peaceful protesters there that they will lose their protection and got -- and they will be

forced to leave there if the police use violence too -- evacuate them.

LU STOUT: Joshua Wong, who is one of the student leaders, I just spoke to him just now. And his message is basically if this violence goes

on and not enough police protection is offered to the protesters, talks with the government is off. Do you agree with that? Do you think that's a

good tack?

KWONG: Yes, I agree with him, because I think even if we are protesters, we deserve basic health. So I think the police are responsible

to protect peaceful protesters from being harassed by those angry anti- Occupy protesters.

LU STOUT: Why is democracy so important for you?

KWONG: Because I think it's basic human right. And we have our (inaudible) our own leader, because what this leader -- this chief

executive decide will affect every single event in our lives.

LU STOUT: And how long do you plan to keep up your protest, despite the rain, despite anti-Occupy threats, how long do you plan to be out

there?

KWONG: I will stay outside until the government actually answers to our demands. And we want true democracy and universal suffrage.

LU STOUT: All right, Glacier Kwong of Keyboard Frontline and a university protester joining us. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you

and take care.

Now China has blocked Instagram earlier this week -- we reported it here on News Stream -- as part of its effort to keep images of this large-

scale demonstration from Mainland China. And state broadcasters have largely stayed away from the story as well.

But our Beijing correspondent David McKenzie notes a change today. He posted on Twitter this, quote, "CCTV now showing limited imagery of Hong

Kong rather than nothing. Perhaps things turning in their favor. But CNN still black."

Now we'll have much more ahead right here from Hong Kong. We'll keep our eye on the situation in Mong Kok where there were clashes earlier

today. And student leader Joshua Wong told protesters to leave the area for their own safety, but told us that more protesters are still making

their way there.

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LU STOUT: All this week, CNN's On the Road series is bringing you greater insight into the customs and culture of South Korea, from their

innovations in technology to their sporting power in baseball, we explore how this country is rebranding itself. And today, Paula Newton shows us

why camping is turning into a favorite pastime in Korea.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are so busy. We usually work until very late.

PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The journey takes them little more than two hours from Seoul.

CHOI SEUNG YEON, CAMPER: This is the kind of getaway form the usual life. So when I get here, I just relax for a whole day.

NEWTON: Bur really, they are a million miles away.

YEON: I just let the kids play around, run around anywhere they want to go.

NEWTON: For the Choi family, this is a coveted refuge. Moments of wild abandon for the kids as three generations savor a very precious

commodity in South Korea -- downtime.

YEON: It's amazing. I breathe this fresh air with this natural environment, that's really great. Compared to life in Seoul, it's a like a

whole time relaxing. So I just get here and try to do nothing.

NEWTON: While camping and hiking have been popular in South Korea for decades, in the last few years organized campsites like this one are booked

solid, outdoor equipment businesses booming.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When I was a little kid, my father took me to the camping. At the time there was the (inaudible) not like this. It was

really hard to set up.

NEWTON: In those days, Mr. Choi carried everything on his back, even the tent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But now, it's very easy compared to old time.

NEWTON: Nicknamed Glamping by some, much of the work -- the camp setup, the facilities, the food is taken care of for you. The atmosphere,

however contrived, is priceless in a country still striving to succeed where families are stressed to the limit by work and school.

The camp director here laughs, "the fathers might actually be more stressed here. They have to build tents, cook, play." But the benefit for

all is undeniable.

HWANG WOO JOING, CAMP DIRECTOR (through translator): Camping is a good opportunity to show the father's role, because he has to build a tent

and he will cook.

The children will get to see how amazing it is that fathers and mothers stop nagging them to study. This is the best part of camping.

YEON: There's no TV. This is the point that we have to talk to each other. And I think that kind of talking would make our relationship more

closer.

NEWTON: Koreans says camping used to be all about the cookouts. These days the country is making time, too, to make memories.

Paula Newton, CNN, Garong (ph) camping park in South Korea.

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LU STOUT: We have much more ahead. Do stay with CNN.

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LU STOUT: Now tensions are rising on the sixth straight day of pro- democracy protests on the streets of Hong Kong.

Now scuffles have broken out between the protesters and people who want them off the streets. Now protest organizers have taken to social

media urging their supporters to leave one neighborhood for their own safety, though we have just learned that in fact more pro-democracy

protesters are actually arriving on the scene to offer their support.

Now student leaders say that they could call of talks with the top Hong Kong official if the government does not stop what they say are

organized attacks on pro-democracy protesters. That's what we learned in the last hour with that interview with Joshua Wong, one of the student

leaders.

Now, but people opposed to the protests, they say they want their streets back.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) Occupy here for (inaudible). They make everybody -- every people angry. And they can't carry on like this.

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LU STOUT: Now earlier, Andrew Stevens was in the middle of a tense scene in Mong Kok. Take a look at what happens.

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ANDREW STEVENS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A new turn in the Occupy Hong Kong protest. What you're looking at here are tens of

thousands of people who have come down to demonstrate against the Occupy movement.

As you can see, tensions are incredibly high here at the moment. These people have come down here to say it's time to leave, it's time for

the Occupy protesters to go home. They are hurting business.

But as you can see, there is still defiance on both sides of this very, very thing blue line separated by just a handful of police.

Already we've seen stalls torn down where protesters have been camping. They've been here for more than a week now.

This is actually one of the busiest shopping precincts in the entire city. And many, many of the people who are demonstrating against the

Occupy people here are actually small business owners -- stall holders, people who can't afford not to be earning money. Many of them would be

earning -- working seven days a week. They can't not have an income coming.

And this is the point they're making, but so far a very resolute response from the Occupy protesters. They are going nowhere.

Andrew Stevens, CNN, Hong Kong.

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LU SOTUT: Incredible and very fresh footage there of the rising tensions in the Hong Kong district of Mong Kok.

And that is News Stream live from Hong Kong's Victoria Harbor. We will continue to watch the situation here as unprecedented protest action

goes on. We'll have much more in the hours ahead on CNN. World Business Today is next.

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