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MANISHA TANK, CNN GUEST HOST: Hi, there. I'm Manisha Tank in Hong Kong. A warm welcome to News Stream where news and technology meet.

A new report appears to confirm that MH17 was shot down, but it doesn't say who was responsible.

Is this the iPhone 6? We'll look at the clues to see what Apple is set to unveil in just a few hours from now.

And the most expensive video game ever made is out today. We'll get a review of Destiny.

Welcome to the show. Dutch investigators say Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 was hit by, quote, a large number of high energy objects from outside the

aircraft. They're stopping short of using the word missile, but the report does appear to support claims that the plane was shot out of the sky.

U.S. and Ukrainian officials claim pro-Russian separatists brought the plane down with a surface to air missile, but rebels deny that.

MH17 crashed in eastern Ukraine near the border with Russia on July 17. All 298 people on board were killed.

Well, today's report is not meant to apportion blame, just lay out the facts.

Well, CNN's aviation analyst Richard Quest has been pouring over all of the detail of this. He's live from CNN Center right now with us.

What stood out to you? Clearly this was not about blame, this is going to be the first of many reports, Richard. But what is the most important

thing in this report?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: What's the most important thing is it confirms that it was external causes in the phrases of the

report, "the aircraft was penetrated by high energy objects from outside the aircraft, which caused the plane to break up," in other words, a

proximity missile.

Why didn't they use the word missile? Why use this phrase high energy objects, because what they did was look at the photographs. They analyzed

from photographs satellite data, but with very limited amounts of physical evidence, that's still in the fields of Ukraine.

The way the material, the way the metal had been punctured, penetrated, the discoloring, the disformation of it. And the chairman of the Netherlands

safety board was asked why didn't you just use the word missile.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TJIBBE JOUSTRA, CHAIRMAN, DUTCH SAFETY BOARD: We didn't use the word missile, our main conclusion in the report is that flight MH17 broke down

in the air as a result of damage caused by objects penetrating the aircraft from outside. That's our main conclusion.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

QUEST: Now the other report will -- and the final report, Manisha, will no doubt go further, and that will be after they have examined and they have

managed to analyze the metal that they've found not only in the remains of the passengers, but also that which they can recover from the ground in

Ukraine.

TANK: Of course, Richard, I mean, we're -- so effectively what we're doing is we're able to extrapolate that it could be a missile -- already people

looking at that and saying, well, is that how a BUQ missile would operate. And this is the one that people talked about a lot of the time that it

might have been the type of missile that would be responsible.

QUEST: Yes. And of course there be the other side that will say it's a missile from a Ukrainian airforce jet. There will be others who will claim

it was another form of missile. And that will be determined when they have further evidence.

What the report says -- let's just go through -- besides the high energy objects, it says the flight data recorder was not manipulated and not

tampered with. In other words, the information is correct.

The incident that happened at 13:20:03 was so fast there was no mayday, there was no warnings, communications just stopped.

It was at the front of the aircraft, you can tell by looking at the geographical spread of the debris where the pieces fell out of the sky --

the nose section is closest to where the plane was last flying, then because the engines keep going, the remainder of the plane is further away.

And put it all together, they will also have to determine, and this I expect in the final report, what further safety actions need to be taken to

prevent this from ever happening again, because Manisha, what's crucial there were three other planes, commercial jets -- two 777s, one 330, flying

close by. One was just 30 kilometers away.

This really was a case of there but for the grace of god go I, because it could have been any one of them that got hit.

TANK: Indeed.

And of course still fields of debris there that, you know, investigators can't even get to. We'll have to talk about that perhaps another time

Richard. Thank you very much for bringing us up to date on that report, very important report out today.

Now, the Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin are discussing what Moscow says it hopes will be the

peaceful settlement of the situation in Ukraine. The two leaders spoke by phone on Monday. And they'll continue to do so.

Meanwhile, a tense ceasefire is in effect. Kiev and pro-Russian rebel leaders signed a deal in Belarus on Friday, but by Saturday they were

accusing each other of violating it.

Well, the lay of the land has changed dramatically and rapidly over the past few months pro-Russian rebels are doing what they can to assert their

independence.

As Reza Sayah reports, they're doing far more than creating borders and making laws.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

REZA SAYAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In a makeshift television studio in eastern Ukraine, camouflage clad militiamen operate the cameras

as a room full of eager young women wait for their shot at local television stardom.

The coveted prize for this audition, a job as a news presenter for Novorosiya (ph) TV, New Russia TV in English, the new network named after

what some are calling the rebel held Russian speaking region in southeastern Ukraine.

No experience necessary here, says the ad, only passion and energy.

The rush television tryout is the rebel's way of telling the central government in Kiev we don't need you.

Ever since February's pro-European revolution toppled Ukraine's former pro- Russian president, separatists in the southeast have demanded independence by introducing their own flag, establishing a volunteer militia,

positioning check posts at their self-proclaimed borders, and introducing the death penalty against anyone convicted of treason.

Other peculiar moves have followed -- Havel Gobarve (ph) is the self- proclaimed Republic of Donetsk governor, a 31 year old activist who was formerly a Santa Claus for hire. Irina Filatovo was the Luhansk Republic's

first foreign minister, a woman whose foreign policy experience was as scant as her attire in pictures that later surfaced on the internet.

And now news anchor tryouts for pro-Russian rebel TV, all outcomes of a conflict that's divided a nation with often bizarre consequences.

Reza Sayah, CNN, Kiev.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

TANK: The power of media at play.

Now, this is the man that is tapped to lead Iraq's new unity government -- Haider al Abadi was sworn in as prime minister on Monday fueling hopes that

the country can overturn the growing threat of ISIS.

The new government includes Sunnis and Kurds, a key requirement for continued U.S. assistance.

The U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry is heading to Jordan, meanwhile today, to rally support for a coalition to defeat ISIS. He called the

formation of the new unity government in Iraq a major milestone.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOHN KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: Just a few hours ago overcoming the obstacle of ethnic and sectarian divides, the Iraqi parliament approved a

new and inclusive government, one that has the potential to unite all of Iraq's diverse communities for a strong Iraq, a united Iraq, and to give

those communities the chance to build the future that all Iraqis desire and deserve.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

TANK: And U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.

Well, Iraq's previous Shia-led government has been accused of marginalizing the country's Sunni Muslims and helping to create support for the Sunni

extremists of ISIS.

As Anna Coren reports, many now believe that turning the tide on ISIS depends on winning over Iraq's Sunni population.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

ANNA COREN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In long-armed convoys, they drove in from the west, uninvited but welcomed in some Sunni communities.

Representing themselves as liberators, ISIS would chase Iraq's Shite dominated government forces out of one-third of the country.

But their arrival has turned into what many now see as a foreign occupation with an extremist ideology most Sunnis do not believe in.

While the battle against the extremists is currently being led by Iraq's Shiite and Kurdish military with the support of U.S. airstrikes, everyone

knows that to ultimately degrade and destroy ISIS, the Sunni population must oppose them.

This took place back in 2007 when Sunni tribal leaders, backed by the Americans, turned on al Qaeda were the sons of Iraq. But they claim they

were later double-crossed.

YAHYA ISMAIL AL SONBOL, SUNNI TRIBAL LEADER (through translator): We kicked out al Qaeda in 2007. What was the use? We cleaned Iraq to have it

given to Iran. If Iran is kicked out, we'll kick ISIS out.

COREN: Sheikh Yaya, a powerful Sunni tribal leader, believes Iran is behind Iraq's Shia militia at war with the Sunnis. He says the only way to

rebuild trust is for the new Iraqi government to return more power to his people.

SONBOL (through translator): If they don't give rights to Sunnis in Iraq, it is not worth it for us to fight against ISIS.

COREN: But even if the new government in Baghdad provides greater rights, switching allegiances will be a delicate process.

Governor Najaifi who fled his base on Mosul hours before the militants arrived, says it can only be a Sunni force that liberates ISIS strongholds

like his city.

ATHEEL AL-NUJAIFI, NINEVEH GOVERNOR: If that force was accepted upon the people, I think there is no fight. But if that force was refused from the

people and ISIS succeed to say to the people they are -- it will be our (inaudible).

COREN: Pockets of homegrown resistance are appearing. This video, purportedly shows gunmen in Mosul killing two ISIS militants. And the

governor claims there are thousands of men ready to take up arms.

While President Obama and his international coalition are banking on a Sunni uprising to get rid of ISIS, some community leaders here say that

plan is fraught with danger. If it backfires, it could trigger a fullblown sectarian war, which in the words of one tribal leader would be 10 times

worse than ISIS.

Anna Coren, CNN, Irbil, Kurdistan, Iraq.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

TANK: Two U.S. law enforcement officials tell CNN they may have identified the masked man in the ISIS video that showed the killing of American

journalist James Foley. They believe he's a British citizen tied to a group of extremists based in London. But the officials declined to name

him, citing the ongoing investigation.

You're watching News Stream. And coming up, the professional career of American football player Ray Rice has hit the rocks, this after a shocking

video shows him knocking down hi fiancee. But as condemnation pours in, he has one unlikely supporter.

Is this the iPhone 6? Videos of Apple's new device hit Chinese social media hours before it's set to be unveiled.

Plus, in Scotland, the calls for yes are getting louder than ever. We'll tell you more about the mood on the ground ahead of potentially history-

making referendum.

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TANK: Hi, again, you're watching News Stream. And you're looking at a visual version of the stories that we've got in the show today. We've

already brought you the findings of a preliminary report on the crash of MH17.

And later, we'll show you how Japan is reacting to Kei Nishikori's loss at the U.S. Open.

But now to shocking evidence of domestic violence by an NFL player. Running back Ray Rice has been fired from his team and suspended from

professional football. It happened after video emerged of Rice assaulting his then fiancee earlier this year.

Now questions are being asked about what the league knew and when they knew it.

Miguel Marquez has more on Ray Rice's downfall.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A shocking incidence of domestic violence caught on camera. Baltimore Ravens star player Ray Rice

purging his then fiancee Janay Palmer, knocking her out cold callously dragging here from the elevator. The reaction, swift, terminated by the

Ravens, indefinitely suspended by the NFL. His career possibly over. That was not the reaction when the video from outside the elevator was published

by TMZ in February. Rice was suspended two game, considered by many way too forgiving. Through it all, Janay Palmer stood by her man.

JANAY PALMER, WIFE OF RAY RICE: I love Ray and I know he will continue to prove himself to not only you all but the community. And I know he will

gain your respect back in due time.

MARQUEZ: Even appearing to apologize for her role in the incident.

PALMER: Do I deeply regret the role that I played in the incident that night. But I can say that I am happy that we continued to work through it

together.

MARQUEZ: Both Palmer and Rice were charged with assault in the February incident at an Atlantic City casino.

RAY RICE, BALTIMORE RAVENS PLAYER: My actions that night were totally inexcusable. You know, that night, let me put this away. That night, I just

replay it over and over again in my head. You know, that's not me. My actions are inexcusable.

MARQUEZ: Both the Ravens and the NFL said they had not seen the second video from inside the elevator until it was made public by TMZ today. The

NFL said Rice was undergoing a pretrial intervention program in May that would have kept him from being prosecuted and given him a clean record

after a year. Rice and Palmer wed in March.

PALMER: We are continuing to strengthen our relationship and our marriage and do we have to do for not only ourselves collectively but individually

and working on being better parents for Raven and continuing to be good role models for the community.

MARQUEZ: The sickening video now testing the limits of that relationship forcing the hands of the Ravens and NFL. The season just beginning,

domestic violence now in the spotlight.

Miguel Marquez, CNN, New York.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

TANK: Right, well it's a big day for Apple. CEO Tim Cook is expected to unveil two new iPhones and a brand new wearable device, whew, it's all too

much in one day.

We've already seen plenty of leaks, of course, from Chinese social media showing what people claim to be the iPhone 6.

Well, we can't confirm that this really is the new iPhone, but it does seem to match most of the rumors out there.

It will apparently come in two sizes, both significantly larger than the current iPhone. It's also thinner and sports a metallic body.

While there are plenty of leaks showing the new iPhone, there is virtually nothing out there showing Apple's new wearable device.

Well, we're going to have to wait four more hours -- oh yes, the clock is very much ticking, you can see it here -- to see what apple actually has up

its sleeve. But you can find a few more hints if you look at some of its recent hires.

Experts and executives from these companies have joined Apple in just the last 18 months. Burberry, in particular, right here -- some, you know,

pointing out that some of them have come from the world of fashion. You wouldn't normally expect that, would you -- while others have come from

finance, potentially lending the expertise to Apple's mobile payment platform.

But there's a notable emphasis on another sector, and that is health, specifically health tracking. And these companies primarily work on

biosensors that monitor things like heart rate, blood, glucose and sleep. That's exactly the kind of data Apple want you to store in its new health

app.

It will be available in iOS 8 and is expected to work with the new wearable device.

Oh, taking a big, deep breath, because it's certainly a big day for Apple. And a big day for Apple fans, of course.

Still to come, the U.S. Open has named a new men's grand slam champ. Just ahead, we take a look at how the 14th seeded player managed to surprise

everyone to take the title. Stay with us.

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TANK: Well, you can now call him grand slam winner, Marin Cilic of Croatia. And his first slam title on Monday night at the U.S. Open,

beating Japan's Kei Nishikori in a decisive straight sets victory.

Well, Andy Scholes has all the details from New York. It promised to be an exciting match, but straight sets, huh?

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, I mean, as you know this is a final match no one really saw coming. Both Cilic and Nishikori were playing in

their first ever grand slam final. And it was Cilic, you know, who definitely seized the moment. He looked even more dominant than he did

against Federer in the semifinals.

And the match, you know, he was able to beat Nishikori in less than two hours, as you said, winning in straight sets, all of them were 6-3, 6-3, 6-

3, which is remarkable. You know, 40 years since a U.S. Open men's runner up failed to win at least four games in any set of the final.

Cilic said afterwards that winning the U.S. Open, dream come true.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARIN CILIC, 2014 U.S. OPEN MEN'S TENNIS CHAMPION: I mean, it seems completely unreal to be called Grand Slam champion. I was dreaming about

this all my life and suddenly last four or five days everything started to change and what it means to me -- it means everything. It's just a huge

accomplishment and huge, huge moment for myself and for my team and for everybody around me who were -- who was with me all these years supporting

me, believing in me and never giving up.

So, this is just the peak of the world.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHOLES: I mean, Manisha, if I were to ask you who was going to win the U.S. Open two weeks ago you probably would have said a bunch of people

before you got to Cilic, as would everybody else.

He had 100 to 1 odds of winning the tournament when it started, so pretty remarkable to see how far he's come.

TANK: Yeah, and it was also pretty remarkable to see how far Kei Nishikori went, even if he didn't win at the final. A disappointing day for

Nishikori. But what's next for him?

SCHOLES: Yeah, you said it right. This was an amazing run for Nishikori. You know, the whole country of Japan, you know, on his side right behind

him cheering him along the whole time.

He was the first man from Asia to play in a Grand Slam final. And, you know, coming into the final he probably had the most impressive tournament.

He beat the fifth, third, and top ranked player at the U.S. Open. You know, obviously he's disappointed not to bring Japan their first title,

but, yeah, he still says it was a very good experience for him.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

KEI NISHIKORI, TENNIS PLAYER: To say I was a little bit nervous, a little bit. You know, first final. I mean, even 10 minutes. But, you know, but

excited these two weeks. You know, I didn't expect nothing coming here before I was injured and (inaudible) and yeah, there are so many positive

things for sure that I can get from these two weeks, you know, beating Stan and, you know, Novak again. And, you know, but pretty disappointed of

course today, but very, very good two weeks.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHOLES: And Nishikori very talented. He's only 24 years old. I imagine we're going to see much more from him in the future -- Manisha.

TANK: Yeah. He's done amazingly well. And his whole country behind him, too.

All right, Andy, thank you so much.

You're watching News Stream. And we're counting down to Scotland's referendum on independence. UK lawmakers are ramping up their efforts to

keep the country united. But poll numbers show they could have a tough fight ahead.

Plus, you're looking at the most expensive video game ever made. Is Destiny worth your money? We'll get a review. That's up next.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

TANK: I'm Manisha Tank in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream and these are your world headlines.

Dutch investigators say Malaysia Airlines flight 17 was hit by, quote, "a large number of high energy objects from outside the aircraft."

In a report released today, crash investigators say there is no indication of any technical failure. The passenger jet fell out of the sky over

eastern Ukraine near the border with Russia on July 17. All 298 people on board were killed.

The World Health Organization is warning of a dire emergency in Liberia. The WHO says several thousand more cases of Ebola are expected in just the

next three weeks. The organization explains that beds for Ebola patients have run out, which is contributing to an exponential rise in infections.

Iraq has a new government. It includes Sunnis and Kurds, groups that were scene as marginalized by the country's leadership. The U.S. has praised

the formation of a unity government, that was a key requirement for continued U.S. support in the fight against ISIS militants.

Ahead of Scotland's critical referendum on independence, David Cameron says he's called off his weekly prime minister's questions, the session that

regularly happens. He and other party leaders planned to head north to campaign.

Now this comes as a new poll shows that next week's vote is too close to call. Research firms TNS found 39 percent say no to independence while 38

percent say yes. It's remarkably close. A sizable number are still, as yet, undecided.

Well, the Yes Scotland campaign is trying to win over those undecided voters. So, let's cross to Max Foster. He's been looking at this story.

He's in London with the latest. And in just the last few hours, Max, I mean, those people who thought that David Cameron was playing chicken with

this issue may be today's events have changed their minds.

MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, perhaps he wasn't taking it seriously enough up until now, the yes campaign doing so well in

Scotland.

I don't think I'm saying too much by saying there is a sense of panic here in Westminster. Prime Minister's questions on a Wednesday afternoon, the

big event of the week, and the prime minister has decided to skip it to head to Scotland and join that no campaign.

Not just him, also the leader of the opposition Ed Milliband and also his coalition partner, the deputy prime minister Nick Clegg who leads the

Liberal Democrats.

All three party leaders heading to Scotland with the same message, no to independence.

Extraordinary that they're all working together like this. They won't be campaigning together, but they all have got the shared aim. In a joint

statement, they said there's a lot that does divide us, but there's one thing one which we agree passionately: the United Kingdom is better

together.

A bit of a gamble, I have to say, for David Cameron. Not the most popular figure in Scotland. But this adds to this sense of panic that he needs to

do whatever he can not to be the last prime minister of Scotland as a united kingdom.

ANDERSON: And of course they're not doing any of this just from Westminster. They're actually going to head up north. And like you say,

quite extraordinary they're all doing it at the same time.

Some suggestion from some MPs that even the queen should intervene as someone who often has a royal beat. What did you make of those comments?

FOSTER: Well, there is some pressure for -- from MPs to ask David Cameron for the queen to intervene. The palace has told me there's no way that she

would ever get involved in any sort of political comment, that would undermine the monarchy that she's always lived up to be, which is an

impartial, independent monarchy. And she says it's very much down to the people of Scotland what they decide.

You know, have seen this before. Australia broke away, Canada broke away. So there is a precedent for this.

But David Cameron could, in theory, ask her to effectively read something out that he wants her to read, which is do not leave the union. I don't

think she would want to get involved in that. And that would make her feel uncomfortable and David Cameron probably wouldn't ask her to do that, but

certainly some pressure on him to ask her to do that.

At the moment, really, the champion of the no campaign has turned out to be Gordon Brown, the former prime minister here who has entered the debate

quite recently, really, in a high profile role. And he's really defining what an alternative to a yes vote would be. So this is what he said last

night.

TANK: OK, Max, I think -- unfortunately we're unable to hear what he had to say. But, yes, like you say, that could actually be more persuasive

than anything else.

What, perhaps, a lot of this underlines is that there has always been this sense up in Scotland that in Westminster that the Scottish are what taken

for granted. You think all of this has proved that point now that we're just days away from the referendum.

FOSTER: I think there is that -- I mean, certainly yesterday we saw when the markets opened. I know you're reporting on it, Manisha, the pound sank

very dramatically. I think the reality was that London hadn't really thought about what their response would be if Scotland did vote yes in this

independence vote, this referendum. There wasn't the right preparations taken place there, and actually it could cause big economic repercussions

if they were to split away.

So many unanswered questions there.

But also, a sense of arrogance in London that they haven't really thought that Scotland would break away. And that's really driven part of the yes

campaign in Scotland.

So it's been an interesting process, a bit of a sense in Scotland that London has been quite pompous about this. And that's now turning around.

They've got less than 10 days now to turn around the campaign, but I think if they could offer an alternative vision to the yes campaign, an

alternative future, which is an idea of a greater powers in Scotland, than they could make a bit of a comeback.

But whether it's too late to make the ultimate comeback, it's hard to say. A lot of the postal votes, thousands of them, have already been made. So

that part of the campaign has already been lost.

TANK: Yeah, indeed.

OK, not long now. I guess we're going to find out soon.

Max, thanks very much for that. The latest there from London. I'm really sorry we couldn't get across that sound bite from Gordon Brown.

As always, thanks Max.

So, we take you to a weather story now that we've been following quite closely over the last few days, the last week or so. These are these

deadly floods in India and in Pakistan, which is actually seeing the two countries working together to help people affected.

Mari Ramos has been following this story for us. She's at the World Weather Center. Mari, what's the latest?

MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, now with over 350 people that have been killed in the flooding, it continues to be a very

serious situation as there are thousands upon thousands of people that are still seeking higher ground hoping to be rescued from the flood waters that

are taking a long time to recede.

This is a picture from Harfizabad in Pakistan. Can you imagine just having that little narrow strip of land with some of your belongings? That's

where people are waiting for a rescue. You can see the helicopter there in the background. They're plucking people right off rooftops and off the

water.

This is a picture from neighboring India. Very scary moment here when, you know, the locals just put up a couple of pieces of rope and were trying to

get from one side to the other. Very, very dangerous conditions.

Let's go ahead and look at the pictures from India. These images where you see water as far as the eye can see and people waving down the helicopters

for help. Daring rescues like the ones that you see here, a mother clutching her young child, elderly people being plucked out of the water

and from rooftops onto rescue helicopters. This is a situation happening over and over across parts of India. And you can see how much work they

have to do, because the flooding is so extensive.

The next piece of video I want to show you is from Pakistan. And here, a similar situation, water everywhere.

One of the concerns across Pakistan is that this high water is making its way now through, or toward, I should say, the river systems. And in the

next few days, we're going to see even more flooding downstream from where the worst of the flooding happened in areas upstream where the rain

originally came down very, very heavily. That's where people are still stranded in areas to the north and where the water has receded. They're

having just destroyed homes to come back to, or if anything at all because so many areas have been completely decimated.

Come back over to the weather map. Let's stay on the topic of Pakistan and this area of northern India. As far as rain, we're just expecting a few

scattered rain showers, but any amount of rain that falls here is still a huge concern. For Pakistan in particular, these river systems, these very

large systems. You have the Indus River, the Jhelum River and the Chenab River.

Right now the flood crest is right before we get to that confluence of the Jhelum and the Chenab River. And once they meet, those areas right there,

they're expecting one of the highest flood crests that they've ever seen and it's already higher than normal, it's already flooded. So once this

water crest gets here, that's going to be a huge concern for authorities in that area. And that's the next peak that they're concerned about.

And then, after that, the projected crest moving into the weekend when that water meets up with the larger Indus River. We're talking about large

population centers, then, as we head across central and eventually into southern Pakistan. So we still have quite a long ways to go.

Let's go ahead and move on. I want to take you now to the United States where we had some serious flooding, also, that happened very, very quickly.

This is happening in the western and the southwestern U.S. These images right over here of rescues -- and Manisha, no matter where you see the

rescues happening, still the same thing, authorities scrambling to try to get people to safety very, very quickly. At least one person died in

record setting rainfall in Phoenix, Arizona. Over 100 millimeters of rain in just 12 hours.

The next piece of video is one of the scariest videos I've seen in a long time. You're seeing a highway here, this is in Nevada after very heavy

rain fell across this area. So these are not people just driving through the desert on side roads, this is a major highway that crosses this region.

The water came up very, very quickly. This is what is called flash flooding, my friend. And you can see how dangerous it is. The water just

creeping up.

I want to show you just one more little part of this video -- creeping up even up to the side of the window of the people trapped in this vehicle.

No one was hurt seriously, which is amazing, Manisha, more people die in their cars than in any other place. More people drown in their cars than

in any other place when it comes to the flooding in the U.S.

Back to you.

TANK: Oh my goodness, and they were on that -- goodness, they were on that highway and so unsuspecting. You would never imagine to see that much

water.

Mari, thank you very much for that, bringing us up to date on those floods situations in different parts of the world.

Now the most expensive video game ever made is out today. Development and marketing of Destiny cost $500 million. It's a futuristic shooter from the

company that created the popular Halo game and from the publisher of the Call of Duty franchise. So both companies are hoping this will be the

start of another long series.

So, is Destiny worth the half a billion dollar price tag? Martin Robinson is the features editor at Euro Gamer. And he joins me now live from

London.

Martin is going to tell us a little bit more about Destiny and what makes this game different.

MARTIN ROBINSON, EURO GAMER: And what makes it different, what makes it new I think the first thing really is it's the first game from developer

Bungie -- their first all new game in coming up to 13 years, which is quite some time. Obviously they made Halo, which was an extremely successful

series. A lot of people are really excited to see what they're going to do next.

Also, it's the first time there's been a massively multiplayer online World of Warcraft like game on consoles. So that's exciting to see how that's

going to pan out.

And most importantly, I think it's something new in an industry where is very iterative, where every year we get a new Call of Duty, we get a new

Mario, this is something which is really genuinely new. And that's something really, really exciting right now.

TANK: Martin, let's just talk about this multiplayer system. Adding these multiplayer elements to single-player games, just describe to us how that

works. And why that's important?

ROBINSON: It's a really important part of the game's makeup, it's what Bungie and Activision call a shared world shooter. So effectively you could

just be walking around going through the Wastelands or going through a scorched Earth and then during your single player campaign at any point

another player could just be dropped into your game and could fight alongside you. It just gives you a real sense of place, a real sense of

being somewhere more social, and sharing this world with other people, which is really important in terms of emotion when it comes to playing a

massive game like this.

TANK: Yeah, I mean, like 10 years ago we talked about virtual worlds, but in a way we're really getting -- we're really moving in that direction in a

more realistic fashion if that's the way games are going.

So, Destiny is said to have cost $500 million, half a billion dollars. You've had a go. You've looked at it. I mean, it looks incredible in

terms of -- it looks like a movie to me, it's amazing. Do you think it was money well spent, then?

ROBINSON: That $500 million, it's obviously an eye-watering amount of money, but it is for effectively a 10 year deal, which is going to be three

games coming out over that 10 years, multiple expansions, and quite feasibly this could stretch into a next generation of consoles.

I know we've just seen Playstation 4 and Xbox One come out a year ago, but feasibly the final Destiny game as part of this deal could be on the next

generation Xbox and Playstation 5.

So when you're thinking in those terms and thinking of the series which could quite feasibly be the next Call of Duty, be the next Grand Theft

Auto, that $500 million kind of seems like a bit of a bargain for Activision.

TANK: Yeah, well I was going to say, you know, these days the game isn't all that it's about, you've got merchandizing, you've got marketing, you've

got a whole world that goes with it. In any of that -- in those senses, is Destiny a gamechanger in any way?

ROBINSON: It will be. It's such a rich, deep universe. And I'm sure that Activision won't miss any tricks in terms of exploring it beyond the world

that the video game itself. Halo had such a broad universe that encompassed -- it encompassed comics. It was going to encompass a film at some point,

which sadly stalled, which Peter Jackson was behind. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point we're going to see a Destiny film of some kind

or a Destiny TV series.

So, yeah, it's going to go well beyond the video games themselves.

TANK: Yeah, well with a name like Destiny it certainly lends itself to it, doesn't it?

All right, we have to leave it there, but perhaps you're going to spend the rest of the week playing it. I don't know. Martin Robinson, thank you

very much for joining us.

ROBINSON: Thank you very much.

TANK: So let's stay with video games. Just ahead on News Stream.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, you can't measure a man by his height. No matter how small you are, have big dreams and live big.

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TANK: A marketing master class, how a little mistake turned into a big hit for EA sports.

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TANK: Embrace the fear, that's advice coming from the woman sitting atop a shopping empire with global reach. Isha Sesay sat down with HSN's Mindy

Grossman.

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MINDY GROSSMAN, CEO, HSN: The individuals that come to HSN, they have to have great product, great story and be a great storyteller.

This is primarily holiday what we're going to do to inspire.

ISHA SESAY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Already?

GROSSMAN: Oh, yeah.

SESAY: You may not equate shopping with storytelling, but that's just one of the reasons Mindy Grossman describes her company as a disruptive force.

The CEO of HSN Inc. overseas a multibillion dollar retail giant, which includes the American TV shopping network HSN.

And her own story is one filled with twists and turns.

So tell me, how did you get into this?

GROSSMAN: I had probably one of the most unconventional career paths that anyone could find. I actually graduated high school at 16.

SESAY: I saw that.

GROSSMAN: And entered college and was determined to be an attorney.

I woke up one morning and said I can't do this.

SESAY: Why?

GROSSMAN: I wasn't really recognizing things that were inside me that were really important.

SESAY: You trusted your gut, you listened to your inner voice.

GROSSMAN: I think that's a number one thing women have to do. That moment solidified my comfort level with risktaking.

SESAY: Years later, that comfort with risk would be tested. In 2008, she took the company public during a recession, but HSN actually increased

sales.

Grossman attributes much of that success to the workplace atmosphere she'd worked hard to cultivate.

GROSSMAN: There's no place like HSN.

I'll never forget when I first went to some fancy cocktail party or something in New York. Somebody went to me, "I shopped on HSN." I go why

are you whispering? It reinforced my belief of how to behave as a leader, as an individual. How do you motivate people versus bring them down.

SESAY: Grossman has made her mark on the network by pushing to make TV shopping entertaining.

Best idea you ever had?

GROSSMAN: Partnering with the movie studios to create extravaganzas on HSN, things that nobody ever thought about.

SESAY: The worst part of this job, what is it?

GROSSMAN: It's exhausting. It's like managing a Rubik's Cube.

SESAY: Which is why this CEO, wife and mother is now making some edits to her own story.

GROSSMAN: What women are guilty of, and myself included, are really trying to do everything for everybody. So we overextend ourselves. I wasn't

building myself up and ultimately I wasn't going to be great for other people if I wasn't taking care of myself. So what I started doing is

actually scheduling Mindy time.

SESAY: Actually put it in the diary.

GROSSMAN: Yes.

SESAY: Best piece of career advice to share with other women?

GROSSMAN: Believe in yourself.

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TANK: Well, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton look like close friends here. The two former U.S. Presidents are joining forces to launch a leadership

program. Their relationship has transformed from political adversaries to good buddies. Suzanne Malveaux has more.

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Two former presidents, number 42 and 43, appear to be best buddies these days.

GEORGE W. BUSH, 43RD PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: First of all, he's an awesome communicator.

MALVEAUX: Asked to explain how their friendship helped launch their scholars program, it was classic George W. Bush.

BUSH: Hi, mom.

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BUSH: Because we got a lot to offer.

MALVEAUX: It was a surprising light-hearted love fest between Presidents Bill Clinton and Bush that had the audience made up of mostly former

staffers rolling.

When asked what the two former presidents admired about each other most.

BILL CLINTON, 42ND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You always want to be underestimated by your adversaries.

BUSH: You, too, have got great empathy for people. Is that enough?

MALVEAUX: And both joked about how they spend their free time.

CLINTON: Taking selfies with people.

BUSH: At least they're still asking, you know.

CLINTON: Yeah, that's right.

MALVEAUX: Gone are pictures like these when the Clintons and Bushes offered cold shoulders. After all, it was Clinton who turned George H.W.

Bush into a one-termer.

But Clinton and Bush Senior later became close, publicly working together on tsunami relief and post-Hurricane Katrina as I witnessed firsthand.

GEORGE H.W. BUSH, 41ST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I believe that they ought not to be as upset, but I can understand why they are.

MALVEAUX: What they kept quiet was Clinton's growing closeness to the son, George W.

CLINTON: He used to call me twice a year in his second term just to talk.

MALVEAUX: Now Bush is offering insight into what makes a president.

GEORGE W. BUSH: We're just normal people who got caught up through ambition and drive and circumstance ended up being president. Man, if

these guys can do it, I can do it.

MALVEAUX: When Clinton responded, he was interrupted by a call.

CLINTON: There's only one -- only two people have this number, they're both related to me. I hope I'm not being told I'm about to become a

premature grandfather.

GEORGE W. BUSH: That's right.

MALVEAUX: On that, Bush gave this advice.

GEORGE W. BUSH: Be prepared to fall completely in love again.

MALVEAUX: Also noteworthy, in this audience was former Secretary of State and First Lady Hillary Clinton who laughed when someone suggested how about

another Clinton-Bush matchup in 2016, referring to her and former Florida Governor Jeb Bush going against each other.

But George Bush joked that the first one didn't turn out so well, referring to his father's loss to Bill Clinton in 1992.

Suzanne Malveaux, CNN, Washington.

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TANK: Wow, former presidents as you've never seen them before.

Now they say there's no such thing as bad publicity, and EA Sports has proved just that. A glitch in the new Madden NFL game shrunk linebacker

Christian Kirksy (ph) down to a tiny little figure. There it is. Fans loved it. It went viral, of course. And now the game's publisher is

joining in the fun with this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where he comes up short in frame, he also makes up for in heart. This is his story.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I may be small out there, but no matter how small I am I can get you to play. I can make a tackle.

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TANK: That's Chris Kirksy (ph) embracing his new stature and helping promote the game. Complete wiz is the glitch. It's been one PR touchdown

after another for EA sports all stemming from a fumble.

A happy accident for them.

Well, that's it from this News Stream, but the news does continue, of course, here at CNN. World Business Today is next. Stay right there.

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