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Abducted Teen To Reunite With Dad; Amber Alert Suspect Found; California Wildfire 75 Percent Contained; Federal Aid Denied For Arizona Fire; Singer Eydie Gorme Dead At 84; Issues Follow Obama On Vacation; Portrait Of James DiMaggio; New Jersey Workers Win Big

Aired August 11, 2013 - 14:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: And raging floods in Colorado. A closer look at these deadly floods.

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A father is reuniting with his 16-year-old daughter today a week after she was abducted in California. Hannah Anderson was found alive yesterday afternoon in the Idaho wilderness. Rescue crews were dropped in by helicopter to get to the spot where she was being held by captor James Dimaggio. He was shot and killed by FBI agents.

Paul Vercammen is live for us now in San Diego. Paul, Hannah's family must have been overjoyed when they heard the news after such a very difficult week.

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, Fredericka. I'm right in front of the grandparents' house. I saw them a short time ago off- camera. They're holding up as well as they possibly could. Somewhat amazing they can keep it together. Overjoyed is true; bittersweet of course because these grandparents lost their daughter and a grandson in this awful incident. But let's listen to what the grandmother had to say about the news that Hanna is indeed alive and well.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god. I'm so glad she's safe.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Me, too.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That she's okay. She's such a strong --

JENNIFER WILLIS, HANNAH ANDERSON'S AUNT: I can't even cry anymore, I'm so happy. I really am. I want to cry because I'm so happy, and I don't have any tears left. It's been such a hard week.

When I pinned those balloons at that fence at that first candlelight vigil and her balloon took off, I knew it meant she was coming home.

(END VIDEO CLIP) VERCAMMEN: That was a great-aunt and a grandmother. Also, Hannah's father issued a statement. He said, "I am nervous, excited, saddened for the loss of my wife and my son and worried about what my daughter has been through. It is now healing time." And so Anderson now in Idaho by now, we think, going to reunite with his daughter soon. As you may have heard, authorities said that she looked well. Back to you now , Frederika.

WHITFIELD: Of course, still unclear what took place in that week's time, whether Hannah willingly went with Mr. Dimaggio. We still don't have details like that?

VERCAMMEN: Well, hang on on that because detectives said yesterday and on camera they thought all along, this was a clear-cut case of kidnapping, that Hannah did not go along willingly. The family also really wants to emphasize they don't think for a moment she went willingly. Of course, she's with a man who's 40 years old. She's 16. He was a trusted family friend. He was an uncle. We've had reports from friends who said he professed out loud he had a crush on her. Enormous pressure on this girl, and it's possible as detectives articulated she went into some sort of survival mode, in a way going along with whatever he was saying, knowing that might be at this point the best way to preserve her life after the death of her mother and her brother, Fredericka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Paul Vercammen, thank you so much. I know you will also be bringing to us an interview, scheduled interview with the grandparents later on this afternoon, 4:00 Eastern time. We look forward to that.

In the meantime, it has been a long, painful week for the Anderson family, hoping and praying Hannah was okay. Investigators had been on edge as well, searching across several states for Hannah and the man accused of taking her.

Miguel Marquez has more on the emotional rescue.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fred, physically, Hannah is in good shape in a hospital in Boise. Among other things, she is getting care from an FBI victims' specialist. And though her physicality - or physically she may be fine, the trauma of this past week may take a lifetime to heal.

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MARQUEZ: Exclusive video of FBI hostage rescue team members and other federal agents heading out on a dramatic rescue mission. Amazingly, the teams in full tactical gear were delivered to waiting helicopters in a U-Haul van. A modest start to an enormously successful mission. WILLIAM GORE, SHERIFF, SAN DIEGO COUNTY, CA: Suspect James Lee Dimaggio was shot and killed. Hannah Anderson was located with Dimaggio. She appears well.

MARQUEZ: The FBI team moved in on foot to confront James Dimaggio.

The area where these two individuals were seen is about 30 miles from Cascade. The only way to access it is by helicopter.

The pair was spotted first from the air near their campsite. Teams on food then moved in.

MARY ROOK, SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE, FBI SLC DIVISION: Special agents with the FBI's hostage rescue team along with Salt Lake City division of the FBI observed Hannah and the suspect near Moorehead Lake at a camp site. Agents moved in to rescue Hannah. The suspect is deceased.

FBI leasing few details, saying the entire operation will now be reviewed by a team heading here from Washington, with Dimaggio considered armed and dangerous and Hannah a potential hostage, the stakes -- enormous.

ANDREA DEARDEN, VALLEY COUNTY, IDAHO SHERIFF'S OFFICE: This is a homicide suspect that was in a very rugged area. We had a 16-year-old girl. We have to look at the tactical issues. It is certainly a complex search.

MARQUEZ: A complex and successful operation, ending a week of fear and grief.

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MARQUEZ: And we're getting a better idea of how this operation went down, after spotting the two near Moorehead Lake. The FBI moved in by helicopter, dropping teams a two-hour walk away from that camp. They got up there, surrounded it, waited until Hannah and Dimaggio had separated. That's when they confronted Dimaggio and dispatched him. Fred?

WHITFIELD: Miguel Marquez, thanks so much for that update. Harrowing details there.

Meantime, there is a new Amber Alert on the East Coast for a missing child today. This time, this Amber Alert beginning in Johnston, Rhode Island, but now really going national. Police are looking for suspect Malcolm Crowell. He is accused of killing two people and then taking off with a two-year-old boy.

Nick Valencia joining me now with more on this, this nationwide search involve an awful lot of jurisdictions.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is. It's not just local, not just in Rhode Island. This could be all of the Northeast. So, take a good look at this man. Police say he is the suspect, not only in a double homicide, but also this Amber Alert they just issued.

This is 22-year-old Malcolm Cromwell (sic). He's 5'6, 145 pounds. He has tattoos on his arm and chest. Please take a good look at him because police in Rhode Island say this could be all of the Northeast -excuse me, Crowell, Malcolm Crowell. So, Massachusetts. It could be surrounding states that this suspect is now in. Neighbors say that he was in dark sedan and took off with this two-year-old boy. Now Fred, we don't know the relationship between the victims, those two double homicide victims and this two-year-old boy he allegedly took. What we do know about the suspect has a past criminal history. Police are holding very their cards close to the chest. They didn't want to reveal too many details, but we know that they're looking for him, and he is considered armed and dangerous.

WHITFIELD: And are they revealing any details about the sequence of events, what this alleged double homicide is all about?

We know it started 5:30 Sunday morning, but that's all we know. He took off this Amber Alert around 8:00 a.m. local time, East Coast time. He's driving a dark car. Police say if you have any other details about him, we are going to give you some numbers you can call. Not only state police but also Johnston Police Department. That's 401-231-8100. Locally, state police in Rhode Island, that's 401-462- 6237. This is a developing situation, very fluid situation, Fred. So, we'll get all more details as we have them.

WHITFIELD: So, the search for the suspect and of course the two-year- old. All right, thanks so much, Nick Valencia. Keep us posted on that.

VALENCIA: You bet.

WHITFIELD: All right. Meantime, now some good news on the wildfire front. The silver fire burning through the mountains east of Los Angeles is now 75 percent contained. It has blackened about 30 square miles. Some people still can't return to their homes, however. The fire is blamed for injuries to 10 firefighters and one homeowner. Riverside County has been declared a disaster area.

Here is the image of that flooding that hit (INAUDIBLE) Springs, Colorado. Take a look at that: cars washed away by 30 miles an hour floodwaters, up to 10 feet deep in some places. One man described it as a raging river of black mud. And with the rain ending, searchers are still looking for three missing people. The flooding killed one person, and now the massive cleanup begins.

So, what can we expects from the weather in the days ahead? Let's bring in meteorologist Jennifer Delgado in the CNN Weather Center. We're talking about really weather patterns of extremes.

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WHITFIELD: OK, meantime if you look up, maybe in certain parts, you will see a meteor shower. Tell me about all that.

JENNIFER DELGADO, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes, we are talking about the Persied meteor shower. Now, these are images from last year. We're talking the peak viewing is going to come tonight as well as tomorrow. You are looking at these images up there, and what you're seeing are basically the meteors and what you're looking at is the debris. And once that starts to hit the atmosphere, that's when you start to see it trailing and burning up. And some of these when they hit the earth, they move at 132 miles per hour. Should say not earth, earth's atmosphere. That would be a whole different other problem there. But yes, they do move pretty quickly.

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WHITFIELD: Ok, very good. All right, fascinating nonetheless, especially if you have a telescope. You say you can see some with the naked eye?

DELGADO: You can. And the best areas for that is actually going to be in the Northeast as well as the West Coast. Areas including the South, they have a lot of clouds including the rain, so they're going to miss out this year. It always peaks in August, so maybe better luck next year.

WHITFIELD: Oh, neat! So we'll have to make a little note on the calendar for that.

OK, good. Thanks, Jennifer, appreciate it.

That heavy rain and flooding, as we told you, has been a deadly equation. Now we're talking about the same situation, but this time overseas in Afghanistan. Floodwaters destroyed more than 100 homes in the capital of Kabul. More than half the people died when their cars were washed away in flashfloods. It rained heavily about two hours straight Friday, triggering the floods. It has been the first real rain there in months. And then this. It becomes deadly. Twenty-one dead.

All right, most of the U.S. embassies in the Middle East closed after that terrorist threat are now back open. The U.S. had shut down diplomatic mission is in the Middle East, Africa and Asia, but the embassy in Yemen will remain closed over fears of a possible al Qaeda attack. And the embassy in Lahore, Pakistan will remain shut because of a separate threat there.

On to Canada now and a funeral for two small boys. Hundreds turned out to remember four-year-old Noah Barth and his six-year-old brother, Connor. They were killed Monday by a python that escaped from its cage in the apartment where the boys slept. Friends say the boys loved video games and playing outdoors. Inseperable in life, they were buried together in a single casket.

Hannah Anderson, now out of a kidnapper's grasp. But her emotional and mental anguish is nowhere near over. Coming up, we'll hear about the symptoms she may be experiencing now and what treatments are available to help her recover.

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JENNIFER WILLIS, HANNAH'S GREAT AUNT: I really pray for her recovery. She's going to have a really, really tough road ahead of her. It's going to be hard. I don't know what she saw. I'm afraid to know what she saw, what she experienced, but she's tough like all of us or she wouldn't have been found.

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WHITFIELD: Incredible. Hannah Anderson's family relieved that she has been rescued from her alleged kidnapper, James Dimaggio. She has been recuperating at a hospital, although authorities say she did not appear to have significant physical injuries. Her father told CNN in a text this, saying quote, "I am nervous, excited and saddened for my wife and son, and worried what my daughter has been through. It's now healing time. Keep us in your prayers." End quote.

So, it is not always the physical injuries that are the problem. The mental scars can stay with victims for years. Psychologist Erik Fisher joining me now. Good to see you, Eric. This is incredible. I mean, you hear from the father and the family members. This is bittersweet. Yes, Hannah Anderson found alive. But still unclear at what stage she has learned about her mother's death and her eight- year-old brother's death. So, there will be so many phases of healing and recuperation here. But what is likely to be the first one? She's being reunited with her dad, likely today.

ERIK FISHER, PSYCHOLOGIST: There's still probably a situation where she's in shock trying to process this whole thing. Our brain can only handle so much information at one time. A lot of times people disassociate when they go through those experiences. So, this whole thing is probably feeling surreal and will take some time to sink in.

The key is they had crisis counselors with her yesterday. I'm assuming and hoping the family will get her in therapy and keep her in therapy for a while. The other concern I have is for her father because he's the person who brought this man into the family, a friend for 16 years.

WHITFIELD: Right. There has to be some guilt that's going to be associated with all of this.

FISHER: Well, survivor's guilt is a huge issue, and survivor's guilt on the part of not only Hannah but definitely her dad. He will need counseling, too. The tendency, though, as a parent is to want to be strong and take care of everything. Now, he has to provide for them, for her, and they will have family support. But to make sure he is able to be a model for her in facing what he's going through and potentially kind of even they're going through this together. It's not something they're each doing alone.

WHITFIELD: You talk about the survivor's guilt the father might have. And then she has to break from that survivor's mode that she may have been in the middle of for a week now. We heard authorities say it's likely she took on this kind of survival kind of attitude of taking it one step at a time, and then making sure that she still has a rather friendly relationship with her captor.

FISHER: Right.

WHITFIELD: In order to survive.

FISHER: Oh, yes. That's the difficult thing. When you're trapped in a situation that you don't see a way out of -- it was good for her to play the role she played. We'll find out more how exactly how that played out because it does keep (INAUDIBLE) survive and it does help them survive longer. And as long as they can survive, there's things that come up. And that's the situation that happened here. As long as she survived, it allowed other people to do what they could do to help take care of her.

But her guilt will be significant, too, because he was the one that sought after her that then resulted in the death of her mother and sister - or brother.

WHITFIELD: There's so many things that could potentially happen in terms of how she recovers from this, what kind of treatment she might need professionally or maybe even just the support from her family. But give us an idea of the emotions she might be feeling. I mean, there may be a host of things, relief, anger, even withdrawal, all of these things, right?

FISHER: Yes. Definitely. Definitely. And this whole process is really an individual process. It depends on the individual, it depends on their temperament, it depends sometimes on their neurochemistry and how their neurochemistry responds to situations. Women are more likely to experience PTSD and especially more complex PTSD when they have been through previous trauma. So --

WHITFIELD: How would it display itself in this case?

FISHER: Nightmares - well, there's immediate onset PTSD and delayed on-set. Immediate onset PTSD, she might have nightmares and having recurring flashbacks of the events and situations, emotional numbness as well as symptoms of depression and anxiety. And those take a while to work through.

WHITFIELD: We're talking months?

FISHER: We're talking probably years. Because it gets reprocessed. Traumas get reprocessed at different developmental ages and when different life events occur. So, that's where she might come through this okay but then have another relatively minor trauma later on that brings back this whole trauma with a fury sometimes years later in life.

WHITFIELD: Wow. Well, we of course, are wishing her the best. It's been an extraordinary week for her. Only she knows exactly what she's been through. It hasn't been really conveyed, so we can all only imagine the trauma she's been through. Erik Fisher, good to see you. Thanks for coming in.

FISHER: Thanks for having me.

WHITFIELD: Appreciate it.

All right, we're going to talk some baseball coming up. Yankee third baseman Alex Rodriguez is expected to return to the game today, but the team is docking his pay. We'll tell you why in The Bleacher Report, next.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Now to a major victory for a one-handed mixed martial arts fighter who continues to defy all odds. Joe Carter has his story and more in This Bleacher Report. Joe?

JOE CARTER, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, what's up, Fred? Yes, we're talking about Nick Newell. Now, he was born without his left hand and left forearm. It's a disability on paper that you would think would give him a tremendous disadvantage as a mixed martial arts fighter.

But clearly that is not the case. Saturday night, Nick continued to astound by winning his 10th consecutive fight. He said after the win he knows what it's like to be at the bottom in life, and now that he's on top, he said he's not letting any take it away from him. Now, in 10 professional fights he's finished all by knockout or submission, all but one, that is.

Now, according to an ESPN report, the Yankees' front office plan to dock Alex Rodriguez one day's pay for seeking a second opinion on his quad injury. That was a few weeks back, if you remember. Now, the loss of one day pay means A-Rod is going to have to cough up more than $150,000. Now that one day figure is subtracted from $128 million in total salary for A-Rod this season. Now of course, he's currently appealing his 211- game suspension and he is expected in the lineup today against the Tigers.

And finally, the New York Giants and the Pittsburgh Steelers have won four of the last eight Super Bowls and last night, these two teams faced off in their first preseason game of the year. Three years ago, Victor Cruz, he showed up at the Giants' training camp, barely made the squad. This summer signed a five-year $43 million contract. Clearly, the Giants believe he will do much more of that in the season to come.

And by the way, Fred, the NFL season officially starts in 28 days. That's your Bleacher Report update. Back to you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks so much. Joe, appreciate it. Hey, for the latest on sports, go to bleacherreport.com.

The president is on vacation, but he's still feeling the heat over the government's secret surveillance program. Dan Lothian is live on Martha's vineyard in Massachusetts. Dan.

DAN LOTHIAN, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hello. The president indeed on the first full day of his nine-day vacation here on Martha's Vineyard. But as he pointed out, the debate over the NSA leaks and also Edward Snowden continues. I'll have more on that story after this break.

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back to the NEWSROOM. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. A look at the top stories crossing the CNN news desk right now. Number one, a 16-year-old girl who was abducted nearly a week ago is expected to reunite with her family today. Hannah Anderson was found alive yesterday in Idaho after an intense search. Casey Wian has more from California.

CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Fredericka, family members here in the San Diego area have been spending most of the past day preparing for the ultimate reunion between Hannah Anderson and her father, who is en route to Idaho. And in doing that, it has exposed some of the painful emotions that this family had go through the past week. In the process of cleaning out the apartment where Hannah lived with her mother and her younger brother, those two now deceased, Hannah's grandmother came across one of young eight-year-old Ethan's favorite toys. It was a doll, Spongebob Squarepants. Here's what she has to say about that.

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SARA BRITT, HANNA ANDERSON'S GRANDMOTHER: We went to my daughter's apartment and had to start going through some things. This is Ethan's. I opened the door and he sleeps with this every night. So I told my husband move over because he's moving in.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As to when Hannah will return here to the San Diego area, family members believe it may be two or three days. She has been hospitalized overnight for observation although she is reported to be in very good physical condition. Also, her father is in the company of law enforcement and there are going to be a lot of questions that remain to be answered as this investigation unfold. We'll see how soon it will be before Hannah comes back home -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, this breaking story now on that nationwide amber alert concerning a suspect of a double murder and a missing 2- year-old, Nick Valencia, back in the NEWSROOM with us now with an update on this situation -- Nick. VALENCIA: Yes. I just spoke to the local law enforcement source in Long Island and they tell me that the suspect, Malcolm Crowell, 22 years old is now in custody. Take a good look at this man. He was suspected in a double homicide earlier this morning locally in Johnson, Rhode Island. Police now tell me that the Fall River Massachusetts Police Department arrested him about an hour ago.

Here's a real big twist in this. The 2-year-old he allegedly kidnapped has not been found. The suspect has been located is in custody, but as we mentioned, a local police source in Rhode Island telling me that the 2-year-old has not been found, Fred. So this story is far from over.

WHITFIELD: Do we know anything about the apprehension of this suspect as it relates to where this alleged double murder took place or where the alleged kidnap happened?

VALENCIA: Yes. That's a great question. They were very, very mum on the details, but they did tell me that this happened. It's again a fluid situation. The details are not abundant right now. All we know is that there are some sort of relationship between Crowell and his victims. We don't know the exact relationship. You know, what type of relationship they had.

But this all started about 5:30 this morning when neighbors heard -- you know, they called police, police came to the scene, an amber alert was issued a couple hours later and now this local law enforcement source telling me he is in custody, but the child has still not found.

WHITFIELD: So now that search for this 2-year-old has to intensify and hopefully authorities can give us some kind of information a little bit later so people who to look out for as it pertains to this 2-year-old. All right, thanks so much, Nick. Keep us posted.

All right, back to today's other top stories. Finally a break on the California wildfire front, the silver fire burning through the mountains east of Los Angeles is now 75 percent contained. It has blackened about 30 square miles. Some people still can't return to their homes, however. But the fire is blamed for injuries to 10 firefighters and one homeowner. Riverside County has been declared a disaster area.

Arizona's governor and two senators are upset with the Obama administration after the federal government denied aid for that fire that killed 19 elite firefighters in that state back in June. FEMA says the state's request for assistance was denied because of insurance rules. FEMA said not enough uninsured private people were victims to warrant a payout.

Singer Eydie Gorme has died. She had a huge hit on "Blame It on the Bosonova" back in 1963, but she performed a long list of pop tunes. Gorme was a fixture in nightclubs and on television in the '60s and '70s as a solo and duet with her husband, Steve Lawrence. He called her one of the greatest pop singers of all time. Eydie Gorme was 84.

President Obama on vacation, but the issues dogging him have followed him to his retreat on Martha's Vineyard, including the NSA surveillance program. Here's what he said about NSA leaker Ed Snowden before Obama left for his vacation.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I don't think Mr. Snowden was patriot. Mr. Snowden has been charged with three felonies. If he believes what he did was right then like every American citizen, he can come here, appear before the court with a lawyer and make his case.

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WHITFIELD: White House correspondent Dan Lothian joining us live now from Martha's Vineyard where the president is vacationing. So the president says Snowden is no patriot. We heard that in that press conference on Friday and that he should come back to the U.S. and stand trial. Meantime, Snowden's father defended his son today as he's about to embark on a trip to Russia to see him. So what is the back and forth now from the father and from the White House?

DAN LOTHIAN, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right. You know, so much on this story developing every day. The White House, I just heard from a White House official who told me there would be no comment from the White House officially on these latest remarks made by Edward Snowden's father in that interview with ABC this morning.

The White House position has been all along that Edward Snowden needs to be returned to the United States to face those charges and as the president pointed out in that news conference, to make his case. But Edward Snowden's father was in fact defending, strongly defending his son today in that interview saying his son has always spoken the truth. He believes his son has sacrificed more than President Obama and some other Washington officials.

He said that he wants his son to return here to the United States, but he also is suspicious whether or not his son could get a fair trial here given all of the comments that have been made by U.S. officials. Take a listen to a little bit more of what his father had to say this morning.

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LOU SNOWDEN, EDWARD SNOWDEN'S FATHER: In terms of him character rising my son as a patriot or others like Peter King who characterizes him as a traitor. What I would say is that my son has spoken the truth. He had sacrificed more than either the president of the United States or Peter King has ever in their political careers or their American lives. So how they choose to characterize him really --

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LOTHIAN: Now Lou Snowden did make a little bit of news. He said that he, along with the family's attorney, have obtained visas and would be traveling to Russia at some point soon to meet with Edward Snowden, who obviously is there in Russia on this short term asylum request that was granted by Russian officials so his father, expecting to go to Russia in the near future to meet with his son -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: All right, Dan Lothian, thanks so much for keeping us posted on Martha's Vineyard.

He was a trusted family friend and showed no signs of mental instability. What caused suspected killer and kidnapper, James DiMaggio, to snap? We'll talk to a FBI profiler and special agent next.

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WHITFIELD: All right, now, back to the story that rescued California teen in Idaho, the manhunt for suspected kidnapper and killer James DiMaggio ended after he was killed by FBI agents yesterday. What is frightening about this case is that DiMaggio was a friend, who for years was entrusted by this family only to end up betraying them.

Mary Ellen O'Toole is a former senior FBI profiler and she joins me now from Washington. Good to see you, Ms. O'Toole. So you've spent years studying criminals. How does anyone know or suspect that something could go awry from a very long friendship, which was the case of this family?

MARY ELLEN O'TOOLE, FORMER SENIOR FBI PROFILER: It was. And when we go back and look at other high profile cases that have recently been in the news, we've seen Ariel Castro, Jerry Sandusky and now this individual, James DiMaggio, all of whom were able to carry out their crimes and really fly under the radar screen for a very long time. When you see people able to do that, it's because they put out there that life-style that appears to be very normal, and when we do see the red flag, at least in my experience, when people see things that are odd or unusual or they question, they'll have a ways to rationalize it, normalize it or explain it way.

They don't just look at somebody and say, this person could end up being a kidnapper in 20 years. What we try to do with teaching the public is to be aware of people that have access to your children and if you see something, even if it's small, don't just let it go by. Don't just ignore it. Really have to take hard look at that behavior.

WHITFIELD: As it pertains to, in this case, the alleged kidnapper, alleged killer, isn't it a situation where this person so end endears themselves to a family and really looking forward to an opportunity in which they really do reveal themselves?

O'TOOLE: It could have been he was looking for an opportunity or it could be, again, this is a lifetime, really a lifetime friend of the family. It could have been, as he was getting older, different stressors and different factors were weighing on him and the family didn't recognize the changes in him and the more he was becoming focused on Hannah. My sense is, if the family had seen that and hat put all of those behaviors together, they certainly would have reacted.

WHITFIELD: Some little bits of information is being learned about DiMaggio that his past may have really been rather tough, particularly because his father allegedly committed suicide. How much of a role, if any, would something like that have?

O'TOOLE: It could have played a big role. We don't know yet. When you're assessing someone's behavior because it's potentially very dangerous, you looke at what we call the triggers. Those are those variables in a person's life that make it more likely that they are going to act out in a dangerous fashion. Then you look for those protectors. Those are variables in the person's life that may prevent them actually from acting out dangerously.

What we saw with DiMaggio, you saw the double homicide, he's losing his home, he sets his house on fire, he's now on a path of no return. Those are huge, huge triggers. Then you factor in his father seemed to have the same fact pattern in his life, with the history anniversary date of his suicide yesterday, that changed the whole complexion of that fact pattern.

WHITFIELD: Mary Ellen O'Toole, thank you so much. Appreciate your insight.

O'TOOLE: You're welcome.

WHITFIELD: All right, here's a question for you, for those who like to fantasize about big money. What would you do with tens of millions of dollars? That's the wonderful dilemma facing 16 New Jersey co- workers. Meet some of the winners of that huge Powerball jackpot next.

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WHITFIELD: Wow. Talk about luck. A 12-year-old Boy Scout found a 5.16-point carat diamond while gem mining at Crater of Diamond State Park in Arkansas. Michael Detlaf had only been searching for less than 10 minutes when he came across this honey ground diamond. No word yet on how much it might be worth, but it the 27th largest diamond ever found at that park. Michael gets to keep the pair-shaped rock thanks to the park's finder's keeper's policy, lucky indeed.

Now to those 16 co-workers in New Jersey who found luck in the Powerball lottery. Each of them will soon get a share of that whopping $448 million! CNN's Deborah Feyerick joining us live from New York. So Deb, what can you tell us about these new millionaires besides the fact they are really happy.

DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Not only are they really happy, Fredricka, but they're also really, really, really lucky. The second thing we know about them, unlike you and I, the plans that they are making are actually real plans now that they have that money, not just a dream. The Ocean 16 as they're now known, they work together at the Ocean County Vehicle Maintenance Facility in Toms River, New Jersey.

Whenever the jackpot reaches crazy money like the $448 million, the colleagues apparently each kick in 6 bucks to buy tickets at the nearby Acne Market. After the drawing Wednesday night, it seems that the co-workers all showed up to work Thursday morning. Winner Susan Nichel described her feelings saying she is very thankful and up in the clouds. She spoke to ABC News.

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SUSAN NICHEL, POWERBALL WINNER: My co-worker came out and shook me and said we did win. I want my husband to retire. I'm not, but I want my husband to. He's worked a long time.

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FEYERICK: I just love when people win money and give it to people who they love. Nichel and her family were among those who hit hard by Superstorm Sandy last October, 7 feet of water just sweeping through their home, destroying many of their belongings. So the money could not have come at a better time. There were three winners, each ticket worth more than $149 million, as we mentioned.

Paul White in the Minneapolis area, he says he like Nichels, he is going to keep on working and that the money more than anything mean that he no longer has to worry. He no longer has financial worries. As a single purchaser, White gets to keep the $149 million, sort of. There's always a catch, right? The 149, if you take it in a lump sum option, that brings it down to $86 million after all the taxes, it winds up closer to $58 million.

WHITFIELD: Still all right!

FEYERICK: Not bad. I would take that in a heartbeat. For the Ocean 16, I'll do the math for you. They'll each walk away with about $3.5 million. So it's life changing and certainly if they invest it well, save the brunt of it, they will be able to live very, very comfortably for many years to come.

WHITFIELD: Very nice. Well, I think how apropos of the last name, Nichel, now Nichels has a whole lot of dollars. All right, Deborah Feyerick, thanks so much. Appreciate that, very fun.

All right, the family, meantime, of that kidnapping victim, Hannah Anderson, they are overjoyed and feel like they're very lucky now that she's safe. We'll hear from her grandmother and father after the break.

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WHITFIELD: It's an emotional day for the family of a 16-year-old girl, who was rescued after being abducted by family friend. Hannah Anderson was found alive yesterday and her family was overjoyed, but also grieving the loss of her mother and younger brother, Ethan, both found dead last week.

Paul Vercammen is live for us now in San Diego. So Paul, what more are we hearing about the family and the reunion?

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we hope that this is impending and that would be, of course, in Idaho, as Hannah's father is headed in that direction. This is where her maternal grandparents live. One thing that they have suggested and we've heard this all week long in a way from people who talked about what the result could be. There will not be a trial. DiMaggio will not testify. Hannah will not testify. There won't be some sort of sensational first arraignment, first appearance in court. Let's see what her grandma had to say about that.

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BRITT: The way it ended up for both Hannah and Jim, it's fitting. No one wants to go through years of jury trials and putting Hannah through any of that. So, you know, I wouldn't want to see anyone dead, but it happened, and we're excited to have our daughter -- granddaughter home.

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VERCAMMEN: Clearly, she was alluding to the killing of the suspect, DiMaggio, in the Idaho Mountains. Let's hear what Mr. Anderson had to say in a statement. He said, I am nervous, excited, saddened for my wife and my son and worried that what my daughter has been through, it is now healing time.

Also, Fredricka, don't forget that in San Diego all week long, a war room was set up in the sheriff's office. We understand on Saturday, there were 30 detectives, agents up there, an all-star team, if you will, of crime solvers.

When they got this word, we understand they were hugging and even veteran, hardened, hardened agent were crying, especially those who had children, as one detective put it to me off-camera, we bled for this family this week, emotional there as well.

WHITFIELD: Right. Paul Vercammen, incredible search and incredible ending. We appreciate your reporting. Thank you. We'll be right back with much more in the NEWSROOM.

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WHITFIELD: Coming up at 4:00 Eastern Time, more on the rescue kidnapping victim, Hannah Anderson. We'll have all the details on that heart stopping FBI operation that freed her and killed her captor.

Plus the breaking news of another suspected kidnapping in Rhode Island, the search turned up the suspect, but the 2-year-old is still missing.

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