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James "Whitey" Bulger Standing Trial; Police Say Suspect Claims He's Killed Dozens; Hillary Clinton Back in Spotlight; Pelosi Goes Off Over Abortion; Your Privacy Rights Online; Christie Talks Political Future in Slow Jam.

Aired June 13, 2013 - 13:30   ET

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DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Shea, now an author and construction worker, spent 12 years in prison rather than rat out Bulger.

JOHN SHEA, CONSTRUCTION WORKER & AUTHOR: I idolized Whitey. I idolized him. And they wanted Whitey through me when I got indicted. I wouldn't give him up. They could have threatened me with the electric chair and I wouldn't give him up -- ever.

FEYERICK: In late 1994, Bulger got one of his final tips from his FBI pal that he was about to be arrested and indicted. He planned ahead and took off ultimately with girlfriend, Katherine Grigg (ph). After a 16-year manhunt, the FBI finally found the couple living in Santa Monica with dozens of guns and more than $800,000 in cash stuffed in the walls of his apartment.

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Wow.

Debra Feyerick is joining us from Boston.

Do we think he will take the stand?

FEYERICK: Well, Suzanne, his lawyer has suggested there is a possibility he will take the stand.

And what is so interesting is you see him looking at surveillance videos of himself from 30 years ago, and he is meeting with known gangsters, and some of them that will testify against him at this trial. This is a man that spent many years living and laying low, and now he's completely exposed in that courtroom. He doesn't look behind him, barely acknowledges the witnesses. The only time I saw him turn his head was when prosecutors introduced certain firearms, weapons they say are connected to him, specifically it was a MAG 10 pistol with a silencer, a very large firearm -- Suzanne?

MALVEAUX: Deborah Feyerick, following that trial.

Thank you very much, Deborah. A suspect in a double murder back in 2006 will now make a startling revelation. Authorities say Jose Martinez claims that he has killed dozens of people. Police in Marion County, Florida, say that he might be responsible for 30 murders across the United States.

Alina Machado Cho is here with more.

First, tell us about this double murder they won in court.

ALINA MACHADO CNN CORRESPONDENT: That case happened in Marion County, Florida, back in 2006, more than six years ago. Earlier, this year, authorities in Florida received the results of DNA tests conducted on a cigarette butt that was found at the crime scene, and it was through those results that they found out about Jose Martinez. They also discovered he was wanted in Alabama for an unrelated homicide.

Now, Martinez was arrested in Arizona and extradited to Alabama where Florida detectives caught up with him. They say he confessed to the 2006 murders of Havilla Wetta (ph) and Gustavo Revas (ph), offering details they believe only the killer would have known -- Suzanne?

MALVEAUX: Police are saying now he says he is responsible for the murders of 30 people. How did that happen?

MACHADO: The Marion County sheriff's office says, so far, they have been able to confirm at least 11 murder victims that Martinez allegedly confessed to killing. They are now working with other law enforcement agencies around the country to try to identify all potential victims. They say Martinez told them he was just 16 years old when he committed his first killing.

MALVEAUX: Unbelievable. That is quite a story there. Just made that confession.

MACHADO: That's what it seems like. Sounds like he wanted to come clean. At least that's what the Florida detective that interviewed him in Alabama told us.

MALVEAUX: A serial killer.

MACHADO: That's what it sounds like.

MALVEAUX: Alina, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

Watch as Hillary Clinton, Chelsea, Bill Clinton -- coming up, how the former secretary of state is bursting back in the political arena with her family in tow. There she is.

And house minority leader, Nancy Pelosi, well, she has gone off on a conservative reporter over the topics -- one of them being abortion. You can hear what she said next.

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I will be focused on applying lessons learned from around the world and building new partnerships across our entire portfolio, but particularly in three broad areas that have been close to my heart my entire adult life -- early childhood development, opportunities for women and girls, and economic development.

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MALVEAUX: Hillary Clinton back in the political spotlight, backed up by her family, of course. And the former secretary of state was speaking there at the Clinton Global Initiative meeting being held in Chicago. It was the first public policy speech since leaving the State Department and she was explaining her now role in the foundation started by her husband.

Our Erin McPike is joining us live from Chicago.

Erin, first, she starts tweeting in the last week or so and jumps into that. Back in the spotlight. Everybody just wants to know, 2016, is she going to go for it?

ERIN MCPIKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Of course she has not of made any announcements here yet about 2016. And I don't think we'll be hearing a presidential announcement tomorrow.

She did, however, say she has an announcement tomorrow about a new area of focus that she will be taking on within the Clinton Foundation. And she talked there, you just heard, about economic development. What we're seeing is this is going to be a very different role from what she just did for the last few years at the State Department. It is going to be much more domestically and economically focused. And if that's any hint, well, there you go -- Suzanne?

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MALVEAUX: I will take that as a hint.

What about the rest of the family? Obviously, the former president and Chelsea getting in the mix here. You see all three involved now.

MCPIKE: Exactly. Chelsea Clinton will be taking on a bigger role. And we will see her later this afternoon and again tomorrow. Bill Clinton said earlier today that Chelsea has been spending a lot her time traveling for CGI, so this is becoming a much bigger family affair. And the big draw here in these two days is Hillary Clinton and her coming-out party as a private citizen and all the philanthropic work she will be doing with the initiative.

MALVEAUX: All right. Good to see you as always. Thank you.

And heated moments today. This was on the Hill, Capitol Hill, of course. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi getting visibly angry when asked about her opposition to a Republican proposal on abortion. It would ban all abortions after 20 weeks. Athena Jones is live from D.C.

What happened here?

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Suzanne. It certainly was very testy. And the minority leader was angered because a reporter from a conservative-leaning publication, "The Weekly Standard," was pressing her repeatedly about her opposition to this bill, this bill that would ban abortions after 20 weeks. The reporter wanted to know, what's the moral difference between what this bill is aiming to do and what that abortion doctor, that late-term abortion doctor, Kermit Gosnell, out of Philadelphia, was convicted of doing. He was convicted of murdering babies in late-term abortions, and so that reporter was repeatedly pressing her.

And this is what Pelosi had to say.

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REP. NANCY PELOSI, (D-CA), HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: This is not the issue. They are saying that there is no abortion, making it a federal law there can be no abortion in our country. You are taking the extreme case. You're taking the extreme case? And what I am saying to you is what happened in Philadelphia was reprehensible.

I do not think you use that -- I'm not going to have this conversation with you because you obviously have an agenda. You're not interested in having an answer. But I have responded to the extent I will respond. Because I'm going to tell you something, as a mother of five children -- my oldest child is six years old, the day I brought my fifth child home from the hospital -- as a practicing and respectful Catholic, this is sacred ground to me when we talk about this. I don't think it should have anything to do with politics. And that's where you are taking it, and I am not going there.

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JONES: So there you heard from the minority leader, Pelosi. Very angry by this back and forth with this reporter who she said had an agenda.

I should tell you, at the beginning of the press conference, she talked about this bill that would ban abortions after 20 weeks, that just moved out of the House Judiciary Committee. She said that Republicans who support this bill are focused on issues that the Americans aren't focused on. They should be focused on jobs instead. So this is still another example though of the passion that this abortion issue ignites.

MALVEAUX: Where does the bill stand now?

JONES: It was able to pass the House Judiciary Committee by a vote of 20-12, and was supported by the all-male Republican group panel on the committee.

But even if this bill gets to the House floor and passes the House, it faces very tough chances in the Democratic-controlled Senate, not to mention what would happen if it ever got to the president's desk. This is not something the president would be expected to sign -- Suzanne?

MALVEAUX: Athena Jones, thank you. Very passionate issue, of course.

The NSA keeping track of phone calls, but did you know that Internet sites like Facebook track a whole lot more? We will break that down for you up next.

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MALVEAUX: This was Carnival "Triumph" being towed back to shore in February this year. You may remember the passenger stories of this nightmare cruise in the Gulf of Mexico. An engine room fired left thousands stranded on the ship without electricity or working toilets and now the same ship scheduled to set sail again today. The four- night cruise to Mexico and the Western Caribbean is sold out. A company statement says, "The ship has undergone $115 million in repairs and upgrades."

All of this talk about government surveillance probably has you wondering, how much does the government actually know about you? What about the private companies allegedly involved in the data mining as well? Most say that they don't provide the government with direct access to servers. But we do know, right, they are tracking at least some of our web activity.

Alison Kosik at the New York Stock Exchange.

Alison, do we know how extensive this is? What do they know?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: We wanted to find out how extensive this is. We reached out to a few of the big tech companies about what they do with the information that we all willingly and knowingly pass around so freely on their websites.

Facebook wound up being the most forthcoming. Facebook says they don't collect any web browsing history. They say the only exception is if you are on a computer and visit a site that's part of Facebook's exchange platform. Let's say Target is a partner and you visit its website on the same browser, you may see a Target ad pop up on the news feed. Facebook says the primary way they store your data is when you take explicit action, say, you like Macy's or comment on the page of your favorite TV show. Even when that info is given to a third party, Facebook says they don't know your name, that you're just a number in a bigger demographic.

So whether this is an invasion of privacy or a good way to personalize the user experience, it really depends on who you ask.

If you're a woman and a big shopper, wouldn't you rather see ads for Ann Taylor instead of a hardware store? By tracking your data, these companies better able -- are better able to bring you the things that you are interested in. Of course, there is the flip side of that because, Suzanne, a lot of people don't like the feeling there is big brother out there that knows so much about you.

MALVEAUX: Sure. I guess you can go for the hardware and the Ann Taylor shoes as well. Is there a way -- if you don't want them to track all of your data, can you opt out of this at all?

KOSIK: Facebook tells us there is no real way to opt out. What you can do is do less on Facebook, meaning don't like or don't comment on any pages. But that kind of defeats the purpose of being on Facebook because Facebook is a social media site, after all, and sort of part of the social aspect to personalize things for you.

We also reached out to Google and to Yahoo! about how they use our data. Yahoo! declined to answer any questions, except for denying it has any involvement with PRISM. Google said it was unable to share more information at this time.

MALVEAUX: Alison, thanks. I have a feeling they know everything.

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Just my suspicion.

KOSIK: They do.

MALVEAUX: All right, Alison, thank you.

Now this. Almost 400,000 babies are born to girls between 15 and 19 years old in the U.S. every year, and many of the teen moms don't graduate from high school. But one school is trying to change that. We're going to explain how, up next.

But first, Dr. Sanjay Gupta with a sneak peek in this week's "Next List." (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: This week on the "Next List" we talk to Graham Hill, a designer that says living with less can lead to happier, more compelling lives.

GRAHAM HILL, DESIGNER: This main space transforms into five different rooms.

GUPTA: He is building micro-housing that is anything but meager starting with this 420 square foot apartment in Manhattan.

HILL: New York City, you will have guests come.

GUPTA (on camera): You can have guests here?

HILL: Yeah, absolutely.

Just a couple of bunk beds, and then there is this cool ladder thing that comes down.

We have so much more space and so much more stuff than we did 50 years ago, you'd think we would be happier. In fact, happiness levels are basically flat lined.

GUPTA (voice-over): The best part of living with less, more freedom to do what you love.

Join me Saturday, 2:30 p.m. on CNN.

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MALVEAUX: All this week we are focusing on girls' education ahead of our big CNN premiere of the film "Girl Rising." Each year, almost 400,000 babies are born to girls between 15 and 19 years old in the United States. Most of those teen moms have trouble finishing high school. One charter school in Detroit is trying to change that. Watch.

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SHANTINIQUE GARDNER, STUDENT, CATHERINE FERGUSON ACADEMY: My name, Shantinique Gardner. I grew up on the west side of Detroit. Kind of bad neighborhood. A lot of fighting and gang violence, which I got caught up into a whole lot.

When I found out I was pregnant, I was scared, just because of the fact that I was 15, and I didn't know what I was going to do about having a baby. Knew my whole life was going to have to change.

ASENATH ANDREWS, PRINCIPLE, CATHERINE FERGUSON ACADEMY: My name is Asenath Andrews, and I'm the principal of Catherine Ferguson Academy for Young Women, which is a high school for pregnant and parenting teens and their children in Detroit.

There are some people who say if you make it too easy for these girls they're going to have more and more kids, which is absurd. If you finish high school you have fewer children because you have a plan.

GARDNER: Since I ended upcoming here, I'm getting out of school faster than I originally would have.

Since we're all going through this together and since everybody had to grow up faster than what they should have, it's kind of a more mature environment than if I would have been in a regular high school.

ANDREWS: How many of you have a garden at home?

(voice-over): We ask students to take responsibility for developing their own learning plans along with advisory teachers, specialists and their families.

GARDNER: Ms. Andrews wants us to go to college and get education and do something with our life. You have a baby now. No dropping out of school. Don't be a statistic.

ANDREWS: All right, mamas, let's rock 'n' roll.

GARDNER: She's not going to sugar coat things like any other principal would.

ANDREWS: There's a way to figure out how to do whatever you need to do. You can't be stopped by just circumstances.

GARDNER: Where I'm from, it's a lot of drug addicts all around. I wanted to help them. In January, I'm going off to college. First, registered nursing. Then, for psychology and drug rehab.

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MALVEAUX: Good for her. The academy reports a 90 percent graduation rate. Almost all the graduates get accepted to college as well.

To learn more about Detroit's story, visit CNN.com/girlrising. The CNN film "Girl Rising" premieres this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern.

Then, the Duchess of Cambridge names a ship. But that is not what people are talking about. We're going to have Katherine's latest baby bump pic, up next.

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MALVEAUX: The little girl whose story sparked a national debate over transplant rules is now spending her first day with a new set of donor lungs. Doctors say 10-year-old Sarah Murnaghan's lung transplant was a success. The committee that sets the transplant rules temporarily changed its policy to give young kids equal access to adult organs. That decision on Monday allowed Sarah to receive the donated lung yesterday. Her family is optimistic that little Sarah will be walking and playing soon again. Good for her.

In London, the Duchess of Cambridge now a godmother. Not in the traditional sense. She did preside over a Christening -- of a cruise ship. Yep. As you can see, smashing success. This is the last solo appearance for the duchess until her baby is born. In case you were wondering, she is wearing a Dalmatian from the British store Hobbs. Cost, about $250. We checked online. Outfit already sold out in most sizes.

Chris Christie might be dropping hints about his political future. The New Jersey governor stopped by NBC's "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon." Christie tried his hand at slow jamming the news. Fallon slipped in a question about the governor's presidential aspirations. Watch.

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CHRIS CHRISTIE, (R), GOVERNOR OF NEW JERSEY: The question of election is not about planned politics. It's about doing the right thing.

JIMMY FALLON, HOST, LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON: You ain't lying, C.C.

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Now, look at you, sounding presidential-like. (LAUGHTER)

You got something you want to announce on the show right now?

CHRISTIE: Come on, Jimmy. Do you really think I'd come on this show to announce a presidential run?

FALLON: Say whatever you want, but we all know, in 2016 --

(SINGING)

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MALVEAUX: Love it. They're playing, of course, Bruce Springsteen's "Born to Run."

Well, that's it for me. Have a great afternoon. CNN NEWSROOM continues with Brooke Baldwin.