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Shooting in Santa Monica; Privacy Issues on Data Mining; MLB's Worst Doping Scandal Looming; Sunscreen Works; How to Spot the Toxic People in Your Life

Aired June 8, 2013 - 16:00   ET

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(LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE COVERAGE)

JACQUELINE SEABROOKS, SANTA MONICA POLICE CHIEF: I don't know that the investigation started at the Orchard address. I believe we were led there as a result.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Domestic incidents?

SEABROOKS: That would be the 2006 incident. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE).

SEABROOKS: It involves the person we believe - yes. To answer your question.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE).

SEABROOKS: I'm sorry, there was somebody talking while you were speaking.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).

SEABROOKS: Our investigation will have to disclose that. Because keeping in mind we are 24 hours out. So we still have to work closely with our allied partners to get that type of information.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you go through the time starting with the fire? (INAUDIBLE).

SEABROOKS: OK. I'm going to turn over for that level of specific detail, I'm going to turn the response to folks from our Public Information Office and let them address that issue.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You said there were five dead and one injured - I'm sorry. I'm down here. There is another woman in the hospital now that responded in her car but is not gravely injured. (INAUDIBLE).

SEABROOKS: She's injured but she's not gravely injured.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) what is the suspect's mother's address?

SEABROOKS: We have that location appropriately under review. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chief, how was the response (INAUDIBLE) changed by President Obama being nearby?

SEABROOKS: Well, one benefit is we had a lot of resources available to us for a ready response.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you able to use helicopters (INAUDIBLE)?

SEABROOKS: For law enforcement purposes we had helicopters where we needed them to be.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did the department draw on previous training related to counter terrorism, anything like that, in deciding on the plan of response?

SEABROOKS: The Santa Monica Police Department cotrains with the Santa Monica Community College Police Department. We engage in rapid response training which is consistent with the lessons learned from of these other mass shootings. Fortunately those that happened both in college settings and elsewhere. So that training was clearly utilized by the three responding officers who neutralized the suspect as one would expect.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think he went to the library for a specific reason?

SEABROOKS: I don't know why he went there.

(INAUDIBLE)

SEABROOKS: No, I can't. I'm sorry.

No, I don't have that count as of yet. I'm not sure but I believe it's 24 today. Would have been 23 yesterday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) are those high capacity magazines down there?

SEABROOKS: They hold more than four or five rounds. If one were to give an approximation if all of the magazines that we collected were in fact loaded fully, something in the order of about 1300 rounds. That's an estimation. 1300 rounds could have been fired had there not been an (INAUDIBLE) that person neutralized at an appropriate time.

(INAUDIBLE)

SEABROOKS: That's my understanding. Yes.

(INAUDIBLE)

SEABROOKS: No, I don't.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it in the hundreds or dozens?

SEABROOKS: I don't know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) you said his birthday was today?

SEABROOKS: It would have been today.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The suspected gunman.

SEABROOKS: That's correct.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) he's holding an assault rifle in one hand (INAUDIBLE) this picture. Can anybody tell what's in the left hand? Is that magazine?

SEABROOKS: I believe it is a magazine. Yes.

(INAUDIBLE)

SEABROOKS: Well, I think they met the challenge. That's what's more important to talk about.

No I cannot. We have not confirmed the next of kin. Aside from the victim that Chief Vasquez spoke of, we are not at liberty to release those names. But as soon as we have that availability, we will.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So how old would he have been today?

SEABROOKS: I believe, 24.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chief, what about the safe room? Can you describe what it offers.

SEABROOKS: As best I know it was just a room where they were able to go and be safe. There were some items in the room that they were able to pile against the door to keep him from coming in. That worked. By hunkering down low when he fired into the room the folks in the room were able to avoid being hit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chief.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When he carjacked the woman (INAUDIBLE) did he shoot her?

SEABROOKS: The person from whom he took the car and made her follow him, no, he didn't shoot her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He shot -

SEABROOKS: He shot someone else.

(END LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE COVERAGE)

FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right. You're listening to an amazing sequence of events and details emerging now one day after the shooting involving Santa Monica College yesterday. You're hearing from the Santa Monica police chief, Jacquelyn Seabrooks. Earlier it was said by the Santa Monica College police chief that they don't consider this a college campus shooting because the sequence of events began off campus, beginning with a house fire, according to Chief Seabrooks where two people believed to be related to the gunman, still unidentified. Then that gunman moving off the house fire leading to an alleged carjacking, then firing rounds hitting a city bus and then shooting a woman outside the library on the Santa Monica campus. Also trying to approach some other potential victims but they had themselves holed up in a safe room, avoiding injury.

In the end, police detained this gunman. In all, five people are dead including the gunman. One person, according to Chief Seabrooks, remaining in the hospital with a grim prognosis. The gunman has not been identified pending information that has to be passed on to relatives. Apparently the chief says that they may be out of the country and until they are able to identify that person or persons will they identify the gunman. But they will say this would have been the gunman's 24th birthday today.

All right. We'll have much more information as we continue to listen to the press conference that's ongoing and then we'll resume our coverage on that.

Meantime, a Texas actress in an unrelated case, accused of sending ricin-laced letters to President Barack Obama and to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg. The FBI arrested Shannon Richardson yesterday. Investigators say she admitted to sending the letters but claimed her husband forced her to do it. Her husband said she lied to the FBI. And court papers say a polygraph exam found her to be deceptive. Her husband has since filed for divorce. Richardson faces 10 years in prison if convicted.

All right. Court in the George Zimmerman murder trial has recessed for the day without a ruling on critical potential evidence. The judge was supposed to rule if voice analysis of 911 calls is admissible in court. Some experts suggested it was Trayvon Martin's voice heard calling for help the night that he was killed.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Does he look hurt to you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't see him. I don't want to go out there. I don't know what's going on. They're sending -

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think he's yelling help?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. What is your -

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WHITFIELD: CNN's Martin Savidge is live at the court house in Sanford, Florida. So Martin, the judge has not made a ruling on whether this evidence is admissible. We are talking about evidence as it pertains to voice analysis experts, right?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right. Yes, exactly that. The audio tape that you just heard that is going to be herd by the jury. It will be a part of the case. The question is what the prosecution wanted to do is they have a number of experts they say who have analyzed the audio and can determine who is screaming for help in the background. And of course, that would be crucial because the debate has been, who is the attacker here? And if you can determine who it is screaming for help you know they are not the attacker.

That's why that identification is considered crucial. The defense in this particular matter is saying, wait a minute here, that particular phone call, there was so much noise in the background, it's very hard to discern even with expert analysis, they question the science. They say you're not going to be able to tell who is screaming, absolutely 100 percent identify who that is. And so they refuting it. They don't want the analysis to be heard in the courtroom. The last expert to talk was George Doddington today. He refutes what the prosecution says that they can identify. Listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

GEORGE DODDINGTON, DEFENSE WITNESS/ELECTRICAL ENGINEER: There are no worthy judgments or decisions that can be made on this data. This is the worst - this is the worst possible forensic example.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: The judge has not said whether or not it's going to be allowed for the analysis to take place. They have continued this (INAUDIBLE) hearing, as it's called. It will have to wrap up sometime presumably next week after jury selection but before opening arguments. Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Interesting. So we are not talking about whether the tapes are admissible, but simply the analysis as to whether the potential jury will hear analysis of those tapes.

SAVIDGE: Right. And the experts that have come forward for the prosecution, there is one in particular who not only said that he could identify the voices who was, for instance, begging for help which he says is Trayvon Martin, but also some of the language used which is something nobody has ever been able to discern. Only this one expert.

And of course, if George Zimmerman is maintaining it's self-defense, I was under attack, I had to shoot the 17-year-old, if it's shown that the voice screaming for help is in fact Trayvon Martin that really greatly damages that kind of a defense.

WHITFIELD: All right. Martin Savidge, thanks so much again. Jury selection right now scheduled to begin on Monday. Appreciate that.

SAVIDGE: Right.

WHITFIELD: Meantime, the White House has announced a major agreement with China on global climate change. It comes out of that summit in California between President Obama and Chinese President Xi Jinping. The leaders have agreed to work together and with other countries to reduce the consumption and production of hydrofluorocarbons. The two also discussed cyber security and hope to improve relations between the superpowers.

The government is mining the data of millions of phone calls. We are talking about the U.S. government, through an agency that moves in secret. Now all eyes are on the National Security Agency. Coming up, we dig into the NSA.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: All right. Leaders of both Facebook and Google deny the government has access to their servers. They are reacting to the U.S. admitting that it tracks the online movement of some foreigners. The government also said this week its national security agency tracks the data of millions of phone calls and one senator said it's been doing so for the last seven years. How is the government tracking your information? CNN's Laurie Seagal joins us now live from New York. Good to see you, Laurie.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN TECH REPORTER: Nice to see you.

WHITFIELD: OK. So help us understand this surveillance program by the National Security Adviser.

SEGALL: You know what? It's very complicated. I will tell you this. We keep hearing about moving parts and the thing that's interesting about this is there is what we know and what we don't know. We keep finding out more information about what we don't know. It comes down to is your data, your privacy and what you are sharing on a regular basis. We broke it down for you. Check it out.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MATTHEW GREEN, ENCRYPTION EXPERT: What we learned is that there is a program. The program is basically designed to get information from Silicon Valley companies.

SEGALL (voice-over): Major tech companies including Google, Facebook and Microsoft deny any knowledge of a program called PRISM run by the National Security Agency.

According to classified documents obtained by the "Washington Post," PRISM collected data from nine major tech companies. At the heart of the matter, data mining.

GREEN: Data mining is the process of taking huge sets of data, information about what you have done, what you bought, all of this information that by itself would be very hard for a person to make any sense of. But then applying modern computer algorithms to it to basically pull out information out. You can see how that would be useful for National Security Agency, for example.

SEGALL: It's a common practice, but one users were shocked to hear about when these leaked slides give an inside look at how far the NSA was able to go.

GREEN: The slides mention e-mail, they may have other information, things like photos, for example, that you upload or took on your phone and were uploaded to, for example, Apple servers.

SEGALL: All of the companies mentioned have denied granting the government sweeping access saying that they took their users' privacy seriously and they will only share information when there is a court order. How could the NSA gather that information without the company's knowledge?

GREEN: One of the conjectures people are making is that they are actually tapping into the data that goes over the wire.

SEGALL: The director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, says the law covering such surveillance, "cannot be used to intentionally target any U.S. citizen, any other U.S. person, or anyone located within the United States."

(on camera): When you have a privacy scare like this the next step is people say, "Hey, how do we prevent this from happening?" Well, there is no easy answer. In short it's very difficult. But there are alternatives.

CHRIS SOGHOIAN, PRIVACY RESEARCHER: There are a bunch of tools that people can use. There is one that's been actually developed with State Department money for use in Arab Spring countries called a red phone. It's supported by the State Department and other NGOs.

SEGALL (voice-over): As users try to understand how to protect themselves, Silicon Valley is under fire.

SOGHIAN: I think these companies may be held accountable. I also think some subset of the population are maybe going to think twice before they store certain private files with these companies.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

SEGALL: And Fredricka, I should mention just now we have a note from James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence and he's declassifying some information. Because he says there's a lot of information out there that people just don't seem to understand. He says PRISM is used to facilitate the collection of data. He said it's not data mining. So we are hearing from all sides. But, you know, the reason it's got a lot of hype was the "Washington Post" had initially said the government is going directly to the servers.

Well, that may not be the case. And from what we're hearing it isn't necessarily the case. They have to have a court order under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. So that's what we are hearing right now. We'll keep you updated with anything coming in on this. Because when it comes down to it, it's our privacy. You know, you look at this kind of stuff and we say we need more transparency. You got a big scare factor here.

WHITFIELD: All right. Laurie Seagal. Thanks so much. In New York.

SEGALL: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: And this just in to the CNN "Newsroom." A grim sign possibly in the search for a missing teacher in Louisiana. Police in (INAUDIBLE) say they have located the car of Terrilyn Monette in a Bayou St. John in New Orleans. A female body was inside the car but police will not confirm if it is that of Monette. She has been missing since March.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Two girls, sisters from Cambodia, went from scavenging in a dump to attending college. CNN celebrates extraordinary girls from around the world and the power of education in our upcoming documentary "Girl Rising."

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were just horrified. There were hundreds of people on this giant garbage dump.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The smell was horrible.

WHITFIELD (voice-over): It was 2002 when Bill and Lauren Smith ended up at this garbage dump out Phnom Penh. They were sightseeing when their driver asked if they wanted to see the children.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were just starving, picking through garbage for a few cents a day.

WHITFIELD: So the Smiths decided to help one person.

LAUREN SMITH, HELPS CAMBODIAN GIRLS GO TO SCHOOL: I remember seeing this little girl with the red hat. I don't know if it was the red hat or if it was her eyes. But just looked kind of hopeless.

SREYNA OUN, SCAVENGED AT DUMP AS A CHILD: the motor guy, he came up to me and said, "Hey, these foreigners want to talk to you. They want to help you, help you go to school."

WHITFIELD: They took the 10-year-old Sreyna home to talk to her mother and met 12-year-old Celine.

LAUREN SMITH: Well, we got to help the sister, too.

WHITFIELD: The couple agreed to pay the girls' mother what the girls earned at the dump, about $10 a month each.

BILL SMITH, HELPS CAMBODIAN GIRLS TO SCHOOL: The deal was that they could never go back to the dump. And that we would put them in school, we would pay for everything.

WHITFIELD: Over the years, the girls became close to the Smiths.

SALIM: We feel like we have a second family. I get emotional. I don't have, like, a feeling with my family that much.

WHITFIELD: Now the two young women are attending college in Chicago.

SREYNA: Education, to me, is like a second life. (END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: Amazing. So now joining me from Chicago is that little girl in the red hat, Sreyna, and Lauren Smith, one half of the couple who helped Sreyna and her sister, Salim, get off that garbage dump. Then into school. Good to see both of you.

Lauren, let me begin with you. You know, we heard about how you are changing their lives but something tells me they have also helped changed yours.

LAUREN SMITH: They have. I mean, I always think that we got more out of it than they did. I mean, just to see how they've grown, how they've matured. How they have taken this education and this opportunity and they just ran with it. It's just, you know, I have to pinch myself everyday to really see it's real.

WHITFIELD: Well, Sreyna, it is amazing. You look at the still photographs that they took of you when you were little and you're on that big garbage mound and then we see the videotape, your experience attending college in Chicago and how you speak about, really a new lease on life. Describe for me, how you've been able to really kind of manage this incredible turnaround in your life.

SREYNA: I see like, since I come here, I see a lot of things different from my home country. I feel like I have a lot of ideas, open-minded about things. And they somehow helped me in my life to learn more things. I really enjoy, like, learning new things. They somehow brought me to somewhere that I really enjoy.

WHITFIELD: Did you ever envision that college is something you would be able to enjoy, experience?

SREYNA: I'm sorry.

WHITFIELD: I guess the question more simply is did you ever imagine that you would be able to get an education?

SREYNA: Before I met Bill and Lauren?

WHITFIELD: Before you met them.

SREYNA: Before I met them, no. I would never imagine my life would be like flying 24 hours away from home to come here and receive all this education at this school. I would have never thought of that. But Bill and Lauren somehow changed my life so much, all from somewhere very small that the world doesn't though about. Brought me here. I learned a lot. I see things different. I really enjoy and I hope, you know, people would see my life as, you know, somebody different now than before.

WHITFIELD: It's an incredible life story and turnaround. Congratulations Sreyna and your sister, Salim. And to the Smiths for making this happen for you. Lauren, thanks so much for your time. There are so many more stories just like your incredible commitment. People will see that in a CNN film "Girl Rising." It premieres Sunday, June 16, 9:00 p.m. Eastern.

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: All right. That's going to do it for me from the "CNN NEWSROOM", I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

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