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NANCY GRACE

Tot Mom, Raw and Uncensored: The Final Chapter

Aired July 15, 2011 - 20:00:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, tot mom, Casey Anthony, raw and uncensored, the final chapter.

Only hours left behind bars for tot mom, Casey Anthony, after what can only be described as a stunning not guilty verdict. Some of the most powerful evidence in court, tot mom`s parents, George and Cindy Anthony, at the jailhouse, desperately digging for answers about what happened to little Caylee, their granddaughter. Tot mom, Casey Anthony, angry, dodging questions, complaining she feels sorry for herself. But what about Caylee?

Six months of searching culminate when skeletal remains found in a heavily wooded area just 15 houses from the Anthony home confirmed to be Caylee. Tonight in her own words, tot mom, Casey Anthony, raw and uncensored, confronted behind bars by her own parents, the final chapter in our three-part series, tot mom uncensored.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CASEY ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S MOTHER: Good morning.

GEORGE ANTHONY, CASEY`S FATHER: Good morning, beautiful. I love you.

CASEY ANTHONY: Hi. I love you, too. Why is she crying already?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Because we haven`t seen you.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know.

GEORGE ANTHONY: So how`s your day starting out so far?

CASEY ANTHONY: I was asleep. So it`s all right. I woke up at 5:00, stayed up for about an hour and then went back to bed for a little bit. So my eyes are red. I`m tired.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. So what else is going on with you?

CASEY ANTHONY: Nothing. The usual, just I guess waiting around. Those are new shirts. I like those.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, the Never Lose Hope Foundation did these for us, so...

CASEY ANTHONY: I like those a lot. Those are really nice.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, those are really sweet, really, really sweet. Can you read what they say?

CASEY ANTHONY: "Fly home baby," and I don`t see the bottom.

GEORGE ANTHONY: It says "Fly home baby, we miss you."

CASEY ANTHONY: Those are nice shirts. I like those.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Let me have you speak to Mom, OK? Now, she`s right here. She`s pulling at the phone. Hold on.

CASEY ANTHONY: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY`S MOTHER: Hi, sweetie.

CASEY ANTHONY: Hi, Mom.

CINDY ANTHONY: Oh!

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, I lasted a minute. How are you feeling?

CINDY ANTHONY: I`m not doing well, Casey. None of us. Lee`s been sick. Dad`s blown up at the media.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, I heard.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, someone just said that Caylee was dead this morning, that she drowned in the pool. That`s the newest story out there.

CASEY ANTHONY: Surprise, surprise.

CINDY ANTHONY: So it`s very hard.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, yes, I -- trust me, I know that. Someone just sent me some of the stuff that`s been on line, comments that people have been leaving off of certain articles, I guess, that have been written. And it was very upsetting last night to see that.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. You know, it`s terrible, Casey, getting hate mail, threatening letters.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, I haven`t gotten anything like that, thankfully. All of the letters that I`ve gotten have been positive, even the letter that she attached was still very positive. Everyone`s certain that she`s OK, offering help. A couple people said that they`ve called and talked to Dad or left him messages, so...

CINDY ANTHONY: We need to -- we need to have something to go on.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I don`t have anything! I`m sorry. I`ve been here a month. I`ve been here a month today. Can you understand how I feel? I mean, do you really understand how I feel in this? I`m completely, completely out of the loop with everything. The only information I get is when I see my attorney. That`s it.

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, (INAUDIBLE)

CASEY ANTHONY: Outside of that, I have nothing to go on. Every day, I have to sit here and wait and wonder, wonder if something`s going on, wonder -- wondering if there`s something new.

CINDY ANTHONY: Did Jose ask you about which one of us you`d want to meet with?

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, I wanted to see Dad. I mean, I want to see everybody, but I had to choose and I wanted to see Dad.

CINDY ANTHONY: All right. Well, then, here, talk to your dad.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Hey, sweetheart.

CASEY ANTHONY: Hey.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Hey, listen, I want you to know, you are the boss through this whole thing, OK?

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, no, I`m not anymore, Dad! I haven`t been since I got here.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Oh, yes, you are. You are the -- think of this for a second.

CASEY ANTHONY: Dad...

GEORGE ANTHONY: Listen...

CASEY ANTHONY: Listen...

GEORGE ANTHONY: Listen -- no, no. Just listen to me...

CASEY ANTHONY: I`ve been thinking about this...

GEORGE ANTHONY: ... just for one moment. OK, just listen to me for one second, OK? Listen, think of you owning this conglomerate, this huge business. Jose is one of your employees, so is the sheriff`s department, so is the FBI, so am I, so is Lee, so is Mom. You know, we`re all working with you. And if for some reason, something is not being said or being done, you can make a change. You`re the one that can say, Listen...

CASEY ANTHONY: Dad, I`ve told Jose -- no, I`ve given him the information to give you guys. We`ve given the information. You guys have given everything to the police. They`re not helping us. It`s obvious. We know their intentions. So I`m sorry. I`ve helped in every way that I possibly can since the day I got here!

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. Well, let me ask you...

CASEY ANTHONY: They didn`t even give me 24 hours to help them, the police, without putting me here. So it`s obvious where everybody`s intentions lie. I know you guys want Caylee. I want Caylee more than anybody can understand, but I can`t do anything. I can`t do anything from where I`m at.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK, let me ask you this. If I can make some arrangements just to meet with you just one on one, just you and I, or Lee or mom, would you be open to that? Because I can do it within a matter of just a few hours.

CASEY ANTHONY: Dad, this was already discussed and I already said yes.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: This was something that we had already discussed. Supposedly, it was supposed to have already happened.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, there`s been some...

CASEY ANTHONY: I understand.

GEORGE ANTHONY: ... things that`s happened to change that. There`s nothing been on my part to change that, or mom`s part or your brother`s part.

CASEY ANTHONY: No, I understand that. It`s not you guys.

GEORGE ANTHONY: I mean, I told these guys -- I told these guys within an hour I can be ready. I want to hug you. I want to talk to you, just you and I, you know?

CASEY ANTHONY: Jose is making sure that I`m well aware of what`s going on. He`s keeping me completely updated on stuff, which I in every way appreciate because...

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK, I just -- I just want you to...

CASEY ANTHONY: ... then he -- that`s all I`ve had to go off of with stuff.

GEORGE ANTHONY: I want you to realize something. Number one, or at least number 1.1 and number 1 should be you and Caylee. That`s the way it should be. It shouldn`t be...

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, it`s split.

GEORGE ANTHONY: ... Jose, then you, then Caylee, you know, everything else is falling in line. It`s -- you know, it has to be -- it has to be you two, you know, you and your daughter that has got to be the ones that`s got to be focused on here.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, he`s focusing on Caylee and I. You guys are focusing on Caylee. I know I`m still part of your focus, but she`s your main focus, and I understand that. Dad, I know where everybody`s priorities lie. I knew that the day that I got here.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, you know, just (INAUDIBLE) then again, I want to bring up this thing about, you know, you being the boss. You`re the one that can control everything. You`re the one that...

CASEY ANTHONY: No, I -- Dad! Please!

GEORGE ANTHONY: Sweetie, OK...

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m completely...

GEORGE ANTHONY: I`m not trying to get you upset. I`m trying to talk to you.

CASEY ANTHONY: No, but I am upset now.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Please...

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m completely upset. One, the media is going to have a frickin` field day with this!

GEORGE ANTHONY: No, they`re not.

CASEY ANTHONY: I wasn`t even -- I wasn`t even supposed to tape this.

(CROSSTALK)

CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second! Dad, I let everybody talk.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: They`re not releasing it. Well, I hope not. I`ll keep saying whatever I have to about the police...

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. Here`s Mom...

CASEY ANTHONY: ... so they don`t let it go.

(CROSSTALK)

CASEY ANTHONY: Can someone let me -- come on!

CINDY ANTHONY: Casey, hold on, sweetheart. Settle down, baby.

CASEY ANTHONY: Nobody`s letting me speak! You want me to talk, then...

CINDY ANTHONY: All right.

CASEY ANTHONY: ... give me...

CINDY ANTHONY: I`ll listen to you.

CASEY ANTHONY: ... three seconds to say something!

CINDY ANTHONY: Go, sweetheart.

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m not in control over any of this because I don`t know what the hell`s going on! I don`t know what`s going on! My entire life has been taken from me! Everything has been taken from me! You don`t understand! Everybody wants me to have answers. I don`t have answers because I don`t know what`s going on. I have no one to talk to except Jose when he comes! That`s the only person that I can talk to right now because I can`t even say anything to you guys besides telling you that I love you, I want Caylee, things like that.

And that`s not even getting put on the air, which it should be! It`s everything else, everything that I`m -- I`m not (ph) saying. That`s why I haven`t been calling. That`s why I haven`t been taking calls because him and I said that we weren`t going to do that because I`m trying to make sure that I`m not going to give anybody anything else to throw against me. And even with me giving them nothing, they`re still doing it so...

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, everything is...

CASEY ANTHONY: ... how am I...

CINDY ANTHONY: ... going to go away with you. You`ll be fine once Caylee`s found.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I understand that! Do you understand my position on this? You guys expect me to have a thousand answers, and I have nothing! I`ve been here a month, out of contact with everybody except you guys on the rare occasion that I get to see you, and my attorney. Do you understand? What am I supposed to learn from that? What am I supposed to learn from that?

The first week-and-a-half, yes, I tried to help you guys backtrack. Again, that`s all I can do is backtrack. I can`t backtrack on anything. A month, I`ve been removed from the situation.

You don`t -- you guys are not understanding my side on this, and I`m sorry.

CINDY ANTHONY: No, I understand.

CASEY ANTHONY: No, you don`t because you`re still asking me if there`s anything that I can tell you that`s going to help, that I`m the one that can do this. I can`t. The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped. I`m trying. I was trying. There`s nothing more that I can say or do until I`m home. And even then, I don`t know what I can do from that point, but I can at least do something other than sit on my butt all day and read or look up stuff for my case because that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus because it`s the only thing...

CINDY ANTHONY: Our focus has to be...

CASEY ANTHONY: ... that I can (INAUDIBLE)

CINDY ANTHONY: ... finding Caylee.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, if that`s my focus, which it is, I can`t do anything from here! I don`t have access to the Internet. I can`t make phone calls. I can`t go anywhere.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, what can I do?

CASEY ANTHONY: I`ve already told you, Mom! I`ve told you everything...

CASEY ANTHONY: I`ve thought about...

CASEY ANTHONY: ... you can do.

CINDY ANTHONY: ... everything that you told me in the last month.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, you`ve thought about stuff and you`ve done what you can. I`m sorry. That`s all I can do from the only knowledge that I have!

CASEY ANTHONY: I was in Lake County two days ago.

CASEY ANTHONY: OK.

CINDY ANTHONY: Is there anything there?

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom! I`m sorry. I love you guys. I miss you...

CINDY ANTHONY: All right, sweetheart. Here`s Dad.

CASEY ANTHONY: No, I`m going to hang up and just walk away right now because...

CINDY ANTHONY: Please don`t.

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m frustrated and I`m angry, and I don`t want to be angry. This is the first time I`ve truly, truly been angry this entire time. But I`m so beyond frustrated with all of this that I can`t even swallow right now!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Next, raw and uncensored, tot mom, Casey Anthony, takes on her own parents during a jailhouse visit, and it`s all caught on tape.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: In a tense confrontation, tot mom, Casey Anthony, blows up at parents George and Cindy, dodging question after question as they try desperately to dig for answers. We hear tot mom`s private pity party, her anger at investigators and even at her own family, furious at the media, admitting to watching herself on TV. We have the video.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CASEY ANTHONY: You guys have each other. You`re sitting next to Dad. You still have Lee. You have access to our community, to our family and friends, to our house. You`re taking for granted the fact that I have no one to comfort me but myself and the occasional visit, which has to be business for the sake of finding Caylee. So yes, I may look like I`m in charge -- wrong! I`m completely pushed away from everything!

CINDY ANTHONY: No. All he`s telling...

CASEY ANTHONY: Everything.

CINDY ANTHONY: ... you is that you can tell -- they have to honor your wishes when you say something. That`s all Dad`s trying to tell you. Jose has to honor...

CASEY ANTHONY: And he has been, Mom.

CINDY ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: He has been with everything. Everything.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, you know he`s in New York now for a couple days.

CASEY ANTHONY: He`s doing stuff for business for me.

CINDY ANTHONY: I know. I know.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, Mom, you`re not telling me anything that I don`t know.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well...

CASEY ANTHONY: Please. I don`t want to get frustrated or upset with you, but...

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, I just -- in his absence, Dominick`s a good person if you want to talk to anybody.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I`ve -- thank you. I`ve already talked to everybody. I know who I`m allowed to talk to, who I`m not allowed to talk to, who I can see, who I can`t see, who`s going to see me, who`s not going to see me.

CINDY ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: We`ve arranged all of this. It`s already been set up. Again, he`s the one person that`s keeping me in the loop because he`s the only person that can. And he`s making sure that he`s doing that in every way possible.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, I just hope he`s telling you honestly what you`re up against.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I know what I`m honestly up against. You guys understand what I`m honestly up against. And with keeping me here, you`re not helping me help myself.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well...

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m sorry to say that.

CINDY ANTHONY: At least you`re safe. We don`t have the means to get you out anyway, sweetheart. We don`t.

CASEY ANTHONY: I understand that. But the opportunity was there, and it wasn`t taken advantage of and...

CINDY ANTHONY: We didn`t have an opportunity. I don`t know where you`re hearing that.

CASEY ANTHONY: Just give Dad the phone, please. I`m sorry. I don`t want to get frustrated. Just give Dad the phone.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Hi, sweetie.

CASEY ANTHONY: This is seriously the first time that I`ve been angry, that I`ve been this frustrated to where I -- I can`t even think straight at this moment throughout this entire thing. I was pissed off that day at the police station. I was mad when all of that happened. But I tried to look at things objectively. And this entire time, I haven`t sat in my room for the entire month and been mad. Not once, not one time!

But right now, this is the most agitated and frustrated I`ve been. Even when I sat with Jose and watched that episode of NANCY GRACE and stuff that was being said about mom and being said about me and him and everybody else and stuff that I`ve heard -- it`s frustrated me, but I`ve let it go. Right now, I`m so hurt by everything, I don`t even know what to say. And I hate to say that.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, I`m not trying to upset you, and neither are mom. We`re not trying to. And if we are, I`m sorry for that. I`m sorry.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know that`s not your intention. You have to understand where I`m coming from in this. And obviously, none of you are. By still expecting me a month literally out of the loop to have some sort of new insight on stuff -- I mean, really?

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. I realize this is really hard for you to talk about, especially...

CASEY ANTHONY: Because I can`t do anything! Because I`ve done everything! I`ve said everything. I`ve thought about everything. That`s all I can do is sit and think every day. And that`s what I`ve done. Any information that I`ve given has been passed on. I know that.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. You know, it`s just hard, I know, for you. It`s hard for us because none of us have ever been through any of this kind of stuff before. None of us, you know?

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, obviously not. And we need to stick together in this, and it`s hard for us to at this point.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, we are sticking together. We are.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, for Mom to say that you guys have nothing, when I told her -- you guys still all have each other to lean on. I don`t have anybody. I have myself and the occasions that I can see my attorneys, who are trying to do whatever they can for myself and for Caylee.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: So you guys at least have a crutch or multiple crutches throughout the community with everybody.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, even that is waning at the moment, believe me.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: When we come back, more stunning jailhouse video and the tough decision tot mom, Casey Anthony, says she`s got to make behind bars.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: The strain on the Anthony family comes to light during a jailhouse visit caught on tape. But once again, tot mom makes it all about her and the tough decisions she says she is making behind bars.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CASEY ANTHONY: I wanted to see Lee, and I want to talk to Lee, but I knew most of that would be an interrogation with him. He`d have a whole list of questions that he`d ask me. With no...

GEORGE ANTHONY: Honestly, no. Honestly, no. He really doesn`t.

CASEY ANTHONY: Well, that`s how it`s been, Dad. I`m just thinking of how it`s been with everything. With Mom -- Mom will dominate a lot of the conversation, which is how it`s been. I mean, you and I, we`ve been separated for a while. And we were just -- I want to see all of you, but I wanted to see the one person that I`ve been so far disconnected from the longest, and that`s been you.

GEORGE ANTHONY: I`m thankful for that. Thank you.

CASEY ANTHONY: It was hard for me to make my choice. I sat there for a half hour with Jose trying to think about this. And he told me it`s up to me who I wanted to see, how I wanted to do this, how I wanted to figure it out. And it was hard because I don`t want to have to choose between the three of you, you know, who I want to see or talk to. But I made a choice, and I stand behind that.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, that`s good. I`m glad you made that choice, you know, on your own. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Thank you. I know it`s a tough decision for you. I know that.

CASEY ANTHONY: Everything`s a tough decision just because I`m so limited on the decisions that I can actually make now.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes. I know. Well, let me see if I can handle it a different way to get in to see you even sooner. Would that be OK with you?

CASEY ANTHONY: Do what you have to do. I mean, I`m not, obviously, going anywhere right now, so I`m here. I`m biding my time, so...

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. Well, you know, you could always -- just -- here`s a thought for you just a second. The people that are with you right now, inside where you`re at, you can expedite this very quickly, if you want to, OK?

CASEY ANTHONY: How?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Just mention to the people that are there with you, you know, the corrections people, you know, that, OK, I want to see my dad and I want to see my dad now. And they can expedite that through Mr. Barry (ph) and stuff like that. They can do everything within just a matter of hours for you, they really can.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. I tried that. Negative. There`s only so much that they can do. I can make phone calls. I can take these visits. There`s only so much that I can actually do. It`s going to have to come from the outside, from someone else. I can`t. I`ve asked those questions. I`ve tried that already. I`ve been asking every question that I can possibly think of.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK. Well, I`ll do what I -- I`m going to do this on my own. I`m going to make sure that you and I can get together here just very quickly, OK?

CASEY ANTHONY: OK.

GEORGE ANTHONY: I`m going to do that. I really am.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: When we come back, all about tot mom as she repeatedly complains to her parents during a jailhouse visit.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GRACE: Welcome back to "Tot Mom, Raw And Uncensored: The Final Chapter."

Only hours left behind bars for tot mom Casey Anthony and what can only be described as a stunning not guilty verdict.

Some of the most powerful evidence in court is video of tot mom`s jailhouse visits with parents George and Cindy as they desperately dig for answers to find little Caylee.

We see tot mom still blaming so-called the nanny, nanny Zani, actually Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez for the kidnap of little Caylee. A nanny that even tot mom`s own defense eventually admits doesn`t exist.

Well, it`s all caught on tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CASEY ANTHONY, MOTHER OF CAYLEE ANTHONY: I spent the day almost completely by myself with my head under the covers. I read my bible almost the entire day. I was miserable. I was completely and utterly miserable just like I have been the entire time. That was the first time outside of our visits that I`ve really showed any emotion and I was open and I didn`t care because I couldn`t hold anything back and I broke down.

It was the first time that I truly, truly broke down. And it hurt. And I`m still recovering from that. Hearing about that mom was making chili and there was probably a bunch of people at the house.

GEORGE ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S FATHER: No, there wasn`t. There was just your brother and I and your mom and Mallory came over a little after work so that`s - that was it.

So whatever else you heard, that was totally wrong.

CASEY ANTHONY: I was told that mom was making food. I`m just going off people were telling me, what they were relaying from the media. So I was just speculating myself.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, mom made her great chili. You know we had some bread and cornbread you know. This whole thing is like that. It was just us. There was no one else.

There was -- I`m sorry. Mom did remember. There was a young guy who just called who was alone and just wanted to have a little bit of a family. He came over and we talked for about an hour. We never met the man before. He was alone, so we opened our heart to him just to come in and talk.

CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S MOTHER: Well, that`s what you should do.

GEORGE ANTHONY: And that was something he need and truth I think we needed also.

CASEY ANTHONY: Bible says to love thy neighbor, to share the things you have to give unto others so you did exactly what you should do. And by all means, I know that meant more to him than any of you guys could possibly imagine.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, it certainly is. I mean he was a really nice guy. It was nice to talk to him and get the chance to know him a little bit.

So how about you? Are you eating and stuff? You get the chance to enjoy more comfortable sandwiches with coleslaw?

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m eating so they leave me alone.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Coleslaw?

CASEY ANTHONY: It`s a little more than that. Yes, I`m eating just so I`m not being bothered with are your eating. Because if I don`t eat, then they`ll say something.

I`m sleeping or trying to sleep when I can so I`m not getting bothered about that. I`m just trying to do whatever I can do so I`m not being stared at all day every day, so they`re not worrying about me, too.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, just to let you the area that you`re in, there`s not too many people that have an opportunity to stay where you`re at. So realize it`s - you`re sort of --

CASEY ANTHONY: No, I`m not really. Trust me. There are other people in similar situations to myself that aren`t the focus of the media, but that are under more custody that are here.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: There are other people. I know a lot about all of this surprisingly now. I didn`t want to upset mom, but -- for once I`ve let you guys talk. I wanted to hear everything you guys have had to say and more.

But at this point, I mean, I can only hold so much back now and hold so much in and not show my little bit of frustration with stuff because I`ve been very good about not doing that and about staying calm.

GEORGE ANTHONY: I know. I`m very thankful you took the time to talk to us today. I mean I really am. When we first got here I thought, maybe we might be turned away. I`m glad you talked to us I really am, but got a chance to see you.

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m glad I got a chance to see you guys, too. Even if it`s only like this and to talk to you and all, I`m praying it doesn`t go out on the media. Because some of it has, some of it hasn`t. I guess they`re picking and choosing.

GEORGE ANTHONY: No, the only stuff that went out is when you talked to Lee and that`s been a couple weeks ago, nothings have been said about mom and I you know.

CASEY ANTHONY: Because I haven`t talked.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Just you know just realize that everything that we`ve talked to you about is staying where it`s staying. It`s not going out anywhere else.

CASEY ANTHONY: These are the conversations when you know I am an emotional wreck which is fine. I don`t want anybody to see this stuff. I`d rather it be between us so it is personal so we can keep things personal so it doesn`t feel like it`s just another business transaction like with other stuff.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Absolutely. Absolutely.

CASEY ANTHONY: I didn`t want to upset mom I just -- I`m running low on steam, too. If it wasn`t for the fact that I`m sitting by myself all day sleeping, I`m probably - I`m getting sick right now. I can feel it. I felt it when I got up. My eyes are still red. It wasn`t from sleeping. I`m getting a cold.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Your mom wants to talk to you, one second.

CASEY ANTHONY: Go ahead.

CINDY ANTHONY: Hey.

CASEY ANTHONY: Hey.

I`m sorry I upset you. I didn`t want to upset you. I was just telling dad that. That wasn`t my intention. But I`ve -- I`ve let everybody talk. I haven`t gotten to say anything. I haven`t wanted to say anything. I haven`t wanted to be frustrated or show that but I can`t hold that in all the time. It`s getting harder.

CINDY ANTHONY: I know.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know each day is getting harder on everybody.

CINDY ANTHONY: You don`t know, Casey, how hard it is.

CASEY ANTHONY: Oh, I don`t know. Being the one most secluded and I don`t know what`s going on.

CINDY ANTHONY: That`s a good thing because if you were out, your -

CASEY ANTHONY: It`s a good thing because I put myself away from all that. I haven`t watched the media. I don`t want to hear anything.

CINDY ANTHONY: Now I know and you don`t because it`s just -- it`s just obscene everything that`s going on out there.

CASEY ANTHONY: It`s obscene the stuff people are saying. But you know again, they`re ignorant and we have to look at it like that. I`m trying to look at things objectively and to stay as calm as I can about stuff, especially the things I`m hearing.

I know the most negative stuff that`s being said. And it`s sickening. It`s disgusting. And people really need to get a life. If they have nothing nice to say they need to shut up. That`s not going to happen. Life is not fair.

People aren`t always going to be nice and they are not going to look at things from other people`s perspectives. It`s sad. It`s unfortunate they`re going to judge people. They`re going to pass judgments about something they don`t know, stuff that being said have been completely fabricated and twisted and everything else and it`s ridiculous.

But you know it mom, that guy; it`s going to blow over. I`m not going to give the media anything when I get out of here. It sucks for them because I have nothing to say. All I want is my kid back and to be back with my family. That`s all I want. That`s all I`m asking.

But I`m going to ask them for it because they`re not going to give that to me. They`re not. I`ll do whatever the hell I have to get my family back together. That`s it. That`s all I want to do.

CINDY ANTHONY: You still think she`s OK?

CASEY ANTHONY: I know in my heart mom. I know in my gut she`s alright. I can feel it. Every day that gets stronger. And I still know she`s coming home. I can still feel that she`s coming home.

CINDY ANTHONY: You think she`s going to change her mind and let her? I mean what can I say to her on the air? Because I can get one person to let me say what I need to say or what you want to say to Zani. What do you want me to tell her that`s going to make her bring her back?

CASEY ANTHONY: Just tell her that we forgive her.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

GRACE: Next, more jailhouse video of tot mom`s face to face meeting with Caylee`s grandparents, her own parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

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GRACE: In her own words, we hear tot mom dodging question after question as she is being confronted by her parents, George and Cindy, behind bars.

Tot mom tries to convince them Caylee is safe. All the while, crying tears, turning them on and off like a water faucet.

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CINDY ANTHONY: Do you think she could be out of the country or anywhere?

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I don`t want to have to go into the same thing that it`s always been. Please stop it. This is one of the main reasons that I chose dad. Is because he won`t sit there and keep asking me the same questions 500 times over like you and Lee have done.

I want to see each and every one of you at least with dad, honestly, the true main reason I want to see him is because him and I have had broken relationship for such a long time. And we were just finally starting to talk the day that this unfolded, the day that I was brought here.

CINDY ANTHONY: All right.

CASEY ANTHONY: It was impossible for me to make a decision like that. I want you to understand where I was coming from. I also want Lee to understand where I was coming from.

I said I wanted to see all three of you. You can`t. You can only see one. Who do you want to see?

I sat for a half hour and thought about it, deliberated. I hate having to do that. To have to make decisions like that of whom in my family do I want to see more. It`s not who I want to see more. It`s just I don`t know. I don`t know anymore.

CINDY ANTHONY: It`s hard going into Caylee`s room now.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, I saw your picture in "People" magazine.

CINDY ANTHONY: I love you, honey.

CASEY ANTHONY: I love you, too.

CINDY ANTHONY: I want both my girls back. At least I know you`re OK. I don`t know about Caylee. That`s what makes it so hard every day.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know that. But I`m really not OK. I may be in a place where you know that I`m at but besides that, besides me being here physically.

CINDY ANTHONY: But at least you`re safe. And we know where you`re at.

We don`t know where Caylee is at. We don`t know if they`re feeding her.

CASEY ANTHONY: Mom, I know everything that they`re saying. I just know she`s OK. I can feel it. Even on her birthday, that entire day. I was completely miserable like I told dad.

All I think of this I mean there`s every adjective I can think of that was bad that would describe how I felt. But honestly nothing can describe what I was feeling. Nothing.

CINDY ANTHONY: A lot of people, most people we don`t even know brought her flowers, balloons, little stuffed animals. Some stuff we haven`t opened up, just waiting for her to come home.

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m glad that you`ve had so much support from the community. I have from out of state, from all over the country. People have been sending me letters and stuff telling me to keep my head up.

Yes, I`m getting stuff being sent through the mail. I mean Michelle Murphy sent me a book. I hope one of you guys can tell her I got it and thank you.

CINDY ANTHONY: You can have that book, why can`t you have your bible?

CASEY ANTHONY: Because nothing can be physically brought in from the outside. She bought me a book and had it sent to me. They sent me a bible as soon as you said that I refused it.

I didn`t refuse it. I can`t be given anything. You can`t just bring stuff and say here you go.

They have to check through stuff.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, I don`t know I just - I gave it to Jose.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. I know. He showed it to me. And I was like I would love to have that but I don`t think you can just give it to me. And he asked one of the officers when we were leaving that day and we split from the meeting. She said probably not. He could ask someone else but -

CINDY ANTHONY: If we can get it back. Maybe I can send it to you.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes. You can send it through the mail, they`ll check it through.

CINDY ANTHONY: I`m not sure where it`s at. I think they have it.

CASEY ANTHONY: No, I think Jose has it.

CINDY ANTHONY: I don`t think so. He would have given it back to me. I`ll find our though.

CASEY ANTHONY: He has probably because wouldn`t have just given it to somebody. Just ask him and I know if he couldn`t have gotten that taken care of right away.

That was a couple weeks ago. He probably still has it.

CINDY ANTHONY: All right. Well, dad wants to talk to you some more.

CASEY ANTHONY: OK.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Hey, sweetheart.

CASEY ANTHONY: Hey.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Can you ask for something to write with since you can send a note to the sheriff himself? Attention to Kevin Berry. Just listen to me for a second.

CASEY ANTHONY: Yes, I`m listening.

GEORGE ANTHONY: And tell him that you want to speak to me or Lee or mom and you want it to be done today. He can he can do it.

CASEY ANTHONY: Dad --

GEORGE ANTHONY: Listen.

CASEY ANTHONY: I`m listening. How am I going to get anything to him?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Just ask someone in corrections to give you paper and pen, whatever it`s going to take or pencil just to write it and put attention to him and say I need for this to be delivered to him now.

They will do that. Believe me. I`ve already discuss that had with a lot of other people that they said if you request that they can do it.

Believe me.

And listen. And listen. It can be at a location as it not going to be recorded. It`s going to be a place where just you and I or you and lee or you and mom can sit down and just talk. That`s what it`s about.

It`s not going to be over a phone. It`s not going to be like we`re doing right now. It`s going to be face to face.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know. I understood the arrangements.

GEORGE ANTHONY: But I just want you to know it can be done without anyone else being there, except just us. You know just like you and me, you and Lee, or you and mom. It can be done, sweetie.

CASEY ANTHONY: I understand that.

GEORGE ANTHONY: And I`m trusting the people who told me that because they want us to have that time.

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HOLLY HIRSBERG: I love the United States. I think it`s a wonderful place to live. It`s scary to me with so much land, with so much abundance that people are hungry.

In 2008 my husband lost his job. It was a very, very difficult time, and the first thing we did was plant a garden. If you grow your own food, you never have to worry about how you`re going to feed your family. And if we help mothers garden, then we can help pull themselves up out of poverty.

I`m Holly Hirsberg and we fight hunger in the United States by giving away seeds and teaching people to grow their own food.

We pack enough seeds to grow food for a family of four. We want to help people provide for themselves. This is an eggplant. I already harvested some of it.

My garden is in front of my apartment. I can grow tomatoes, bell pepper, in just flower pots. If it wasn`t for my garden then I wouldn`t be able to afford fresh produce at all.

Here we have tomato plant. These were all from seeds from the garden. We have provided over 65,000 seed backs to families all over the country.

We also have provided seeds for over 180 community gardens.

HIRSBERG: So who wants to grow vegetables?

We still have a lot of families whose children only eat when at school. When they are at home we really want them to have the best nutrition possible. And certainly you can`t do better than garden veggies.

I`m not a master gardener. I wouldn`t even say I`m a good gardener. I`m enthusiastic gardener.

The seeds to all the work, we provide the seeds, we help you grow them. You eat the food. Goodbye hunger.

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GRACE: Stunning jailhouse visits between tot mom Casey Anthony and grandparents George and Cindy. With the Anthony family ripped apart, tot mom insists she`s the victim.

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GEORGE ANTHONY: Listen, I love you. I love you. I love you so, so much.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know. I love you too.

Tell Lee that I love him and that I miss him and I`m sorry I missed my visit with him. I felt so bad after I missed his visit and then missed your visit.

I want to be right there with you guys. I really do. I know that eventually I will be, but it can`t happen fast enough.

GEORGE ANTHONY: That`s very true. That`s very true.

CASEY ANTHONY: The only reason I don`t want to be here is so I can be home to get Caylee back faster. That`s the only reason. It`s all I care about.

GEORGE ANTHONY: You`re the boss. You know you do what you need to do to get all this stuff going in that direction. OK?

CASEY ANTHONY: As far as that`s concerned, that one thing yes, I am pretty very much to it, everything else, no. I`m being told once what to do and when to do it. You don`t understand. I may have been the boss walking in here. But the rules have surely changed.

GEORGE ANTHONY: OK.

CASEY ANTHONY: Everything is out of my control. I need to be looked at as a victim because I`m just as much as -- OK we have a minute. I`m just as much of a victim as the rest of you. It hasn`t been portrayed that way and it probably won`t be. But I know that and at least there are others that understand that.

CINDY ANTHONY: I know.

CASEY ANTHONY: So, please give Lee my love. Give Mallory my love. Tell everyone how much I miss them. And I`ll see everyone soon.

CINDY ANTHONY: I hope so. Dad wants to say goodbye.

CASEY ANTHONY: I love you mom.

CINDY ANTHONY: I love you.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Listen. You know that you can trust me. You can trust mom and you can trust Lee.

CASEY ANTHONY: I know that.

(END VIDEO TAPE)

GRACE: Let`s stop and remember.

Army Sergeant Jennifer Hartman, 21, New Ringgold Pennsylvania, killed Iraq.

Awarded bronze star Purple Heart army achievement. Loved being outdoors, riding, traveling.

Remembered as the greatest big sister who took pride in driving army hummers, dreamed of starting a family business, leaves behind parents, David and Bernice, Sister Cathy and brother, Bryan.

Jennifer Hartman, American hero.

Thanks to our guests who visited here.

See you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp eastern.

Until then, good night. END

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