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NANCY GRACE

Van Der Sloot`s Escape Route From Lima to Santiago

Aired June 18, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight in the disappearance of Alabama beauty Natalee Holloway, missing off her high school senior trip, Aruba. Aruban police refuse to make a case against Joran Van Der Sloot even after he describes Natalee`s death, admitting he hid the body. Tonight, live, Peru, Van Der Sloot kills again. Another young girl meets him at a resort casino. Just hours later, she`s found brutally beaten, bloody, her neck broken, partially clothed on Van Der Sloot`s hotel room floor. He goes on the run to Chile. After a massive manhunt, Van Der Sloot captured.

Spine-chilling video of Van Der Sloot with 21-year-old Stephany just before she`s found dead. Bloody clothes from the murder found with Van Der Sloot on the run. U.S. feds busting Van Der Sloot on a quarter-million- dollar scam to sell the location of Natalee`s body.

Van Der Sloot confesses to Stephany`s murder, and after beating her to a pulp and breaking her neck, Van Der Sloot kicks back with a cup of coffee and Danish just inches from her dead body. We obtain the confession verbatim as Van Der Sloot charged with murder one, booked into Peru`s most notorious jail. Police seize Van Der Sloot`s laptop after he claims a FaceBook death threat over Natalee Holloway pops up, triggering the fatal argument. That evidence set to torpedo the defense an show there`s no argument, that he`s just a cold-blooded killing machine who murdered Stephany for money.

After weeks of trying, we go inside Castro Castro, the despised Peruvian prison, and tonight inside Van Der Sloot`s private cell, the jail so dangerous, officials bar us from the rest of the prison. We meet with inmates behind bars with Van Der Sloot and learn Van Der Sloot`s new nickname behind bars, " psychopath." New best friend, a Colombian assassin, alias "the clown." As Van Der Sloot`s mother and brothers remain in hiding, we learn new forensic evidence positively places him in the room with dead Stephany.

Bombshell tonight. The case against judge`s son Joran Van Der Sloot as we track his movements, criss-crossing South America. Are there more victims in addition to two suspect young girl victims missing from casinos, Bogota? Where else has Van Der Sloot been? How many other girls are missing? Tonight, how Van Der Sloot sets his traps on line with YouTube, Datingagent.com (ph), trolling bars and casinos and other ploys. Doubling (ph) back, we learn he`s not only a compulsive gambler but compulsive liar and predator, dating all the way back to high school days, Stephany just the latest victim.

Tonight, Van Der Sloot in isolation, angling a free trip home to Aruba in exchange for he location of Natalee`s body. But what about the dead Peruvian girl and the two girls missing from Bogota casinos possibly linked to Van Der Sloot? What, go home to Aruba for a home-cooked meal and a "get out of jail free" card? No!

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Joran Van Der Sloot is a confessed killer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s psychotic.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I took my shirt and put it on her face, pressing hard, until I killed Stephany."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s no emotional connection.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is in solitary confinement. This is for his protection. Not every inmate, as you see, has that liberty to have such solitary confinement. But they are concerned for his security.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He says Flores found something on his laptop tying him to Natalee Holloway`s disappearance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s completely narcissistic...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I couldn`t stay anymore in the scene. There was too much blood in the room."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s all about him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Quote, "I did not want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wants to blame Stephany, that it was her fault, just like he did that with Natalee.

GRACE: Two other girls missing from casinos in Bogota possibly linked to Van Der Sloot.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s extorted money...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... $250,000 for information about the location of Natalee`s Holloway`s remains.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He stole her money.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "She cashed in her chips for money before leaving the casino. After killing her, I took the cards and the money."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cops say he went into a rage and beat her to death.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I opened my e-mail and saw a message that said, `I`m going to kill you, mongoloid,` referring to the Holloway case."

GRACE: If that e-mail doesn`t exist, he`s a cold-blooded killer that killed for money.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, he never wants to take responsibility for what he`s done.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This entitlement is what is going to ultimately bring him down.

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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight. The case against judge`s son Joran Van Der Sloot. We track his movements, criss-crossing South America. Are there more victims? How many other young girls are missing?

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GRACE: Van Der Sloot charged with murder one.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a guy who goes into rages, who just kills when somebody crosses him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can`t speak for what happened that night, but the Joran I know is a good person.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has been a disgusting individual from the very beginning.

JORAN VAN DER SLOOT (through translator): One time, Patrick, it was just like in the movies. This is what she did.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): Shaking?

VAN DER SLOOT (through translator): Yes, very much. So I said to myself (EXPLETIVE DELETED) what is going on?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His repeated confessions, his lies and his confessions about terrible things that he did to Natalee...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he`s a psycho, murderer. And he has to pay.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the cell of Joran Van Der Sloot. They just took him out when we came in. We saw him, but this is where he lives day in and day out as he awaits his trial.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s not the serial killer, sociopath, psychopath you guys -- the media makes him out to be.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There`s no decency in him at all.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s always had a bad reputation.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He had free rein on Aruba. He was allowed to gamble under age.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`d say he had a gambling addiction.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He had credit lines, from what I understand. He could run up tabs in the bars and the casinos.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His life as he knew before, of luxury and travel - - that`s about to end.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right here, some of the most violent felons in Peru are house right beyond that (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It doesn`t look like there were really any restraints on him.

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GRACE: Straight out to Jean Casarez, standing by at the Justice Ministry there in Lima, Peru. That is where Joran Van Der Sloot is being held. Jean has just come out of the jailhouse, and in the last hours has advised us what she observed about seeing Joran Van Der Sloot behind bars. Jean, you even found out who had been visiting him. I`m surprised anyone has visited him.

JEAN CASAREZ, "IN SESSION": That`s right. Well, he`s had two visitors very recently. He`s had a reverend that has flown in from the Netherlands. Now, he told me that he went to see all the other Dutch prisoners in Peru also. But he was there with Joran Van Der Sloot when we were there. And also his attorney has just gone to visit him.

Prison officials say that the plan is to move him into general population sooner than later, and they told me he`s going to have to get a job when he does that -- culinary arts, arts and crafts or work in the bakery.

GRACE: Jean, did you just say culinary art? Did you say that? Did I hear you say Joran Van Der Sloot...

CASAREZ: You did. Yes. And you know why? Because that`s how they term it. That`s what they call it, culinary arts. Look at the video, Nancy. You see the bakery. You see the kitchen. You see culinary arts. That`s what they call it. And the arts and crafts, it`s very sophisticated. They`re making pottery in there.

That is one of the reasons, Nancy, I think they wanted us to go into Castro Castro. They wanted to show us this. This is on the ground level. It`s general population. It`s inmates. Some are convicted felons, but they`ve got jobs, and all of those items are sold. They`re sold at fairs. They`re sold to families. The inmates make money from the sale of their products, and that goes for what they buy that they find in the cells.

GRACE: OK, don`t move a hair, Jean Casarez, live in Peru. I want to go to international attorney Michael Griffith. Michael Griffith -- no, no, no, no, no, Liz! I want to see the bakery. I want to see the culinary arts. Should I believe you, Michael Griffith, or my lying eyes?

MICHAEL GRIFFITH, INTERNATIONAL ATTORNEY: Listen, the last time I was in a Peruvian...

GRACE: You told me how awful it was! It`s a hell hole! But listen, Griffith, I`m not seeing it.

GRIFFITH: Nancy-...

GRACE: That looks like the Culinary Arts Institute in New York.

GRIFFITH: Nancy, this is a show deal. First of all, you don`t get shampoo. You don`t get toilet paper. You don`t get covers. You get big pots the size of hot tubs. I mean, this is some kind of prison show trial. I don`t get it. This is not the same prison that I went to.

GRACE: Do you see those ceramics. Do you see that? I think my grandmother had some of that. Hold on just a moment. Liz, let`s switch it up. Let`s show Griffith the video we got from National Geo that shows jail conditions in Peru. Griffith, do you have a monitor in your studio?

GRIFFITH: I do.

GRACE: Can you see?

GRIFFITH: I see it.

GRACE: OK, Liz, chop, chop! Let`s see the video! Come on, before we go to commercial break! I want to look at the video of jail conditions there in Peru. Now, what you`re about to see is more like what Michael Griffith has described.

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GRACE: Standing by live, Jean Casarez. That`s Lurigancho prison, Peru, from National Geo Channel`s "Inside" airing June 23, 9:00 PM. Joran Van Der Sloot, welcome home!

CASAREZ: We`re going right now into the protective custody unit where Joran Van Der Sloot has been held. They just took him out. We just saw him a minute ago. They transferred him to another area while we come in here. But this is solitary confinement where the only most high-profile defendants and convicted felons house (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "She was on the bed when he hit her with the right elbow with force. And I think her head was backwards and hit the wall. Then she started bleeding. And immediately, I got on top of her, and with both hands, I started to strangle her, keeping her like that for a minute. Then I threw her to the floor, but she was still breathing. So I took the shirt I was still wearing and put it on her face, pressing. I can`t remember how much time, but she stopped breathing and I think that`s how I killed her."

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "What do you do for a living?"

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I have a business in Thailand. I sell pizzas, breads and coffee."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... Joran Van Der Sloot, the man police say confessed to killing 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "At that moment, impulsively, with my right elbow, I hit her in the face exactly on top of the nose."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He became enraged, starting hitting her, attacking her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "There was blood everywhere."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s a very, very dangerous man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I grabbed her from the neck and strangled her for a minute."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her face was bashed in, her neck was broken, her body was bruised from head to toe.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I had blood on my shirt. There was also blood on the bed."

GRACE: Allegedly two-time killer...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... Van Der Sloot being the main suspect in Holloway`s disappearance, 2005, and has now been formally charged in the death of Stephany Flores.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is absolutely brutal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "So I took my shirt and put it on her face"...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is somebody who has a lot of rage...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... "pressing hard"...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This guy is a psychopath.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... "until I killed Stephany" -- Stephany -- Stephany -- Stephany -- Stephany -- Stephany -- Stephany...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I said to the taxi driver, I committed a homicide. I killed a person, and I want to get out of Peru."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sociopaths are manipulative...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "What part of her face and body did you hit?"

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I only hit her once, on to of the nose with my right elbow."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They can tell you what they want...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I didn`t want to do it. The girl intruded into my private life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "What was the real reason why you victimized Stephany?"

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I don`t know. But at that moment, Stephany hit me in the head. I lost control of my actions. I didn`t know what I was doing."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Van Der Sloot calls it an impulsive act.

CASAREZ: This is the cell of Joran Van Der Sloot. They just took him out when we came in.

She hit him, he said, on his left temple.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He wants to blame Stephany, that it was her fault.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ... private investigator calls Van Der Sloot a homicidal maniac.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Is it true, after you killed her, you took her clothes off? Why?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Honestly, I don`t remember. But I think that, in fact, it was after I killed her."

CASAREZ: ... such a gruesome homicide case...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Why did you flee to Chile instead of turning yourself in to Peruvian authorities?"

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I was not thinking clearly. I just wanted to leave the crime scene as quickly as possible and leave the country."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Joran Van Der Sloot was crying when he confessed to 6the murder...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I couldn`t stay anymore on the scene. There was too much blood in the room."

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GRACE: We are taking your calls. Out to Judy in Alabama. Hi, Judy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. Thank you for taking my call.

GRACE: Thank you for calling in, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A number of days ago, we were told that Joran`s family were on their way to Peru. So where`s his mom? And what kind of relationship does he have with her?

GRACE: Good question. Let`s go to Aruba. Standing by, our producer, Rupa Mikkilineni. Rupa, where`s Mommy?

RUPA MIKKILINENI, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Joran Van Der Sloot`s mom is here in Aruba on the island. She`s taking care of Joran Van Der Sloot`s two younger sons -- brothers, excuse me. He has a younger brother who`s only 14 years old, still in school, Nancy. So she`s here handling that. She`s a single mom on her own, a struggling art school teacher. She wants to go visit her son, but she is still here right now in Aruba. She`s retained counsel for her son, as we are hearing tonight. We`re hearing that Mr. Navarro (ph) is the Peruvian counsel, and she is also hiring another attorney whose we don`t know at this time.

GRACE: I want to go back to Jean Casarez and Michael Griffith -- Jean Casarez, legal correspondent, "In Session," who has toured Joran Van Der Sloot`s prison jail cell. Also, Michael Griffith, international attorney who has practiced in Peru.

OK, Liz, I want to see this video that Jean shot herself with her crew in the jailhouse. OK, Michael, you`ve seen it. She`s got the video. Oh, there she goes. Go ahead, Michael.

GRIFFITH: Jean, I think that`s why they put him in Castro Castro, so they can make this big production. Lurigancho is completely different.

CASAREZ: First of all, we were there for three hours. It`s a large facility. We went from room to room to room. We asked them so many times, Can we go up to the cellblocks where we see the people with their legs hanging out and their arms hanging out, four to five people per cell block. They said no. I think they invited us to show us all of this of what they`re doing.

On the other hand, Sunday is Father`s Day. They are doing all these things for Father`s Day celebration. There are signs all over that Sunday is the big celebration for Father`s Day. The inmates made those pastries in there. The inmates do the cooking. You go on the first floor, and there`s all these little markets. There`s video of this. And they sell all the little supplies -- shampoo, deodorant, everything. The inmates take the money from the sale of the products. They go to the little store and they then buy their product that they then take to their cells.

Now, they couldn`t have brought all this stuff in for our visit today. It was too massive an amount of things.

GRACE: Everybody, you`re seeing part of Jean`s tour. But remember, she`s the first one to get access to Castro Castro after weeks of trying, and this is what they chose to show her. They banned her from the rest of the jail.

This weekend marking the four-year search for a murder suspect in the killing of 16-year-old straight-A student thrown away like trash on a Brooklyn Street, Chanel Petro-Nixon vanishing Father`s Day after leaving to find a summer job that afternoon. Four days later, her strangled body found in a garbage bag, her sneakers and cell phone missing. Investigations conclude the 16-year-old may have known her killer. Please look at Chanel -- a $33,000 reward. We have not forgotten. If you have any info, please call Crimestoppers, 800-577-TIPS.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Then I through threw her to the floor, but she was still breathing."

GRACE: He stopped, and she was still breathing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "So I took the shirt I was still wearing and put it on her face, pressing."

GRACE: And then he continued to kill her!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "I can`t remember how much time, but she stopped breathing, and I think that`s how I killed her."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He snapped, as he may have snapped in the Holloway case, as well.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This snap defense I don`t agree with whatsoever. This guy is a psychopath.

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GRACE: We are taking your calls tonight. We track Van Der Sloot`s movements as he criss-crosses South America. How many other missing girls are linked to Van Der Sloot?

Out to you, Clark Goldband. What can you tell me about his movements?

CLARK GOLDBAND, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Nancy, we`ve isolated Van Der Sloot`s YouTube profile, and we believe it`s his profile, and we`ve learned a whole heck of a lot about Van Der Sloot. Here`s what we learned, Nancy. We`ve traced his movements, according to his statement to law enforcement, and it is a wild ride, if it`s to be believed!

First, Nancy, he says he leaves the Hotel Tac, then takes a taxi all the way to Jorge Chavez International Airport, but then thinks he shouldn`t fly out of the country and instead goes to the bus station. From the bus station -- if we advance on to the next screen -- we will see he begins traveling through Peru. He takes multiple taxis and then ends up in Nazca, Peru.

From Nazca, he takes even more cars, privately hired, and ends up in Tacna, Peru, where there is a check for identification at the border. And before long, he crosses over the border into Chile. From Chile -- on the next screen -- we will see Van Der Sloot`s other movements, where he takes that bus right here in Chile all the way down to Antofagasta.

From Antofagasta, Nancy, he claims he flies to Santiago, then spends some time right outside the city in Vasco Da Gama. That`s where, Nancy, he has that coffee with legs (ph) that we`ve spoken about. And finally decides the next day he should turn himself in. He says he goes to the police station, cops say, We don`t know anything about you, says he talks to the taxi driver and the taxi driver says, My uncle works for law enforcement. Calls them. Long story short, Van Der Sloot eventually turned in, in the immigration office, and taken into custody.

GRACE: We also know that prior to going to Peru, he had been in the Netherlands and Thailand, as well as Bogota.

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GRACE: ... a quarter million-dollar scam...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Van Der Sloot indicated a house where Holloway`s remains supposedly were located.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... an initial payment of $10,000, then a transfer of $15,000 to a personal bank account in the Netherlands.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He made arrangements to travel to Peru after he got the money.

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GRACE: We are delving all the way back into Van Der Sloot`s past to discover he is not only a compulsive gambler but a compulsive liar and predator dating all the way back to his high school years.

Out to Aruba and Rupa Mikkilineni standing by.

Rupa, what did you learn about his past there in Aruba?

RUPA MIKKILINENI, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, Nancy, ABC News` "20/20" had an interview with his ex-girlfriend from when Joran Van Der Sloot was only 16 years old. She was 16 as well.

They were in high school. They met in 2003 and they dated seven months. And she has plenty to say, Nancy.

She says that she fell madly in love with him. It was a romance. He was charming, kind, sweet. They wrote a diary together. And then she discovered that he lied to her about being a virgin. And not only that, he had affairs with other girls.

GRACE: Joining us tonight from Washington, D.C., a friend of Joran Van Der Sloot`s, John Ludwick.

Hello, Mr. Ludwick. Thank you for being with us.

JOHN LUDWICK, JORAN VAN DER SLOOT`S FRIEND: Hello again, Nancy.

GRACE: Mr. Ludwick, did you realize when you were e-mailing back and forth with Joran Van Der Sloot that you`re not the only friend he was asking for money?

LUDWICK: No, I did not realize that.

GRACE: How long did you spend with him?

LUDWICK: It was about 2 1/2 months.

GRACE: And you were together almost daily?

LUDWICK: Yes, we were.

GRACE: What was his response when you asked him about Natalee Holloway?

LUDWICK: Well, I didn`t flat out ask him. He spoke to me about it on an evening or after we watched the Natalee Holloway movie, and he told me parts that were true and parts that weren`t, and then after that, he elaborated a little bit.

GRACE: There has been many reports that Van Der Sloot has been in many fights at home in Aruba. Did you witness any?

LUDWICK: I never witnessed any physical confrontations, but on a few occasions, tourists in public would say stuff to him like, why do you make up all these stories, and you know, call him bad names and stuff, and he would just say, you know, it`s my life, it`s my business, leave me alone. And, you know, just a little -- a few verbal words, but nothing -- I mean nothing physical, no.

GRACE: Did you spend most of your time with him in casinos?

LUDWICK: Yes. That`s one of the main things we did. I mean we hung out and went to the beach fishing, watched TV and stuff like that, but the casinos, I mean, that`s what he loved to do. I couldn`t keep him away from that.

GRACE: What do your family and friends have to say about your friendship with Joran Van Der Sloot, a suspected killer?

LUDWICK: Well, they`re not particularly supporting it, but at the time none of them knew. I still support him so -- I mean whenever they --

GRACE: Why?

LUDWICK: I mean he`s always been a good friend to me and most of his friends have turned their back on him, so I`m not going to do that. I`m going to support --

GRACE: What did he do to be a good friend to you?

LUDWICK: We had a lot of fun together. I mean he was always a loyal friend to me. He`s actually a caring guy if you got to know him. I don`t see this other side of him.

GRACE: Alexis Tereszcuk -- Mr. Ludwick, if you take a look at these photos, if you can see them. If you cannot, they are photos of Stephany Tatiana`s clothing and of Joran Van Der Sloot`s clothing. They`re drenched in Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramirez`s blood.

And your so-called fend has admitted to breaking her neck to murdering her, but you are dead set, you`re dug in, on telling me what a great guy he is.

LUDWICK: Yes.

GRACE: Did you ever know of him having a job?

LUDWICK: Not a real job working for someone else. I knew he ran his own business at the coffee shop.

GRACE: What business is that? What coffee shop?

LUDWICK: In Thailand. He had purchased one a few years back.

GRACE: Did he tell you that?

LUDWICK: Yes, he did.

GRACE: Did you see the coffee shop?

LUDWICK: Yes, I`ve seen numerous pictures of it and video inside of it.

GRACE: Photos -- photos of a coffee shop.

OK, to Alexis Tereszcuk. Alexis, explain to me what we`re seeing these photos of bloody clothing?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, REPORTER, RADAROLINE.COM: The photos that you`re seeing, the shirt -- the white shirt is Joran Van Der Sloot`s shirt that he was wearing the night of the murder. He confessed that he suffocated Stephany with it. It is covered in her blood. Officials have told us that the blood does match Stephany.

There are also a pair of her jeans and the Nike shirt she was wearing that night that each are splattered with blood. She was not wearing the jeans when she was found. Also she was not wearing the tennis shoes that were found. But those were both covered with blood which means that the stream -- the splattered blood went all over the room.

It was a really violent crime and it wasn`t just in one place on her body.

GRACE: To Dr. Perper, chief medical examiner of Broward County, author of "When Doctors Kill." That`s his latest book.

Dr. Perper, the degree of force necessary to break this woman`s neck is immense.

DR. JOSHUA PERPER, MEDICAL EXAMINER, AUTHOR OF "WHEN TO CALL THE DOCTOR": Well, it`s a very significant one because you are dealing with a young person who has quite elastic bones and elastic spine, so it requires a great deal of force to twist the neck and break her spine, and the amount of blood in the room just verifies the degree of violence.

Because it`s splattered blood, it`s not just blood, which was -- which came from sweeping or trying to clean an area. That splattering indicating there was blood that just was flying in the room.

GRACE: Sheryl McCollum, crime analyst, director of the Cold Case Squad, Pine Lake, P.D. Analyze what we know about the crime scene.

SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST, DIR. OF COLD CASE SQUAD AT PINE LAKE P.D.: This was a horrific scene. He did not hit her once. He hit her multiple times. The blood went around the room.

They`re going to be able to look at the trajectory, see where he was standing when he was hitting her, whether or not they`ve got a cast off a pattern to see if he had hit her with an object and blood was flying off of that.

They`re going to be able to see prints if there`s a transfer print with his hands were in the blood, if he touched other objects. This is going to be a situation where they can recreate it.

Nancy, that`s the reason they did not need Mr. Van Der Sloot to walk them back through what happened. They can tell what happened.

GRACE: What about it, Pat Brown?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER, AUTHOR OF "KILLING FOR SPORT": It`s a very good point there. I think they`re going to know what happened and it isn`t going to be his story.

I still think that this was a forced oral sex act gone wrong, and when -- I think she bit him and I think that`s what -- she was raped. Boom. Nailed her right in the nose because he was so furious about what happened.

GRACE: To Eleanor Odom, felony prosecutor, death penalty prosecutor. Eleanor, how does that jibe with evidence that we have received that she was gay?

ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: Well, it doesn`t necessarily jibe with it, but you can look, and I think they did examine Joran Van Der Sloot`s body to see if there were any marks on him and if she had tried to bite him, you would see that type of mark.

If she had tried to scratch him or anything like that, you`d see his skin cells under her fingernails. So those are things that can be verified with the physical evidence.

Nancy, physical evidence doesn`t lie. It doesn`t change. It speaks the truth.

GRACE: How do you fight with that, Peter Odom?

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, the brutality that is evident in this crime scene really supports the defense that Joran Van Der Sloot is trying to set up in his confession.

I lost control, I became enraged, I became -- I became out of control. That`s really what he`s trying to do in his confession, and the more people talk about how brutal it is, the better it looks for him.

GRACE: Renee?

RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I agree with Peter because, Nancy, what he`s looking at is a range between 15 and 35 -- 15 on the bottom end, 15 years if he can convince the tribunal that this was something that he immediately was provoked into for whatever reason, instead of a premeditated act which would get him 35.

If he`s doing 15, 50 percent of 15 years, that 7 1/2 looks a lot better --

GRACE: OK, yes --

ROCKWELL: -- than all of 35.

GRACE: You know, Renee, that`s BS. Everything that you and Odom just said.

Bethany Marshall, why is it BS?

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": Well, I think Joran Van Der Sloot is the ultimate thief. I think that`s the motivation. I think he wanted to take whatever he could from Stephany. He wanted to take her money, he wanted to take her sexual dignity, and ultimately, he wanted to take her life.

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GRACE: Straight back to Jean Casarez joining us live in Lima. You know, Jean, you were the one that toured the jail. You were the one that went in Joran Van Der Sloot`s jail cell. You were the one that observed Van Der Sloot in the last hours.

I want to hear all of your observations.

JEAN CASAREZ, CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION", TOURED JORAN VAN DER SLOOT`S PRISON CELL: You know, Nancy, it was a scary place. It was very scary. We saw inmates in the kitchen. They`re using knives in there. They`re cutting onions, they`re cutting the meat. Big pots were cooking the food that everyone was going to eat.

These are the inmates that are doing that. And they walk around in their street clothes with their pockets, in their pants, in their shirts. Sure, weapons could be in there. It was a scary place. But also they talk about -- and you saw they had the pottery, they have all the jobs for the prisoners, and it`s such open access, so to go in and say that it`s cushy, you know, there were things that were shocking and surprising.

That`s right, that you could say things would be much more stringent in the United States, but the environment, it was different, and I would be scared if I was a prisoner there.

GRACE: Jean, tell me about the population -- the prison population. How many people are there? What is their day like?

CASAREZ: It`s 1600 people that are there but the prison was built for 700, so the overcrowding is immense. And if you look at Joran Van Der Sloot`s cell, he`s in there by himself, all right? That`s probably a two- person type of cell. So if you take that and you double it, and you put five to six people in there, that`s the population on the upper levels that they wouldn`t let us see.

GRACE: So, Jean, when you observed Van Der Sloot, where was he going to and from?

CASAREZ: Well, he -- they made him leave because they were going to bring us in. So we were standing there, he walks by because they were taking him out of his cell to put him in an office building so we would go in, and that`s when we went in and they let us go straight into that cell and look at everything that was in there.

And, Nancy, I think the reason that the Dutch books were there and the bible was there, the reverend had just gone in to visit him, so my guess is that he brought him those books from the Netherlands.

GRACE: That`s an astute observation.

Jean, another thing I wanted to ask you about, when you`re talking about the reverend had been there, I want to find out about a guy that you interviewed that you talked to from L.A. -- Los Angeles -- who has been waiting how long for a drug trial, and did they get visitors the way Joran Van Der Sloot has?

CASAREZ: That`s right. He was in general population on the first floor. He`s from Los Angeles, spoke great English. He has been charged with actually driving drug dealers as they perpetuated their drug offenses.

He said that he`s been in there for so long, that things take so much longer than the U.S. He said he`s been in L.A. jails also and things went so quickly. But here, he said I`ve just been in here, it`s just not getting done, not getting done. He knows he`s going to have to spend a long time, but what`s interesting was how long the process takes.

GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. Eleanor Odom, Atlanta, Renee Rockwell, defense attorney, Atlanta, Peter Odom, Atlanta.

Weigh in, Eleanor.

E. ODOM: You know, we keep hearing about his so-called confession and he said he wanted to be a lion? Well, he`s lying all right, because everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie. So what the authorities need to do is match up his confession with the physical evidence and go for that, and pick what you can out of his confession that might be true.

GRACE: Peter?

P. ODOM: I -- I have to say that I`m quite surprised that the authorities in Peru are trying this sham of -- trying to play this prison up as being such a cushy place, Nancy.

GRACE: Well, I mean, Jean saw straight through it. She saw everything.

E. ODOM: And it`s -- and it`s really quite -- and it`s really quite transparent and the world is going to see through this. That is an absolutely brutal place.

GRACE: Renee?

ROCKWELL: And I don`t think he`ll be there long, Nancy, because I think that they`re going to go pretty quickly to this trial or whatever proceeding they`re going to have.

GRACE: Right.

ROCKWELL: But Nancy, I understand that the attorney is trying to get the confession canceled or thrown out or not considered. I think that`s a bad strategic move because what he needs to do is to go in there and show that it was a provoked incident and I think he would get less time.

GRACE: Right.

Very quickly, everybody, switching gears. I want to go to our friend, Rita Cosby, about Quiet Hero.

Rita, I know who the quiet hero is, but our viewers do not.

RITA COSBY, AUTHOR, "QUIET HERO: SECRETS FROM MY FATHER`S PAST": Nancy, you know, it`s my father, and I`ve just learned this in the last year. It`s been the most incredible story of my life, Nancy, and thank you for having me on to talk about it.

Because, you know, I`ve done so many stories and so many interviews over the years, and I didn`t know my father and I didn`t even know my own past until this last year. And I`ve learned what an incredible hero my father is and it`s such a perfect gift for Father`s Day right around the corner.

But my father was a war hero. My father fought on the front lines against the Nazis when he was a teenager.

And you know what`s amazing, Nancy, you always talk about standing up for what you believed in. My father, at a really early age, could have left. He is not Jewish and his family said we can maybe buy you out, we can somehow get you out of the country. And he said, no, I would rather die with friends than live with strangers. I am staying and fighting.

And my father was then taken, you know, prisoner. He was in a prisoner of war camp. He was there for six months. And at 90 pounds and 6 feet tall, Nancy, he escaped. And talk about the courage and the guts. And he was out there in the woods and suddenly a plane came by, and he was on a little country road and he was with other prisoners and -- you know, desperate at that point.

And a plane came by ask. They thought it was a German plane. And it turned out to be an American plane. And it was a chocolate bar that was thrown out with a note wrapped around it with a red ribbon. And the note, Nancy, it said, "Welcome, you are safe to walk now during daytime. You have 15 miles to walk and you`re free."

And then my father was saved by American troops so, to me, on this Father`s Day, it`s going to be a very special Father`s Day to be able to give back and say thank you. Not just my quiet hero but everybody, Nancy.

GRACE: I`m going to get this for my father. He`s also a World War veteran.

I am looking at the back, Dr. Henry Kissinger, General Tommy Franks, Lech Walesa. I`m so knocked out by you, Rita.

Everyone, Rita Crosby, "Quiet Hero," just in time for Father`s Day.

God bless you, Rita. And now, CNN Heroes.

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PONHEARY LY, CNN HERO: In the countryside in Cambodia, some children, they come to school, but not very regular because the family needs to have them in the farm.

The school is free but they don`t have any money. How can they have the money for uniform and supplies?

My name is Ponheary Ly. I help the children to go to school. The education is important for me because my father was a teacher.

During the Khmer Rouge time, my father was killed. If we tried to study, we could be killed.

My soul, always go to school.

At the beginning I got only one girl. After that, 40 children and now 2,000. After several years, I see the change because they know how to read and write and they borrow the books from our library to read for their parents.

I need them to have a good education, to build their own family as well as to build their own country.

My father, he has to be proud of me here, in heaven and in my heart.

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GRACE: What a week in America`s courtrooms. Take a look at the stories and more important, the people who touched our lives.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: On May 30th at 2:00, I was playing poker at a table with several people. Stephany Flores came by and started to play.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very dramatic confession.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A confession.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The search continues for a missing Oregon boy, but it`s shifting to a criminal investigation.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Kyron`s stepmom brought him to school Friday morning, took this picture of him at Skyline science fair and last saw Kyron near his classroom at about 8:45.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: An impulsive act.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was an impulsive act after I received the hit in the head.

CASAREZ: She had hit me, says, on his left temple.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: And he took his right elbow and hit her in her nose.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Kyron never made it to class after his school science fair on June 4th. From that particular point, he did not show up to his first class.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re in the process of conducting and completing a secondary canvas of the neighborhood.

CASAREZ: Getting really close to Castro Castro. This is the cell of Joran Van Der Sloot. They just took him out so we could come in here. This is where he lives day in and day out at Castro Castro. This is a very specialized, high-profile unit, protective custody. There`s only 10 cells in here. Only two are occupied.

This is Joran Van Der Sloot`s. This is his clothes. Remember, you saw him on television in these clothes? He still has them here. Here are his pants. And over here, here`s his bed. A lot of books. A few religious books.

I see toothpaste. I see the bible right there. I see books that are written in Dutch. And then over here, he has his own bathroom. As we`ve heard, it is a hole in the ground. He`s got running water. He`s got a sink.

But this is where Joran Van Der Sloot -- this is where Joran Van Der Sloot stays. And when we leave, they`re going to bring him back right here as he awaits trial here at Castro Castro.

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GRACE: Tonight, let`s stop and remember Marine Corporal David "Bear" Stewart, 24, (INAUDIBLE), Louisiana, killed Iraq on a second tour. Awarded the Purple Heart, two Navy and Marine Corps Achievement medals.

Loved the Louisiana swamps, fishing, hunting, country, family. Leaves behind grieving parents Sandra and Joey, brother Jason, sister Joanna. His beloved dog Boot.

David "Bear" Stewart, American hero.

Thanks to our guest, but especially you for being with us. And a special good night from the New York control room.

Good night, Brett, Liz, oh, where`s squeaky? There she is. Oh, she`s smiling. Dana.

Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.

And tonight happy Father`s Day to all of you fathers out there and to a special father. Matt Grace.

He worked over 30 years on the railroad to put me through college and law school. Taught me how to dance and put braces on my teeth.

Happy Father`s day, Dad.

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