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NANCY GRACE

Misty Croslin Jailhouse Audio and Videotapes to Be Released

Aired February 2, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Satsuma, Florida, a 5- year-old girl tucked into bed, five hours later, she`s gone. Daddy comes home from the night shift to find not a trace of little Haleigh. Last person to see her alive, new stepmother, 18-year-old Misty Croslin, who takes to the airwaves to claim she`s innocent. But even in one brief interview, Croslin can`t keep her story straight, including a 180 on a lie detector she flunked.

Bombshell tonight: After Haleigh`s father, Ronald Cummings, and baby- sitter-turned-stepmother Misty Croslin, both handcuffed, arrested, booked, Cummings talks first, and tonight we learn stepmother Misty Croslin does the same. As we go to air, we discover jailhouse tapes, video and audio, hours and hours of Misty Croslin yak, yak, yakking away, including an hour- long visit with Mommy and Daddy, all caught on video. Croslin already cracking behind bars, ratting out her own brother on a felony. Police convinced Croslin the key in Haleigh`s disappearance. And after 12 days in isolation, little Haleigh`s dad moved to another facility. But why?

Tonight, as the pressure mounts, where is the 5-year-old girl with the big brown eyes? Where is Haleigh?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jailhouse recordings set to be released at any moment, Misty Croslin and her relatives, up to five hours of tapes set to be released. What clues could they contain?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me ask you one thing. What`s your relationship with Misty?

RONALD CUMMINGS, HALEIGH`S FATHER: There really isn`t a relationship. You know, just I guess ex-wife-slash-friend.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If convicted on all six drug charges, Misty could be looking at a 150-year prison sentence. Lawyers say if she knows anything about what happened to Haleigh, now might be a good time to talk.

MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH`S BABY-SITTER: I`ve been the one, the main focus. They just need to move on and look for the right person.

CUMMINGS: If I find whoever has my daughter before y`all do, I`m killing him. I don`t care. I`ll spend the rest of my life in prison. I`m telling you, you can put it on recording. I don`t care.

Same thing I said on the 911 call.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Well, I just want to make sure.

CUMMINGS: I`m telling you, I ain`t changed my mind, not a bit!

CROSLIN: That`s all I know, is when I woke up -- when I went to sleep, she was there. And when I woke up, she was gone!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even though law enforcement says Misty Croslin won`t reveal what more she knows about Haleigh, Croslin squeals on her own brother, telling cops he stole items, including a 12-gauge shotgun, a bottle of Captain Morgan, five mini-bottles of Jim Beam, a bottle of Softsoap, two bottles of Dawn dish liquid and "Harry Potter" DVDs. Tommy Croslin could now be facing life in prison on new charges of burglary and grand theft.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight. After Haleigh`s father, Ronald Cummings, and baby-sitter-turned-stepmother Misty Croslin both handcuffed, arrested, booked, Cummings talks first. And tonight, we learn stepmother Misty Croslin does the same. As we go to air, we discover jailhouse tapes, video and audio, hours of Misty Croslin yakking away, including an hour-long visit with Mommy and Daddy, all caught on video.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Law enforcement expected to release jailhouse recordings of Misty Croslin from behind bars, the tapes said to include extensive conversations between Misty Croslin and her parents. Did Misty know law enforcement was rolling? What details might she divulge?

CUMMINGS: Well, of course I want to know if she knows anything, what she does know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s well over $2,000 in pills that police say Misty Cummings and her crew were selling. According to these police reports, Misty told the undercover officer that she was freaked out because it`s a lot of money, it`s a lot of pills, and she didn`t want to get into trouble. But she did.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... a total of five counts of trafficking hydrocodone...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She`s sitting in jail. Investigators have her on drug charges. Could they use this case as leverage with the hope of getting information about the disappearance of 6-year-old Haleigh?

911 OPERATOR: 911. What`s your emergency?

CROSLIN: I just woke up and our back door was all open, and we can`t find our daughter.

911 OPERATOR: Can`t find what?

CROSLIN: Our daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Police say Misty was the last person to see the 6-year-old. They have always accused her of not telling them everything about what happened that night.

CROSLIN: If I had something to do with it, I knew where she was, we wouldn`t be sitting here today. We would have her.

CUMMINGS: When I find out, if I found out before the police, it`s going to be done for them, done dealing. I`ll have the satisfaction of knowing that I got the person who stole my daughter from me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tommy Croslin now facing additional charges, including grand theft, that could put him behind bars for life. Why? Law enforcement says Misty Croslin squealed behind bars on her own brother. So why won`t she tell cops what she allegedly knows about the night Haleigh vanished?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Straight out to Art Harris, investigative journalist at Artharris.com. Art, you`ve just gotten off the phone with Croslin`s -- Misty Croslin`s father and sister-in-law, what can you tell me?

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: I can tell you that Misty is behind bars, Nancy, and she is scared. Her father told me that she doesn`t know what to do. She has been getting squeezed by detectives in the case - - the Haleigh case, not the drug case -- and they want to know what she knows. They have been dangling names in front of her, wanting her to identify certain unnamed people. And she has not given up anything yet. But they will...

GRACE: OK, wait a minute! Whoa, whoa, whoa, wa-wait, wa-wait! Don`t lose me. Art Harris, police are dangling names in front of her? OK, her story all along has been she was there at the home alone...

HARRIS: Asleep.

GRACE: ... with the 5-year-old little girl, Haleigh, and the little boy even younger, Junior, Ronald Cummings, Jr., that they were asleep. Her story got twisted up as to which bed they were in, and so forth. And the next thing she knows, she wakes up to go to the bathroom, and ruh-roh! The baby girl is gone. She didn`t hear a thing. She didn`t see a thing. She doesn`t know a thing. So what other names are there to dangle in front of her?

HARRIS: Nancy, that is the $64,000 question in Satsuma. Who are these people police are dangling? Now, we don`t know. Are they the people who could have been in her dream that night she woke up and said that she remembered those four shadowy figures in the trailer? We don`t know that. We just know that she has heard some names, and she`s not talking.

GRACE: OK. To you, Marlaina Schiavo. What more can you tell me?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, I can tell you, Nancy, that, I mean, she`s not saying anything about the night that Haleigh went missing, but she has no problem telling the police that her brother stole DVDs from their neighbor. Now, we -- the question here is, was she really at home that night, something we asked before. But also, with these drug charges, this goes back to was she possibly passed out the night that Haleigh went missing and she might not even know what to tell police at this point?

GRACE: We are taking your calls live tonight. As we go to air, we discover secret jailhouse tap tapes, audio and video, of stepmother, former baby-sitter Misty Croslin, hours and hours of her yakking away.

Back to you, Art Harris. Everybody, we`re taking your calls live. Art, she is talking hours on end to who? Who`s visiting her, and who`s she talking to?

HARRIS: Well, the last visit, Nancy, several days ago was with her parents, an hour visit. They split it up into 30 minutes each. Lisa Croslin, her mother, had 30, then her father, Hank Croslin, Sr. And her brother, Tommy, got a visit from his wife, Lindsay (ph). So that`s the other angle...

GRACE: Don`t care about Tommy Croslin unless he can tell me something that Misty Croslin has blurted out during one of her drug-fueled nights on the town.

HARRIS: (INAUDIBLE) he can.

GRACE: Art, so all of these people are visiting. Is it one on one? Are they across the table? Is there plasti-glass (ph) between them? Is it via Skype, Internet? How does it work?

HARRIS: I believe it is through a telephone and in a different location than the actual inmate, Nancy. That`s how they have it set up there.

GRACE: OK, wait a minute. So what you`re telling me is the visitors are at, for instance, a visitor center in a different building?

HARRIS: That`s my understanding.

GRACE: And they can talk on a phone?

HARRIS: Yes.

GRACE: Can they see each other?

HARRIS: I think they can. That`s -- that`s -- so there is video, or there is video of each person talking. But I`m told they can see each other because there was a very emotional connection (INAUDIBLE)

GRACE: That`s my understanding. Marlaina, have you seen the setup? How does it work there? What I`m getting at, Marlaina, is it`s more likely for somebody to get the truth out of her sitting there with her than somebody in a visitor center three miles away, talking on a phone via Skype.

SCHIAVO: Well, her attorney can sit with her and he`s the only person that can sit with her actually in the prison where she is, or the jail where she is. The visitation, though, Nancy, is a Webcam, so she can only speak through a phone and a Webcam.

GRACE: People, people, let the parents go in and visit! Let them hold hands! Let them hug! Let them cry. Maybe she`ll tell the truth.

Out to the lines. Jessie, Kentucky. Hi, Jessie. I think I`ve got Jessie in Kentucky. I certainly can hear you.

OK. Let`s try Melody in Ohio. Hi, Melody.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy.

GRACE: Hi, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is, for God`s sake, the money that they were using to spend on these drugs, why did not Ronald Cummings put that money towards the reward money, for God`s sakes?

GRACE: You know, interesting question. How much money are we talking about, Art Harris?

HARRIS: We`re talking about $4,000 worth of drugs that they sold. So this was cash in their hands, supposedly, Nancy.

GRACE: OK, Art, very quickly -- we`ve only got less than a minute left. All of these hours of Misty Croslin talking on video, how are we getting our hands on it? How is it that we are getting it?

HARRIS: The St. John`s County sheriff`s department has been taking these recordings, and they are now being reviewed by the case detectives in Putnam County. They`re redacting them. Tomorrow, we expect, Nancy, to get a DVD of the Misty tapes.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SCHIAVO: Yes, I do have a message for whoever has taken Haleigh. I would ask that you please, please bring my daughter home. She`s not yours. It`s not property. You know, it`s not something that you just take and say, It`s mine, or whatever. This is my daughter. This is blood, and I would like to have my daughter back, please. Please bring my daughter home.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CROSLIN: I wish that they would have took me instead of her, you know, because I could have fought. You know, she`s only 5. She can`t really do anything.

CUMMINGS: How (EXPLETIVE DELETED) could you let my daughter get stole, (EXPLETIVE DELETED)!

CROSLIN: I don`t know where she is!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was a 16-year-old child whose job was to look after somebody else`s two young children. And I can only imagine that this girl would want to get out and have some fun of some kind.

CROSLIN: I loved her like she`s my own, and I`ll do anything to get her back!

CUMMINGS: Well, of course, I want to know if she knows anything, what she does know.

We need to find my daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think Misty holds some information that could help do that?

CUMMINGS: I don`t think that she holds any information that`s going to find Haleigh.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Misty`s brother was taken from his jail cell to be questioned by police. That`s when deputies say Croslin`s brother told them it looked like no one was home that night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He tells police that he banged on the door and he got no answer. He looked inside through the windows, saw no lights, no television, did not hear a sound.

CROSLIN: I would have woke up if I heard any noise, and I didn`t hear anything at all.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That front door is all but 10 feet from the bedroom where Misty was sleeping with Haleigh and Junior that night. So if someone`s whaling on the door, there`s no way she couldn`t have heard that whatsoever.

CUMMINGS: It`s hard to believe that she don`t know more, but it`s also hard to believe that if she did know more, she ain`t already talked, you know?

GRACE: Do you believe she left the home and left the children alone, Ronald?

CUMMINGS: Absolutely not.

I want to get to the bottom of what happened.

One way or another, I want my daughter to come home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who told you that? I mean, was it somebody you...

CUMMINGS: I don`t know who it was.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It wasn`t any of the detectives that you knew?

CUMMINGS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But they haven`t come to you and said, OK, Ron, let`s sit down and talk about what you`ve heard from Misty or what you heard from anybody else outside, now that you`re in jail, we got you here, you might as well tell us everything you know?

CUMMINGS: No.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They haven`t done that?

CUMMINGS: No, because they already know that. They all know. If I find out before them, they`ll know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

CUMMINGS: I mean, they won`t have to question me. They know that. Otherwise, I`m sure they would have already sat me down and questioned me hour upon hour upon hour. But they already know the answer does not lie with me. And the answer to the question that you`re asking me is, yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: And that`s the tip of the iceberg. Tonight, we learn that there are hours upon hours of jailhouse videotape secretly recorded of girlfriend-turned-stepmother Misty Croslin, the last person to see little Haleigh alive. She acts (ph) for hours with various visitors, including her mommy and daddy. And let`s remember there is no mommy/daddy privilege, like priest/petitioner or husband/wife, attorney/client privilege. Nothing they say will be kept out of court.

Let`s unleash the lawyers. We`re taking your calls live. Joining us tonight, family law attorney Sue Moss out of New York, defense attorney Raymond Giudice, Atlanta, defense attorney Peter Odom, also out of the Atlanta jurisdiction.

Weigh in, Sue Moss.

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: We`re going to get these tapes, but she`s not talking to Mom about her legal pursuits when the entire family is wearing orange jumpsuits. I mean, each one of these people would fall (INAUDIBLE) and quicker to get each -- the other in trouble in order to make a deal. So I don`t expect much.

GRACE: Giudice?

RAYMOND GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Here`s what she knows. She knows who has sold her 340-some-odd oxycodone pills. Now, we all agree that this didn`t start the day before. They`ve been using these medications, these prescription drugs, for a long time. The dealers know something about what happened to the child. That`s what she`s sitting on.

GRACE: Well, Peter Odom, even if she claims she can`t remember anything but going to sleep that night -- I guess so. After popping a lot of oxycodone, I`d go to sleep, too. But even if that`s best-case scenario, I`d want to know who she is with -- who she was with in the hours leading up to that. We know for three days before she came back to the home, she had been out on a binge...

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Right.

GRACE: ... AWOL...

ODOM: Right.

GRACE: ... missing for three straight days. And you know she was drugged out to the max by the time she washed up back at the home.

ODOM: No question about it, Nancy. The position that she`s in, though, is that the police want her to implicate herself in a murder, when she`s only facing drug charges now. And frankly, she`d be foolish to do that, and she`s too savvy to do it.

GRACE: To Marc Klaas, president and founder of Klaas Kids Foundation. We are waiting on the release of these jailhouse videotapes. They`re about to be released at any moment. As soon as we get them, we`re playing them right here. We already have some of them, which we are playing. Now hours on end of girlfriend-baby-sitter-turned-stepmother Misty Croslin -- police say she`s the key to the case. What about it, Marc Klaas?

MARC KLAAS, KLAAS KIDS FOUNDATION: Well, I don`t think she`s too savvy to be sitting on anything or to be holding anything back, quite frankly. I think this is a poor, scared little girl who would willingly turn over any information she had if she thought it could bring little Haleigh home at this time.

But the problem with her is, is that drugs have ruled her life and ruined her life, and there`s probably not much left there to work with. If there is, it`s going to take a long stay in prison and some rehabilitation to bring it out.

GRACE: BS! And I`ve never said BS to you, Marc Klaas. But this girl knows who she was with in the hours leading up to that kidnap. She also had this dream of four men.

KLAAS: Oh, yes.

GRACE: It`s not a dream, it happened...

KLAAS: Sure, it happened.

GRACE: ... in the home the night Haleigh goes missing!

KLAAS: I agree completely. Absolutely, it happened.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what would you do? I mean...

CUMMINGS: With what?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With that person.

CUMMINGS: Kill them. Same thing I said on the 911 call.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Well, I just want to make sure...

CUMMINGS: I`m telling you I ain`t changed my mind, not a bit!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, what did they ask you about her, or what did they say to you, just that they -- I mean, is that all they said?

CUMMINGS: Yes, that`s it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Misty`s mom says that Misty got a tattoo.

CUMMINGS: She did, but it ain`t got nothing to do with me, man.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She got your name.

CUMMINGS: Hey, I didn`t tell her to do that. You don`t see her name tattooed on me, do you?

(LAUGHTER)

CUMMINGS: Hey, man, with age comes wisdom. I`m not 18 years old no more. I might have done that when I was 18. The only two women that are tattooed on me is Haleigh and my mama, and that`s it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: We are taking your calls live. To Marc Harrold, former cop with the Atlanta PD, joining us now from New York. Thank you for being with us, Marc. What`s all the chit-chat? Is that to loosen up the individual, so finally, they`ll say something worth listening to?

MARC HARROLD, FORMER POLICE OFFICER, ATLANTA PD: Yes, I...

GRACE: I don`t care about tattoos.

HARRIS: I don`t care about tattoos, either. You know, this is one of those things -- you have to look at this thing in the prism of it`s still a missing person case. They`re not just collecting evidence for a completed crime that they want to get into court. And so they are doing whatever they can within the bounds of the law to dangle what they can, to give whatever leverage they can to find a way to find out what she knows.

Now, I don`t believe she`s savvy at all, but I do believe she knows something. And they`re having to do this. There`s a certain amount of exigency to this case because it`s not just a case that`s going to trial to package up, you`re still trying to find this girl and hope she`s alive.

GRACE: Out to the lines. Juanita, Oregon. Hi, Juanita.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi.

GRACE: Hi, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I was kind of troubled about a statement that I`d heard from the jailhouse interview with Ronald. He mentioned something, when they were talking about kidnapping and the people or whatever, he said "those two." And then he went on to something else.

GRACE: You know, I didn`t catch that, Juanita.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That kind of bothered me.

GRACE: I did not catch that. Yes, "those two."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He said, "those two."

GRACE: What about it, Marlaina Schiavo? Do you recall that? Did we possibly miss that?

SCHIAVO: You know, Nancy, I did not catch him saying "those two." The only thing that we heard him say was that he was willing to go to any lengths and even get the death penalty if he finds out who did it.

GRACE: You know what? To you, Juanita in Oregon. We will comb the transcripts tonight and find what you`re talking about.

To Doreen in Minnesota. Hi, dear.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. Hey, I have a question about that cinderblock that was placed in the back door. Do you know if they ever did some touch DNA on that to get some cells off that rough surface?

GRACE: What about it? Do we know, Marlaina Schiavo? Didn`t they test the cinderblock?

SCHIAVO: They did. They took it into evidence, and they never came back with anything after that. Even the door they took, and they never came back with anything.

GRACE: And very quickly, Marc Harrold, if you could explain touch DNA?

HARROLD: Well, anytime a human being touches certain surfaces, or most surfaces, there`s some transfer. And if they can get DNA off the skin cells, then it could be incriminating. But I don`t know if they found anything or not, but I knew they took the cinderblock.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Ronald, even behind bars, facing a lot of jail time, possibly, that he will still only talk about Haleigh. He says, to this moment, he has not changed his mind. If he finds the person that killed Haleigh, he will kill that person. He doesn`t care what kind of jail time he will face. He doesn`t care if it even offers up the death penalty. It`s worth it to him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The undercover officers with Putnam County Sheriff`s Department heard Misty was dealing, that they could get drugs from her, and they called and asked if she could deliver.

JUDGE CHARLES TINLIN, ST. JOHNS COUNTY JAIL: How old are you?

MISTY CROSLIN, HALEIGH CUMMINGS` BABYSITTER, LAST SEEN HALEIGH: Just turned 18.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: They have her behind bars again and they do intend on questioning her again about Haleigh`s disappearance.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: When did you last see her?

CROSLIN: We just like, you know, it was 10:00. She was sleeping.

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST; FMR. D.C. POLICE DET., FBI TERRORISM TASK FORCE: We know all along that Misty was the last one to see Haleigh -- allegedly the last one to see her alive. She knows more than what she has been telling. So hopefully, hopefully, this will put a little bit more pressure on her to say, OK, what more do you know?

CROSLIN: I`m trying to do everything to find her, you know. Answer any questions I have to. I don`t know where she is.

BROOKS: What does Ronald know in this, too?

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: But they haven`t come to you and said, OK, Ron, let`s sit down and talk about what you heard from Misty or what you heard from anybody else outside now that you`re in jail we`ve got you here. You might as well tell us everything you know.

RONALD CUMMINGS, FATHER OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: Nope.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

NANCY GRACE, HOST: And we learn that, as part of her hours on video and audiotape, baby sitter turned stepmother Misty Croslin ratted out her own brother on felony charges.

Out to you, Art Harris. As part of her talking to investigators, she ratted out her own brother?

ART HARRIS, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST, WWW.ARTHARRIS.COM, JUST SPOKE WITH MISTY`S FAMILY: Nancy, this just goes to show you that in Satsuma -- or at least in this family -- blood is thinner than water, and that Misty had no loyalty at all within a heartbeat of being incarcerated she told them about Tommy, that there were certain items in the home that she did not recognize and that Tommy had stolen.

Suddenly they match that up with a neighbor`s theft report. They search the house, they ask his wife, and voila, there are towels. There are also DVDs of "Harry Potter". There`s a Game Boy, things that Tommy had allegedly stolen from next door. So she is not loyal in the least.

GRACE: But what did she feel she could gain, Art Harris, by ratting out the brother for stealing, what, some Captain Morgan and some dish washing detergent? Who cares?

HARRIS: Nancy, as the officers tell me in this case, you cannot ascribe rational thought processes to the people in this case. If she thought perhaps that she might get a decade or two lopped off of her drug trafficking sentence that could be looming, if convicted, perhaps that was racing through her mind.

But she is a very, very frightened about the drug case. That`s what her family told me tonight.

GRACE: Well, I guess she should be. I know she`s frightened. You know I understand that. But I don`t care. All I want to find out is where this girl is and what became of little Haleigh.

And I want to go to Marlaina. Why is stealing a bottle of Captain Morgan and some "Harry Potter" DVDs -- how does that get you life behind bars?

MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: Well, he also was allegedly -- he allegedly stole a gun, Nancy, so if you steal a gun in the process of another crime, that`s a felony and that can get you life in prison.

GRACE: We are taking your calls live. To Pauline in Massachusetts. Hi, dear.

PAULINE, CALLER FROM MASSACHUSETTS: Hi, Nancy. Love your show and respect and admire you so much for keeping this alive.

GRACE: Thank you.

PAULINE: My question is, are these people perhaps in a drug deal and that they have given away Misty in lieu of the money that they owe and are now trying to recover that money?

GRACE: Excellent question. Unleash the lawyers, Sue Moss, Ray Giudice, Peter Odom.

You know, Ray, I hear this kidnap for ransom, sold for a drug debt, drug dealer stole the baby to get back at the father. That hardly ever happens. I don`t know that it`s ever happened.

RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It really only happens in the big narco industry in Mexico and in some places where killing isn`t.

GRACE: You mean in the movies?

GIUDICE: No. It happens in some places, Nancy.

GRACE: OK.

GIUDICE: Arizona is the kidnapping capital of the United States because of the drug trade. So it does happen. Does it happen when people are dealing in small amounts of oxycodone in trailer parks. The answer is most likely not. I agree with you.

GRACE: What about it, Peter Odom?

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I agree with Ray. These aren`t -- I mean, these aren`t high-end drug dealers by any means. I think it`s far more likely that Misty just wasn`t there the night that this child was abducted.

GRACE: Well, you know what? Put them back up. Put both of these lawyers, these defense attorneys back up, Odom and Giudice.

Sue Moss, while the two defense attorneys are -- laughing it off as penny Annie drug dealing, you know, it might have been 2,000 here, 800 there, but somebody is supplying them. Somebody with a lot of drugs.

There`s a distributor in the mix somewhere. There`s a manufacturer in the mix somewhere. Somewhere there`s a doctor or a dentist writing scripts out the ying yang. All right? Somebody`s looking at a lot of hard jail time.

But the likelihood, Sue Moss, that they would come down to Satsuma, Florida, and steal the little girl out of the home, unlikely.

SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY & CHILD ADVOCATE: Well, that`s true. But mark my words, drugs has something to do with this crime. Unfortunately, it`s going to take a lot more prison jerky to get her to start talking turkey.

GRACE: To Dr. Lillian Glass, psychologist, body language expert, author of "Toxic People." Welcome, Dr. Lillian.

Lillian, let`s talk about the dream because that has intrigued me from the moment I heard it. She`s saying -- Misty Croslin saying, I don`t know anything. I pray to God she mentions this in these videotapes. We`re waiting on as we go to air tonight. I had this dream where four guys were in the home the night Haleigh goes missing.

Well, isn`t that a coincidence? Lillian, how much of a dream is that?

LILLIAN GLASS, PSYCHOLOGIST, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT, AUTHOR OF "TOXIC PEOPLE": It`s quite a reality. It`s not a dream.

GRACE: Remember when O.J. Simpson had a "dream" about somebody killing his wife?

GLASS: Exactly.

GRACE: That somebody would be him?

GLASS: Exactly. She knows so much. And I could tell this early on. We saw her body language with so many tales of deception.

GRACE: Like what?

GLASS: From the lip licking to the shoulder shrugging to the monotone voice, to the defiance, the repetition of words. We saw so many tells. And we know she had something to do with this.

GRACE: Of course she did. But I don`t know what. Maybe it was a case of allowing these people in the home, maybe it had something to do with drugs. But she was the last one with the girl, and we still don`t know where 5-year-old Haleigh is.

Out to Dr. Marty Makary, physician and professor of public health, Johns Hopkins.

Dr. Marty, thank you for being with us. Dr. Marty, she`s been behind bars now about 12 days. How long is it going to take a full-fledged dope freak on Oxycodone, Oxycontin, to dry out?

DR. MARTY MAKARY, PHYSICIAN, PROF. OF PUBLIC HEALTH, JOHNS HOPKINS: Well, she could be in the middle of that process right now. Typically it takes two to three weeks with Oxycodone, Oxycontin. These heavy narcotics, these narcotics that people can forge a prescription for.

But we may not see the effects of this wear off until about six weeks. After which they get severe depression, they get fatigue, and they get generalized malaise. And that lingers on for months afterwards.

GRACE: Dr. Marty, what about the lip licking and the fidgeting and the monotone that Dr. Lillian Glass pointed out? Would that be an indicator of a narcotics user?

MAKARY: Those are all totally consistent with somebody who chronically is using any opiate or narcotic and they`re going through withdrawal. Those are withdrawal symptoms.

GRACE: Back to Art Harris, investigative journalist, artharris.com, we now know there are hours and hours of secretly recorded videotape of Misty Croslin, the last who saw Haleigh. You talked to Misty`s father, Misty Croslin`s father, and her sister-in-law. What can you tell me, again, about those tapes? What do we expect to hear?

HARRIS: Well, if you get the tapes that were made today.

GRACE: Right.

HARRIS: . you will hear Misty talking about things like what happened that night. I had never known this from her sister-in-law before, but she says she was so tired from those parties in the last three days that when she came home she did not want to babysit. That she called Ron`s mother and she offered, quote, "to pay her to babysit." And Misty told her sister-in-law, well, I said, OK, if it`s OK with Ron.

Now, remember, he was furious at her. She had just gone off on this three-day revenge romance -- sex, drugs and rock `n` roll. And she didn`t know if he wanted her to babysit. She said it was with OK and so that`s the last we know, Nancy. That`s what you`ll hear on tonight`s tape.

GRACE: So you`re telling me that night she was there and Haleigh went missing she didn`t want to be there? She did not want to babysit?

HARRIS: That`s what she told her sister-in-law who I talked to tonight.

GRACE: You know that adds a lot to the mix, the fact that she did not want the responsibility of these children and now suddenly one of them disappears. That`s something new to us tonight.

We`re taking your calls live. As we go to break, happy birthday to one of our regulars. We know her. We love and respect her. Dr. Leslie Austin. She had a big birthday and I`m sure she celebrated not only with her human loved ones but all of her beloved pets. Listen, they get dressed up for every holiday, Halloween, Christmas, Easter. You name it.

Dr. Leslie, happy birthday.

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UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: 911. What`s your emergency?

CROSLIN: I just woke up and our back door was open and I can`t find our daughter.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Misty`s brother was recently arrested on a gun charge and he reportedly broke down under police questioning. Tommy Croslin says he went to Ronald Cummings` trailer the night Haleigh vanished back in February.

The brother said he repeatedly pounded on the door but no one opened it. Misty Croslin has insisted she was home all night.

CROSLIN: I seen the kitchen light on, and I walked in the kitchen and the back door is wide open. I mean, I didn`t notice about Haleigh. Until I seen the back door open, then I go in the room and she`s gone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Misty`s time line doesn`t make sense and her story changes. So the ring of truth is that somebody went there and she wasn`t home when they knocked.

CROSLIN: I`m trying to do everything I can to find her, you know, answer any questions I have to. Because I know I didn`t do anything to that little girl. I would never hurt her.

CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD, MOM OF MISSING 5-YR-OLD HALEIGH CUMMINGS: I`ve thought all along that she had something to do with it, and now this kind of just proves it. I mean, she`s the last one to see our daughter and her stories just don`t add up.

CROSLIN: They go out and look for the right person, maybe they would have the answer. But they`re trying to get all the answers from me that I don`t have.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: So they haven`t questioned you or asked you if you found out anything from Misty or found out anything from anybody else?

CUMMINGS: No. They know I haven`t found out anything, Dana. They know I haven`t because they know that they`d be the first ones to know. I wouldn`t call them or nothing else. They would be notified probably by the news media or somebody you know reporting a homicide so they already know that I haven`t found out about anything. So they don`t have to ask me a dumb question like that.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Because you`re saying that if you found out you would do what you think you need to do and they`d find out about that.

CUMMINGS: Yes.

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GRACE: We learn tonight hours on hours of stepmother Misty Croslin on video and audio. What did she say to her mother and father and others that came to visit her behind bars?

Let`s take a look at where this bunch is shacked up. They`re in a couple of different locations, a couple of different jails. And we`re also learning about jailhouse amenities. Recreation time outside of jail, we are learning about libraries, TV, recreation yard, GED classes, programs.

We learn about a menu tonight, chicken, rice with gravy, peas, bread, pudding, and fruit juice. You know what? I had a couple of chicken nuggets I found in the car. They`re eating better than I did. I had three chicken nuggets.

Marlaina, what can you tell me about these jailhouses?

SCHIAVO: Well, the one that Misty is in -- she`s only in protective custody so she can play cards in her jail cell. She can watch TV. And she can pretty much have visitors through the week depending on the schedule.

Now, for Ronald, he`s in isolation in Putnam County so he can only have 20 minutes twice a week for visitation and supervised recreation.

GRACE: So long story short, while they`re having chicken with rice and gravy, peas, bread, pudding and fruit juice, a 5-year-old girl`s body is likely somewhere decomposing or else she`s been kidnapped during one of Misty Croslin`s drug hazes.

And God only knows where she is tonight. Also, we learn that Ronald Cummings has been moved. To where and why, Marlaina Schiavo?

SCHIAVO: He has been moved Putnam County because that`s where all his charges were with. He was originally separated from the other defendants while they were still investigating, but now he is back where he belongs.

GRACE: Out to the lines, Anne in Iowa, hi, Anne.

ANNE, CALLER FROM IOWA: Yes. I hope you haven`t touched on this yet, but I firmly believe that Misty sold Haleigh for drugs. Not the money owed. Nothing. But just sold her to get more drugs.

GRACE: Anne in Iowa, there was a time that I would have scoffed at that theory, but now, in light of the magnitude of their drug needs and her drug dependency, I think that may be entirely possible. The only thing is, she hasn`t popped up anywhere. There have been no legitimate sightings of her. Is that correct, Art Harris?

HARRIS: That`s correct, Nancy. I can tell you the Putnam County Sheriff`s Department has a whole file, books of, quote, "sightings" that they have followed up on, and no Haleigh.

I can tell you that that theory is a little more than a theory in the mind of Misty`s father who told me that Ron claimed he knew where he could get Misty back for $35,000. He tells me he`s told that to the police. That probably went right into one of those tip sheets and, you know, no one has been able to verify that at all.

GRACE: Back to Marc Klaas, president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation. The more we hear, the more tangled up it gets, the disappearance of this little girl. What is your suggestion now to police? You`ve been here.

MARC KLAAS, PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, I would say now what the police should probably do is focus upon that group of drug sharing individuals that congregate in and around Misty. Who are the people that she was with? Who could have been there that night?

Perhaps the little girl took a pill and died and somebody disposed of her and Misty may not even be aware of that. She may have been so zonked out. But I would suggest that probably it`s with that group of individuals with whom they socialize and do drugs. That`s probably where the answer is to this mystery.

GRACE: Even if that were the scenario, it`s still negligent homicide on a child. Unleash the lawyers. Sue Moss, Ray Giudice, Peter Odom. Another issue about Misty Croslin talking from behind bars, a lot of people think that what you say to your parents, Raymond Giudice, is somehow protected. That`s not true.

GIUDICE: Absolutely not. There`s no privilege, as you pointed out. The legal privileges are doctor/patient, attorney/client, priest/penitent, that`s about it. Maybe a marital privilege in some state, but not in Florida under these circumstances.

GRACE: And Peter Odom, if you`re meeting, think back to the O.J. Simpson trial. Do you remember when Rosie Greer visited him in the capacity as a minister and Simpson made some incriminating statement akin to a confession? Even though a sheriff apparently overheard it, it still was disallowed in court. Why?

ODOM: In that case, Nancy, because the sheriff accidentally overheard it. If the sheriff had been there, then there would not have been any legal privilege whatsoever.

GRACE: Sue Moss, weigh in.

MOSS: Well, I`m not sure about that because Rosie Greer apparently is a member of the clergy and I believe at that time he was claiming there was the clergy privilege.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: What have they talked to you about? Have they talked to you about why they arrested you or have they -- have you talked to any detectives at all or are they just -- or you`ve just been in jail?

CUMMINGS: I`m just being in jail, dude. They told me that I was being arrested for -- because they had warrants for me for trafficking in hydrocodone.

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CUMMINGS: I mean the cell can`t be no more than eight, it might be 10 by 12, maybe. On the side where the toilet ain`t at. So on the side where the toilet is at it can`t be more than eight by 10. That`s what I`m saying. It`s not good -- this is not very big at all.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: It doesn`t sound big. But I`ll tell you what, it`ll get smaller and smaller.

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GRACE: That is Ronald Cummings talking to the "Florida Times-Union ". Out to the lines, Dawn, South Carolina. Hi, Dawn.

DAWN, CALLER FROM SOUTH CAROLINA: Hi, Nancy. I love your show. I think it`s great.

GRACE: Thank you.

DAWN: My question is, in all of this, where is Misty`s brother and has he been questioned about anything?

GRACE: What about it, Art Harris?

HARRIS: Misty`s brother has been questioned. He`ll be questioned again, says he knows nothing. In fact, I was told tonight by his parents, Nancy, he`s willing to take a lie detector test and pay for it themselves. They have their own private eye who would do it for $750.

GRACE: Art, remember him saying that a guy dressed in black with squeaky shoes was in the home the night his sister went missing.

HARRIS: That was Junior`s comments.

GRACE: What about it, Lillian Glass, how would you handle a child witness like that?

GLASS: Oh, Nancy, it`s so complicated. Because you can just see that they`re lying through their teeth. They change their stories, all of their tells, when they speak, it`s complete lies. And it`s very difficult to get a handle on this.

GRACE: Art, what more can you tell us?

HARRIS: I can tell you that as far as the child goes, they had experts question Junior from the University of Florida who were specialized in child psychology and this kind of traumatic kind of case. And that`s what they told the expert. However, the child is too young for it to hold up in court.

GRACE: Right. Art, what can you tell us -- you have alluded to mind games with cops. You know -- what do you think?

HARRIS: That is the term that the parents used with me tonight. That`s Misty`s phrasing of what has been going on over the last few days that they`ve been playing, quote, "mind games" with her.

GRACE: Please. Her mind is so fried. She doesn`t -- she wouldn`t know a mind game if it bit her in the neck, Art Harris.

Everybody, let`s stop and remember Navy Boatswain Mate 1st Class Brian Ouellette, 37, (INAUDIBLE), Massachusetts. A Navy SEAL, awarded the Bronze Star and Purple Heart. Lost his life before walking at graduation in Excelsior College. His mother accepted his bachelor`s science degree in his honor.

A black belt in karate, fluent in Spanish, loved sports, Red Sox. Leaves behind grieving parents, Jack and Peg, six brothers, one sister.

Brian Ouellette, American hero.

Thanks to our guests but our biggest thank you is to you for being with us tonight. And a special happy birthday to one of our stars, Andrea. She loves Sting and the Police. But her number one love is her beautiful little girl, Lily, who bakes cupcakes for our show.

Happy birthday, Andrea.

And remember, everyone, the tipline in the Haleigh case, 1-888-277- TIPS.

I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern. Until then, good night, friend.

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