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NANCY GRACE

Child Services Visits Tiger`s Home

Aired December 14, 2009 - 20:00:00   ET

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NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Live, Windermere, Florida, superstar golf phenomenon Tiger Woods drives out of his multi-million- dollar compound barefoot, 2:00 AM after Thanksgiving Day celebrations, and has a head-on collision with a tree and a fire hydrant. His young wife, the mother of his two children, says she hears the crash from inside, runs out to beat out both back windows of Woods`s Cadillac.

Woods refusing repeatedly to speak to police, immediately pulling out of his own golf tournament as the alleged mistresses hit double digits, including a swimsuit model, two porn stars and a waitress at a pancake house. Woods just gets a slap on the wrist, even though a witness tells cops Woods was drinking before the crash and prescribed sleeping pills and the painkiller Vicodin.

Bombshell tonight, DFACS, child services, flanked by cops, reportedly show up at Woods`s mansion reportedly after claims of a domestic incident with a weapon in front of the children. In the last hours, Woods`s wife spotted without her wedding ring. And she is contacting divorce lawyers. Do you blame her? This as up to $35 million in endorsements dry up, and yet another alleged mistress comes forward, the tally now at 14.

All this on the heels of news that Tiger Woods shacked up with one of these women at the family home the night his beloved father passes away. Moving vans showing up at Woods`s Florida compound, packing up and leaving, then boxes loaded on to Woods`s multi-million-dollar yacht, the Privacy, all on the heels of Woods taking, quote, an "indefinite leave" from golf and admitting infidelity.

And tonight, porn purveyors offering a cool million to any of Woods`s mistresses who`ll shoot a movie with them. Could Tiger sue? What really happened to Tiger Woods?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Breaking news. The Florida Department of Children and Families reportedly paid a visit to the Woodses` home after they received word there was an alleged domestic incident in front of the kids. DCF won`t comment on their possible involvement with the Woods family. But police confirm they did assist a DCF visit to the Isleworth subdivision, Woods`s exclusive gated community.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tiger Woods has lost his first big name sponsor since admitting to cheating on his wife. The global consulting firm Accenture is the first to end its business relationship with Tiger. The decision to end the six-year relationship with Woods comes two days after Tiger released a statement on his Web site admitting to infidelity and announcing an indefinite break from golf.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This as another alleged mistress speaks out. Thirty-one-year-old single mom Cori Rist says her relationship with Woods lasted two-and-a-half years. She knew Tiger Woods was married, but he allegedly told Rist the marriage wasn`t doing well and stayed with his wife because she was pregnant. New images surface of Elin Woods out on the town without her wedding ring.

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GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight. DFACS, child services, flanked by police show up at Woods`s mansion reportedly after claims of a domestic incident with a weapon in front of the children.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why is the Florida Department of Children and Families reportedly investigating Tiger and Elin Woods? Radaronline reporting DCF representatives made a visit to the Woods`s home on Friday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He made the announcement he`s taking an indefinite break from golf.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: After flying under the radar, Elin Woods finally spotted running errands without her wedding ring. What does it mean?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: More allege affairs, more alleged mistresses, a full-blown Tiger Woods scandal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Woods portraying himself as a dedicated family man.

JAIMEE GRUBBS, TIGER`S ALLEGED MISTRESS: The hardest part for me is to know that this whole time, you know, two-and-a-half years, that I thought that I could have been the only woman. And the only reason why, you know, we didn`t hang out as much would be that he was busy, and to go back and think that, you know, his reasons for being busy may have been another woman is -- it is very hard.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Accenture is dropping him, basically saying he is not the right representative for its advertising.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Reports Woods`s 155-foot yacht, Privacy, loaded for a trip, as the whereabouts of Tiger Woods still remain unknown tonight.

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GRACE: Straight out to Tom O`Neil, senior editor, "In Touch Weekly." Tonight on the legal front, DFACS, Department of Family and Children`s Services, reportedly showing up at Woods`s multi-million-dollar compound flanked by police. What happened?

TOM O`NEIL, "IN TOUCH WEEKLY": well, they arrived on Friday with an Orange County sheriff to investigate this claim that we hear, Nancy, that involves an incident with a weapon. There are other reports that it may even have been a golf club. We don`t know. That`s unconfirmed. All they will say is that...

GRACE: Tom O`Neil?

O`NEIL: What?

GRACE: Put O`Neil back up. Tom O`Neil, in many aggravated assault even murder cases, a weapon doesn`t have to be...

O`NEIL: Right, right, right.

GRACE: I mean, use your mind, Tom. It doesn`t have to be a knife or a gun.

O`NEIL: Right, right.

GRACE: A weapon could be a golf club. It could be fists. It could be feet. It could be a car. Anything that is used as a weapon, weapon- like, can be deemed a weapon under the law. Please go ahead, Mr. O`Neil.

O`NEIL: Right. And this could also be a frivolous complaint. We don`t know that because the golf club accusation was what was at the heart of the Thanksgiving blow-up that caused this whole thing. All we know is that the child services group is calling this a "wellbeing check," which is a case of where they go into the home, they separate the family members, talk to everybody and get their side of the story. We don`t know the full story, Nancy.

GRACE: OK, I`ve got a tiny problem with your scenario.

O`NEIL: OK.

GRACE: And it`s not your fault, Tom O`Neil with "In Touch Weekly." Let`s unleash the lawyers. We are taking your calls live tonight. We have reports that Department of Family and Children`s Services has pulled up, flanked by police, to Tiger Woods`s multi-million-dollar compound. Eleanor Odom, felony prosecutor out of the Atlanta jurisdictions, Jason Oshins, renowned defense attorney in the New York/New Jersey area, and Peter Odom, prosecutor turned defense attorney, also in Atlanta.

Eleanor, if this is over the same incident where allegedly someone is brandishing a golf club, aren`t they a day late and dollar short?

ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: It sure is because, Nancy, it`s a crime -- if you have an aggravated assault or some type of physical altercation and you do it in front of children, that`s a crime in and of itself.

GRACE: What about you, Sheryl McCollum, crime analyst?

SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST: Absolutely. There`s no question. They`re a little late, Nancy, but at least they showed up.

GRACE: Let`s go out to the lines. Nolanda in Utah. Hi, dear.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. How are you?

GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have a question. If I understand correctly, they have a prenup.

GRACE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Doesn`t adultery automatically null and void that prenup, where she can get the money she deserves for the public worldwide humiliation she`s suffering?

GRACE: You know what? That`s what I keep asking these lawyers, and they keep telling me that infidelity very often, Nolanda, is not addressed in a prenup because they don`t want the prenup to be defeated. So in the prenup, very often, they don`t have a clause that says, And hey, if I fool around, then I owe you 50 million more dollars. So it`s not addressed.

But let`s go to the lawyers. Jason Oshins, it seems to me that you go into a marriage in good faith. Do you sign this prenup, and then suddenly, let`s just say your husband has 14 affairs from everybody from a porn star to a waitress at the pancake house.

JASON OSHINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Right.

GRACE: All right? Now, to me, that would crack the prenup.

OSHINS: Well, you know, it depends, as you eloquently stated, what`s in the agreement. No one wants to put that specific act, of course, which is a ground automatically for a divorce in most states to allege adultery. So I don`t think anyone contemplating that -- that type of prenup agreement wants to put that in, as you did state.

GRACE: Take a look at these shots we`re showing you. These were just taken in the last hours. You see his wife, Elin Nordegren, without that huge, humungous diamond ring. Peter Odom, with your experience in divorce law, that`s very typically the first sign of divorce, people start taking off the rings.

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, that`s true, and they also -- we`re hearing rumors that they`re starting to buy a castle in Europe and make plans to move there. So this very well could be the beginning of the end, and we`ve known that for a week or so.

GRACE: Put Odom up. Peter Odom, they`re not starting to buy a castle in Europe. Elin Nordegren has closed on a family mansion in her homeland, on an island off the coast.

PETER ODOM: There you go. There you go.

GRACE: Now, I don`t know...

PETER ODOM: So this is certainly the beginning of the end.

GRACE: ... if he -- I don`t know if he, Tiger Woods, is part of that purchase. But let`s go to Alexis Tereszcuk with Radaronline. Alexis, what can you tell me about reports that moving vans have pulled up to the compound in Florida, packed up, left, now we see boxes being loaded onto Woods`s multi-million-dollar yacht, the Privacy?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: Well, Nancy, that has happened. A moving van did pull up in front of Tiger`s home. They moved out lots of boxes. We didn`t see either Tiger or Elin. But she does have the home. Tiger`s plane landed in Europe today, in her home country of Sweden. And the boat seems to be moving things, too.

GRACE: To Ellie Jostad. Ellie, yet another woman has decided to go public.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Right.

GRACE: And she goes on and on about all the pain she`s worried about she`s causing the wife, Elin Nordegren.

JOSTAD: Right.

GRACE: Now, why the heck did she go on the "Today" show to announce it, if she`s so worried? Take a listen, Ellie.

JOSTAD: OK.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was he telling you?

CORI RIST, TIGER`S ALLEGED MISTRESS: Just that his marriage was on the rocks and there was a baby on the way and he had to uphold this image and stick it out for now and things were not good at home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what made you realize then that he wasn`t being true to his word, that that wasn`t -- he wasn`t going to leave his wife?

RIST: The media. I started seeing them out and the pictures being printed, and I just -- then I didn`t believe it. And then I also would wake up in the night and he would be texting, you know, in the middle of the night. And I would ask who he was texting, and he would say, Checking e-mails. And I just had that feeling that this was something bigger.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you started realizing at that point that the texts and everything, that perhaps he was having relationships with multiple women?

RIST: That`s correct.

I`m not the party girl that they`re claiming that I am. I do go out with my girlfriends and have fun and -- you know, but I`m not -- I`m not like most of these girls. And I`m not judging them, by any means. You know, I`m not putting anybody down. But you know, I`m a mom, and I`m a stay-at-home mom. And I`ve worked hard and I tried to set the right example by my son.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has this been hard for you and your son?

RIST: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How? I mean, what -- what is your son hearing?

RIST: Just all the horrible things! I`m sorry! You know, he has to face a lot of -- he`s suffering a lot of consequences from this. And I`ve had to explain to him the mistakes that I`ve made. So it has been very tough, you know, and on my family, as well. And I don`t think anybody wants to see their daughter or granddaughter in this situation. So...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you feel that you`re -- do you feel that you`re to blame for that?

RIST: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: What about Elin`s family, lady? You`re the one that shacked up! That`s Tiger Woods`s alleged mistress, Cori Rist, crying on the NBC "Today" show.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, it`s -- it`s Tiger. I need you to do me a huge favor. My wife went through my phone. She may be calling you.

911 OPERATOR: It`s an auto accident?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, there was an auto accident, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have a neighbor. He hit the tree.

911 OPERATOR: OK. Are you able to tell if he`s breathing?

WILLIAMS: No, I can`t tell right now.

GRUBBS: I did feel guilty that, you know, he`s spending his time with somebody, you know, that isn`t his wife. It`s just the way he was.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s been incredibly gracious with the media. He`s never not committed himself to the media and he`s been great. And you know, he makes one mistake, and they run all over the guy.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: You are seeing video of Tiger Woods`s caddy, Steve Williams (ph), from NBC`s "Today" show.

I want you to take a listen to women that are now cupping forward and whining and crying about all the pain that they have caused Elin Nordegren. Then why don`t they keep their pieholes shut and go home and take care of their family, instead of compounding the pain by yakking about it? Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was he telling you?

RIST: Just that his marriage was on the rocks and there was a baby on the way and he had to uphold this image and stick it out for now and things were not good at home.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what made you realize then that he wasn`t being true to his word, that that wasn`t -- he wasn`t going to leave his wife?

RIST: The media. I started seeing them out and the pictures being printed, and I just -- then I didn`t believe it. And then I also would wake up in the night and he would be texting, you know, in the middle of the night. And I would ask who he was texting, and he would say, Checking e-mails. And I just had that feeling that this was something bigger.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you started realizing at that point that the texts and everything, that perhaps he was having relationships with multiple women?

RIST: That`s correct.

I`m not the party girl that they`re claiming that I am. I do go out with my girlfriends and have fun and -- you know, but I`m not -- I`m not like most of these girls. And I`m not judging them, by any means. You know, I`m not putting anybody down. But you know, I`m a mom, and I`m a stay-at-home mom. And I`ve worked hard and I tried to set the right example by my son.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has this been hard for you and your son?

RIST: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How? I mean, what -- what is your son hearing?

RIST: Just all the horrible things! I`m sorry! You know, he has to face a lot of -- he`s suffering a lot of consequences from this. And I`ve had to explain to him the mistakes that I`ve made. So it has been very tough, you know, and on my family, as well. And I don`t think anybody wants to see their daughter or granddaughter in this situation. So...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you feel that you`re -- do you feel that you`re to blame for that?

RIST: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MEREDITH VIEIRA, "TODAY" CO-HOST: Did he ever talk to you about his wife, ever mention her?

JAMIE JUNGERS, TIGER`S ALLEGED MISTRESS: No. The one time that his wife was mentioned was the first day that I met him and that we hung out, and I`m the one that asked him about her.

VIEIRA: You actually, from what I understand, spent time in their home in Los Angeles, as well.

JUNGERS: I did.

VIEIRA: When she wasn`t there, obviously.

JUNGERS: Yes. Yes, this happened probably a month after we had been seeing each other. He flew me out, came and picked me up at the airport, and I stayed there for a night.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Spent time in the family home? That`s certainly putting the perfume on the pig! You just saw Tiger Woods`s alleged mistresses Cori Rist and Jamie Jungers on NBC`s "Today" show. Tamara (INAUDIBLE) Britto, branding strategist, president of the Britto Agency in New York, she certainly -- Meredith Vieira there -- she`s a find journalist -- she certainly cut Tiger Woods some slack when she said, You spent time in the Woods mansion! I don`t know if that`s really a correct description of what they did in Tiger Woods`s mansion, according to Rist.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you ever see him take drugs at all?

GRUBBS: I mean, I`ve never seen him, you know, take painkillers. I know he does have a hard time sleeping. He would take a sleeping pill occasionally. I mean, he did -- never sleep. I mean, even if he wanted to go to bed at maybe 10:00, maybe he wouldn`t fall asleep until, you know, 12:30, 1:00, and then he`d be up at 3:00. I mean, that`s just the way he was.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Straight back to the lines. Tina, New Jersey. Hi, Tina.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. I`ve been thinking this for a while. I just haven`t seen nobody commenting on it, if Tiger maybe is a sex addict.

GRACE: You know, I want to go to Dr. Janet Taylor. What do you think about that, Dr. Taylor, psychiatrist joining us out of New York?

DR. JANET TAYLOR, PSYCHIATRIST: Well, I think, certainly, Tiger has patterns of, obviously, infidelity and risk taking. I think to call him a sex addict is a stretch and actually an excuse for really bad, bad behavior.

GRACE: You know, Dr. Taylor, why is it that everybody that`s famous that gets caught running around suddenly says they have an illness?

TAYLOR: Well, again, it`s a way out. It`s something that`s treatable. It separates their responsibilities and makes you feel like they can`t control it. But the reality is, Tiger`s had these patterns. They`ve been deliberate. And I don`t think he`s a sex addict.

GRACE: Now, why do you believe -- in your expertise, what separates him from a sex addict?

TAYLOR: Well, I mean, if you think about addiction, certainly, the brain likes reward. And if you think about drug addiction and gambling, those kind of behaviors certainly can set up a pattern where you do an activity and get rewarded. But to be a sex addict, you have to have some pleasure. But I think it`s just a lot harder to prove and more subjective. And without knowing Tiger`s psychological profile, it just would be hard to say that he`s a sex addict.

GRACE: Back to the lawyers, Eleanor Odom, Jason Oshins, Peter Odom. Peter, what do you make of DFACS, Department of Family and Children`s Services, showing up at Woods`s mansion? That`s pretty serious.

PETER ODOM: Well, they have to show up when there`s any kind of a report, even if it`s an anonymous report. They have to go and just do an assessment to see if there`s anything to it. Doesn`t mean there is anything to it. It doesn`t mean that the allegations are true. But they`d certainly be remiss if they didn`t just go and separate the family members, speak to them and see what there is to it, particularly if acts of violence occurred in front of children.

GRACE: To Ellie Jostad. Ellie, what do we know about the report that was made to child services?

JOSTAD: Well, Nancy, we don`t know who made the report. We did talk to Department of Children and Families, who would describe just only in very general terms that when they get a report like this, if they believe it`s been made in good faith, even if the person hasn`t personally witnessed some sort of incident, they still do an investigation. They still check to make sure that the family is safe.

GRACE: And to Rick Burton, the David Falk professor of sports management, Syracuse University -- what is this doing to him as a sports icon?

RICK BURTON, PROF. OF SPORTS MANAGEMENT, SYRACUSE UNIV. (via telephone): Well, it`s a flood that`s building. And the issue, to just borrow from rock-and-roll terminology, is whether or not the levee is going to break here fairly soon.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think that Tiger is a sex addict?

JAIMEE GRUBBS, TIGER WOODS` ALLEGED MISTRESS: The man that I knew -- the Tiger that I knew, I would never think that. You know it was never about that. He never, you know, just kind of said come over and that`s what`s going to happen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It wasn`t one woman. It wasn`t two. You know we think the number has been up to 13.

NANCY GRACE, HOST: If these women are to be believed, the relationship with Tiger Woods would go on for a couple of years. How he whined about being married to his wife and said he wished he met them before he got married. What is that? There`s got to be a medical term.

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": They delude themselves into thinking some day they will be the only one, that they`ll replace the wife. I do not for one second believe he had real relationships with these women.

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST; FMR. D.C. POLICE DET., FBI TERRORISM TASK FORCE: His wife and his two little children, they`re the real victims in all of this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Generally right now they are trying to work things out. Some people are saying, though, it`s not necessarily going in his favor. That she`s kind of wavering in her feelings.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: So what do sponsors do with all this? Accenture drops, Tag Heuer, not so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: People like certainty. And right now Tiger is an uncertainty, and that`s not a good thing for himself, his brand or his golf game.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think that Tiger is a sex addict?

GRUBBS: The man that I knew -- the Tiger that I knew I would never think that. You know it was never about that. He never, you know, just kind of said come over and that`s what is going to happen. So I mean -- the person that I knew, I would say no.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: We have just obtained some sound and interview with Tiger Woods himself. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the man who had it all.

TIGER WOODS, GOLF CHAMPION: It`s been great, actually. It`s been one of the best things that ever happened.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Fame, fortune, and family.

WOODS: They got my wife (INAUDIBLE) enough.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A man unaware that very soon, fate would make his answers sound like lies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Family first, then golf second. Always be like that?

WOODS: Always.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Be watching.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE), Tiger Woods, Tuesday exclusive to Sky Sport 1.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: That was part of an interview with Tiger woods on Sky TV just one month before the scandal erupted. And he is talking about his family being his priority. And he seems truthful. Despite his alleged extramarital affairs.

We are taking your calls live. Out to Janet in Georgia, hi, Janet.

JANET, CALLER FROM GEORGIA: Hi, Nancy.

GRACE: Hi, dear, what is your question?

JANET: Why is the news media glorifying these classless, self- centered women with obviously no morals, self-respect nor integrity.

GRACE: OK, hold on.

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: Hold on. Hold on. Janet, what do you mean by glorifying them?

JANET: They`re showing their faces, they`re interviewing them, and if I were them I would hide my face. I wouldn`t, I would be so humiliated for the -- for everyone to know that -- that I had had an adulteress affair with a married man with two beautiful kids.

GRACE: Well, you know another thing, Janet. I`m going to go to you on this, Eleanor, because you were mentioning it that one of them actually said, well, I`m not like all the others.

ELEANOR ODOM, PROSECUTOR: Well, and clearly, Nancy, we see that it`s the same pattern again and again where each person thinks that they`re the only one and that they`ll be the one with Tiger.

GRACE: You know there are now reports that porn purveyors have offered a cool $1 million to any of the 14 alleged mistresses of Tiger Woods to star in a porn flick. I could kind of see it right now.

Out to you, Peter Odom, Jason Oshins, Eleanor Odom. She`ll come on to the scene and let me guess, it will be at a golf course. OK. If they make that scenario happen in a porn video, Jason Oshins, would Tiger Woods have the right to get an injunction to stop it or to sue?

JASON OSHINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: I don`t know why he would have the ability if, you know, consenting adult is involved in the porn industry. Obviously....

GRACE: Because it would clearly be about him?

OSHINS: Well, yes, but you wouldn`t use his name. You`d make everything seem just as close.

GRACE: Whoa, whoa. Put Jason Oshins up. Jason Oshins, you don`t have to name an individual. For instance, I don`t have to say, Michael Jackson.

OSHINS: Absolutely.

GRACE: All I have to do is put on one glove and dance like nobody else in the universe ever could.

OSHINS: That`s it. That`s why Tiger would have no basis to sue as long as you didn`t use his name. But all of us would know exactly who it was.

GRACE: I understand. Now let me ask you this, Jason Oshins, I think I got you over the barrel. Isn`t the truth a complete defense?

OSHINS: Well, we`re talking something published or slanderous as opposed to some sort of spoof-porn movie.

GRACE: Put him up!

OSHINS: Thank you, Nancy.

GRACE: How -- what would be his claim in a lawsuit, Jason Oshins? You just said we could sue.

OSHINS: No, I did .

GRACE: OK, why?

OSHINS: I did not you could sure. I said he would have no basis to sue. He`d have no basis as long as you did not use his name.

GRACE: OK. That doesn`t make sense.

OSHINS: Well, you.

GRACE: . because you don`t have to use his name for him to be identifiable.

OSHINS: Well, the question was would he have the basis to sue. He wouldn`t be able to get an injunction. There`d be no reason for him legally to get one. None.

GRACE: Agree, Peter Odom?

PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Portraying someone or using their image or their name in a very unfavorable, unflattering situation that is not true such as a porn movie with Tiger Woods could be what`s called false like defamation. But it would be a stretch in this case. And as you suggest, Nancy, truth is a complete defense to defamation.

GRACE: I am not suggesting it, Peter Odom.

P. ODOM: You act like saying it.

GRACE: I am telling you it, flat out. Point-blank the truth is a complete defense. Also, Jason Oshins, there`s the issue of him being a public figure. You can make a lot more fun and a say all sorts of nasty things about somebody if they are a public figure. Talking about the president, I`m talking about the vice president, I`m talking about celebrities.

P. ODOM: Absolutely.

GRACE: People on TV, Tiger Woods. You can say all kind of nasty things about them. True or not true. And get away with it. That`s the state of the law.

P. ODOM: You can.

GRACE: Yes, no, Eleanor?

P. ODOM: Hundred percent.

E. ODOM: Yes, you`re right. Just think of shows like "Saturday Night Live" that parodies these stars all the time. Get away with.

GRACE: Back to the lines, Betty, Ohio. Hi, Betty.

BETTY, CALLER FROM OHIO: Hello, Nancy.

GRACE: Hi, dear, what is your question?

BETTY: My question is, are they really separating? And is she moving? And these women make me sick. They make decent women look bad.

GRACE: Well, seeing as I`m not a saint, and nobody has ever accused me of being a saint, I`m not going few come down on these women. And I would also like to report -- except the ones that get on TV and cry about how much they have been hurt.

But they don`t have a duty to anybody. Tiger Woods is the one that had a duty to his wife and his children.

To Tom O`Neil, what about it, Tom O`Neil? This one is on you.

TOM O`NEIL, SENIOR EDITOR IN TOUCH WEEKLY, COVERING STORY: I think they`re going to get back together. I think the answer was on his Web site.

GRACE: Wait? Back together? Does that mean you`re saying they`re split up?

O`NEIL: I think that`s pretty clear. Just yesterday she was seen driving around Orlando without the wedding ring on in...

GRACE: I was driving around today.

O`NEIL: In the.

GRACE: . with two kids in the back of the car without my wedding band on.

O`NEIL: All right. All right. OK.

GRACE: You think I want to leave this thing in the play station at McDonald`s. I don`t think so.

O`NEIL: There are.

GRACE: It didn`t mean a thing.

O`NEIL: I know, I know, but her mother was in the car. The kids were there. They`re going to a party, obviously, without Tiger. But -- and we don`t know, you know, what the upside is here. But I think Tiger`s point of view was clearly revealed on the Web site on Friday when he said that what he wants is to be a better husband, a better father, and wants a safe haven for privacy for healing.

GRACE: OK. Please pause. Please pause. I mean I don`t mean to rain on your parade, Tom O`Neil, but it was just about a month ago he said family first. In that interview on Sky TV.

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O`NEIL: I know. I know. I know. But now he`s caught red-handed and let`s hope he is...

GRACE: But now he`s busted. OK. Alexis, what about it? Are they split up or are those moving boxes because they`re both going to board that yacht with their kids and take off.

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, REPORTER, RADAROLINE.COM: Well, you might think from what Tiger has said and the statement that he wants to spend more time with her, but from everything we`ve been hearing she is not very happy. She is working on a different settlement. She`s perhaps talking to divorce lawyers. She is definitely mad about everything that is going on. And I don`t think that you can rule out the fact that they`re not going to be together.

GRACE: To Sheryl McCollum, Cold Case Squad, Pine Lake P.D. crime analyst. Sheryl, this morning on "The Today Show" an alleged mistress, Cori Rist, the one that was crying, said she had a very long affair with Woods.

Now a lot of these women are claiming two- and three-year relationships with him. Some in the family home. How difficult will that be for a divorce lawyer to prove after they hire a fleet of investigators like you?

SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST, DIR. OF COLD CASE SQUAD AT PINE LAKE P.D.: It`s not going to be hard at all. Again, we`ve got text messages, we`ve got voice mails. She`s going to have possibly photographs of him on her cell phone. It`s not going to be difficult.

GRACE: And to you, Ellie Jostad, on Friday we got a copy of the order filed in Great Britain banning anyone from publishing nude photos of Tiger Woods. I don`t think they exist, but have any surfaced? What`s happening on that front? Has it been domesticated in the U.S.?

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: No, that order hasn`t been domesticated yet. As far as we know. And like you said, we don`t know of any photographs. But the language in that order is very specific. If you even fake a picture and tried to say it`s Tiger we`ll go after you.

GRACE: Everybody, quick break. We are taking your calls live. But as we go to break, a very special happy birthday to the most beautiful woman in the world to me.

Happy birthday, Mother.

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SUSAN MOSS, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY & CHILD ADVOCATE: Tiger isn`t out of the woods yet. His troubles are just beginning.

GRACE: British lawyers have gotten a court order or have gone to court to stop new depictions, photos of Tiger Woods.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Lawyers representing the superstar golfer said they don`t know that any images like that exist. They say they sought the court order to prevent anybody from publishing fake images of him nude.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Infidelity in a marriage is one thing. But a serial infidelity achiever which what appears to what Tiger has done is a symptom in the character of the person who is cheating.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you pleas take your name off your phone? My wife went through my phone and may be calling you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There seems to be real relationships as you read these text messages. This wasn`t ships in the night. He really got emotionally involved with these women.

GRUBBS: I did put a lot of, you know, emotions into this. And I did care very much for him. And when we were together, I mean he did make me feel like I was the only girl. So to go back and see -- I mean, especially now when there is more and more.

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GRACE: Reports emerging that Tiger Woods had one of these women in the family home the night his beloved father died. Now how many of us have tuned in at the end of a golf championship to see Tiger Woods walk up to his father and hug him.

You wait the whole tournament to see the hug. At the end. And then how poignant that first tournament where Tiger Woods walked the last hole alone.

Elli, what happened?

JOSTAD: Well, Nancy, Jamie Jungers -- she`s one of the alleged mistresses -- she said that on May -- in May of 2006, the night that Tiger`s father was dying of prostate cancer, she said she was in the house with him in California. When he got the call from his mother, he went to a hospice but stayed there for about three hours with his dad. Came back home. She says then they had sex as usual. And then, shortly thereafter, Tiger`s mother called and informed him that his father had passed away.

GRACE: What about it, Tom O`Neil, "In Touch Weekly," what more do you know?

O`NEIL: Well, the details are that Jamie Jungers said when the phone call came in from the mother that his father had died, she said, I was just lying there in a pair of panties. This is not the scene you would expect of a man who knows his father is dying and should have his family around him.

He died of prostate cancer -- yes, in this hospice just down the road.

GRACE: Alexis?

TERESZCUK: And Jamie Jungers actually says she was in love with him. That is her excuse. And where was his wife this night? Why wasn`t he with his family? He was with the woman who said she was in love with him.

GRACE: Hey, Liz, do we have sound of Junger? OK. Cue it up. And in meantime, take a look at one of the women who appeared on "The Today Show" this morning. This is Cori Rist.

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CORI RIST, TIGER WOODS` ALLEGED MISTRESS: I am not the party girl that they`re claiming that I am. I do go out with my girlfriends and have fun. And -- but I am not like most of these girls. And I am not judging them by any means. You know, I`m not putting anybody down. But I`m a mom and I`m a stay-at-home mom. And I`ve worked hard and I tried to set the right example by my son.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has this been hard for you and your son?

RIST: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How? I mean, what is your son hearing?

RIST: Just all of the horrible things -- I`m sorry. You know, he has to face a lot of -- he is suffering a lot of consequences from this. And I have had to explain to him the mistakes that I have made. So it adds. It`s been very tough. You know? And my family as well. And I don`t think anybody.

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GRACE: Well, if they didn`t know it was you before all those kids you`re worried about on the playground, they know now. Because you`re on "The Today Show" this morning.

That`s Woods` alleged mistress, Cori Rist, on "The Today Show" a couple of hours ago. And here is the young lady, Jungers, who claims she was sacked up, slung up, in the family mansion the night Woods gets a call that his father is slipping away.

He leaves to go to the hospice, three hours, comes back. According to sources, has sex, get a call, the father is dead. Here she is.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did he ever talk to you about his wife? Ever mention her?

JAMIE JUNGERS, TIGER WOODS` ALLEGED MISTRESS: No. The one time that his wife was mentioned was the first day that I met him and that we hung out. And I`m the one that asked him about her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But you actually -- from what I understand -- spent time in their home? In Los Angeles, as well?

JUNGERS: Yes. I did.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When she wasn`t there obviously?

JUNGERS: Yes. Yes. This happened probably a month after we had been seeing each other. And he -- he flew.

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GRACE: That is Jamie Jungers, the alleged mistress of Woods, on "The Today Show," the one that claimed she was slung up with him the night his father passed away.

To Dr. Marty Makary, physician and professor of public health at Johns Hopkins. Dr. Makary, as always it`s an honor to have you with us.

Dr. Makary, I`m still focused on the DFCS, child services, going to Tiger Woods` home to check out reports there was a violent incident in front of the children. Are doctors in any way involved in that?

DR. MARTY MAKARY, PHYSICIAN, PROF. OF PUBLIC HEALTH, JOHNS HOPKINS: Well, you know a doctor can -- will often tip off Child Protective Services to go to a home. Anything that looks suspicious to a doctor or even a neighbor or a family member will get reported to CPA. And these groups will actually go -- these teams will go to the hope and try to do individual interviews based on a tip-off. And we`ve had situations in all directions.

GRACE: And Dr. Makary, could you explain to me -- could you look at his injuries and tell if they were from a car crash or if he got bashed in the head with a golf club?

MAKARY: Actually, oftentimes you can. You know, car crash impacts are high velocity impacts from directly straight and from the front, whereas domestic dispute injuries are often from the side or the back. So oftentimes you can tell the difference.

GRACE: What about is, Eleanor Dixon?

E. ODOM: Well, I agree. Nancy, that`s really important to have this kind of physical evidence, especially in a domestic violence case. Those injuries can tell the story.

GRACE: Everybody, as we go to break, our thoughts and prayers to Connecticut friend of the show, Filomena. At 98 years old she is recovering from successful hip surgery.

Filomena, please, stay strong.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think that that was the other problem? I mean, do you think there was something was going on? Or that he needed -- that he needed prescription drugs to help him sleep?

GRUBBS: I mean, he is a world renowned athlete and I`m sure he has so much on his mind and I couldn`t imagine it ever being put to sleep, but he very much does have a sleeping problem. You know? Whether it`s insomnia or caused by stress or whatever it may be, I don`t know but...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think he has an addiction to pain killers or sleeping pills?

GRUBBS: I mean, that`s something that I wouldn`t be able to, you know, say. I tried to just view her, text messages, and bar in between, and phone calls. And there was a time where he did come out. He did physically come out for five days and he texted me every day and said, you know, meet up with me, I want to see you. I miss you. And, you know, I didn`t do it. I was, like, I`m not going to do that anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you love Tiger?

GRUBBS: I did never say that I did love him. I wouldn`t let myself get that far.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think Tiger loved you?

GRUBBS: There were times where I feel that, you know, he could have but I mean if you were to ask me that question now I would have to say he didn`t.

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GRUBBS: Me telling the story wasn`t -- you know, the way I wanted to end things or say good-bye, necessarily, but it`s my closure. It`s just kind of, you know, this was a man I cared about. This was a man I spent two and a half years with.

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GRACE: We are taking your calls, to Millie in Connecticut, hi, Millie.

MILLIE, CALLER FROM CONNECTICUT: Hi, Nancy. How are you?

GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?

MILLIE: Nancy, I`m wondering, is it possible that when they were arguing in the house and Tiger was leaving to get in the Escalade and she ran after him with the 9 iron and hit that car back window, could it have been that he got out of the car to stop her and the car just continued going backwards?

GRACE: Well, here`s the issue with that. Now hold on. Hold on. To you, Ellie Jostad, are she pulled him out of the car? When the witnesses arrived wasn`t he already out of the car?

JOSTAD: Yes. You`re right, Nancy. The witnesses -- the neighbor said they got there, he was already lying on the ground, as a matter of fact.

GRACE: But you know what, Ellie, it still couldn`t happen the way Millie is -- exactly that way, the way Millie is proposing it, because he was where the car had stopped. He wasn`t like up the hill and the car kept going.

JOSTAD: Correct. Right.

GRACE: He was beside the car, with Elin Nordegren and a golf cart, yes, no?

JOSTAD: Yes. You`re right.

GRACE: Got it. OK. To Laura, Pennsylvania, hi, dear.

LAURA, CALLER FROM PENNSYLVANIA: Hi, Nancy. My question is, were CPS able to gain entry into the home? Because in my understanding you need a warrant to gain entry.

GRACE: To Alexis Tereszcuk with RadarOnline.com, did they get into the home?

TERESZCUK: Nancy, they got into the home but they did not speak with the people they wanted to speak with -- Tiger and Elin.

GRACE: Why?

TERESZCUK: They -- my understanding is that they were not there so it was negative contact is the way that they wrote it.

GRACE: So they weren`t turned away.

TERESZCUK: In the report that we have.

GRACE: They just weren`t home.

TERESZCUK: Correct.

GRACE: OK.

Everybody, let`s stop and remember Army Private First Class Brian Holden, 20, Claremont, North Carolina, killed, Iraq. Awarded the Bronze Star, Purple Heart, National Defense Service Medal, also served Kuwait. Had a smile that lit up a room. Loved the outdoors. Loved rock music. Favorite foods? Spaghetti and his grandmother`s biscuits and gravy.

Dreamed of buying a house and starting a family. Leaves behind a grieving and loving family.

Brian Holden, American hero.

Thank you to our guests but especially to you for being with us and a special happy birthday to one of our superstars, Yankees fan, Rachel. There she is.

Happy birthday, Rachel.

Everyone, I`ll see you tomorrow night, 8:00 sharp Eastern, and until then, good night, friend.

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