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Going from Bad to Worse in Haiti; Six Nation to Yields Little Progress with North Korea

Aired February 28, 2004 - 07:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

HEIDI COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone.
From the CNN Center in Atlanta, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

And it is February 28th. That would be the last day in February, right?

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN ANCHOR: Yes.

COLLINS: I'm Heidi Collins, everybody.

SAVIDGE: I'm Martin Savidge.

Welcome to this one hour edition of CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

If you missed the Democratic debate Thursday night, fear not. You will be able to catch it this morning starting one hour from now.

Also coming up this morning, Democratic presidential candidates court Howard Dean's supporters as they head into Super Tuesday. We'll have analysis and insight on the 10 state contest after the half hour.

But before that, what do you think your old toys could sell for? A hundred bucks? A thousand dollars? What about $10,000? Not even close. Find out where the bucks stop when international toy collectors just have got to have it.

And a piece of Chicago Cubs history that is probably best forgotten is obliterated. We'll explain in our Wows of the Week.

But first, the headlines.

COLLINS: Going from bad to worse in Haiti. Armed gang roaming the streets of the capital, Port-au-Prince, looting and killing as they go. The U.S. Embassy is appealing to President Jean-Bertrand Aristide to stop the blind violence by his supporters.

In China, no major progress reported after six nation talks on North Korea's nuclear weapons program. North Korea denied again that it has a program for enriching uranium for nuclear weapons. The U.S. claims the North Koreans privately admitted two years ago that they had such a program.

Well, they vote today on a new contract proposal, one that could end the longest and biggest grocery workers strike ever. No details yet on the proposal for 59,000 supermarket workers in California on strike or lockout since October 11. A major issue? Who pays for health insurance.

Coalition officials hope an agreement is reached this weekend on a transitional law in Iraq. The agreement could pave the way for the formation of an interim government. Still, at issue is what role religion will play in the country's new laws.

SAVIDGE: At the top of the news this morning, ratcheting up the violence in Haiti. Looting is reported in Port-au-Prince and the U.S. Embassy says supporters of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide have begun to burn, pillage and kill.

Our correspondent Lucia Newman is in the Haitian capital.

She joins us by telephone with the latest -- Lucia.

LUCIA NEWMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Martin.

Early this morning, President Jean-Bertrand Aristide called on supporters for calm and for the police to do their job. This as the United States issued a warning to the besieged president to control the armed gangs that are loyal to him who yesterday terrorized the capital here, Martin. His reputation, honor and legacy are at stake, says Washington.

Friday, truckloads of armed thugs roamed the capital, looting and killing. Warehouses at the port were sacked. At least two men were found killed execution style with their arms tied behind their backs and bullets through their heads. People stayed at home amid the chaos and lawlessness.

But the president, who is under increasing pressure to step down and allow for the supreme court president to name a transition government, is still holding firm that he will not go, Martin. This is as armed rebels claim to be encircling the capital at this very moment in preparation for an attack to get Jean-Bertrand Aristide out of the palace by force -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Lucia, the police, what is their stance right now in the capital?

NEWMAN: Well, Martin, we can't see them. They're, they were in hiding. We don't know where they are. At least when the armed gangs were roaming the capital, they were not there in force trying to put things under control. There are, I don't know, either out of fear or it's unclear just what happened to the police, but they did not intervene -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: And what do we know of the nationals, the internationals that are still in Haiti, their predicament and whether they're still trying to get out or what security measures are being taken for them?

NEWMAN: Well, yesterday, there were chaotic scenes, desperate scenes, really, at the airport. Hundreds of people went there trying to leave the country, people from all over the world, Haitian- Americans, Canadians. And they couldn't get out because all flights have been canceled.

Yesterday, or last evening, in fact, we saw some five military helicopters from the neighboring Dominican Republic touching down at the embassy, the Dominican embassy here in Port-au-Prince. We understand that they were evacuating foreign nationals to the Dominican Republic and they told us that this was for humanitarian reasons, out of humanitarian considerations. But obviously they can't get very many people out in these Huey helicopters -- Martin.

SAVIDGE: Lucia Newman standing by in Port-au-Prince in Haiti, watching events there.

We'll stay in close touch.

Thank you very much.

We are watching the situation in Haiti and bring you live updates throughout the day.

COLLINS: On the campaign trail, Democratic candidates are making hit and run visits to the 10 states holding contests on Super Tuesday. More than half the delegates needed to win the nomination are up for grabs.

CNN's Kelly Wallace reports on the campaigns of John Kerry and John Edwards.

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COLLINS: Who, if anyone, will become a political casualty of Super Tuesday? Well, we'll talk about it a little bit later in this program with NPR congressional reporter Andrea Seabrook.

SAVIDGE: Turning now to the issue of gay marriages, almost three weeks ago, San Francisco opened the door and allowed same sex couples to tie the knot. Now the idea is catching on in other places.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... husband and husband.

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SAVIDGE: That's New Platz, New York, about 75 miles north of the Big Apple.

CNN's Jennifer Coggiola has more on this and other cities that have altered the traditional walk to the altar.

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(END VIDEOTAPE) SAVIDGE: All right, a couple of other developments worth mentioning.

The California Supreme Court declined the request by the attorney general to order San Francisco to immediately stop issuing same-sex marriage licenses and nullify those already performed.

And New Paltz, New York plans now more same-sex weddings before Monday.

Well, coming up tomorrow on CNN SUNDAY MORNING, we'll have a debate on gay marriages. You can tune in for that one at about 9:15 Eastern time.

COLLINS: The Associated Press says the FBI is putting the Timothy McVeigh/Oklahoma City bombing case under review now. The review centers on possible co-conspirators in the attack and why some important documents never reached the Oklahoma City task force. The FBI will also look at one of the witnesses in the upcoming state trial of Terry Nichols. That witness says a member of a white supremacist gang admitted to being involved in the bombing.

SAVIDGE: Here are some other stories making headlines this morning across America.

One of the last standing remnants of the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center is coming down. The Deutsche Bank building sits empty on the edge of ground zero. Under an agreement, the building will be dismantled, clearing more room for the World Trade Center Memorial Park.

COLLINS: Colorado Governor Bill Owens chooses the state's attorney general to act as a special prosecutor in the investigation of the University of Colorado football team. The football program is under fire for alleged sexual misconduct in recruiting and since 2000 six women have now claimed they were sexually assaulted.

Kobe Bryant's 19-year-old accuser will take the stand next week for the first time in the sexual assault case. She will testify at a closed hearing being held to determine whether her past sexual history can be introduced as evidence.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP: Come on, let's go. Come here.

LARRY KING, HOST: All right, it is, it is not a toupee. OK.

TRUMP: OK?

KING: All right.

TRUMP: Will you please inform the public?

(END VIDEO CLIP) SAVIDGE: There you have it. Our own Larry King goes one-on-one with one of the world's richest men and gets the answer to a question everybody has been wondering about. You'll hear what he said later this hour.

COLLINS: Yes, you know, I have been wondering about that.

SAVIDGE: It's hair raising.

COLLINS: Hey, look at this. That's my Barbie Town House from just, what, maybe about 10 years ago or so? If you want to be rich, like Donald Trump, just go ahead and dig out your old toys. We're not kidding. Some of them might actually be worth six figures or so. We'll have an appraisal of some vintage toys coming up next on CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

SAVIDGE: But first, something new on CNN SATURDAY MORNING. Picture This -- a look at some of the week's most compelling photographs. We'll start with the rodeo trail boss leading the way down a country road in Texas, traveling 80 miles, headed to Houston for next Tuesday's opening of a livestock show and rodeo. The trail boss and nearly 300 members of the Sam Houston riders arrived in town yesterday.

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SAVIDGE: Picture this -- we're hanging out with Ellen Degeneres. It's another one of our photos of the week. The talk show host swings on the monkey bars with Bam-Bam during the taping of The Ellen Degeneres Show." There you have it.

COLLINS: Well, dust off your G.I. Joe and brush off your Barbie, those old toys gathering dust in your attic might actually be worth something. See, there she is. The International Toy Collectors Association has a national tour and it's in Atlanta right now. Lucky for us.

A toy buyer, Archie Davis, is here this morning to tell us what some of our old toys might be worth. And I've got to tell you, I had a field day. I went down to the basement and found Lincoln Logs.

ARCHIE DAVIS, INTERNATIONAL TOY COLLECTORS ASSOCIATION: Yes?

COLLINS: Which, as you probably -- or at least I'm learning now, I have a little boy, when you try to buy Lincoln Logs today, you don't actually get wood all of the time.

DAVIS: It's all plastic.

COLLINS: Yes.

DAVIS: It's probably all plastic.

COLLINS: And so these are the real wood ones, which is great. And I found my Barbie Doll House, which took much more construction time this morning than we ever imagined. DAVIS: I heard you guys, I think. Yes.

COLLINS: And the elevator still works. It goes up three floors.

DAVIS: Yes.

COLLINS: And then the other thing that I brought was the Ouija board. But, you know, you can still get those. And the -- I'm dying to ask you about the Nancy Ann Storybook Dolls.

DAVIS: Yes, those are...

COLLINS: Know anything about those?

DAVIS: Those were the first ones. They were made of bisque and they're 1940s time frame. And then in the '50s, she made plastic ones. Out of their boxes -- they came in polka-dotted boxes. They'll fetch, oh, probably around 20 bucks apiece is what you'll get.

COLLINS: Ah! Only 20 bucks!!!

DAVIS: Yes.

COLLINS: I have like 40 of them. I thought I was going to maybe retire tomorrow.

DAVIS: Well, that adds up to some money, though.

COLLINS: Yes, not much.

DAVIS: You put it in an original box then they'll average $50 to $75, though. The cardboard is very important for those things.

COLLINS: Yes, well, we, of course, don't have any of that.

OK, now talk to me about some of your prized possessions here.

DAVIS: These are...

COLLINS: Obviously you've been at this for quite a bit longer than I have.

DAVIS: Yes. These are some items that we picked up here in Atlanta, actually, since this is our third day here.

COLLINS: Oh, OK.

DAVIS: We have a very early 1920s, this is a Marx Merry Maker. It's a tin wind up toy that would work. A lot of people think it's Mickey Mouse, but it's just a mice band, is what it is.

COLLINS: A mouse band.

DAVIS: And then you have a post-war toy.

COLLINS: OK. DAVIS: This is a Little Abner Dog Patch Band, which is similar to that, but made by Unique Art Company.

COLLINS: Now, these all move?

DAVIS: Yes, they do, actually...

COLLINS: I mean like you wind them up, you say, and they'll actually perform songs?

DAVIS: They sure do. The Merry Maker works very, it works very well. It's got a start and stop piece on it here.

COLLINS: OK. And you said made of tin, huh?

DAVIS: Yes, tin toys...

COLLINS: Oh, look at that.

DAVIS: We've found that tin toys seem to be more desirable than a lot of plastic ones, but anything that predates 1970 is items that we actually buy for our collectors.

COLLINS: Oh, OK. Well, wonderful.

DAVIS: And then another very nice piece is the Jay Chain toy. This is also right after WWII. It's the 1940s.

COLLINS: Oh, that's great.

DAVIS: It still works.

COLLINS: And these are in such mint condition. Really good.

DAVIS: This is a very hard toy to find, for instance. This is a 1939 made by Weindot Toy Company (ph) and that's the circus truck.

COLLINS: Circus truck. Now, were there originally more than just...

DAVIS: Just those two pieces you need to...

COLLINS: Oh, OK. Is that also made of tin?

DAVIS: That's tin, also, yes.

COLLINS: OK.

DAVIS: And then you have battery operated space toys. And some of the space toys now are some of the more collectible things. I gave as much as $14,200 for one robot made in the 1950s one time.

COLLINS: Wait a minute, $14,000? And my stuff's worth 20 bucks?

DAVIS: Well, you have to have the right stuff.

COLLINS: I'm so bummed.

DAVIS: And then the character related things, too, like Charlie McCarthy. He's a little tin wind up toy from the 1930s.

COLLINS: This guy right here?

DAVIS: Yes.

COLLINS: The 1930s? Wow.

DAVIS: Charlie McCarthy and his sidekick was Mortimer Snerd. And...

COLLINS: Of course, right?

DAVIS: And character related toys are often...

COLLINS: Oh, sorry. I started the Ferris wheel again.

DAVIS: It's noisy. Lionel trains, some of our biggest train collectors are into Lionel, American Flier, Marx, Ives. Any train that predates the mid-'60s seems to be pretty desirable.

COLLINS: The mid-'60s. Now, are those real heavy? What are those made out of?

DAVIS: That's a die cast material. Yes, that weighs probably about three pounds by itself.

COLLINS: OK. All right. Great.

Now, I think, if I remember correctly, this way over here is your...

DAVIS: That's the best one.

COLLINS: ... prized possession, if you will. I'm a little afraid to touch it...

DAVIS: That's 19...

COLLINS: ... because of the cost that you told me.

DAVIS: That's 1920s. It's actually celluloid and tin wind up. It's made in Japan. That little particular piece is probably about 2,000 bucks like that.

COLLINS: Two thousand bucks, huh?

DAVIS: Yes. And then advertisement toys from the 1950s such as Buddy L. Did a lot of advertisement, like Wrigley's spearmint gum.

COLLINS: Yes?

DAVIS: This is a Butterfinger, you know, which is also a collectible. COLLINS: Right. You can see the logo here on the back. I'm not sure about the front. Oh, yes, that's on the front, too.

DAVIS: Yes. The Goofy sports car.

COLLINS: Oh, yes, of course. And quickly, before we move on here, this guy in front, this is like an original G.I. Joe?

DAVIS: That's a 1960...

COLLINS: Which, it doesn't look anything like G.I. Joe to me, but there were different costumes.

DAVIS: A 1964 Painted Hair G.I. Joe is what that's called.

COLLINS: Painted Hair G.I. Joe?

DAVIS: Yes.

COLLINS: As opposed to the really...

DAVIS: Fuzzy Hair.

COLLINS: OK, Fuzzy Hair.

DAVIS: Lifelike hair, yes.

COLLINS: Fuzzy Hair versus Painted Hair, of course.

DAVIS: And this, of course, we've got a Barbie hanging out, also, in your house.

COLLINS: Yes, a real live Barbie. Oh.

DAVIS: And another space toy. This one is actually Friction. This is post-war. This is the 1950s time frame, also Japan time. And anything like this is stuff that we buy throughout the nation and have for probably like the last 10 years. We represent about 6,000 worldwide collectors.

COLLINS: Wow, that's amazing.

DAVIS: And it's amazing what people have. Most of this stuff is tucked away in attics and basements, sitting around collecting dust.

COLLINS: Right.

DAVIS: And we put money in people's hands for them.

COLLINS: Quickly, Archie, before we let you go, how should you care for your toys that you know are worth something? I mean how do you keep them, hermetically sealed or...

DAVIS: We recommend...

COLLINS: What do you do? DAVIS: Yes, a lot of people keep them, you know, out of the environment in a glass cage, obviously. But we'd also recommend not trying to clean these things with like a Windex or something like that.

COLLINS: Oh, yes, no.

DAVIS: They need to have them professionally cleaned, is the best way to do it.

COLLINS: All right, Archie Davis, thanks so much for bringing all of this.

We appreciate it.

We're going to sit down and play with a few toys during the break.

DAVIS: OK. I want to point out that people can actually go to Toyroadshow.com.

COLLINS: OK.

DAVIS: And that's another way to get a hold of us and sell the toys to us.

COLLINS: All right, excellent, Toyroadshow.com.

DAVIS: Yes.

COLLINS: Thanks so much, Archie.

DAVIS: Thanks for having me.

COLLINS: Appreciate your time.

DAVIS: Thank you.

COLLINS: All right, Marty, back over to you.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM MOVIE PREVIEW)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's been another murder and I'm my best suspect.

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SAVIDGE: "Twisted" is one of the movies opening this weekend. If you're in the mood for suspense, well, this could be right up your alley. Find out what else is out there in our "Now Showing" preview. And attention waiters and waitresses: this could happen to you. A brand new car as your tip. Not too shabby, right? Wait until you hear some of the "Wows of the Week," coming up later.

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SAVIDGE: You know, you realize, don't you, that there are some movies in theaters other than "The Passion of the Christ."

Here's a look at some of them.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "HAVANA NIGHTS")

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I might really want you. (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I never really knew that you could dance like this. She make a man want to speak Spanish.

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SAVIDGE: It's a movie you can dance to. It's dirty dancing, "Havana Nights," sort of a remake, but set in Cuba during the Castro revolution.

And then there's Ashley Judd and Sam Jackson.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "TWISTED")

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thanks a lot for backing me up in there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Backing you up? I was just giving my professional opinion.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: It is a crime thriller "Twisted." At least Ashley Judd is nice to look at.

And then there is...

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "CLUB DREAD")

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, Larry Brankhorst (ph). I'm the new masseur.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. I'm Jenny.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's really nice to meet you, Jenny.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And this is You (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And really nice to meet you, You.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you're subbing in for Inga (ph) this week?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, you'd better be good. You've got to have some great moves. Let's see what you've got.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ooh.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wow! Oh, god. Inga never did anything like that. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'll take that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, get your own margi.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's not for me. It's for our new masseur, Lars.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you serious?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SAVIDGE: OK, fine writing. You just can't beat it. It's "Club Dread," all the goings on at "an alcohol drenched swinging singles island resort." Then along comes a machete wielding serial killer. It's hard to believe they keep revamping that same story line, isn't it?

COLLINS: What was it, "Club Dread?"

SAVIDGE: Yes.

COLLINS: I'm shocked. Oh, yikes.

SAVIDGE: Yup. Can't wait to see it.

(WEATHER REPORT)

SAVIDGE: Time now for a check of our top stories.

In China, talks designed to end North Korea's nuclear weapons program come to a close with no major progress reported. Six nations, including the U.S., participated. North Korea again denied that it has a program for enriching uranium that's for nuclear weapons. But the U.S. claims the North Koreans previously admitted they do.

And here in the U.S., presidential candidate John Edwards hopes to woo the Howard Dean political machine. Edwards is talking with Dean's organizers in 12 states in hopes of gaining their support. Dean, who recently dropped out of the presidential race, has not endorsed any of the remaining Democratic candidates.

COLLINS: So, who has the best chance to grab the crucial number of delegates this Tuesday? Well, we'll be talking politics a little bit later this hour.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a combination here of talent, experience, persistence and luck.

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SAVIDGE: Apparently that is all it takes to catch the world's most wanted terrorist. We'll look at some strategies next on CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

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COLLINS: How to get what you want in Afghanistan, especially when it comes to crucial intelligence.

Welcome back, everybody.

I'm Heidi Collins.

SAVIDGE: And I'm Martin Savidge.

That story in a minute, but first the headlines at this hour.

The situation in Haiti is getting worse. Rebels say they have surrounded the capital, while pro-government gangs roam the streets killing and looting. The U.S. is considering a plan to station 2,200 Marines off the coast in case they are needed.

The U.S. pays out the full $30 million reward to the person credited with leading U.S. troops to Uday and Qusay Hussein. The State Department won't release the name of the informant, but did say the person and the person's family are no longer in Iraq.

A shootout today just inside the Pakistani border, that's the border with Afghanistan. Gunmen in civilian vehicles opened fire at a military checkpoint and paramilitary troops fired back, killing 11 people and wounding six. It's not immediately clear if the attackers were part of an organized terror network.

COLLINS: Now, our final report in our week long series on intelligence gathering in the war on terror. Defense Secretary Rumsfeld tried to cool recent reports that the U.S. is any closer to capturing Osama bin Laden.

National correspondent Susan Candiotti takes a look at some of the efforts under way.

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SAVIDGE: If you haven't had time to keep up with the news this week, that is why we are here. Let's rewind for you now and look at some of the top stories.

President Bush reacts to a flood of gay marriages in San Francisco. He calls for a constitutional amendment against same-sex marriages.

John Kerry continues on a roll. He wracks up wins in Hawaii, Idaho and Utah.

Alan Greenspan gets our attention. He says federal budget deficits and baby boomers, their retirements, will require future cuts in Social Security and Medicare.

And "The Passion of the Christ" stirs a lot of passion. It wins praise from many moviegoers, while many others say it is too violent and will trigger anti-Semitism.

Tomorrow, we will fast forward to the week ahead and tell you which stories will grab the spotlight.

COLLINS: And this story will definitely be in the spotlight. The Democratic nominees gearing up for Super Tuesday. Will Kerry stay in the lead and who will Dean's supporters go to?

Get ready for your morning dose of politics, next on CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

SAVIDGE: First, more from our picture file this morning.

Here's one of the most emotional photos of the week. A woman pleads with Ugandan police and soldiers to stop shooting after they opened fire on protesters as a peace march turned violent.

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SAVIDGE: Looking for a perfect pet, something easy to look after that won't mess your house? Well, Germans have developed a fondness for ants. And they're paying big bucks for them. Details in our "Wow of the Week," later this hour.

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SEN. JOHN EDWARDS (D-NC), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think an Edwards-Kerry ticket would be powerful. And that's the ticket that I think we should have.

KING: Wait a minute...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Senator Kerry? Senator Kerry?

KING: All right, hold it. Are you saying -- hold it. Are you saying now that if you get this nomination, you will ask him to join you?

EDWARDS: He certainly should be considered. He's a very, very, very good candidate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And?

KING: And where does Edwards stand in your thinking?

SEN. JOHN KERRY (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I want...

KING: You have to be thinking about it.

KERRY: My thinking...

KING: If you say you're not thinking about it, you're kidding me.

KERRY: I want to thank him for the consideration. I appreciate it.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COLLINS: Well, the next few days could be make or break it for the John Edwards campaign in his bid to catch front runner John Kerry. More than 1,110 delegates are up for grabs in 10 states on Super Tuesday, coming your way, of course, in just a couple of days.

NPR Congressional reporter Andrea Seabrook is joining us this morning from Washington with a little bit of a look ahead, as well as a look back on the debate that happened just a couple of days ago.

And, Andrea, I want to get to that first, if we could.

What do you think was accomplished on Thursday night's debate?

ANDREA SEABROOK, NPR CONGRESSIONAL REPORTER: Well, that's a really good question. I mean for people who are looking for big differences between Kerry and Edwards, they may have had some trouble finding some. I think if they, if something was really accomplished in this debate, it was sort of defining the, what I would call the end of the race for the nomination for the Democratic Party. I mean, you know...

COLLINS: How so, Andrea?

SEABROOK: Well, it's not all over, but it sure is winnowed down, you know? I mean after Tuesday's -- you know, this is the big day coming up, Super Tuesday, 10 states. And I think we'll really see, we'll really see pretty much one person who we think will be the Democratic nominee by then.

COLLINS: And I'm guessing that you're saying that's going to be John Kerry?

SEABROOK: Well, it's my guess. And it's a lot of people's guess at this point. Edwards is, you know, is doing pretty well in some of the states, but Kerry still leads him in most of the states and he has a big lead in the big states, where he could really pick up a lot of delegates so...

COLLINS: Right. In fact, you say that the reason why Kerry seems to be looking like the one who will get the nomination is because people like to vote for a winner, because they're kind of like sheep.

Explain that to us.

SEABROOK: Well, you know, I mean people like to vote for the winner. They like to feel like they're on the winning side. And so that's sort of the political theory behind a lot of the people saying that, you know, the momentum of Kerry. And so, you know, I really think that people will see this is the guy who's been winning so far, this is the guy the people in my party who identify with, like, and that's who I'm going to vote for when I go to the polls. And I think you see part, that's part of what's in play in this election. Of course, there are a lot of issues here. It's not just a horse race. There's a lot of important issues at stake.

COLLINS: Of course. And let's talk, if we could, quickly, about Super Tuesday.

What's on tap and what are we to expect on that big day?

SEABROOK: Well, we've got primaries in California, Connecticut, Georgia, Maryland, I mean on and on. There are 10 of them. We've got caucuses in Minnesota. You know, we've, the campaigns have been all over the place. I mean this is nothing like the very beginning of the Democratic nomination where you saw people sort of focusing on one or two states. This is the big deal and this is where you really have to make a difference and get those delegates.

Now, we don't want to omit the fact that the Ohio congressman, Dennis Kucinich, and the Reverend Al Sharpton are still in the race. Those two are hoping, I think, to pick up some delegates themselves. They'd like to have a few delegates that they control in the coming Democratic conventions.

COLLINS: Well, of course, and they'll get their issues heard that way.

SEABROOK: Exactly.

COLLINS: We are going to be repairing, as you probably know, the Democratic debate. That's going to be coming up here in about 15 minutes or so.

SEABROOK: Yes.

COLLINS: Tell us quickly, if you would, Andrea, what it is that people should look for?

SEABROOK: Well, this is a really great chance, I think, for people at home to be the journalist and to look at this debate and look for differences. Look for John Kerry and John Edwards trying to point out their differences on the death penalty, on the Iraqi war, if there is any difference between them on that, on taxes. I mean -- and most importantly, their differences on what we call biography. I mean Edwards says he's the son of a mill worker. He says Kerry is not, he's from a different part of America. I think people at home should really look and see if they can tell where those differences are.

COLLINS: All right, Andrea Seabrook, thanks so much for sitting down and chatting with us this morning. We sure do appreciate it.

SEABROOK: My pleasure.

COLLINS: And CNN's live coverage on Super Tuesday begins at 5:00 a.m. Count on us to bring you the winners, the coffee -- well, maybe not -- and the live campaign updates. The results begin to roll in at 7:00 p.m. Eastern. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TRUMP: I get killed on this hair.

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SAVIDGE: The shocker from Donald Trump. Larry King digs into the hair question and gets the answer you've been waiting to hear.

That's next on CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

Plus, remember the Mega Millions win from last week? In a town that only has 1,100 people, how long can the big winner stay under cover? We'll revisit Stevens City, Virginia, ahead.

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KENNY CHESNEY: Listen to my music just a little too loud, we were hanging in there without a cash crowd. Came to the rapids with some discount beer. It was a long train trestle but we had no fear.

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SAVIDGE: Wow, did I tell you I love country music? I really do. But I love Mega Millions more. Turning now to a $239 million question -- who won last week's Mega Millions jackpot? We don't know the winner. But we do know where that ticket came from, the Red Apple Store in Stevens City, Virginia, they sold it.

And Vangy Robinson is the manager of the store and she joins us on the phone.

But first, we want to take you back to last Saturday. It was right here on CNN, Robinson spoke with us, remembering this is the very moment that lottery officials told her about the store's very lucky sale.

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VANGY ROBINSON, MANAGER, RED APPLE STORE: The guy is here right now and he showed me his badge and said yes, we're the winners.

SAVIDGE: So I presume this is somebody from, what, the state lottery commission or?

ROBINSON: Oh, yes. I'm so excited I'm about ready to cry.

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SAVIDGE: Well, we were very excited.

Vangy joins us back on the telephone this morning.

Vangy, come on, who won? How come we don't know yet? ROBINSON: No one's claimed the ticket yet. We're waiting.

SAVIDGE: Do you think it's somebody in town? Have we narrowed down the field of possibilities?

ROBINSON: We're hoping for a local person, but we haven't heard anything. They can be letting us wait a long time, too, just to keep us guessing.

SAVIDGE: Well, the town's obviously not that big, so a lot of people have to be talking.

What are they saying?

ROBINSON: They're just saying they wish the person would hurry up and come up. They're, we even had a customer yesterday looking around our store, trying to find the ticket outside on the ground. I mean that was amazing, you know, because nobody's claimed it yet, so they're thinking maybe it could have been lost.

SAVIDGE: That was me, Vangy, by the way.

ROBINSON: Oh, it was you? All right. So we're just, we're just waiting and we're on pins and needles. And everybody comes in the store and they're joking that they've got the ticket. But then they says, well, have you found out who got the ticket? No one knows.

SAVIDGE: Right. Well, and I understand it wasn't just, of course, the Mega Millions winner sold in that town, but also somebody got a lesser prize of over $100,000. Is that right?

ROBINSON: Yes, they did. They claimed that. But we haven't got our claimer for our store yet.

SAVIDGE: Wow. Well, I guess if it's a measly 100 some thousand dollars, you run in and grab that. It's just change.

ROBINSON: Right.

SAVIDGE: Well, we look forward to finding out from you, Vangy. I think this could be a continuing saga.

ROBINSON: Well, it's helped our business and everything. Everybody's been coming in because we're the lucky store and they're trying to play their tickets.

SAVIDGE: And a lot of media come to town?

ROBINSON: Oh, yes. We had a lot of media, yes. We had a lot of attention, more than I expected and it's been pretty good for our store. I'm really glad for it.

SAVIDGE: Well, I think it's been very good for the town. It's certainly been very good for all of us, as far as raising our spirits.

ROBINSON: Oh, definitely, yes. SAVIDGE: Vangy Robinson, thanks very much for joining us on the telephone, manager of the Red Apple Store.

We hope to hear from you when the winner finally comes forward.

And I think we're going to rename Stevens City Lucky Town.

COLLINS: Like it. All right. And here's a guy who already has millions. From a mega mystery to a very hair raising question -- is Donald Trump's hair real or fake, in the form of a toupee?

Appearing on CNN's "Larry King Live" last night, the real estate mogul laid the issue to rest by brushing off the hairy rumors.

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TRUMP: Come on, let's go. Come here.

KING: All right. It is not a toupee, OK?

TRUMP: OK?

KING: All right.

TRUMP: Will you please inform the public? Thank you.

KING: It's not a toupee. Now, hold on...

TRUMP: I don't see any --

KING: Lean forward a little. It's not a -- no, it's not a toupee. It is not a comb over.

TRUMP: Don't mess it up too much.

KING: No, no, it's not a comb over. But every...

TRUMP: It's really not that much of a comb over. But I get killed in this hair. I'm getting killed. KING: Well, I...

TRUMP: I think -- do you know the show has gotten great reviews, I've gotten great reviews, everything's gotten great reviews except for one thing, my hair. KING: OK.

TRUMP: It gets bad reviews.

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COLLINS: Yes, I mean how much does he pay to his stylist? I don't know. All right, well, Trump added he has no plans to change from his very recognizable hairstyle. That's too bad.

SAVIDGE: Well, here's a treatment that spas don't usually give to a baseball, unless it's a Cubs ball, of course. The final moments of the cursed memories and some other Wows of the Week, when we return.

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COLLINS: But first, more from our picture file this morning. Elvis is alive and strolling down the cat walk. Take a look at this. It's not Elvis, actually. His granddaughter, 14-year-old Riley Code (ph), made her modeling debut on a Milan runway this week. The daughter of Elvis' ex-wife, Priscilla Presley, will take the stage again later today. And, no, she is not wearing blue suede shoes.

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SAVIDGE: The pictures we're about to show you will probably make you say wow or something else. That's why we call them the Wows of the Week.

We begin with the word poof. And with that, the flour war is on. It's the annual carnival custom in Greektown and it is converted into a flour filled mess, with roving gangs of breaders covering home streets, pets and people in a fine powdery mess.

The hot new pet in Germany is the ant. Yes. Yes, the ant. In fact, there is an ant store in Berlin, Germany, that sells single colonies for as much as $1,700. That's 25 ants for $1,700.

A daring escape for this little squirrel, who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. But he used his special powers of flight to escape the house fire and later rejoined his friend Bullwinkle to foil another plot by Boris and Natasha. I love that.

And now, here's a tip for you. In Houston, a businessman established himself as a really good tipper when he gave this waitress a brand new car.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh my god, I don't know what to say.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say these are my keys.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What do I do? Oh my god. Thank you so much, Doug Brown. Thank you so much.

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SAVIDGE: You can say they were massaging the demons out of the infamous Bartman ball. The ball itself was given the VIP treatment, complete with a last meal of steak and lobster. But then came the end. Wow, the ball (UNINTELLIGIBLE). The Cubs' curse was destroyed in fantastic fashion by a Hollywood special effects expert. After seeing what happened to the ball, you get some idea why Steve Bartman is keeping a low profile.

COLLINS: Yes.

SAVIDGE: Now, that is a lot of fun to do, right to that segment right there.

COLLINS: They just totally annihilated that thing.

ROB MARCIANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I don't think I've ever seen a baseball implode or explode like that.

SAVIDGE: No.

COLLINS: No. It was good stuff, wasn't it?

SAVIDGE: They said $100,000 and just poof.

COLLINS: Boom. Done. Curse gone, hopefully.

MARCIANO: Hey, a lot of good people in Chicago, hard working people making lots of money. So $100,000 is, you know, just to get rid of that curse.

COLLINS: That's right.

MARCIANO: It's pocket change.

SAVIDGE: Right. A small price to pay.

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COLLINS: We do now want to check our top stories for the day.

A growing sense of urgency and danger in Haiti. Armed gangs are roaming the capital of Port-au-Prince, looting and killing. The U.S. Embassy is appealing to Jean-Bertrand Aristide to stop the blind violence by his supporters.

And John Edwards hopes to woo the Howard Dean political machine. Edwards is talking with Dean's organizers in 12 states in hopes of gaining their support. Dean, who recently dropped out of the presidential race, has not endorsed any of the remaining Democratic candidates.

SAVIDGE: And that is it for this hour of CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

Heidi and I are back in 15 seconds with what's happening at this hour.

COLLINS: Don't go away.

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